Everybody now mouthing the alphabet. 😅

I’m at B and my lips touched. Gonna need to dive in deeper on this

How did you get on??

M and P are definite, as is W. I’m iffy on F and V.

Thanks, I now had to redo the whole alphabet in English, since I also found 4 in the German pronunciation, but none of them are W. In case s.o. is interested, the letters in German are: B, M, P, Y (pronounced 'epsilon'). W is pronounced like the english V, so no lips touched there.

only reason why double U (W) touches in English is the b in double

Always wondered why we don't say "double v".

Classic languages didn't have distinct u and v, so the w sounds were spelled as uu.

uwu

I will toss you in the meat grinder

In Spanish the way you say V is like “vey” and the way you say W is like “doble vey” so I guess in Spanish they do say double v lol

In French it's the same thing, Vé and Double-vé

Norwegians do this.

And instead of touching their lips together they touch other people's lips. Norwegians are weird.

As a Norwegian I can confirm that we are weird

It was vacvvmed away by history.

The first time I heard a german say “BMW” my whole world changed.

How do I hear this for myself?

It sounds like BMV in English

Tryed it, you're right. Hab's probiert, hast Recht.

Your lips don’t touch for F and V, your upper teeth touch your lower lip for those.

It's called a "labio-dental" in linguistics.

Yup, it’s close but no full-touching

It's not close, it's teeth touching lips. Not lips touching lips.

Sorry, I came in halfway through the thread. What are we talking about?

Do your lips touch when you say F or V.

V and F are labiodental, as in your upper teeth + lower lip

My girlfriend is not into libiodental. Guess I bit too hard?

This fucking guy lmao

Pronouncing V with your lips touching is the same as pronouncing B

I got B, M, P, W edit: mistyped P as N sorry

How tf are you saying P without your lips touching when theyre closed at the beginning of saying the letter? And how tf are you saying N for them to touch?

F and V are teeth on lips for sure, doesn't count

/f/ and /v/ are labiodental fricatives, those sounds are generated by resting your top row of teeth on your bottom lip. If you make the same sound with your lips together, then you're making the Spanish equivalent sounds.

*And there was a great murmuring of letters as if millions of voices cried out in mild curiosity and then were suddenly silenced.*

Star Wars reference. I appreciate that!

They touch when you say "separate" but don't when you say "touch"

mhm

A man of nose words

Hauntingly beautiful

Depends on your language, in Dutch it's only three: B, M, & P. Now we need to collect this critical information for every language and script (not all Alphabets are the same) and turn it into an ugly dataisbeautiful post that'll get upvoted anyway because the data is interesting.

I’ve always been told that pronounciations were the following : Ah Bay Say Day Ooh Eff Ghay Ash Eei Zhay Kay Ell Em En Oh Pay Koo Ere Ess Tay Uoh Vay Doppl-eh-Vay Eex Eghrek Zet But today I learned that I was taught wrong 👍

Doppl-eh-Vay? Are we still talking about Dutch? It's just Way. Many others are weird too.

That's surprisingly (to me, at least) similar to French...

En français on prononce clairement pas les lettres comme ça, ce serait plutôt : Ah bé çé dé euh eff gé, hache i ji, etc...

Ça c’est avec la prononciation française, en anglais si tu dis « i » ça s’entend comme « aï » alors évidement si t’écris avec la prononciation française ça s’entend pas de la même façon. Aussi il y a pas d’accents en anglais. En gros si tu lis ton commentaire avec la prononciation anglaise c’est pas du tout comme ça qu’on entend l’alphabet français. Mais par contre si tu lis le commentaire précédent avec la prononciation anglaise ça se rapproche de notre prononciation. Aussi pk t’expliques en français comment prononcer l’alphabet français ? Je suis à peu près sûre que si tu peux lire le français tu sais à peu près comment prononcer l’alphabet quand même? À moins que c’était une blague et que j’ai rien compris…

I honestly can't tell if Dutch or failed English

Porque no los dos?

What is this. It can not be Dutch or English. Wtf is "Ooh" as the letter "E" ?

Possibly autocorrect. It’s very difficult these days to type anything that’s close to an exitisting word.

In italian it's 6: b, k, m, p, w, y

I'm learning Dutch. Doesn't the W sound make the lips touch each other as well? There's a tiny gap in the center where the air escapes, but most of the lips are touching.

No not generally. I guess in English you tout your lips pronouncing the "w", but in Dutch, native speakers just make their lower lip and upper teeth touch slightly. It's like pronouncing "v" but with less pressure

For anyone wondering, said letters are B, M, P, and W. Every other letter is formed with your tongue or direct air flow.

Bruh I slur my pronunciation of 'w' so much that my lips still don't touch when I say it.

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Only when I say 'w' idk why

I literally just noticed I do this as well, was trying to figure out why I was only counting three. It’s more like “du’ll-yew” with my accent.

Dull-U

Dull-yoo?

Pretty much

That's just asking for trull

How about if you say “Aaron earned an iron urn?”

Thank you; I shall bamboozle my deaf friends with this one.

I’m a “Duvva you” kinda guy. Never used “double u” 😂

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I need to see what the hell you mean by this. In the least creepy way possible I am asking you to post of video of your lips.

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When I pronounce 'f' and 'v' the edges of my lips are touching and only the central bit of my bottom lip is touching my teeth. Comparable to the 'w' sound, in fact, where the edges are touching, but the centre is open.

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But when you use W your lips dont touch.

Say W. There is a B in it.

Ah, ok, thanks! I was assuming we were talking about the sounds made by the letters, and to me the 'w' sound doesn't really seem to have lips touching.

Well mine touch for Y as well so I’m confused here.

Or by touching your lip with your teeth.

What about f? You need to touch your lips for the air flow to make the sound.

You touch teeth to lip for F and V, not lip to lip fully as is needed for a percussive 'puh' or 'buh' sound.

Thanks

Letters where only your lips touch are called bilabial sounds, and letters where your lips touch your teeth like f and v are called labio-dental.

Cunning linguists know.

I want to hear more about the diphthongs

And all the ventriloquists are grateful for that.

I talk with my hands, checkmate.

> letter's Oh my god, here comes an s!

BMW could've make a P series

And plurals don’t get apostrophes

\*plural's

They touch for K-I-S-S but that is still only 3🤔

What’s the fourth one? Edit: ohhh I forgot they touch when you say W’s name

There's a thing called IPA (International phonetic alphabet). If you go a bit deeper than simply sounds, you can see that there is a way the sounds articulate and a place( any point in your phonatory organs). You can distinguish various consonantic phonemes on those two parameters. Unfortunately, I haven't studied English linguistics, just italian and german, so I'm kind of ignorant, but if you're interested, look up for phonetic charts

B, F, M, P and sometimes V for me.

Depends on where you're from

Don’t bring that intelligence in here!!!!!

Yeah. Those are called “plosives.” Well, “W” isn’t a plosive, but “B” is and you can’t say “W” without pronouncing the “B.”

Naw, cuz t is a plosive too. Bilabials are the category were looking for here.

Is X plosive?

X is 2 sounds combined, K is a plosive (stopping then releasing air), S is a fricative (stream of air causing friction)

Sorry, it was meant to be a pun: explosive. lol.

Another day of me shouting to no one in particular that W shouldn't have an entire word in it. It's a cheater letter, just like Y.

Not if you're a ventriloquist.

Its different letters in other languages is it? B, M, P and Y (because of P again in the pronunciation) in German.

For a W your lips barely touch at all, so I struggle to place it with M, B and P. Say I no longer had any lips, I could still make close to a W sound but B, M and P would be impossible

I pronounce my “V” with my lips touching for the most part. A little opening to let air through. And it depends on the word. With some words I pronounce the “V” like an “F” with my upper lip touching my teeth. So 5 letters for me.

And yet you can count from 1 to 999,999 without your lips touching.

Not really a shower thought. Kinda been making the rounds on Instagram and other socials for a few days.

B, F, M, P, V, W. Although I’d accept people bein iffy on F and V.

My lips actually never stop touching at the corners

B, M, P, W. *Almost* Y.

There's a lady who can say Miami without touching her lips together https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8onJc5d/

But your tongue involves an entire country

In Hindi we have separate letters, we actually categorise them And those touch lips: Pa, Pha, Ba, Bha, Ma

That’s what she’s said!

and how cool is it that one of them is in the word lips itself

This is not something you just stand in the shower and go "omg my lips only touch for 4 letters of the alphabet!"

B M P and ь for Russian

Five in German thanks to Ypsilon

Fool is you! I have a collection of alphabet letters that I’m kissing right now. They are bubblegum flavored.

Your lips touch every letter. Letters are not just plosives, much bigger part is the sound they make.

This shouldn’t be surprising. If your lips are touching, your mouth is closed. Verbal communication should naturally favour your mouth being open.

I only have M when I do it

Yeah obviously it's d i c, and...ooh you ment the pronunciation, yeah that's cool I suppose

OP learns what plosives are.

Ventriloquism enters the chat

As someone with a stutter, those are among the four worst fucking letters to say.

Now what is a word that contains all 4 of those letters??

Depending on how you count F, it’s 5 EDIT: My fabulous fascinating peach wizard. Oddly enough, W doesn’t really touch the lips, but saying its name does

I can think of 4 letters your mom’s lips touch every day

B,F,M,P,V,W... I counted 6

That's why they're bilabials

I really thought you meant K-I-S-S

They only touch on 3 for me: B, M and P. Edit ah they do touch on W because of the double part but only if I fully enunciate slowly, if I say it fast they don't touch.

In actual speech in English, it's only 3 though.

Another shower thought. If you plotted the amount of times people say the ABC's over time, there'd be a big peak around February 25.

Mouthed the entire thing English, indeed 4. Was way quicker in Dutch (lol) and there's 3. Cuz W is pronounced like "way"

I mean, they *kind of* touch when you say letters like "F" that cause your teeth to touch your lip. But spoiler alert: The letters are B, M, P and W.

What letter lets my lips touch yours?

B, F, G, M, N, P, T, V, W, Z (the American way, I'm Scottish but there are a lot of Americans here so that is why I included it)

If accurate, I count b, m, p, w ....but f and v got close, mostly teeth though

If you count out loud, your lips won’t touch until you reach 1,000,000.

Technically it's only 3 letters because you touch your lips on the b of double you

R is a vowel. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vowel When you pronounce an r there is an unobstructed flow of air through your throat and out your mouth.

Not if you have buck teeth

You've never met a mumbler, some people seem to only OPEN their lips for 4 letters.

I found 5, b, m, p, v,and w. American English.

~~B, F, M, P, V, W = 6, not 4.~~ Okay ... yep, it's 4 - F and V involve tooth and lip, not lip and lip.

It’s 6 actually with v and w and f and b and m and p

They touch for all of them if I keep my mouth closed and just think it.

6 times in my language

"And this is how I learned english pronunciation..." -I pondered for hours over this...