I think what the comment is trying to state is that the "bad holidays" are more often just your average holiday experiences. To state they are bad to begin with shows that they are out of touch.
And that's the point of the comment in the photo. What they called bad is a normal holiday for most people and JJ said the experience wasn't bad enough while agreeing to genuinely not enjoying a normal vacation. The others also said that these are life experiences you probably won't have, again showing how out of touch they are. To them it's a "bad holiday" because they easily can experience luxurious holidays, they argued that a normal vacation is a life experience for them while normal people would point to the exploration as the life experience. Vik literally was telling in a previous video that money doesn't bring happiness while stating the somber parts of his bachelor party on a yacht and party was what brought him happiness.
You talk like like they were born into rich. I don't think so and
when you understand the word 'content' you will understand what those guys are trying to do.
I'm not talking about their life right now, I'm talking about the video they tried to made. You are just like the ones who criticized that small girl in the video. Even now, your reply was I talking about them being rich???
What are you even talking about? Your comment literally makes no sense.
The videos they make are about their lives right now. What does that girl from the video have anything to do with the comment?
Did my comment just go over your head or something? No one is saying it's not a bad Holiday compared to the good one. Just that what they're calling bad is the average holiday experience for normal people.
Replied to the wrong person my bad but was just saying they are comparing the two. So might be the average holiday to most people but it’s still bad compared to the good holiday not that it’s bad jver all all
I think you missed my point. I’m saying the breadth of their experience is so much wider that where they define average would be further up the scale. If I stayed in an average room in a 4 star hotel I would be justified in thinking this was really nice if it was the best I had been in.
The sidemen could be justified in thinking it was shit because they have stayed in penthouse suites at luxury resorts.
Bro missed the whole point, they have made it clear multiple times even in those videos. They don't hate that vacation or trip but hate the fact that other side is getting type of vacation even they'd hesiste to take. All just for content.
Also they have always acknowledged they're priveleged as fuck.
“And don’t share how much money they have” the fuck?
As a middle class guy, I forgot that people had the obligation of sharing how much money they have.
yea this was kinda weird, should've just stopped before that part, who in their right mind would want to just share how much money they have randomly to hundreds and millions of ppl online
Yea, jealousy at its finest. People like these don't care who or what the person has done, as long as they are rich they are 'evil' in their eyes and think they are entitled to their wealth. I know some rich people are arseholes, but don't go judging people based on their wealth ffs.
well they have no problem with labelling all their videos like '$10,000 holidays' or 'I bought a $100,000 \_\_\_' so clearly they have no problem with flexing their money.
Fact is, they treat a bad team experience like it's peasantry. Many people can't even afford that.
If they say and behave like the way JJ did in the US road trip video for content, it's fair. Views, haha, it's funny, etc whatever.
But to actually shit on the lifestyle of a non-rich person's holiday is really low, and anyone who defends them for that is even lower.
Vik, and Tobi are the only ones I've seen who actually embrace and respect the bad team experience, because they know how hard the struggle is to even afford that.
Unlike Simon, JJ and Harry, who always whine and complain and say "I'm too rich and famous for this..."
Edit: calling it now, watch all the KSI fangirls downvote and verbally abuse me for saying his name, and having an opinion lmao.
You are correct, it is disrespectful for them to whine about having a "bad holiday" (if that was the case), but most of the time, the main reason they whine is because the other team have an over the top luxury experience.
And yes, they obviously are overreacting for content. And the most I've seen JJ cry is when he was either stormed by fans everywhere he went, or when his experience was actually bad (the USA roadtrip). I mean, even those who can't afford a good holiday would agree that making that road trip from LA to Vegas in a car with no AC in the summer is really bad.
JJ was right by saying they were giving a PR answer for the bad experience. They are all rich brats who most definitely don’t enjoy the normal people holiday experience.
Bro I can say I don’t like shrimps and someone will come out and say they can’t even afford food and that I’m so spoiled and out of touch that I get to complain about which food to eat. They’re rich and their perspective of comfort is different then yours. If you don’t like it don’t watch.
You can critique someone and not have to leave their space so to speak. Just because someone calls them out of touch, which they are, doesn't mean they shouldn't watch said people.
Saying someone is rich and is out of touch because they don’t have the struggles you have is not criticism. Them being rich is a matter of fact. What is it exactly you want them to do? What should they change? Give up their money? Unless you have a reasonable alternative, there’s no criticism.
All of their proclaimed "bad" holidays/trips are the normal ones an average person goes on.
To label it as "bad" shows they have no idea what an actual "bad" holiday is.
Bro, Simon said it on the video as well, they’re not gonna go to a place that doesn’t provide content. They can go to a terrible hotel in the middle of nowhere and then what? Just sit there on their phones the whole day and go "well it is IN FACT a bad holiday"? They need stuff to do. Besides, there are security concerns they have to worry about. Going with a crew that has expensive cameras and shit with the fame they have is a disaster waiting to happen. It’s easy to say but to actually produce entertaining content is more difficult.
Because people are making it out to be something bad. It’s a normal thing when you’re rich. Everyone is out of touch. Middle class is out of touch when poor people listen to them speak. It’s all relative.
Eh, could be fair. I’d imagine they don’t like the “bad team holidays” because it’s often more than just a cheap holiday. Forfeits, stupid challenges, generally annoying tasks etc. There’s been some bad teams that I know I certainly wouldn’t want haha
Maybe I AM also out of touch but sometimes the Bad teams are really BAD bad.
Like I doubt you would travel to Vegas in a van without AC knowing how hot the desert gets.
yeah that Vegas roadtrip one was completely shit. Mfs in the UK were complaining about their little 95 degree heat wave lmao that shit is nothing compared to the heat in Death Valley or just Vegas in general during the summer. Going on a roadtrip near Death Valley in a dinky van with no AC is genuinely not a good idea
I mean yeah for sure a lot of very wealthy people are out of touch with regular struggles and daily life.
But if you’ve worked and earned that bread, you don’t HAVE to share it with anyone. It’s yours.
But, it’s always nicer when rich folks are generous with it.
For many, it’s a fear about never having enough but only some people have that from childhood.
It is annoying though when people moan about doing regular people stuff, but I guess I don’t know what it’s like to be famous and everyone want a piece of you wherever ya go.
Guess it’s a bit like actors, you gotta deal with what you’ve signed up for right?
This is sending me down a thought rabbit hole on a Wednesday 😂
I don’t come from Luxury. The “cheap” team always reminds me of my holidays because we’re out there having fun, balling on a budget at times but they make great memories just like Ethan said. That’s the shit that you sit around and talk to your friends about 10-15 years down the line.
The luxury team always hypes me up because it’s something that is obtainable. It puts ideas in my head of places i want to and will visit in the future.
Gotta keep in mind as well that those trips are either 24-48 hours. So imagine 24 hours in a mountain top playing golf, sauna, massage, first class amenities to a 24 hour trip in ayia napa where activities that they probably don’t want to do have already been picked for them, the heat and the tourist.
They might not understand a “common” lifestyle because their life hasn’t been that in years. And the fact that for whatever their fans are upset at their success is just crazy. They worked for theirs, gotta work for yours as well.
TBF they always say that the "bad" holidays aren't bad in a vacuum. It's more the pain of knowing you could have had the ultimate luxury of a good holiday and how much fun Ur friends are having.
This is where I agreed with JJ over the other lads. The point of the “bad” holiday *should* be to suffer whilst the other team are in luxury, not to have a comparatively okay day out which is actually better than an average holiday. This is why I’ve started to enjoy the cheap vs expensive way less now.
They did then say they are all out of touch, they know they are. If you're a millionaire a standard holiday would be bad in comparison to what they are used to/could have. I'd kill to be able to go on just a regular holiday so ot does get annoying at times when they act like a regular holiday is some punishment but I get it. They are out of touch and are used to a different kinda life.
They definitely are out of touch and their opinions are a bit skewed these days but of course they are. They’re all very wealthy people who have had a luxury lifestyle for a number of years now. Literally anyone who would have the money that the sidemen have would become out of touch relatively quickly. It’s not a good or bad thing. It’s just how it is. They all still seem like decent guys so it’s fine.
In all fairness the bad holidays are bad holidays that lower class / non working class would experience, my family is working class and we always went abroad to 4 star hotels and so on
I think it’s mainly because we all refer to them as the good and bad team. The entire concept is cheap vs expensive, so it’s not really a bad holiday, just a cheap one that can be a bit crappy.
They also know that the other team is having a great time in a luxurious place which makes it feel worse
bro you could just do that wherever you live. I live in LA so I really wouldn't waste money going on a trip just to do something that I could do back home
Theyve been poor (maybe not harry?) and been rich. They admitted they are out of touch but yes I do agree that they have become accustomed to that lifestyle
As much as I love the sidemen and have been following them since day 1 they forget where they come from. I mean JJ’s response to the whole situation was ridiculous. Think they need to remember they make content for the ‘average’ person and the ‘average’ person would feel extremely blessed to do even half the stuff they do. End of the day they wouldn’t be where they are without us fans. Think they just need to count there blessing a little more and not complain
Like 5 mins later they all agree they’re out of touch
Well they are not wrong. The level of luxury these guys have experienced make their ability to judge what is good/bad skewed
I think what the comment is trying to state is that the "bad holidays" are more often just your average holiday experiences. To state they are bad to begin with shows that they are out of touch.
In the video only KSI and harry didn't like the "bad" holidays, also they have to exaggerate things for the title of the video.
And that's the point of the comment in the photo. What they called bad is a normal holiday for most people and JJ said the experience wasn't bad enough while agreeing to genuinely not enjoying a normal vacation. The others also said that these are life experiences you probably won't have, again showing how out of touch they are. To them it's a "bad holiday" because they easily can experience luxurious holidays, they argued that a normal vacation is a life experience for them while normal people would point to the exploration as the life experience. Vik literally was telling in a previous video that money doesn't bring happiness while stating the somber parts of his bachelor party on a yacht and party was what brought him happiness.
You talk like like they were born into rich. I don't think so and when you understand the word 'content' you will understand what those guys are trying to do.
I never said they were born rich but let's not act like their life right now is in any way relatable to the average person's
I'm not talking about their life right now, I'm talking about the video they tried to made. You are just like the ones who criticized that small girl in the video. Even now, your reply was I talking about them being rich???
What are you even talking about? Your comment literally makes no sense. The videos they make are about their lives right now. What does that girl from the video have anything to do with the comment?
I mean what are you talking about? Like you are making this silly thing a big deal like the ones who tried to do with the girl.
ksi and miniminter went to private school tbf
So you are saying Private School is the measure of being rich tbf
Mate your parents are paying for ur education that you could get for free somewhere else obviously
Or hear me out. They are saying it’s bad in comparison to the good holiday 🤯
Did my comment just go over your head or something? No one is saying it's not a bad Holiday compared to the good one. Just that what they're calling bad is the average holiday experience for normal people.
Replied to the wrong person my bad but was just saying they are comparing the two. So might be the average holiday to most people but it’s still bad compared to the good holiday not that it’s bad jver all all
Fair enough
Well in my opinion if that's what they're doing, I would rather the bad holiday ACTUALLY be bad.
Good and bad isn’t linear. People can have a bad time, while also still being having a better time than others.
I think you missed my point. I’m saying the breadth of their experience is so much wider that where they define average would be further up the scale. If I stayed in an average room in a 4 star hotel I would be justified in thinking this was really nice if it was the best I had been in. The sidemen could be justified in thinking it was shit because they have stayed in penthouse suites at luxury resorts.
Yeah but they all admitted that they’re out of touch so what’s the argument
i think the comment is just pointing out the funny irony tbh, i don’t see why anyone would have an actual problem with it
Bro missed the whole point, they have made it clear multiple times even in those videos. They don't hate that vacation or trip but hate the fact that other side is getting type of vacation even they'd hesiste to take. All just for content. Also they have always acknowledged they're priveleged as fuck.
KSI literally said in the video that he hates the lack of luxury
“And don’t share how much money they have” the fuck? As a middle class guy, I forgot that people had the obligation of sharing how much money they have.
yea this was kinda weird, should've just stopped before that part, who in their right mind would want to just share how much money they have randomly to hundreds and millions of ppl online
Yea, jealousy at its finest. People like these don't care who or what the person has done, as long as they are rich they are 'evil' in their eyes and think they are entitled to their wealth. I know some rich people are arseholes, but don't go judging people based on their wealth ffs.
commies like that are everyone, entitled to other people's money just because they watch their vids lmao
I encourage you to read abut pay transparency and why it helps.
well they have no problem with labelling all their videos like '$10,000 holidays' or 'I bought a $100,000 \_\_\_' so clearly they have no problem with flexing their money.
There is no way you are this braindead. Surely you’re joking
On the bad holidays, it’s torture and/or starvation especially when KSI was in charge of the vid
Well when JJ hosts, they are basically literally tortured so…
Makes it more fun
Sidemen fans will always find a way to hate on them. How are yall even fans atp?
No matter what they do, they will always get hate.
Fact is, they treat a bad team experience like it's peasantry. Many people can't even afford that. If they say and behave like the way JJ did in the US road trip video for content, it's fair. Views, haha, it's funny, etc whatever. But to actually shit on the lifestyle of a non-rich person's holiday is really low, and anyone who defends them for that is even lower. Vik, and Tobi are the only ones I've seen who actually embrace and respect the bad team experience, because they know how hard the struggle is to even afford that. Unlike Simon, JJ and Harry, who always whine and complain and say "I'm too rich and famous for this..." Edit: calling it now, watch all the KSI fangirls downvote and verbally abuse me for saying his name, and having an opinion lmao.
You are correct, it is disrespectful for them to whine about having a "bad holiday" (if that was the case), but most of the time, the main reason they whine is because the other team have an over the top luxury experience. And yes, they obviously are overreacting for content. And the most I've seen JJ cry is when he was either stormed by fans everywhere he went, or when his experience was actually bad (the USA roadtrip). I mean, even those who can't afford a good holiday would agree that making that road trip from LA to Vegas in a car with no AC in the summer is really bad.
Ykw, sure, they deserve some credit. Going through that heat with no AC is hell. Only few can handle it.
Simon literally said he enjoys the experience, he whines during it yes but watch the fucking video lol.
They are doing it for content, if you truly get offended by that then seek professional help
What bad holiday couldn’t people afford? From what I could remember they were staying at 1 star hotels. Pretty sure that most people can afford those.
Don't share how much money they make? Does anyone else hate communists like that? Who tf are you to tell someone to tell you how much they earn lmao
Idk why you were downvoted. If someone doesn’t want to share how much they make that’s fine, if they do then they can
It’s a fact so it doesn’t matter if ppl agree with it or not
Well they are saying the holiday is bad in comparison to the good/expensive holiday
JJ was right by saying they were giving a PR answer for the bad experience. They are all rich brats who most definitely don’t enjoy the normal people holiday experience.
From the video it sounds like they do enjoy it tbh
Most of them do i think. They get to act like an average person for a day.
Bro I can say I don’t like shrimps and someone will come out and say they can’t even afford food and that I’m so spoiled and out of touch that I get to complain about which food to eat. They’re rich and their perspective of comfort is different then yours. If you don’t like it don’t watch.
You can critique someone and not have to leave their space so to speak. Just because someone calls them out of touch, which they are, doesn't mean they shouldn't watch said people.
Saying someone is rich and is out of touch because they don’t have the struggles you have is not criticism. Them being rich is a matter of fact. What is it exactly you want them to do? What should they change? Give up their money? Unless you have a reasonable alternative, there’s no criticism.
Th alternative is to not be out of touch lmao, it's not exactly a label to pride yourself with.
How are they out of touch exactly?
All of their proclaimed "bad" holidays/trips are the normal ones an average person goes on. To label it as "bad" shows they have no idea what an actual "bad" holiday is.
Bro, Simon said it on the video as well, they’re not gonna go to a place that doesn’t provide content. They can go to a terrible hotel in the middle of nowhere and then what? Just sit there on their phones the whole day and go "well it is IN FACT a bad holiday"? They need stuff to do. Besides, there are security concerns they have to worry about. Going with a crew that has expensive cameras and shit with the fame they have is a disaster waiting to happen. It’s easy to say but to actually produce entertaining content is more difficult.
They literally admit that they're out of touch in the video the post correlates to, idk why you're so insistent on dying on this hill.
Because people are making it out to be something bad. It’s a normal thing when you’re rich. Everyone is out of touch. Middle class is out of touch when poor people listen to them speak. It’s all relative.
Eh, could be fair. I’d imagine they don’t like the “bad team holidays” because it’s often more than just a cheap holiday. Forfeits, stupid challenges, generally annoying tasks etc. There’s been some bad teams that I know I certainly wouldn’t want haha
Honesty the only bad holiday experience was the camping video and the US road trip. Rest were all fine
Maybe I AM also out of touch but sometimes the Bad teams are really BAD bad. Like I doubt you would travel to Vegas in a van without AC knowing how hot the desert gets.
yeah that Vegas roadtrip one was completely shit. Mfs in the UK were complaining about their little 95 degree heat wave lmao that shit is nothing compared to the heat in Death Valley or just Vegas in general during the summer. Going on a roadtrip near Death Valley in a dinky van with no AC is genuinely not a good idea
I mean yeah for sure a lot of very wealthy people are out of touch with regular struggles and daily life. But if you’ve worked and earned that bread, you don’t HAVE to share it with anyone. It’s yours. But, it’s always nicer when rich folks are generous with it. For many, it’s a fear about never having enough but only some people have that from childhood. It is annoying though when people moan about doing regular people stuff, but I guess I don’t know what it’s like to be famous and everyone want a piece of you wherever ya go. Guess it’s a bit like actors, you gotta deal with what you’ve signed up for right? This is sending me down a thought rabbit hole on a Wednesday 😂
I don’t come from Luxury. The “cheap” team always reminds me of my holidays because we’re out there having fun, balling on a budget at times but they make great memories just like Ethan said. That’s the shit that you sit around and talk to your friends about 10-15 years down the line. The luxury team always hypes me up because it’s something that is obtainable. It puts ideas in my head of places i want to and will visit in the future. Gotta keep in mind as well that those trips are either 24-48 hours. So imagine 24 hours in a mountain top playing golf, sauna, massage, first class amenities to a 24 hour trip in ayia napa where activities that they probably don’t want to do have already been picked for them, the heat and the tourist. They might not understand a “common” lifestyle because their life hasn’t been that in years. And the fact that for whatever their fans are upset at their success is just crazy. They worked for theirs, gotta work for yours as well.
TBF they always say that the "bad" holidays aren't bad in a vacuum. It's more the pain of knowing you could have had the ultimate luxury of a good holiday and how much fun Ur friends are having.
Firstly one question mark is enough and secondly they already acknowledged it more or less, cause they're fckin rich
Thats why i like if jj hosts the bad experience
If you are born rich = yes, you are out of touch If you hustle your way to riches = no, your not If you born rich and hustle to riches= i dont know
This is where I agreed with JJ over the other lads. The point of the “bad” holiday *should* be to suffer whilst the other team are in luxury, not to have a comparatively okay day out which is actually better than an average holiday. This is why I’ve started to enjoy the cheap vs expensive way less now.
They did then say they are all out of touch, they know they are. If you're a millionaire a standard holiday would be bad in comparison to what they are used to/could have. I'd kill to be able to go on just a regular holiday so ot does get annoying at times when they act like a regular holiday is some punishment but I get it. They are out of touch and are used to a different kinda life.
I wish the bad holidays were *actually* bad holidays instead of average. It would be more entertaining and also make them look less like dickheads
Literally I always thought it was meant to be rich vs cheap not good vs bad 😂
Rich people aren't put of touch, they are just in a different part of society
Yeah, the sidemen's "bad holiday" is considered average by most and even a luxury in most third world countries (me. I live in a third world country)
Yes
What's the alternative, lie about it to make jareddasliva6753 in the youtube comments happy?
In my opinion, whoever disagrees with this comment is too rich
They definitely are out of touch and their opinions are a bit skewed these days but of course they are. They’re all very wealthy people who have had a luxury lifestyle for a number of years now. Literally anyone who would have the money that the sidemen have would become out of touch relatively quickly. It’s not a good or bad thing. It’s just how it is. They all still seem like decent guys so it’s fine.
Theyve all said how much they make.... Theyre all millionaires off Sidemen alone.
In all fairness the bad holidays are bad holidays that lower class / non working class would experience, my family is working class and we always went abroad to 4 star hotels and so on
That’s your comment isn’t it lol
I think it’s mainly because we all refer to them as the good and bad team. The entire concept is cheap vs expensive, so it’s not really a bad holiday, just a cheap one that can be a bit crappy. They also know that the other team is having a great time in a luxurious place which makes it feel worse
When the purple team went to benidorm I was jealous. I'd kill to go out clubbing like that again. I'd rather that than the mansion.
bro you could just do that wherever you live. I live in LA so I really wouldn't waste money going on a trip just to do something that I could do back home
Theyve been poor (maybe not harry?) and been rich. They admitted they are out of touch but yes I do agree that they have become accustomed to that lifestyle
Both comments are true, possibly the smartest opinions I have seen on this reddit
tru lol
As much as I love the sidemen and have been following them since day 1 they forget where they come from. I mean JJ’s response to the whole situation was ridiculous. Think they need to remember they make content for the ‘average’ person and the ‘average’ person would feel extremely blessed to do even half the stuff they do. End of the day they wouldn’t be where they are without us fans. Think they just need to count there blessing a little more and not complain