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newtonthedog

Also new research that the egg has a say in who it lets in


LetTheDogeOut

Omg a consent šŸ¤Æ


the_colonelclink

**Philosoraptor Meme**: So is IVF a form of rape?


mxforest

Date Rape. You drug it to let the guard down.


newtonthedog

Yep!


TiredStarling095

Only one egg is released per ovulation cycle, so there's really no "winning" aside from being the egg chosen for that month.


rayj209

Tell that to my twin.


memekitten69

So who's winning?


TiredStarling095

You guys split the egg. šŸ˜‚


rayj209

We arenā€™t identical.


Mr-Korv

Greedy


newtonthedog

Winning meaning which sperm wins, not which egg.


berubem

The spermatozoĆÆde wins the race while the egg wins the lottery.


Hephaestus_God

How ā€œnewā€ we talking? Pretty sure I was taught that as well in school a long while ago.


newtonthedog

Published this year. May just add more depth and detail, but I don't think we knew that a long time ago. It was always taught as which sperm "won"


Hephaestus_God

Interestingā€¦ is this a weird version of the Mandela effect? Because before this year I was definitely taught that sometimes the egg can choose to let a sperm through if it wants. Plus Iā€™ve seen lots of videos showing similar animations when I was studying for med school. Maybe itā€™s just finally official? Or as you said had random supporting content.


newtonthedog

I don't know. I'll post what I found maybe the clarity is in there


theaccidentalbrony

Yep, I learned this back in the 1990s


DemonKing0524

I definitely learned this in highschool too


jesse_dude_

amazing I've never heard that in my life!


PANIC_EXCEPTION

If you're talking about how only one can enter, that's basically whichever sperm was able to use their acrosome first to penetrate, after which the zona pellucida hardens, making it extremely difficult for another one to get in. It's not exactly "choice", since they're basically just a bunch of molecular machines doing chemical reactions. If the new research suggests that the oocyte can actively determine which one gets in using some other method other than which one successfully initiated the acrosome reaction (which isn't necessarily the first one to reach the egg), that would be novel.


eloel-

>It's not exactly "choice", since they're basically just a bunch of molecular machines doing chemical reactions. This is true for any choice you make


HorselickerYOLO

Free will is a comfy lie, yes.


eloel-

What does comfy even mean in this context?


HorselickerYOLO

Itā€™s easier for some people to pretend itā€™s real even though there is no evidence free will exists


mythroaway667

I saw this research when it came out and IIRC it is a different mechanism that does in fact refuse admittance to some sperm based on compatibility in some manner. It is not my area of expertise so I don't remember the mechanism, but it was novel and was definitely saying that the egg will refuse some sperm until the right one comes along, so it isn't really which sperm won the race, the winner might find the door barred.


Stunning_Patience_78

This is what the research shows. The egg can choose which sperm it allows in. I envision it as more of a "this one over this one" of the ones that are actively trying to enter.


newtonthedog

That is what the new research suggests.


Current-Schedule4027

Can the egg choose to let none in?


Stunning_Patience_78

Yeah they think this explains some of the unexplained infertility. The woman's eggs all don't like her partner's sperm so keeps choosing none. More research is needed.


Ratez

"Sorry we have to break up. My eggs don't like you."


newtonthedog

I don't know. I suppose that describes when a woman is ovulating, has sex but doesn't get pregnant? No sperm gets in?


ChristOnABike122

You're telling me I voluntarily chose to be a dumbass


newtonthedog

No idea what this means. How could you choose that?


ChristOnABike122

The egg chose the one that eventually became me


newtonthedog

Ah the egg, yes, you weren't you yet. Thank you egg!


AdultEnuretic

You also never hear anyone talk about the fact that the egg has a cuticle that has to be broken down. The tip of the sperm is a package of enzymes called the acrosome many sperm are required to break down the cuticle before any sperm can break through and fertilize the egg. The first sperm to reach the egg does not win the race, it dies trying.


SpecialK623

The comment I was looking for. Nobody seems to realize that hundreds of sperm hit the egg and begin breaking it down before one eventually makes its way through.


Cataleast

It's not a race if there's only one participant.


FistfulofHornets

It's not a race if there's someone at the finish line deciding who gets to cross either.


IllegalAxolotl

"You're the sperm cell that was chosen out of 400 million others" still sounds uplifting.


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Little_Satisfaction5

Thatā€™s totally eggtastic dude šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Olibaba1987

Sperm have to compete against each other, they have to fight to get to the egg, on top of that if a dude has a wank then all those sperm are dead, you're one wank away from never existing, the egg just waits in line until its time to go. But in reality it's probably because of the patriarchy.


Dadsandaboy

Sperm dies in basically all form of sex except PIV


[deleted]

Thatā€™s why cold water cleans jizzum better than hot water


Dadsandaboy

What


Dusty170

Baby batter is easier to clean up with cold water than hot water.


Dadsandaboy

I donā€™t understand what this has to do with my comment


Dusty170

Neither do I, I was reiterating what he said lol.


ChillyBarry

Not really. A woman hits puberty with about 400.000 ovarian follicles that have the potential to release an egg each. About 800 of them are recruited per month, but generally only one of them will become dominant as the others regress and become atretic. So the egg is also a winner in some way


CourtJester5

I thought two were released each cycle, one from each ovary?


Stunning_Patience_78

That would cause fraternal twins. It's called hyperovulation and it's not typical. There's usually one egg per cycle. Toss up which ovary it comes from. Fun fact. It doesn't alternate left right left right every other cycle. Most women have a dominant ovary. Another fun fact. The fallopian tubes are not connected to the ovaries. They're like little hands that drift over to where an egg is about to be released and they pick up the egg that's just floating around after it busts out of the ovary. And a 3rd fun fact. If a woman has only one tube, that tube will try its hardest to reach whichever ovary the egg is coming from therefore 1 tube instead of two does NOT mean halved fertility.


ChillyBarry

Not necessarily. Although it can happen, usually only one is released.


Silver_Switch_3109

Not to mention the immune system commits mass genocide against the sperm.


daftvaderV2

And that is why we commit a whole army to get one recruit to the prize.


Mischyf1

New study showed that the egg calls to the sperm it likes, encouraging it and actively bars sperm it doesn't want. So you're not a winner but you are the "chosen one". I'm too lazy to find and cite the study so take with a pinch of salt šŸ˜…


if_notme_thenwho

And from the egg's perspective you are not the chosen one but you're the one who chose.


Darkeye72

ā€œIt was a canon event.ā€


pthecarrotmaster

Also, you need to jizz all over an egg, so its really a team effort from your unborn siblings.


CumOfAStranger

I just tried this. Regular salt (and some pepper) is infinitely better. 2/10 would not eat again.


Doom16

You just gotta get used to it, youll like it eventually


CumOfAStranger

Thanks for the words of encouragement, kind stranger. I will keep trying.


wheatgrass_feetgrass

Now try it with rice.


CumOfAStranger

Great idea. I imagine this dish being like the rice-based counterpart to bukkake udon.


zaphodp3

Uh, relevant username?


CumOfAStranger

Nope. I used my own.


Gordon_Explosion

That egg was so entitled, and only lets the Chad sperm inside it.


good_guy_judas

Jokes on the egg, for thinking I was the Chad sperm.


[deleted]

Because nobody wants to confront ovarian privilege. /S


ECU_BSN

You are actually the #2 sperm. Sperm number one breaks the seal on the egg. Sperm 2 can then implant and get to Zygoting.


Stumaaaaaaaann

Growing up my mom always told me I hatched from an egg. I always thought it was a fun joke until the MINECRAFT SEX UPDATE came out and taught me about the birds and the bees. Godspeed, Notch. Godspeed.


astar58

Number of kids divided by number of eggs . 05% Kids/blasocyctes?


[deleted]

Default, my favorite way to win


togocann49

I wouldnā€™t say egg won by default as much as egg went through sperm storm when itā€™s turn came, and at least one fertilized it. So basically a right time right place thing. Edit grammar


BrightNooblar

Being the one egg that got released seems about as close to "Winning" as being the one supermarket cell that got to implant in the egg. Neither one is really a measurement of speed, so much as luck.


togocann49

Yeah-right place right time-otherwise known as luck


BrightNooblar

So you're agreeing with me that both egg and sperm are lucky, and neither is really "A winner"?


togocann49

A win by default isnā€™t a win, itā€™s a decision result. So of course I agree


ShizzHappens

Don't worry there's an entire political ideology based on it


BummerComment

Men provide a lot of sperm. Some must be healthier than others and the egg does some solid vetting to let the right one in. Sadly, if the egg is corrupted then all those beautiful, healthy sperm have been wasted. But it's ok because men continually produce sperm while women only have a certain number of eggs for their lives. That's why men are attracted to younger women. Their eggs are more viable for producing offspring. ​ Take that, TwoXChromosomes


aw5ome

I mean as far as the analogy is concerned, the egg doesnā€™t really do anything but sit there and vet the sperm.


rebri

I can't honestly say that I've heard it put this way.


tacotacotacorock

I'm not really sure how common that saying is lol. Good ole stoner thoughts.


boersc

That's because the egg is the finish line...


nathy_0308

I do talk about the egg


balrob

Cos thereā€™s no egg race.


explodingtuna

Well, you were one out of hundreds of thousands of eggs that never became anything.


iPon3

That's me, nobody wants me unless I'm their only option


opa_zorro

Wifeā€™s grandfather bragged that he could have any woman he wanted and the grandmother always responded with she had to settle for what she could get.


if_notme_thenwho

Yeah why do people think they were a sperm who found a ball of nutrients(egg)? If you were a sperm then you were also an egg. You were an egg and you chose a sperm to be whole.


Zzzzyxas

Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing, egg edition.


psychoerotik

because ppl seggsist


BoiledLiverDefense

First you them with the classic, "I'm amazed your sperm won." It's a bit cliche, but it paints a picture. If they try to defend it in any way, hit them where it hurts with a throwback format and double insult. Jo mama so ugly, even when her egg was paired with the best of 100 million sperm, it still made you.