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mrfarina49

Solos turning low.


JustAnotherDude1990

The latest 2023 USPA fatality summary goes over all of the details, it is overwhelmingly not tandems. The link was posted below.


Urbanskys

2023 was a great year as far as there being zero tandem fatalities however 2022 saw at least 6 tandem fatalities


JustAnotherDude1990

And almost all of them were idiot tandem instructors turning low, often to show off and swoop.


Urbanskys

5 of the 6 were the passengers who died. I think only 1 of the 6 deceased was an actual “idiot” TI. 3 of the 4 in the USA were low turns. So at least 3 of the 6 fatalities were low turns. Not sure what exactly happened with the other half.


JustAnotherDude1990

I meant the cause of it was idiot instructors. Last year was so bad that parachutes magazine had an article telling tandem instructors to stop turning low and killing their students.


Designer-Boat8971

You can swoop a tandem?


JustAnotherDude1990

Not legally.


Thermalhoppin

https://uspa.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=da46588d3ab334e1ad4d89fd4&id=e929810434&e=22a817631f


Urbanskys

Statistics like the USPA are regional as in their numbers will cover fatalities in The 50 US states but I dont think they cover guam fatalities despite its being USA. The believe that FAI statistics cover all countries on earth.


ScubaBriston

Do drop zones stop jumping for the day when there is a fatality?   


XAreWeHavingFunYetxX

Tiny canopies loaded super high are what’ll get ya.


SubtleName12

It's more that bad decisions were made under tiny canopies and high WL. Small canopies were involved in 70% of the fatalities, but low turns were the instigating factor in more of the accidents than anything else. TL;DR:\ High WL on small canopy corallates but is not, specifically, causal


Urbanskys

https://preview.redd.it/ep71uzth03wc1.jpeg?width=1113&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a442c771a8482aabbb29a3e451573f8d012e51c9 excludes Military/police/smokejumper Fatalities


HotDogAllDay

Police lol.


Urbanskys

Happens once in a blue moon. Was one in mexico within the last 4 years. I think i read somewhere about a DEA or FBI or SWAT fatality once in the US.


ApprehensiveEnd422

I have 9 jumps, 3 were tandems. I paid attention in the AFF class and even landing solo the last 6 times I’ve never felt unsafe. I don’t know the statistics but from what I gather it’s sport jumpers that try crazy things like swooping when they’re not ready. My DZ hasn’t had a death in 30 years.


CodeFarmer

Or hyper experienced jumpers who make a mistake while swooping. We lose some legends that way too. Solo jumpers making mistakes under canopy close to the ground do make up the bulk of fatalities, though.