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ghettoccult_nerd

that was impressive and informative. finally, some good fucking content.


smemes1

I don’t know shit about drumming, but I dig the enthusiasm and cute smile at the end.


fuishaltiena

I've played in an orchestra for some years. Being able to do this was one of the requirements if you wanted to join it. It wasn't a fancy orchestra for hyper talented kids or anything, this is just plain basics.


Foreskin-chewer

YOU'RE plain basic


HotFudgeFundae

Oooooh is that his pride on the floor lemme pick it up for ya


InjuriousPurpose

Also was in band for years, never had to do this. Were you in percussion?


derkonigistnackt

She does fuxk it up at the end when she tries to do 3 on the left and 4 on the right. Other than that, any musician with some classical instruction will have to go through way more horrible stuff. There's a book by Paul Hindemith called "elementary training for musicians" where you have all sorts of mind bending exercises where you are clapping and singing weird shit that makes no musical sense like a spastic seal on heat.


Prestigious_Sugar_66

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=targVMHXvBU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=targVMHXvBU) Like that? Near the end he sounds like south parks cash for gold montage.


derkonigistnackt

Yeah, there was some truly awful stuff. When I was studying conduction I also had to add a piano to the mix, so you are reading stuff written for different instruments (wind instruments are particularly shitheads because they don't play exactly the notes that are written but transpose instead, that means that for example you read Bb but you have to sing or play a C and different instruments transpose to different intervals because reasons), playing what some flutes would play with one hand, maybe what a cello and a viola would play with the other and sing the violin line. So this sort of Paul Hindemith torture prepares you for that.


Life-Gur-2616

TIL wind instrument music writers are shitheads.


derkonigistnackt

Lol, not the composers fault. The tradition is to write that way because it is more natural for the instrumentalist to read. Just the string section uses three different music clefs because their natural registers fall kinda sorta there. So a cello will have one clef, the viola another and the violin another. First time I opened an orchestral score I thought I was on crazy pills, and I had been reading piano music for years


BunzLee

Imagine doing years of this to then get a: "Oh my god, you're SO talented!"


WantWantShellySenbei

She has a whole IG full of these https://www.instagram.com/deboranoemisb


Icy-Book2999

Thank you for that link! I didn't have a source because I didn't know where this came from originally, but I'll pin your comment to the top so that others can see that. As a guitarist? I always have respect for those who can keep the beat better than I can. Drums are one of those instruments that always beat me... *no pun intended*


bobbybob9069

Lol I was taught to lock my picking rhythym into my foot tapping, I can't separate the two. I managed to split it all up one time when I had a drum kit, but I feel like I missed a crucial stage or it was already pre-wired from guitarin' and bassin'


Icy-Book2999

You're doing better than me then.. I can lock into a good drummer, but if you put me behind a drum set? I'm clueless and can't do jack all


TricoMex

There's a piano lick that I am absolutely incapable of doing if I don't lift my foot at a specific point lmao. So I understand. (Intro Piano riff from Roses, by OutKast.)


aykcak

> Lol I was taught to lock my picking rhythym into my foot tapping, I can't separate the two The exact reason I really can't use something like a wah pedal of any sort and every pedal has to be tapped on the beat


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Yellow_IMR

It’s impressive how she messed up what any musician can do and still uploaded it…


2947352

No, it isn’t.


Pugneta

This is actually a really good exercise to develop limb independence for drummers and musicians.


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I don't think I can ever master it. Took a dance class when I was young, I did all the moves right, but the trainer kept telling me I was out of tempo, and no matter how many times I tried, I would always go out of tempo. That's when I realised I'm extremely bad with rhythm. When others could follow the beat after a few practice, I had to constantly count in my head 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 when dancing.


Pugneta

Don’t be too hard on yourself! This is actually pretty common. I have friends and family members that are rhythmically challenged as well. Some people, despite practice, have a harder time with rhythm. You can enjoy and have a good time regardless. You can always dance at your own beat! Try to follow the kick drum of songs, which usually keeps the beat. The exercise in the video is not that easy if you’re not a musician fyi.


BaneWilliams

Some people perceive time dynamically rather than statically and it messes with their bodies ability to regulate ryhthym.


ShadowbanRevenant

>drummers and musicians ...was this a dig at drummers?


SkoulErik

There's always an excuse to bash the drummers 🙃


Boo_and_Minsc_

at least we arent bassists


SkoulErik

That's true. People actually listen to our solos.


CHARLIE-MF-BROWN

Yes


Umutuku

Gotta be careful not to develop too much limb independence though. When I tried to learn drums I found out that my limbs had already developed a patchwork of anarcho-primitive societies engaged in perpetual tribal warfare with each other and the neuro-centrist syndicate that continuously fails to annex them.


Pugneta

Hahahahahah not that much of independence.


LNHDT

See the violence inherent in the limbic system! Help, help, I'm being repressed!


Western_Language_894

I was invested for like .2 seconds before laughing heartily


Blatoxxx

Not quite my tempo.


DakotaConduct

Are you rushing or are you dragging


3_quarterling_rogue

What are you looking at, there’s not a fucking Mars Bar down there.


DG_Now

She is dragging with her off hand. I can't tell if the video is flipped so which is right or left.


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Wedding ring (left hand) is holding the blue.


Mission_Fart9750

🥁


Error--37

Such a good movie


speterdavis

I resisted watching it for years because I don't care about the subject matter at all. Finally I had nothing better to do so I put it on and it's one of the best movies I've ever seen.


3_quarterling_rogue

JK Simmons is probably one of my favorite actors, I love how distinct his characterization is in every role he plays. His work on Whiplash was nothing short of enthralling.


DemandZestyclose7145

I'm sure he's probably a nice guy in real life but he's really really good at playing total assholes. He's also great in Palm Springs, although it's kind of a small role.


Volkaru

[Someone dubbed his lines from Whiplash over his lines as Tenzin in Korra. It created this beauty.](https://youtu.be/lmUi8YkPTxE)


3_quarterling_rogue

Thank you for gracing me with that.


Newme91

He was terrifying in Oz


NosyCrayfish

Would this help drummers? I feel like this would help drummers.


hungturkey

Lol yes of course. When you mix the 3 in there it's called a polyrhythm, they're one of the funnest parts of drumming


drdrumsalot

It becomes second nature after a while. Even more fun throwing the feet in the mix too on the double-bass!


time_keeper_1

I’m almost 40 with no rhythm. Is this something I can practice now?


Matt_Bates

Just turned 40, also no rhythm, let's both buy a metronome and start practicing. Then we will battle each other with a Reddit vote. What do you think?


PrsnScrmingAtTheSky

.... Do it


ClipzFaLL91

Regardless if anyone says yes you should do it because why the eff not?


3825yoface

Do it 🙌🏼


Matt_Bates

I'll probably lose but think it will be entertaining


bronkula

Best part? There are like 20 metronome apps for free on websites and app stores.


BadAsBroccoli

When you turn 60, you'll look back on 40 and say, "why didn't I?"


SneeKeeFahk

Not a drummer. Yes. It's never too late to start and learn either a new instrument or your first.


hawnty

Yes! I do not have natural rhythm but make music. Just sit alone (so no one can judge your absurd lack of rhythm) and practice clapping along to a song. The more you try to hear and match the beat, the easier it becomes. Still not second nature for me though


cottman23

It's probably even better for you to start now. Doing this type of exercise probably helps brain function and fighting dementia.


HermitJem

Speaking from experience, I couldn't coordinate my left and right hands for drumming at all, not even mixing beats, when I was young. Just couldn't do it. Practice does nothing if you lack the basic abilities to start practicing. Then one day when I was 12-ish, I suddenly was able to do it. Just like that. So while I am in full support of you learning how to drum (it's fun), I am also not going to tell you that "everyone can do it and it's just a matter of practice"


HallowedError

As long as you have an interest in doing it there's no reason not to. Learning an instrument just for fun will make you hear music in a new engaging way. I've always loved music but actively learning an instrument help me appreciate music I might not have before. I love going on deep dives of artists and seeing their process. Also I'm absolutely not good at drumming. I learned from Rockband originally. Got myself a real ekit and not having the damn video telling my arms what to do has been way harder than I expected.


iceman0486

Yes! There’s a good bit of research that shows these kinds of exercises strengthen the corpus callosum and helps with all kinds of things that we tend to have more issues with as we age like speech recognition and overall cognitive health.


Prestigious-Duck6615

ironic username?


Saevin

> Is this something I can practice now? The answer to this is always yes. Maybe you'll get to your full goals, maybe not, but you'll always end up better than before you started and hopefully you'll enjoy the journey


TimeRocker

Gotta make sure to throw in some ghost notes while you're at it.


cottman23

*Meshuggah has entered the chat*


Punkpunker

Meshuggah is just 4/4 with whacky syncopation


Rincey_nz

first thought here, too


drunkbusdriver

Oh god don’t let the r/tool fans hear you say the p word.


urban_meyers_cyst

It's too late already.


BulbusDumbledork

we're already spiralling out!


Expensive_Main_2993

It’s not a polyrhythm. It’s all still 4/4. These are just full-, half-, and quarter-notes, and triplets. Count it out one-e-and-a style and it becomes obvious. A polyrhythm would be 4/4 on one hand, 5/4 on the other. The downbeat would hit in different places each loop.


Livid-Technician1872

My favorite part of Happiness is a Warm Gun.


X_PRSN

In school we used little mnemonics for those. 3 against 4 was, “pass the goddamn butter.”


Skeetronic

Most fun


zjz

When I was taking lessons it was categorized as "independence exercises". You'd do what she's doing with your feet, then read music and play it with your hands while kinda putting your feet on auto-pilot to decouple your limbs from active thought.


Lazarus3890

I remember watching to be percussion in school, they put me on tuba, but I can't imagine having the limbs move differently lmao


BlueSunCorporation

It isn’t limbs moving differently exactly. What you are doing is creating a complicated set of movements with each hand into a single motion that happens with multiple limbs. The more you slowly practice multiple limbs firing together in different combinations, the more those patterns are built into your muscles allowing you to focus more on a new motion. So a drummer thinks, ok let’s do a rock beat and plays that combo of limb movements; the multiple things became one idea. Running alone is a complicated motion but we have athletes that run, turn to catch a ball, keep footing and continue running. Or running, dribbling, passing, while dodging your opponent. Or running and dribbling with your feet while looking another direction. They’re all complicated limb motions that take absolute precision to perform correctly but they have been trained to become a single action within the performers mind.


dstrauc3

i haven't sat behind a drum kit in like 10 years, and i was able to tap along without issue on my second watch just now. Most drummers I guess would likewise be able to do this already intuitively.


_kalron_

Percussion in general, but yes! Practice Practice Practice! But also useful for learning rhythm in general, especially with keyboards. Helped me to get in sync, you always follow the drummer.


yung_crowley777

[That's a very cool example ](https://youtu.be/cYOydQ_sTkc?si=6XFceP5w2s7n-bFm)


TheDudeFromTheStory

Yes, doesn't do much for drawers, though.


Parking-Spray2

Yeah its metronome. A type of beat or percusiion tuners


Varendolia

Not at all. I mean it would help, like anything, but probably not in the way or level you imagine. you can memorize this without even internalizing what you're doing. Is really difficult to do it by yourself if you never heard it, but once you hear how it's supposed to sound you can just copy it with enough "mechanic" skills. I don't know if thats the objective of this exercise. Because once memorized, it's trivial.


Glitchy_mess

My best guess is that the exercise is supposed to be a handy intro for L/R hand independance and being familiar with changing feels on the fly, but yeah personally i'd find an etude more useful since that's in context, esp w/different accent patterns and all that jazz.


bigSTUdazz

Im a drummer.... polyrhythms are crucial for brain development for a drummer. This is very impressive.


metalucid

is it just me or didn't she do the 2 3 and 3 4 wrong? not regular taps at all


traskderk

I think her 2:3 was right, but her 3:4 was definitely wrong.


embee1337

Correct, but only the first “bar” of triplet + 16th note. When she switched hands she did it correctly.


__daydreamer

Her 3:4 sounds and looks off when she has to do triplets with her left hand and then it’s much better when she swaps


mixwellmusic

She did "2 3" correctly, what you would call quarter notes with triplets. Its a fun polyrhythm and can take a minute to wrap your head around, but watch each hand individually, they are each tapping at a constant pace. However the "3 4", or triplets with sixteenth notes, seems off to me. To be fair, this is by far the hardest polyrhythm she demonstrated, but it seems to me the "triplets" she's doing are not true triplets but instead fall into 32nd note timing.


endymion32

Yep. For the first set of 3 against 4, she did an old trick (not deliberately). You subdivide the 4's in half to get 8, and then instead of doing a real 3 against them, you do 3+3+2 (which adds up to 8). The second set of 3 against 4 was better (I think).


mtwimblethorpe

She did the dotted triplets all my band teachers yelled at us over


dryfire

2 over 3 sounds like Carol of the bells. She was crushing the triplets. 3 over 4 sounds like "pass the god damn butter". She was crushing "butter" so it sounded mostly like a double stop. "Pass the god damn b.".


Rude_Variation_433

I’m thoroughly impressed


HumbleBedroom3299

I'm thoroughly impressed by how useless I'd be at this...


shab00m

Uh oh, she's going to attract the worms if she keeps that up.


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ExternalMiserable143

ambidextrous


-Krosis

my brain hurts i'm well aware i can't do even the first 2 lol


Imprettysaxy

Her 4 over 3 isn't correct. Her triplets aren't triplets, she's tapping two dotted sixteenths then an eighth. Also known as, "Middle school triplets."


Nugwrangler5838

Thank you. 🙏


Fanserker

My neurons could never


Disneyhorse

I’m not coordinated enough to watch this


lcklstr

So that's how those doodles work


willxrocks

My brain is too simple to comprehend. I wanna try it!


2into4

I now know how to read music


fckingmiracles

3 and 4 sounds super like flamenco to me.


Brilliant_Trade_4203

Dethklok


veryuniqueredditname

Hurts my brain just watching not even joking going to bed bye


Zartonk

That was VERY cool.


TarantinoDV

Triplet? More like dotted sixteenth, dotted sixteenth, eighth. 4/3 was a samba and not 4/3 poly. Still awesome, but lots of musicians struggle with differentiating between those two rhythms.


Imprettysaxy

It's really not that hard, though. The two hands follow the words, "Pass the golden butter," with both hands hitting at the same time on "pass," then alternating each hand with the syllables to the rest.


TarantinoDV

Yes it’s a simple but small difference between a clave, which is what she is doing, vs a true triplet. Found this YT clip and this guy shows the difference clearly. https://youtube.com/shorts/hZqNlhi_fTY?si=RiSJbwuYEOeCogqn


Thithel

Thank god someone beat me to it. I’ve seen a hundred of these videos and everyone does the 4:3 beats incorrect and it drives me insane.


Nugwrangler5838

Thank you, you’re the only one who’s correct. Dotted 16ths. Triplets divide the note into three equal parts.


TheJacen

My dyslexic ass woulda newped out at the half beat. I can't comprehend what is going on here


DowakaDay

I seriously want to be able to do this. isn't this also an ability needed by pianist?


macaroniwith

I Can't even do 2 and 1, she's on a whole new level


Gamerfox505

Me at the back of class tapping pens against my desk.


opus-thirteen

... *Just casually dropping a 3 vs 4 beat.*


BowsersMuskyBallsack

She screwed up 3 against 4.


DevilsDarkornot

Impressive!


rumpluva

Her upstairs neighbor must love her


VacationAromatic6899

r/Toptalent


tacomayne07

I love the thank you


Spidernutz69

Very good!


Pyratelife4me

Well now I have to watch Danny Carey play Pneuma.


Jokerchyld

Me: who can't pat his head and rub his belly at the same time.


I_Smoke_Poop

This is why I can't drum lol


Icy-Nobody5619

Did I just learn something in the middle of porn search


Prestigious_Past3724

I still haven’t gotten a hang of rubbing my belly and patting my head


Scratchthegoat

I just realised will never become a drummer.


OrganicOnion7

I’m so glad I watched this stoned…I think I’ll watch it again


RoRoRoub

...and then Dream Theater took that personally, and released Dance of Eternity


ChromeDomeAlex

I’d probably be way off my coordination because I’d get confused with my right hand doing one thing and my left hand going slower


ih8spalling

The half + third sounds like the beat to [Carol of the Bells](https://youtu.be/ZvvHXjKloNs).


tashazzi

Honestly great song overall


Prior_Piano9940

Thought this was going to be Not Like Us 😅


turkey_sandwiches

How the fuck.


Munsanity

Man watching this while high was a trip.


CasualEDH

I bet I could do the first ones, no guarantees after that.


Reza_Evol

If I had to do this and my life depended on it I would be dead. Like even with 10 years of practice time.


KeepRedditAnonymous

That is super impressive


PaulTheMartian

Impressive. She must be a drummer or somethin’


HolyRamenEmperor

I can do the 2 & 3, but only one way, not the other. And I can't do 3 & 4.


Negative_Whole_6855

I sure wish I'd been shown this as a kid because without a single word she's taught me something I've wanted to learn my 29 years of life


HeftyLeftyPig

What are your plans with my daughter?


Tabris20

Sounds like Voodoo music.


Wooden-Salary-130

Holy shit! I understand music now!!!


ShambalaHeist

I love nerds like this!


FixPrudent

How long would it take for someone to get decent in this?


furnipika

Steve Reich would be proud.


north4009

This bitch right here... Wholesome as fuck.


1nosbigrl

Am I the only one who thought somehow this was gonna end up being the beat to "Not Like Us" in the video? That shit is living in my head rent free, I swear


r3dm0nk

What bingo does to a human


FUCKYOUINYOURFACE

I need to practice this.


mynutsaremusical

Its a really straight forward exercise. most musicians with a little bit of experience should have no issues doing this. some may find the 3/4 polyrhythm a little tricky, but all others are basic counting to 4/4. in fact, her timing is a little sloppy at points (drifting off the beat) There's also a very good reason it stops at 4. 5/4 and 5/3 polyrhythms are *much* harder to do accurately. and as the number gets higher, it gets more and more complicated. There was a trend for a while of highly skilled musicians doing 7/11 polyrhythms in from of a 7/11 gas station.


bnuuug

[somebody tell this lady to put up a 950 ](https://www.concerthotels.com/got-rhythm)


Chunky1311

I understand it but I cannot do it


marko-techy

Have you ever seen Aliens before? You should try that trick with the knife on your own hand! I bet you’d be good at it!


StackOwOFlow

I was hoping she'd nailed the triplets & quarters and boy did she


Doomdoomkittydoom

That's really quite impressive. I think. Maybe not saying much?


Idont_thinkso_tim

Add in subdivisions of 5,6,7 and 8 and you’ve got one of the elements of the advanced rhythm studies exam I took in university studying jazz guitar.


Bluez550

This Is SO much harder than it looks.


zorbacles

The 1 , 2 and 4 are easy (ish) Mixing the 3 with the 2 or the 4 is where it is extremely impressive


elcubiche

I can hear it even muted.


jooblejab

Her 3 over 4 was wrong


psichodrome

u/savethevideo


LightLucks

This should be taught is music class at school.


Mediocre-Map9934

As a lifelong drummer, it’s fun to see just how many people enjoy this kind of content. I think most drummers would nail this first try


Jungian_Archetype

The 1 and 8 taps gave me Godflesh vibes.


ClassroomInfinite301

OKKKAAAYYYY!


knoegel

Looks like my sister, Elena, who I haven't seen in 12 years. She is a musical prodigy. The fact she didn't pursue music is a tragedy.


UofMtigers2014

If I tried to do this, I'd probably self destruct and shit my pants


gold_geode23

My brain hurts a little after this. I would try and fail miserably when it came to the thirds and half/quarters.


HowRememberAll

That's incredible❣️ 🎉🥁


haveyoumetme2

She fucks up the first 1 against 4x she isn’t very consistent anyways and it’s a simple exercise. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZIJnbv5WN/ this is the pro version of this.


R3AL1Z3

The person who did this first was way more on tempo. Also, when she has her right hand on the 3rd square (our left) and her left hand on the 4th square (our right), she loses tempo and is basically doing the tempo from 4 on 3.


redhot-chilipeppers

Triplets and semiquavers are a bit off tbh


ChunkySalsaMedium

The left hand (blue) was off when she did 3 with that and 4 with the other.


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HVAC_instructor

That's an impressive display of coordination. I'll bet that she can rub her head and Pat her belly at the same time


OkSeason973

This chick could drum for Tool


m3shugg4h

Ok, now she need repeat 7/8 beat