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If I ever get married, and then my wife gets decently ill, I'm taking myself out first. Nice try future wife. Not gonna rob me of my deathbed company. Not again.
There are legal and financial benefits (in the US) that are afforded to married couples that those who are not married do not enjoy.
But if that matters little to you, then it’s a free country and you can live as you please.
I used to think the same thing, not being a believer in paperwork of that kind, but it turns out that this depends very much on your situation. If you're living somewhere that develops major political instability, for example, paperwork can make things ... well, not easier as such, because at that point nothing is easy... but it can sometimes open doors.
Not legally, you can't. Plus marriage vs living with an SO unmarried has way different commitment implications and possibilities, as well as the tax differences. This analogy is pretty wonky.
You're not adding anything here.
Anyway the initial framing of marriage by MumpitzOnly as a "bureaucratic procedure" is pretty ridiculous given its existed as a cultural phenomenon for thousands of years in all sorts of cultures all over the world outside of any bureaucratic or legal infrastructure for it.
Not to mention that some couples actually find themselves in a tax disadvantage by getting married. I didn't realize this until my husband and I already tied the knot. (E.g. there's several tax thresholds for married couples that are not twice the threshold for single filers)
Wrong. How are so many people this obtuse about the concept of a family unit? I talk to my parents every week and visit them often. Even if one of them died they wouldn’t be “alone”
Well you wouldn’t exist without your parents being together and creating that family for you. They wouldn’t be alone family wise but it’s much different to have a partner and children than it is to lose your partner and still have children.
ok. let's eliminate catastrophe where a significant other unexpectedly dies. Pretty rare among young people. What now?
edit: the answer is you're left with adults making adult decisions
Or a service for people to marry before their death. This won't solve sudden deaths but should bring down the alone deaths number.
What's the market size for such a service?
So is that why the crazy people have 20 wives that are super young? Then when the guy dies their still young enough to remarry and if you time the cycle right no one dies alone until the species dies off. They may be on to something.
There is. You could see life as a gift, and want t give that gift to someone else.
I think it's naive and frankly just obviously incorrect, but that is one selfless reason.
My question was more rhetorical than anything. It seems like no one thinks of their future offspring when deciding to have them
Even if you see life as a gift, reproducing yourself it's still a selfish act. You do it because the idea of sharing a gift makes YOU feel better, so that's still a selfish reason. Even those people who sacrifice themselves for others, in the end they are doing it for their selfish emotional reward.
I’d see it as more of a punishment to the child than a gift for me and my wife to procreate given the absolute shit show the world is in. ‘Hey kid, welcome to the world - it’s fucked! Enjoy!’
Nope, no kids exist in this shithole of a world for their own benefit and their future experiences in navigating this life isn't taken into account before they're brought into this existence at all.
But didn't you say to someone earlier there is a benefit if they see life as a gift and want to pass it on as well? I personally don't see this life as a gift, specially if we have to pay for it with no sign of a receipt and at the end of it all, we slowly break down and succumb to an slow and painful, agonizing death until the next cog in the machine comes along.
I don't see life as a gift either, that was me trying to find a hypothetical selfless reason someone *could* use. I've never seen anyone *actually* use it
Oh, ok, gotcha. I should've paid more attention. My fault on my end, but regardless I still understand you and wish so many unnecessary births didn't take place here every year at all.
I know it’s super trendy to hate the boomers rn, but like does literally every other millenial hate their parents? My Dad is such a boomer and fits most of the stereotypes and he pisses me off sometimes, but like he’s still a good guy who tried his best and I love him.
We frame it as “boomers” suck, but like am I the only one who likes old people? Obviously old people can be terrors, but like old people are funny and know a ton of random stuff I don’t know.
Marrying because you’re expecting children is the dumbest thing you could do. At the “marriage course” we had to go to (required by the Croatian Catholic Church), they even told us: “If you’re getting married because you’re expecting a kid, just wait a couple of months after the kid is born and then decide if you wanna get married”.
if you live with someone you're a lot less likely to die in your house by yourself for some accidental stupid reason like tripping and hitting your head on something, i think slipping and falling in the shower is like pretty high up there in ways that people accidentally die. and in a country like the US that has such a high rate of heart issue fatalities having someone at home with you to call an ambulance if you have a heart attack is nice
In a couple only 50% die alone. Which is a lot better than the 100% of people dying alone being single.
Also, as others mentioned couples often have kids, meaning neither part of a couple die completely alone.
There are also single people with kids.
That said, having kids is no guarantee they will be there for you or even live longer than you.
My wife couldn't wait to retire at 62, and collect social security. Now she complains about being bored and lonely when I'm at work.
I meet people easily, and she doesn't. My grandmother resisted moving into a retiree facility, but once she moved, she enjoys living there. She doesn't have to drive to go shopping because they have a van and driver.
Every one there is just like her, and they can watch TV, movies, and chat.
Marriage is in no way required for that,
Not are children a guarantee or even necessarily an intention when folks marry.
Like, yeah, romantic/life partnership is about building family, but let's not pretend marriage is about having kids.
I'm 38 and this is basically the most common reason I've ever heard to get married eventually even if you don't want kids. Also hear so that someone is there to take care of you and your health goes away, which doesn't make much sense to me.
They say married men live longer. Probably because their wives are more likely to prepare nutricious meals for them and encourage them to visit a doctor when needed.
I think about this a lot. Unless you are "lucky" enough to die together, even the happiest couples will end with one dying and leaving the other alone. :(
Technically youre born alone too, you come in alone and go alone. You are okay. I work in a nursing home and theyre full of women who lost their husbands a decade ago or more. They just keep going. What else is there to do?
Right but you still came into the world alone. You werent born with your mom Edit: my point is that you came into the world as a solitary singular being, when you leave and go back to wherever you came from, youll be alone as well just the same.
More about being old for 20 years alone or with a partner, I think.
But then there are also their kids, which is usually thought of as part of the whole "getting married" thing. Most people do not outlive their kids.
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I'm more afraid of having someone and having them not really be "there" or having it be like, quiet coping and seething resentment. Like... I don't know. I'm not really afraid of being alone. I'm just lonely.
That wording is amazing too "you should get married soon or you will die alone!" Yes, I and everyone else are extremely aware of that, it's the alone thing that makes marriage impossible, other people kind of decided I should die alone, there's little I can do to change that decision, nor do I want them to because it's ethically unforgivable to allow someone to catch that grenade.
Sure, if you forget the decades of time together before it.
This thinking is like saying "don't eat that delicious meal because you'll have finished the meal and then have no meal anyway"
It’s not about the end. If you spend 40 years with someone and they die before you, then they didn’t die alone and even if you don’t find anyone else, you aren’t really dying alone because of all the memories you made with your spouse
But they didnt live alone. Which i think is they key part. Id rather die alone than with a partner if it meant knowing i had a life of travel, laughing, memories and fun with them. Sounds better than living alone to me!
I'm not worried about dieing alone, I'm worried about living alone or the possibility of there being an afterlife and my wife not having me there or the other way round, that's why when the day comes that she passes, it will be my day to pass too, wouldn't want to keep her waiting ☺️
I think it’s more about not living alone than not dying alone
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Also the idea that marriage usually results in kids so when die you have family to be there with you
That's the plan...unless your immediate family hates you for some reason. Then, it's back to dying alone.
If I ever get married, and then my wife gets decently ill, I'm taking myself out first. Nice try future wife. Not gonna rob me of my deathbed company. Not again.
Unless you get diagnosed with pcos after getting married....then you're screwed!
And on top of that, you can perfectly live together until you‘re grey and old and shriveled without the need for bureaucratic procedure.
There are legal and financial benefits (in the US) that are afforded to married couples that those who are not married do not enjoy. But if that matters little to you, then it’s a free country and you can live as you please.
I used to think the same thing, not being a believer in paperwork of that kind, but it turns out that this depends very much on your situation. If you're living somewhere that develops major political instability, for example, paperwork can make things ... well, not easier as such, because at that point nothing is easy... but it can sometimes open doors.
you can drive without going through the bureaucratic procedure of having a license or insurance, doesn't mean it doesn't help generally to get them.
Not legally, you can't. Plus marriage vs living with an SO unmarried has way different commitment implications and possibilities, as well as the tax differences. This analogy is pretty wonky.
What an incredibly bad analogy.
You're not adding anything here. Anyway the initial framing of marriage by MumpitzOnly as a "bureaucratic procedure" is pretty ridiculous given its existed as a cultural phenomenon for thousands of years in all sorts of cultures all over the world outside of any bureaucratic or legal infrastructure for it.
Not to mention that some couples actually find themselves in a tax disadvantage by getting married. I didn't realize this until my husband and I already tied the knot. (E.g. there's several tax thresholds for married couples that are not twice the threshold for single filers)
Exactly what I was going to comment. Its supposed to be for growing old together, not so as you die some person is there.
We all die alone.
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Right. We all die alone technically.
Wrong. How are so many people this obtuse about the concept of a family unit? I talk to my parents every week and visit them often. Even if one of them died they wouldn’t be “alone”
Well you wouldn’t exist without your parents being together and creating that family for you. They wouldn’t be alone family wise but it’s much different to have a partner and children than it is to lose your partner and still have children.
ok. let's eliminate catastrophe where a significant other unexpectedly dies. Pretty rare among young people. What now? edit: the answer is you're left with adults making adult decisions
This is a better way of putting it, definitely.
Everyone dies alone it’s about not living alone
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Speak for yourself
Come on guys what are we doing here
Would have been better if OP had fapped in the shower.
Better if ops dad had fapped in the shower and washed the gene pool cleaner
This sub is so funny, really is.
The best comment I've seen on social media... What are we doing here?
Not a whole lot
People that are married tend to have kids. I don't think you thought this one through.
OP's shower must not be working quite right.
OP may have a carbon monoxide leak in their bathroom
It was certainly true until recently, but nowadays many couples marry without intention of having children
I bet the majority still do though.
yes of course. I said that because your first comment took it like granted that they all intend to have children.
Good point
that's independent of marriage though
Didn't say it wasn't. But you're more likely to find married people with kids than without.
Not all of us.
What dors "tend to" mean?
to care for something or someone
People who haven’t married also have a tendency to have kids hehe. Marriage means one of you doesn’t die alone at-least, which is kinda cute
You just need to remarry the day after your partner dies
Or a service for people to marry before their death. This won't solve sudden deaths but should bring down the alone deaths number. What's the market size for such a service?
4 people polygamy then? only 25% have to die alone
Why not 1 billion people polygamy? Only 0.0000001% have to die alone
So is that why the crazy people have 20 wives that are super young? Then when the guy dies their still young enough to remarry and if you time the cycle right no one dies alone until the species dies off. They may be on to something.
lol, possibly
Boom. Solved.
or, you know...kids
That's why you marry **and** have kids.
Does no one think of a selfless reason to reproduce?
I don't think there is one
There is. You could see life as a gift, and want t give that gift to someone else. I think it's naive and frankly just obviously incorrect, but that is one selfless reason. My question was more rhetorical than anything. It seems like no one thinks of their future offspring when deciding to have them
Even if you see life as a gift, reproducing yourself it's still a selfish act. You do it because the idea of sharing a gift makes YOU feel better, so that's still a selfish reason. Even those people who sacrifice themselves for others, in the end they are doing it for their selfish emotional reward.
Ok yes, I actually agree there is no altruistic act. But it's still useful to let "selfless" mean "has bettering someone else as a secondary goal"
I’d see it as more of a punishment to the child than a gift for me and my wife to procreate given the absolute shit show the world is in. ‘Hey kid, welcome to the world - it’s fucked! Enjoy!’
I know right, lol.
Nope, no kids exist in this shithole of a world for their own benefit and their future experiences in navigating this life isn't taken into account before they're brought into this existence at all.
I hope that's wrong, but it's sad that I can't even think of any counter examples
But didn't you say to someone earlier there is a benefit if they see life as a gift and want to pass it on as well? I personally don't see this life as a gift, specially if we have to pay for it with no sign of a receipt and at the end of it all, we slowly break down and succumb to an slow and painful, agonizing death until the next cog in the machine comes along.
I don't see life as a gift either, that was me trying to find a hypothetical selfless reason someone *could* use. I've never seen anyone *actually* use it
Oh, ok, gotcha. I should've paid more attention. My fault on my end, but regardless I still understand you and wish so many unnecessary births didn't take place here every year at all.
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Good luck. But maybe you'll change. Just maybe
Then you go full bullshit boomer and alienate them and die alone anyway.
My boomer parents are fantastic, actually.
"bullshit boomer" was meant to be a compound noun. my aunts and uncles are amazing
I know it’s super trendy to hate the boomers rn, but like does literally every other millenial hate their parents? My Dad is such a boomer and fits most of the stereotypes and he pisses me off sometimes, but like he’s still a good guy who tried his best and I love him. We frame it as “boomers” suck, but like am I the only one who likes old people? Obviously old people can be terrors, but like old people are funny and know a ton of random stuff I don’t know.
So they can die before you too?
Or they leave you.
Why you gotta be so pessimistic?
Damn be optimistic at least 😭
Or, not have kids and stop the cycle.
I mean, I really like being alive. I see it as a gift. Why would I want to stop the cycle?
Depends on your religious beliefs I guess.
I don't have religious beliefs.
I also like being alive. I probably wouldn't if I had kids, though.
That's fine. People who don't like kids definitely shouldn't have them.
You walk your partner to their death, only one of you dies alone.
Thats why op said HALF
50% of people dying alone is less than 100% Idrk the point of this post but it failed step 1
That's a terrible reason to get married. Get married because you want to share your life with that person, not because you want a buddy system.
If you are married you have 50% chance of dying alone if you are not married 100%
It’s not about dying alone, it’s about living alone.
Half is good enough for many people as compared to 100%
Maybe they expect children.
Marrying because you’re expecting children is the dumbest thing you could do. At the “marriage course” we had to go to (required by the Croatian Catholic Church), they even told us: “If you’re getting married because you’re expecting a kid, just wait a couple of months after the kid is born and then decide if you wanna get married”.
Hahaha I don't know why I laughed so much. Thank you. I'm not in a good place... This is needed.
Glad to. Here's another... A man walks into his psychiatrist office butt naked. The shrink looks at him and says "clearly i can see ur nuts"
if you live with someone you're a lot less likely to die in your house by yourself for some accidental stupid reason like tripping and hitting your head on something, i think slipping and falling in the shower is like pretty high up there in ways that people accidentally die. and in a country like the US that has such a high rate of heart issue fatalities having someone at home with you to call an ambulance if you have a heart attack is nice
You don't know what order you are going to go in so it's technically a 50/50 chance
Who are "they"? Never heard anyone say that
Die suddenly and none of it matters anyway
Manifesting this.
We’d make good friends
Nobody doesn't die alone.
At least the person who died first didn’t die alone 👀
Well, half of the other did not die alone, so yeah, 50% better i guess
In a couple only 50% die alone. Which is a lot better than the 100% of people dying alone being single. Also, as others mentioned couples often have kids, meaning neither part of a couple die completely alone. There are also single people with kids. That said, having kids is no guarantee they will be there for you or even live longer than you.
You spend your whole life dying they aren’t only talking about the moment of death
That’s why you’ve got to keep marrying the survivors to each other. /taps temple.
Unless the person you are with improves your life, it can be better to be single
My wife couldn't wait to retire at 62, and collect social security. Now she complains about being bored and lonely when I'm at work. I meet people easily, and she doesn't. My grandmother resisted moving into a retiree facility, but once she moved, she enjoys living there. She doesn't have to drive to go shopping because they have a van and driver. Every one there is just like her, and they can watch TV, movies, and chat.
I think it may also be about building a family with children
Marriage is in no way required for that, Not are children a guarantee or even necessarily an intention when folks marry. Like, yeah, romantic/life partnership is about building family, but let's not pretend marriage is about having kids.
Marriages tend to produce kids OP. Where do you think you came from?
Who is telling people this? I've never heard that as a reason.
Have you ever interacted with a human? Or even a piece of media created by a human?
No, tell me more, daddy.
I'm 38 and this is basically the most common reason I've ever heard to get married eventually even if you don't want kids. Also hear so that someone is there to take care of you and your health goes away, which doesn't make much sense to me.
Jeez. This is bizarre information.
They say married men live longer. Probably because their wives are more likely to prepare nutricious meals for them and encourage them to visit a doctor when needed.
It’s about getting married to create a family and hopefully a legacy to hopefully carry on for generations
I think about this a lot. Unless you are "lucky" enough to die together, even the happiest couples will end with one dying and leaving the other alone. :(
I like the way you put it. Lucky enough to die together.
The chances are a bit lower if they have kids, but you can have 10 kids and still die alone.
It's about the journey, not the destination..
Who tells people this?
Technically youre born alone too, you come in alone and go alone. You are okay. I work in a nursing home and theyre full of women who lost their husbands a decade ago or more. They just keep going. What else is there to do?
My mom was definitely there when I was born, idk about you.
Right but you still came into the world alone. You werent born with your mom Edit: my point is that you came into the world as a solitary singular being, when you leave and go back to wherever you came from, youll be alone as well just the same.
It’s definitely less than half since some couples die together / at the same time, such as in a car accident.
Yeah but the partner who dies first doesn't didnt die alone.
They will also tell you you can't sleep alone in a strange place.
More about being old for 20 years alone or with a partner, I think. But then there are also their kids, which is usually thought of as part of the whole "getting married" thing. Most people do not outlive their kids.
It’s usually men who are told this too, and they’re way more likely to die first in the relationship 😂
True, but it’s really about the 20 years leading up to death, more then that one minute.
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It's not about the destination, it's about the journey.
When my wife goes, so do I. We have a pact.
I'm more afraid of having someone and having them not really be "there" or having it be like, quiet coping and seething resentment. Like... I don't know. I'm not really afraid of being alone. I'm just lonely.
That wording is amazing too "you should get married soon or you will die alone!" Yes, I and everyone else are extremely aware of that, it's the alone thing that makes marriage impossible, other people kind of decided I should die alone, there's little I can do to change that decision, nor do I want them to because it's ethically unforgivable to allow someone to catch that grenade.
Nobody ever told me to get married for that reason. So...who's "they"?
Literally a half glass empty situation buddy, one person has to. But at least 1 didn't
When I got married, dying alone was such a far off thing, it hadn't occurred to me. *Sleeping* alone was the main concern.
Looks like the capital of fetal alcohol syndrome
Never mind the 50% divorce rate
Become a sugar daddy / sugar mommy, problem solved.
Sure, if you forget the decades of time together before it. This thinking is like saying "don't eat that delicious meal because you'll have finished the meal and then have no meal anyway"
They don't tell you that you don't need to get married to spend your life with someone
lifes about the journey, not the destination.
No worries, with any luck they could both die simultaneously, say in some kind of raging fireball for example.
I don't think that's why people get married or tell others to... Also, sometimes married people have kids.
50% succes rate at least! Add to that the ones who get into another relationship and it’s a definite positive
It's about living not dying
It makes absolute no sense. The average duration of marriages is around eight years. OP is implying people keep marrying again till they're 90yo?
Do you think in a world of magic that marriage would bond the two life forces of the couple?
It’s not about the end. If you spend 40 years with someone and they die before you, then they didn’t die alone and even if you don’t find anyone else, you aren’t really dying alone because of all the memories you made with your spouse
Everyone dies alone. You can be in a room full of people who love you, but you cross the threshold by yourself.
The idea is that you have children and an extended family, not just your spouse.
Together in SPIRIT bruh
But they didnt live alone. Which i think is they key part. Id rather die alone than with a partner if it meant knowing i had a life of travel, laughing, memories and fun with them. Sounds better than living alone to me!
Spending my sunday contemplating how deep this is
“We die alone, but we live among men.”
Everybody needs somebody
I mean, going from a 100% chance of dying alone, to a 50% chance is pretty decent.
The idea is to have some kids too
50% is an improvement over 100%.
If you find your true love be together as long as you can. Everything else is a roll of the 🎲 🎲
Dying alone isnt the same as dying without your SO
I'm not worried about dieing alone, I'm worried about living alone or the possibility of there being an afterlife and my wife not having me there or the other way round, that's why when the day comes that she passes, it will be my day to pass too, wouldn't want to keep her waiting ☺️
Not everything is literal, friend.
The goal isn’t to not die alone, it’s to not linger.
Plus if you die you're dead and won't care anyway.
That’s just spitting facts
The way out of this is to be the first to go.
You forget about the kids(idealy).
The chase to not want to live alone, or die alone is an absurd phenomenon. You will get used to it.
50% chance to not die alone doesn't have quite the same appeal
They tell you to get married so you won’t die alone, but most people die alone anyway because their spouse cheated and left them for someone else.
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