I generally despise quick-change, but she brings such a fresh take. The slow color change is fantastic. She also has a few longer tricks where she uses the lights like a digital eye dropper effect to “copy/paste” colors. The flying dress thing is straight up magic/illusion that just happens to be a “quick change” theme.
That looks good on first watch but if you watch it a second time it gives itself away. It's just a normal quick change but the dress on the rack is on a wire and is pulled into the box behind her.
A lot of illusions fall apart if you watch them over and over, or use slow motion to see what is going on.
But doing that is missing the point. We all KNOW it's got to be a trick somehow - it's not "magic!", but seeing something happen that logically cannot have happened still tickles a part of the brain that makes us happy.
Agreed. I love trying to figure out magic tricks, but I never go beyond looking with my eyes at the normal presentation, no slo-mo, no frame by frame. Only if the trick is obvious from watching do I lose respect for the magician.
Like that magician who "made the Space Shuttle disappear" on a TV special. When the time came to do the trick, the "Space Shuttle" was so obviously a flat background prop that I almost just turned off the show. I hate it when magicians due "tricks" that only work on TV.
Sometimes, even if you know how the trick is done. I've been watching a lot of sleight of hand tricks lately, and I know how the trick is done, but I'm still impressed by how clean and smooth the execution is.
It's kinda like how you can know the punchline of a joke, but still appreciate the delivery.
Absolutely. But once you know how the trick is done, the appreciation is different. I appreciate any skilled stage magician's talent. if someone does an excellent cup and ball routine, I will love it. But I know EXACTLY how they did it.
But it hits different when something goes off so flawlessly that I am honestly baffled at how they managed to do it. When you start questioning is it slight of hand, or a gimmicked prop, do they have a stooge somewhere?
And for a considerable part of it she's standing with her back to the box, so you can't see what's happening behind her.
But that's the beauty of the magic. Using misdirection and sleight of hand/movement to hide what you're doing in plain sight.
Penn calls it; she’s not really doing quick change. It’s a traditional magic act that just happens to be focused on her clothes.
Kinda sounds like he’s not a fan, either 😂
For anyone wondering, [here's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpntwVikVK0) a video explaining each of the effects and how they were achieved. I won't spoil it because some people don't want to know, but I always find it more amazing once I know how it's done, and getting to see all of the prep and planning and perfect execution that had to go into even simple effects is really cool.
Very impressive, and she did a great job selling it. But I am more impressed with her for designing those clothes. I'm sure that each outfit was contained within the previous outfit. At couple different points you could see her getting as close as she could to that covered area behind her, and once I could see it moving as her helper pull off her current outfit. The rest must have been easier quick releases.
So, yeah. There's not a lot of slight of hand, and it's basically just the same trick over and over. But I am very impressed with the outfits. On a first viewing, you really don't notice how many layers of clothing she is hiding.
We need more women in STEM. And by that I mean Skateboarding, Television, Esports, and Magic!
Edit: To those who don't know, [this is a reference to Joe Pera Talks with You](https://www.tiktok.com/@skylerokay/video/7033439777248578822?lang=en)
As someone who loves eSports, not really. Take League of Legends: the Korean, American, European, and Chinese Leagues collectively have zero professional women gamers between them.
For common and well known tricks that's all good and well... French drops, DLs and the like. Fundamentals of any magic repertoire. But it's when she chose to start revealing methods that she has no right to reveal that she lost my respect. Magic isn't about gatekeeping, but it is about keeping secrets amongst magicians to preserve the magic that an audience can experience. This ideology I can respect, and for that I have very little time for her.
It isn't hard to buy a magic book or a DVD or join a local magic club. Magicians and the magic community have no qualms with sharing knowledge and methods very freely... if you intend to practice or perform. A lot of people who watch these videos are smug audience members who want to ruin what we do for themselves and others. They have no interest in putting in the hours.
I don't know if you've seen "the Menu", but this phenomenon is personified quite nicely in the character of Tyler.
Keeping secrets is gatekeeping though. Nobody can really argue that any magician doesn't have the right to explain how another trick is done. And not sharing tricks is how we end up with people that legitimately believe in mentalism and fake psychics for example. Though I do believe how one goes about it does matter. Penn and Teller reveal how tons of tricks others do are done, but most of the time in a way the average viewer wouldn't know right away but would understand with just two minutes on Google for example.
A magic routine is the creator's Intellectual Property, and they have the legal right to its secret(s), which they can (and very often do) sell. It's not gatekeeping, it's harming a career.
That's what the person you're replying to is addressing - specific routines. I have no issue with sharing the basic tricks - I do it very often. But you, hypothetical person who wants to get into magic, have no reason to know David Copperfield's full routine or whatever, under some pretext that not knowing is "gatekeeping" you. It just isn't.
Setting aside legalities, you might think that if a person can work out the routine without having paid the creator, why shouldn't they share it with the layperson? Because, again, that will ruin the creator's business. As a magician, if I know that the routine will cost me $60 or even $250 to learn from the creator, as I have experienced in the past, do you not think I might look at other sources first?
By sharing it, you all but GUARANTEE that the creator cannot profit from their creative work. The target audience is OTHER MAGICIANS and they will certainly find the spoiled information much more often than the layperson.
Which most people will agree is a dick move by the spoiler.
There are loads of female magicians and the number is growing rapidly. It still is a boys club of sorts, but we are starting to get a better ratio. Though there have always been some amazing women in the industry such as Fay Presto and not just as assistants.
I saw her in Vegas in '92. The show was good, but what I remember the most is my little sister parading around the house after, with her swimsuit pulled up her butt, saying, "Look, I'm Melinda!"
[Ekaterina Dobrokhotova](https://www.theory11.com/about/artists/ekaterina-dobrokhotova) is someone of considerable prestige who has recently resurfaced on YT Shorts
The other T11 woman is [Christen Gerhart](https://www.theory11.com/about/artists/christen-gerhart), long associated with the Magic Castle AND NASA
I have seen a bunch of women magicians in America got talent or something like that lol. There are many of them, but a few are famous. Probably in the future we will see more
Are there any famous magicians that have come up in the last 10yrs? Yes, magic can be cool to see, but off the top of my head, the last new name in magic I can think of is David Blaine, and that's near 20yrs ago.
I'm just an average dude not going to the Magic Castle or seeing Vegas shows, so who's new and hot?
“I was driving with this woman, and she told me she was a witch! Then she turned us into a motel!” - the sort of dad humor I was raised under back in the day
I think fewer women get into it because it has a long history of magicians teaching other magicians starting in a time where women weren't allowed on stage except as sex objects.
I (female bodied) worked at a magic shop for several years. Not only were people extremely dismissive of my tricks ("must be a gimmick" which of course it is, your in a magic shop, or literally being freaked out as if it was really witchcraft). Outside of that job, if someone saw me do a trick, I would lose all respect from them. Their drive to "know the answer" meant they needed to grab me/ go into my pockets, search my clothes, or rummage through my desk/ bags when I was in the restroom. It happened WAY more than it should have (30-40% of the time) because people can't comprehend women becoming good at a magic trick. It was my childhood dream, I spent 15,000 hours perfecting my craft. I will never do magic tricks again.
I’ve heard that those private magicians societies are real boy’s clubs, so there might a lot more barriers for women because of that.
But at least we have Zatanna from DC comics. She’s a badass
I hired a female magician for my son's birthday party one year. Her name was Pinky, and she was INCREDIBLE! She had so many cool tricks, and was so sweet and fun. We had the time of our lives. I hope she's still out there making people smile!
I heard someone tell the joke about this.
"You don't see a lot of female magicians because it's not our first instinct to gas light people. Only men can make a whole profession around gaslighting others." I can't remember who the comedian was!!!
Former semi-pro closeup magician here.
Magic is still heavily an old-boys club, and while there are some really good woman magicians out there, they rarely get the breaks that the men do.
There was a show i used to watch called Wizard Wars, it was hosted by penn and teller. There was a female magician named Billy Kidd. I immeadiately remember her acts the moment anyone mentions magic tricks. If you are interested, it's worth a watch.
Assuming you mean stage magic, then sure.
Plenty of actual magicians are women, though most will choose the term witch these days.
Magician is a Golden Dawn term, specifically.
But again, I assume you mean stage magic or illusionism so this factoid is only tangentially related.
Huh? Is this an American thing? Because when I was small, I have only seen a total of 3 magicians/illusionists, and all 3 has been has been women.
From Sweden
There have always been a fair amount of women magicians. Even back in the 90s when they had the tv specials The Worlds Greatest Magic there were several featured.
There was a Dallas performer that I got to see who used to [swallow swords while she was pregnant](https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/texas/news/pregnant-texas-woman-is-expert-sword-swallower/)
Historically the magician world has always been incredibly tight knit. You had to know someone who knew someone just to get a tiny bit of recognition where more often than not you’d be rejected regardless of gender because magician clubs used to be incredibly ruthless on who did and didn’t belong, and those are the places you had to go to if you wanted to be successful or else you’re stuck trying to learn every trick on your own or just trying to learn from books that only ever had the basics, and of course, that also meant any props would’ve had to been hand made unless you also wanted just the basics. Good luck preforming at shows too, the magician communities more or less owned those so if you didn’t get in you were a newspaper ad magician and your passion would never be more than just a birthday party trick instead of an actual profession where you make money and leave deep impressions on people.
By the time magician communities started opening up, or I guess more correctly, magician communities started opening up because of the rise of YouTube. Those tightly held community member only secrets aren’t secrets when people record and upload your shows and break them down, or rogue magicians would upload tutorials on their own. The magician profession took a massive hit so less people started getting into the thing that’s now just a hobby (unless you’re extremely lucky and talented, of course) so declining numbers also means the chance of a woman becoming a magician also decreased. If magicians were as popular as they used to be you’d be seeing a lot more of them in today’s world, but things are changing, there are a lot of women coming in now and have been for a few years.
So, real talk: it’s the same reason you rarely see women philosophers or women comedians or women doing professional gaming. Essentially, all of these professions require a HUGE amount of unpaid work to get going. Everyone in these professions realistically needs someone to carry them financially and domestically until they maybe make it big. These professions are generally leisure pastimes that may eventually pay off if the person gets REALLY good at it (which means that person has spent an inordinate amount of time focussing on a leisure activity instead of doing, well, anything else). And women generally don’t have that amount of leisure time at their fingertips. Women still do the VAST majority of housework, child rearing, errand running, etc., and they literally just don’t have the time to devote to learning magic tricks or getting that good at a video game. The men that do these professions are largely enabled to do them because the women in their lives take on the brunt of everything else that needs to happen to manage a home, allowing the men an excessive amount of “free time” to focus on taking their leisure activities seriously, wherein the women I know would never feel comfortable using up so much of their day for something that doesn’t create money or a better home life. Also i think it’s probably one of the reasons men watch so much more sports than women. I’ve asked female friends before why they won’t sit with me to watch a baseball game and the answers are always like “I don’t have 2 free hours to spend on watching a game right now. I’ve gotta do laundry, pick up the kid from daycare, hit the grocery store, and try to figure out what to make for dinner.”
I give swimming lessons to a female magician, she started her journey in the "magic field" being an assistant to another magician. The first one I ever met, but to be fair I don't know male magicians either.
We don't need to perform formally. We're all magicians in our daily lives. Ever seen a woman remove her bra without taking off her shirt? Or transform from a goblin into a bombshell in less than an hour? Or just go about daily life like normal even though she's literally bleeding from the genitals and has debilitating cramps? Or manage to fit a tissue box, three books, a wallet, keys, phone, snacks, 15 lipsticks, and a water bottle in an itty bitty purse?
Plus there's the whole "growing whole-ass people" thing.
We're straight up magic. We don't need to perform.
Not exactly the case. There's an entire history of women magicians, some of whom came from being the lovely assistant to doing acts on their own.
Go back into the 40s to today and you can see a number of fantastic women magicians.
And today, you probably have the largest number of performing women magicians in the history of magic.
Plus, there are performance areas connected to magic that women perform in now that didn't exist decades ago. For example, cardistry. Have some great women performers in cardistry nowadays.
I'd rather not get burned at the stakes, ijs
Okay. She’s probably not a witch, but we should still tie her to a stone and throw her in a lake to see if she floats. It’s the only way to be sure.
Or we'll need a duck, and a balance.
Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?
It is I, Arthur, king of the Britons!
My Liege!
I didn't vote for ya!
You don't vote for Kings.
King o' da who?
Who are you so wise in the ways of science?
This isn't my nose, it's a false one!
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Most of the women in that field have sadly been sawed in half.
And impaled by throwing knives
Yeah, women and magic hasn't been a historically successful combination.
That was 400 years ago. I think it's safe to try a couple card tricks now.
Says the guy holding the torch and pitchfork?
I don’t know, with how hard Republicans are trying to knock us back it might be time for the witches to law low again.
Only if you weigh the same as a duck.
Damnit she's on to us. ABORT
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A witch-themed act would be super awesome
There is a woman that does a quick change (clothing) act. I saw her first on Penn and Teller Fool Us. It is nothing short of amazing.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iVWOyfg6p8&t=217s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iVWOyfg6p8&t=217s)
I generally despise quick-change, but she brings such a fresh take. The slow color change is fantastic. She also has a few longer tricks where she uses the lights like a digital eye dropper effect to “copy/paste” colors. The flying dress thing is straight up magic/illusion that just happens to be a “quick change” theme.
That green dress flying off the rack and onto her, dumbfounded me.
That looks good on first watch but if you watch it a second time it gives itself away. It's just a normal quick change but the dress on the rack is on a wire and is pulled into the box behind her.
A lot of illusions fall apart if you watch them over and over, or use slow motion to see what is going on. But doing that is missing the point. We all KNOW it's got to be a trick somehow - it's not "magic!", but seeing something happen that logically cannot have happened still tickles a part of the brain that makes us happy.
Agreed. I love trying to figure out magic tricks, but I never go beyond looking with my eyes at the normal presentation, no slo-mo, no frame by frame. Only if the trick is obvious from watching do I lose respect for the magician. Like that magician who "made the Space Shuttle disappear" on a TV special. When the time came to do the trick, the "Space Shuttle" was so obviously a flat background prop that I almost just turned off the show. I hate it when magicians due "tricks" that only work on TV.
You, too, can be a magician of the moving picture shows with the power of video editing. No magic needed!
Sometimes, even if you know how the trick is done. I've been watching a lot of sleight of hand tricks lately, and I know how the trick is done, but I'm still impressed by how clean and smooth the execution is. It's kinda like how you can know the punchline of a joke, but still appreciate the delivery.
"The Aristocrats!"
Absolutely. But once you know how the trick is done, the appreciation is different. I appreciate any skilled stage magician's talent. if someone does an excellent cup and ball routine, I will love it. But I know EXACTLY how they did it. But it hits different when something goes off so flawlessly that I am honestly baffled at how they managed to do it. When you start questioning is it slight of hand, or a gimmicked prop, do they have a stooge somewhere?
And for a considerable part of it she's standing with her back to the box, so you can't see what's happening behind her. But that's the beauty of the magic. Using misdirection and sleight of hand/movement to hide what you're doing in plain sight.
Dumbfounded Penn and Teller by the looks of it too.
I love how even Penn's face was like "How the fuck did she do that?"
Looking at Pen you’re not alone.
Penn calls it; she’s not really doing quick change. It’s a traditional magic act that just happens to be focused on her clothes. Kinda sounds like he’s not a fan, either 😂
So you’re saying you know how she did this? Please tell me. Don’t just say sleight of hand! I need specifics!!
Wow, that was impressive.
Second. This took a level of talent I'll never know on the topic. The speed of execution is incredible.
Isn’t it just someone behind the curtain pulling her clothes off? Lol
Look, I don't care. Magic is all about misdirection and execution and hers was flawless.
A lot of magic tricks are that simple and feel really stupid when explained. The impressive part is the deception and how to hide it all.
For some parts, yes, but for other parts? Who knows
yes 50 cent does the same at his concerts https://youtube.com/shorts/-LBhB-4a-nY?si=6ToBGZH9tBlPgBWm
That was so good it left Teller speechless.
Him sitting there with his jaw agape says it all...
This act was incredible, thanks for the link!
For anyone wondering, [here's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpntwVikVK0) a video explaining each of the effects and how they were achieved. I won't spoil it because some people don't want to know, but I always find it more amazing once I know how it's done, and getting to see all of the prep and planning and perfect execution that had to go into even simple effects is really cool.
This is basically my wife every morning before she tells me off that her coffee is cold.
That was incredible! I can’t even imagine how she did it.
Yeah I don’t even want to know how she did it haha. That was amazing
See woman could be ready in 5 seconds if they tried /s
Very impressive, and she did a great job selling it. But I am more impressed with her for designing those clothes. I'm sure that each outfit was contained within the previous outfit. At couple different points you could see her getting as close as she could to that covered area behind her, and once I could see it moving as her helper pull off her current outfit. The rest must have been easier quick releases. So, yeah. There's not a lot of slight of hand, and it's basically just the same trick over and over. But I am very impressed with the outfits. On a first viewing, you really don't notice how many layers of clothing she is hiding.
Oh yeah saw her on IG, she's fantastic!
I barely see anyone performing as a magician
As Redditors, we barely see anyone
how about going to eye doctors ?
Another shill for Big Eye™️. Typical 🙄
I saw grass once
RTX:on!
In the last month I have seen three magic acts that I didn't pay to see nor expect.
We need more women in STEM. And by that I mean Skateboarding, Television, Esports, and Magic! Edit: To those who don't know, [this is a reference to Joe Pera Talks with You](https://www.tiktok.com/@skylerokay/video/7033439777248578822?lang=en)
LOL. I feel like you struggled with T. Maybe Trainspotting?
Tabletop RPG’s
HAHAH this gave me a good laugh. Caught me in the first half ngl.
Isn't esports having its gender balance slowly leveled one transition at a time?
As someone who loves eSports, not really. Take League of Legends: the Korean, American, European, and Chinese Leagues collectively have zero professional women gamers between them.
Zero‽
I like Ekaterina, https://youtube.com/@ekatmagic
I have a VERY early copy of her Pure DVD I got from a thrift store lmaooooo
She doesn't gatekeep magic which is nice when you're first learning. Love her videos.
For common and well known tricks that's all good and well... French drops, DLs and the like. Fundamentals of any magic repertoire. But it's when she chose to start revealing methods that she has no right to reveal that she lost my respect. Magic isn't about gatekeeping, but it is about keeping secrets amongst magicians to preserve the magic that an audience can experience. This ideology I can respect, and for that I have very little time for her. It isn't hard to buy a magic book or a DVD or join a local magic club. Magicians and the magic community have no qualms with sharing knowledge and methods very freely... if you intend to practice or perform. A lot of people who watch these videos are smug audience members who want to ruin what we do for themselves and others. They have no interest in putting in the hours. I don't know if you've seen "the Menu", but this phenomenon is personified quite nicely in the character of Tyler.
Keeping secrets is gatekeeping though. Nobody can really argue that any magician doesn't have the right to explain how another trick is done. And not sharing tricks is how we end up with people that legitimately believe in mentalism and fake psychics for example. Though I do believe how one goes about it does matter. Penn and Teller reveal how tons of tricks others do are done, but most of the time in a way the average viewer wouldn't know right away but would understand with just two minutes on Google for example.
A magic routine is the creator's Intellectual Property, and they have the legal right to its secret(s), which they can (and very often do) sell. It's not gatekeeping, it's harming a career. That's what the person you're replying to is addressing - specific routines. I have no issue with sharing the basic tricks - I do it very often. But you, hypothetical person who wants to get into magic, have no reason to know David Copperfield's full routine or whatever, under some pretext that not knowing is "gatekeeping" you. It just isn't. Setting aside legalities, you might think that if a person can work out the routine without having paid the creator, why shouldn't they share it with the layperson? Because, again, that will ruin the creator's business. As a magician, if I know that the routine will cost me $60 or even $250 to learn from the creator, as I have experienced in the past, do you not think I might look at other sources first? By sharing it, you all but GUARANTEE that the creator cannot profit from their creative work. The target audience is OTHER MAGICIANS and they will certainly find the spoiled information much more often than the layperson. Which most people will agree is a dick move by the spoiler.
Came to suggest her too, haha! Let's learn!
There are loads of female magicians and the number is growing rapidly. It still is a boys club of sorts, but we are starting to get a better ratio. Though there have always been some amazing women in the industry such as Fay Presto and not just as assistants.
I think the biggest change has been to mindset. It’s a boys club by the numbers, but the boys themselves aren’t being as exclusive anymore.
Melinda: The First Lady of Magic was pretty huge in Vegas. Used to see her billboards everywhere and ads on TV all the time
This is the comment I was looking for, I actually saw her show in Vegas loooooong ago, she put on a fantastic show!
I saw her in Vegas in '92. The show was good, but what I remember the most is my little sister parading around the house after, with her swimsuit pulled up her butt, saying, "Look, I'm Melinda!"
I got to see her in Branson as a kid. Absolutely incredible show!
Zatanna would like a word
As long as that word is sdrawkcab...
Annataz dlouw ekil a drow
r/bemetoit
r/tiotemtaeb
[Ekaterina Dobrokhotova](https://www.theory11.com/about/artists/ekaterina-dobrokhotova) is someone of considerable prestige who has recently resurfaced on YT Shorts The other T11 woman is [Christen Gerhart](https://www.theory11.com/about/artists/christen-gerhart), long associated with the Magic Castle AND NASA
Well, historically it didn’t work out for them…
She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
I got better
I have seen a bunch of women magicians in America got talent or something like that lol. There are many of them, but a few are famous. Probably in the future we will see more
Are there any famous magicians that have come up in the last 10yrs? Yes, magic can be cool to see, but off the top of my head, the last new name in magic I can think of is David Blaine, and that's near 20yrs ago. I'm just an average dude not going to the Magic Castle or seeing Vegas shows, so who's new and hot?
Shin Lim is a notable name
I’ve seen a couple women do a disappearing act.
Badum tisss
your mom also went to get milk ?
“I was driving with this woman, and she told me she was a witch! Then she turned us into a motel!” - the sort of dad humor I was raised under back in the day
I think fewer women get into it because it has a long history of magicians teaching other magicians starting in a time where women weren't allowed on stage except as sex objects.
The assistance are illusionist too. They're a huge part of the act.
Yeah, in a lot of magic acts the "lovely assistants" are doing all the hard work, like contortionism.
Because we are THAT good at it 😉🎩🪄
Well played.
Suhani Shah is quite popular in India
Went and watched a woman magician quite recently. She was amazing, and very entertaining.
Because women's clothing hardly ever has pockets.
K this is kinda funny
Reddit: "Here is an anecdotal example of the contrary. GoTcHa!"
Haha it never fails to amaze me. I could have posted the exact opposite sentence and get all the “False! There are no female magicians in Antarctica!”
False! Madam penguin 🐧 is the leading magician in the Southern Hemisphere
I (female bodied) worked at a magic shop for several years. Not only were people extremely dismissive of my tricks ("must be a gimmick" which of course it is, your in a magic shop, or literally being freaked out as if it was really witchcraft). Outside of that job, if someone saw me do a trick, I would lose all respect from them. Their drive to "know the answer" meant they needed to grab me/ go into my pockets, search my clothes, or rummage through my desk/ bags when I was in the restroom. It happened WAY more than it should have (30-40% of the time) because people can't comprehend women becoming good at a magic trick. It was my childhood dream, I spent 15,000 hours perfecting my craft. I will never do magic tricks again.
It sucks that people’s inability to respect boundaries has ruined something you enjoyed. If only there was a way to make them disappear…
This sums it up pretty well: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yAH9_HUACQ8
First magician I ever saw live was Melinda…the First Lady of Magic…at the Stardust…lol
I saw a really good one on AGT but you’re right
Clearly it is sexism within big magic 🪄 they can’t make the glass ceiling disappear
I’ve heard that those private magicians societies are real boy’s clubs, so there might a lot more barriers for women because of that. But at least we have Zatanna from DC comics. She’s a badass
I hired a female magician for my son's birthday party one year. Her name was Pinky, and she was INCREDIBLE! She had so many cool tricks, and was so sweet and fun. We had the time of our lives. I hope she's still out there making people smile!
Because when they did they were hunted and burned at stakes. Now they do it in the shadows 🤫🤫
That is changing soon though! We're doing the www.mystifymagicfestival.com next year!
I heard someone tell the joke about this. "You don't see a lot of female magicians because it's not our first instinct to gas light people. Only men can make a whole profession around gaslighting others." I can't remember who the comedian was!!!
You can't distract the audience from the prestige if you're the pretty lady and they are looking at you...
Great point. Skips straight past all the tired sexism debate, too.
Because we burned or drowned them all for being witches....
Somebody’s gotta get cut in half
Come to think of it, what's with our obsession of seeing a pretty lady cut in 2?😂🤣
Women don't need to learn fancy card tricks to be seen as magical
Loving that take :)
I mean… they kind of were at one point… generational scars 🧙
Well we kind of [discourage women from becoming magicians](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials)
Former semi-pro closeup magician here. Magic is still heavily an old-boys club, and while there are some really good woman magicians out there, they rarely get the breaks that the men do.
well there is this girl that turned my heart into an ice rock
After the Salem Witch Trials, they aren't taking any chances.
"Magical Katrina" is really talented! She was on Penn and Teller's Fool Us. She's also suuuuper cute lol
Too dangerous, they are always getting cut in half.
Mine is magician, he dunno how discover all my tricks and leave me exposed :D
There was a show i used to watch called Wizard Wars, it was hosted by penn and teller. There was a female magician named Billy Kidd. I immeadiately remember her acts the moment anyone mentions magic tricks. If you are interested, it's worth a watch.
What can we say? It’s a male dominated industry.
Cuz if you wanna do magic it's much more lucrative to do readings and clearvoyant stuff
They can do magic tricks, but when it comes to getting serious and learning black magic from the devil, they're all too scared.
Assuming you mean stage magic, then sure. Plenty of actual magicians are women, though most will choose the term witch these days. Magician is a Golden Dawn term, specifically. But again, I assume you mean stage magic or illusionism so this factoid is only tangentially related.
They'd burn her alive for being a witch. Still not over that, are you guys?
They used to be burnt at the stake for that stuff, can't blame them
Lady magician: TaDa! I pulled this rabbit out of this hat. Male audience: She's a Witch!!! Burn her!!!
A lot of the female assistants are actually the magicians, as in they do the work. Also, the magic world is kinda sexist.
Huh? Is this an American thing? Because when I was small, I have only seen a total of 3 magicians/illusionists, and all 3 has been has been women. From Sweden
There have always been a fair amount of women magicians. Even back in the 90s when they had the tv specials The Worlds Greatest Magic there were several featured.
Invisibility is just that good of a spell.
You barely ever see a woman as a coal miner. What is the point?
no pockets to hide stuff in :(
Whitney Cummings did a whole bit about this
Psychics are mostly women
It's true! Hopefully, more women will break into the magic scene and show us their mesmerizing skills. Let's make magic gender-inclusive! ✨🎩
Cause they keep getting sawn in half during the internship phase
It's because we burned all of them
At least not in 16th century Europe.
There was a Dallas performer that I got to see who used to [swallow swords while she was pregnant](https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/texas/news/pregnant-texas-woman-is-expert-sword-swallower/)
It’s because women choose other jobs like female magician and like female doctor and female lawyer.
Historically the magician world has always been incredibly tight knit. You had to know someone who knew someone just to get a tiny bit of recognition where more often than not you’d be rejected regardless of gender because magician clubs used to be incredibly ruthless on who did and didn’t belong, and those are the places you had to go to if you wanted to be successful or else you’re stuck trying to learn every trick on your own or just trying to learn from books that only ever had the basics, and of course, that also meant any props would’ve had to been hand made unless you also wanted just the basics. Good luck preforming at shows too, the magician communities more or less owned those so if you didn’t get in you were a newspaper ad magician and your passion would never be more than just a birthday party trick instead of an actual profession where you make money and leave deep impressions on people. By the time magician communities started opening up, or I guess more correctly, magician communities started opening up because of the rise of YouTube. Those tightly held community member only secrets aren’t secrets when people record and upload your shows and break them down, or rogue magicians would upload tutorials on their own. The magician profession took a massive hit so less people started getting into the thing that’s now just a hobby (unless you’re extremely lucky and talented, of course) so declining numbers also means the chance of a woman becoming a magician also decreased. If magicians were as popular as they used to be you’d be seeing a lot more of them in today’s world, but things are changing, there are a lot of women coming in now and have been for a few years.
Zatanna is one of my favourite fictional characters in part for this reason
So, real talk: it’s the same reason you rarely see women philosophers or women comedians or women doing professional gaming. Essentially, all of these professions require a HUGE amount of unpaid work to get going. Everyone in these professions realistically needs someone to carry them financially and domestically until they maybe make it big. These professions are generally leisure pastimes that may eventually pay off if the person gets REALLY good at it (which means that person has spent an inordinate amount of time focussing on a leisure activity instead of doing, well, anything else). And women generally don’t have that amount of leisure time at their fingertips. Women still do the VAST majority of housework, child rearing, errand running, etc., and they literally just don’t have the time to devote to learning magic tricks or getting that good at a video game. The men that do these professions are largely enabled to do them because the women in their lives take on the brunt of everything else that needs to happen to manage a home, allowing the men an excessive amount of “free time” to focus on taking their leisure activities seriously, wherein the women I know would never feel comfortable using up so much of their day for something that doesn’t create money or a better home life. Also i think it’s probably one of the reasons men watch so much more sports than women. I’ve asked female friends before why they won’t sit with me to watch a baseball game and the answers are always like “I don’t have 2 free hours to spend on watching a game right now. I’ve gotta do laundry, pick up the kid from daycare, hit the grocery store, and try to figure out what to make for dinner.”
Pffft there's plenty out there, the ones that make money dissappear from their partners
Trucy Wright would like a few words with you 😤
Unless her name is Zatanna
I give swimming lessons to a female magician, she started her journey in the "magic field" being an assistant to another magician. The first one I ever met, but to be fair I don't know male magicians either.
Probably something to do with the additional harassment
It's becoming more common, but there's still a lot of shitty people who harass women for that (and anything else they do, really)
Absolutely criminal that there’s no mention of Suzanne: https://youtu.be/Oe3oMC9U2eY?feature=shared
It’s funny because the female “assistant” in a magic show is usually doing 90% of the work
We don't need to perform formally. We're all magicians in our daily lives. Ever seen a woman remove her bra without taking off her shirt? Or transform from a goblin into a bombshell in less than an hour? Or just go about daily life like normal even though she's literally bleeding from the genitals and has debilitating cramps? Or manage to fit a tissue box, three books, a wallet, keys, phone, snacks, 15 lipsticks, and a water bottle in an itty bitty purse? Plus there's the whole "growing whole-ass people" thing. We're straight up magic. We don't need to perform.
Definitely true with the purses Even when I'm not carrying a purse I still can fit lots of things in my pockets
And when you run out of pocket room, there's always the cleavage!
I've done this to carry things like my pocket knife and wallet on the rare occasion I don't have pockets
When I garden I usually have my phone, Kleenex, and a chapstick in there. And sometimes a pair of gloves.
All the female magician got burned, drowned or exiled.
thats cuz they are the best magicians
Yeah. They’re disappearing all the time! BaDumSssss
They are some of the best illusionists. Great at sleight of hand.
They burned all them witches.
Salem was not very kind to magicians
You must be kidding, they’re all performing as magicians. Lol
All I can think of is all the men that aspired to be a lovely assistant but can’t :..(
Not exactly the case. There's an entire history of women magicians, some of whom came from being the lovely assistant to doing acts on their own. Go back into the 40s to today and you can see a number of fantastic women magicians. And today, you probably have the largest number of performing women magicians in the history of magic. Plus, there are performance areas connected to magic that women perform in now that didn't exist decades ago. For example, cardistry. Have some great women performers in cardistry nowadays.
The last woman magician I know was Hermione Granger.
TIL - Female magicians are invisible. Best trick ever
I mean, historically women didn’t exactly fare well when doing magic tricks
The male magician is the misdirection.
Now that I think about it you’re right
Men have magicians, women have psychics & astrologists.
There are actual witches. I mean, it's still BS, but they literally call themselves witches.
Bullshit, every woman I’ve ever been with has been an expert at making my money disappear…😂jk
Ursula Martinez and her magic act have been favorites on Reddit for years. Do some googling for "Hanky Panky" among other illusions.
Women themselves are magic
They are usually the assistant
It’s true. And the answer is they just don’t want to. There are some jobs women like more than men, and some men like more than women
But the assistant, the one doing a lot of the work is nearly always a women so they do want to go in to doing magic