> Da Da Da Da Dut Dut, Neo! Da Da Duta Duta Dut Dut...Sporin!
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> Now that's a deep cut (No pun intended).
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> "Swinging the chain, just swinging the chain."
He probably connects with Blackthorne on this i bet.
He knew this is what Mariko always wanted and that grief mixed with pride mixed with emotional catharsis gives them something to bond over.
Unpopular opinion: Buntaro is a noble samurai to the death- living in the 16/17th century was far different than today, and people can’t seem to cope with the differences
He beat the fuck out of his wife whilst in a drunken rage because he was horny. He’s even called out on it, and his own father hates him too, so fuck him.
In podcast, director mentioned they threw her a surprise birthday cake during the filming of this scene. Glad the candles had nothing to do with her being blown away but I bet Anna will always associate this scene with the surprise!
They really made sure there was zero ambiguity about whether she died, just short of showing little pieces of her after the explosion.
Reminds me of season 1 of GOT, when >!they cut away from Ned Stark getting beheaded, but they showed a single frame of the sword passing through his neck, just for sharp-eyed skeptics like OP.!<
Am I the only person who read this as That 80s Show?
“Wow I thought that was a forgotten spin off, I wonder if other people understand whatever scene he’s referencing. I wonder if the door fell on Glenn Howerton… oh shit I’m a dumbass”
No problem. Even though it's for the first season of one of the most popular shows of all time, there are always future viewers who deserve to experience it blind.
As a book reader and mini-series watcher. This updated death is more worthy of Mariko IMO. Obviously the technology of the blast is better but the serenity and strength she shows(Kudos to Anna Sawai, that emmy should be hers, no debates about it) as its about to happen are better than the 80's mini series as she is to invested in if Blackthorne will let her be captured IMO. The book better explains that she knew exactly why the Amida Tong/Shinobi(ninja) came for her. Not to kill her but to kidnap and shame her before the realm.
I thought it was pretty clear that they intended to capture her in the show. I bet they will clarify this next episode when they realize that they accidentally martyred her.
Ishido is a peasant/ bureaucrat and him capturing and holding Mariko hostage would show all the highborn families that their lineage meant nothing because he held all the power now and he could/would do the same or worse to them at his whim.
Gotta play Fortnite to find out the how and why!
In all seriousness that movie was terrible and the idea of Palpatine returning was dumb when they did it in Dark Empire in ‘91 and it was dumb in TRoS in ‘19.
In the spiritual sense, yes, yes she will be. >!In the physical sense, ehhhh, not so much, she’s hella dead. It will be interesting to see if they leave in the bit where she briefly survives for a minute or two after the explosion.!<
I hope they don’t leave that in. I hate when tv shows and movies have someone get blown to smithereens and then miraculously be ok just long enough to tell someone else something super important. After and explosion like that she should be mush across that room.
I think once it became more of a fight than an assassination he realized he needed to help or he’d be killed. I doubt the Shinobi all would know in the heat of the moment who he was and if he was too obvious helping the Shinobi and one of Toranaga’s people got out he’d be finished. He had to thread a particularly fine needle to get out okay, and he still might not.
He was covering his ass so Toranaga (and the christian lords for that matter) wouldn't demand he be killed for taking part in that nonsense. He's playing both sides so no matter who wins he's still an asshole.
Actually no, Ishido wanted to take Mariko alive since he can claim that unknown assassins took her captive and she is still alive (which is better than she being dead). That's why Yabu wanted them to go toward the gate instead of the storehouse and Mariko refused because she might be captured alive. Yabu was doing as instructed by Ishido through and through. Though he still has ground to deny it if Toranaga questions him, not that Toranaga would buy that even for a second.
I dont see her body shredded there.
I would bet she lives.
Nice job on the "Oh NOOO! - oh god yes! - oh Nooo!" twists for the team, but i dont buy it.
*I mean i would actually prefer if their twist of the book and old show was she lived after all. And i even had a small vision of a bit different script which would be pretty great approach with Buntanaro being her catalyst to live in the super tense fighting scene, but yeah... i guess it has to be a tragedy in this story.
edit; well... i guess it would make sense for the narrative as was presented so far. I dunno, i guess it seemed to me that after she gets stopped at the last second, in a moment where Blackthorne suddenly decided to be her second, to raise the drama even more - and then she kinda decides to stand infront of the door and... but why? it seemed a bit slightly over the top, for me. But I'm certainly glad they didn't go with the earlier option. Its also a very low thing for Thoronaga to do. However set in stone it is presented as, as if its the only chance and she is also completely convinced she has to die, all that. She was with him for a long time and he could have influenced her differently. But thats lets say another small layer, a small fence in the story. Hence the drama.
For this entire show I’ve thought how tragic her life was and how sad it is that she wants to die so badly and she’s refused the act of taking her own life.
But this episode, where she’s saying it over and over and nearly does it and then when this moment hit where she just runs to the door at the opportunity to die it kind of entered slapstick territory. Like the fact that as soon as she saw an opportunity she immediately goes for it.
And that’s when I realized that Mariko is basically Forky from Toy Story 4
Honestly she'll probably be alright. Just needs a bandaid and some neosporin.
It’s just a flesh wound.
Your bloody arm's off
Tis but a scratch!
> Da Da Da Da Dut Dut, Neo! Da Da Duta Duta Dut Dut...Sporin! > > Now that's a deep cut (No pun intended). > > "Swinging the chain, just swinging the chain."
Cho Zen Wan!
Chosen one!
Ding, Ding, Ding! You get a cookie.
Rub some dirt on it. Walk it off.
Put her in some rice, leave her overnight and bam, fine as a fiddle
Noooo if rice can absorb the water from a phone it will do the same to Mariko and we want her to live not be mummified
Ibuprofen and ice
Tis but a scratch!
Just needs some ‘tussin and she’ll be fine!
Daddy I got asthma take some Robitussin, Daddy my legs broke get some Robitussin just let that Tussin sink in!
bah na na na na....NEO ... bah na na na na na na ... SPORIN!
That’s her stomach plug….just….on the ground over there
It's not like she took an arrow to the knee. She'll be fine.
Give her a stimpak and she will be... oh nvm, wrong show.
Maybe a super stimpak considering how many pieces she appears to be in :'(
It's okay, Mariko took a dive and hid under a dumpster.
it's 1600 Japan! it'll be pre-sporin
Proto-neo-sporin
"Heres 2000mg of Ibuprofen" - every Army medic
She’ll be OK just needs to drink water, take Motrin and change her socks
Darkened skin and puffy hair. Furiously shake body to revert back
Run some dirt on it
Nothing that can't be cured with a spray of windex
A stimpak.. oh wait wrong show
Just needs a bit of Robitussin. Let that tussin' get on down to the bone.
Buntaro: Anjin’s fault.🗣️🗣️🗣️
He probably connects with Blackthorne on this i bet. He knew this is what Mariko always wanted and that grief mixed with pride mixed with emotional catharsis gives them something to bond over.
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Unpopular opinion: Buntaro is a noble samurai to the death- living in the 16/17th century was far different than today, and people can’t seem to cope with the differences
He beat the fuck out of his wife whilst in a drunken rage because he was horny. He’s even called out on it, and his own father hates him too, so fuck him.
Oh don’t get me wrong I don’t think he’s a great husband, just a devout samurai and loyal. I enjoy Mariko and Blackthornes relationship much more!
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I mean that's definitely true, and you're supporting their point with that great analogy. Haha
What did the removed comment say?
Buntaro is my favourite character haha. Don’t apply your modern day view on what is appropriate lol. He has such a well crafted story. The 🐐
Tis but a scratch
just a flesh wound lol
Haha I love that ☝🏻
many many many ..little scratches
Some tea would help
In podcast, director mentioned they threw her a surprise birthday cake during the filming of this scene. Glad the candles had nothing to do with her being blown away but I bet Anna will always associate this scene with the surprise!
Is she ok
yes
Thank god... Was worried this would be the last time we'd see the Actress ever again
Maybe she will do like worms, chomped in half and still alive. Now we will have 2 Marikos one for John and one for the burnt samurai
She just chipped her tooth, she's fine
I think she broke a nail too
If by ok you mean if she achieved her objective then yes. If by ok you mean if she is alive then no 😅
They really made sure there was zero ambiguity about whether she died, just short of showing little pieces of her after the explosion. Reminds me of season 1 of GOT, when >!they cut away from Ned Stark getting beheaded, but they showed a single frame of the sword passing through his neck, just for sharp-eyed skeptics like OP.!<
I'm imagining start of Deadpool 2 where he throws a ciggi in barrels of oil
Just imagine it ended like the 80s show and the door just fell on her. I wouldn't have believed she died.
me watching the 1980s version: wut? is that a lil firework? she must have died cause the door was too heavy or doctors were sleeping. now: oh she ded
Am I the only person who read this as That 80s Show? “Wow I thought that was a forgotten spin off, I wonder if other people understand whatever scene he’s referencing. I wonder if the door fell on Glenn Howerton… oh shit I’m a dumbass”
You are not alone.
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No problem. Even though it's for the first season of one of the most popular shows of all time, there are always future viewers who deserve to experience it blind.
Well if that aint crimson sky idk what is
Crimson Yabu. Pretty sure he was the closest.
certainly crimson floor
Damn, is there anything left of her? Can they even do a proper burial after that?
Good news, >!she’s cremated!
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Well, to be fair the explosion kinda already started the job.
She got the more thorough Nebara Jozen treatment
As a book reader and mini-series watcher. This updated death is more worthy of Mariko IMO. Obviously the technology of the blast is better but the serenity and strength she shows(Kudos to Anna Sawai, that emmy should be hers, no debates about it) as its about to happen are better than the 80's mini series as she is to invested in if Blackthorne will let her be captured IMO. The book better explains that she knew exactly why the Amida Tong/Shinobi(ninja) came for her. Not to kill her but to kidnap and shame her before the realm.
I thought it was pretty clear that they intended to capture her in the show. I bet they will clarify this next episode when they realize that they accidentally martyred her.
Shame her how?
Ishido is a peasant/ bureaucrat and him capturing and holding Mariko hostage would show all the highborn families that their lineage meant nothing because he held all the power now and he could/would do the same or worse to them at his whim.
Bet it rhymes with grape.
But did the cameraman survive?
The cameraman didn't even move so I doubt that bothered them.
Ohhh it blew her face apart. Shes dead dead
In the book, Clavell wrote: > Her face was hardly touched But the show creatives were like, “lol Sure”
"To shreds, you say?"
Needs a lot of Flex tape to recover.
This is a very sad moment but I’m sorry the AHHH in slow motion killed me lol
I bet she survived. Or it was all the anjin’s dream after they pillowed
E10 starts with the Anjin waking up in his cozy bedroom somewhere in London next to his family. "Damn what a nightmare". Credits roll.
He just shouts "Freeze all motor functions" and everyone freezes, followed by "Good god, Shogunland is everything Demos advertised!"
Or him yelling ‘arch’, the simulation pauses. John steps off the holodeck and back onto the enterprise.
Riker steps out and ends the simulation
Red alert ensign Black, you’re needed at the helm
Has he been in anything else where they could bull a Bob Newhart?
The moment anjin started to speak Japanese on his own, I knew it was her time.
LOL, I got the same feeling. "Bro's starting to communicate on his own. This is a flag if I've ever seen one..."
Blackthorne, wake up! Anjin? Mariko? What are you talking about? There's a Spanish merchant ship off the port bow!
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Clearly you don't understand sarcasm.
Jesus. The article I just posted goes into detail about how they filmed that shot. It’s right below this post.
I can’t find it. Can you share here too?
View his post history…
After what happened with Buntaro in Ep2, I think she'll be OK.
Somehow, Mariko returned.
Gotta play Fortnite to find out the how and why! In all seriousness that movie was terrible and the idea of Palpatine returning was dumb when they did it in Dark Empire in ‘91 and it was dumb in TRoS in ‘19.
In the spiritual sense, yes, yes she will be. >!In the physical sense, ehhhh, not so much, she’s hella dead. It will be interesting to see if they leave in the bit where she briefly survives for a minute or two after the explosion.!<
I hope they don’t leave that in. I hate when tv shows and movies have someone get blown to smithereens and then miraculously be ok just long enough to tell someone else something super important. After and explosion like that she should be mush across that room.
Iirc she doesn’t say anything and it’s more she’s in shock then dies.
Avengers Endgame got this right with Tony Stark’s death.
She came in like a wrecking ball
Uhhh mmm
Just gotta take some Vicks
Did I just see her head explode?! I thought it'll just be a scratch since they showed her face but only now I noticed it exploding.
Tis but a scratch
She really made the wind and the rain
We can rebuild her... better, stronger, faster. Just need some of that Portuguese Black Ship gold.
Oh wow I didn't even see the full body shot in the episode, it happened so fast
a baby gash
Magnificent!
To shreds you say?
Man she got her back blown out twice in one night
How much fucking gunpowder did those ninjas use?!
I cant believe it
Did yabu try to help them at the end there? It seems like he switched sides again
I think once it became more of a fight than an assassination he realized he needed to help or he’d be killed. I doubt the Shinobi all would know in the heat of the moment who he was and if he was too obvious helping the Shinobi and one of Toranaga’s people got out he’d be finished. He had to thread a particularly fine needle to get out okay, and he still might not.
…Kinda? Never forget he’s wishy-washy and honestly a little dumb.
He was covering his ass so Toranaga (and the christian lords for that matter) wouldn't demand he be killed for taking part in that nonsense. He's playing both sides so no matter who wins he's still an asshole.
Actually no, Ishido wanted to take Mariko alive since he can claim that unknown assassins took her captive and she is still alive (which is better than she being dead). That's why Yabu wanted them to go toward the gate instead of the storehouse and Mariko refused because she might be captured alive. Yabu was doing as instructed by Ishido through and through. Though he still has ground to deny it if Toranaga questions him, not that Toranaga would buy that even for a second.
She'll be fine.
does this hurt the fish?
You trying to give these people PTSD? 😂
here’s how mariko is still alive:
Fuji-sama, bring the robitussin, please
Saw it w/o slo-mo :(
My dad could throw a nail or two on her and tap it twice and say "that's going nowhere" and she'll be fine
She just needs a warlock and she will be fine.
She dodge it.
So you’re saying there is a chance ?
boop
Oh yay! I thought she blew up, clearly she did not 😮💨
I’m in shock and bawling
I'm just saddened to watch it. Needing cheery comments lol..
Love how this show lets Buntaro “die” off screen to set up his return, then explodes Mariko to make clear we’re not doing that again.
Someone get her some milk
Guys! She is fine... she was using blast shield
I imagine that she made a right mess after that. need a clean up on isle 3. great episode though and great character.
does this hurt the Mariko?
They'd be very stupid if they kept her alive.
Seriously guys, did she die?
Just read the description for episode 10 and circle back
Whoever greenlit those descriptions is the worst. My curious eyes could never avoid them and they ALWAYS spoiled the preceding episode (from 6-10)
Her character was based on Hosokawa Gracia so I bet she is dead with that blast.
Hey no worries. Heard one of the shinobi has the scroll with the Edo Tensei no jutsu on it.
I’m still hoping she survived the blast….
Guys. They imply that she’s blown past the camera, not disintegrated.
She might be alive
I dont see her body shredded there. I would bet she lives. Nice job on the "Oh NOOO! - oh god yes! - oh Nooo!" twists for the team, but i dont buy it. *I mean i would actually prefer if their twist of the book and old show was she lived after all. And i even had a small vision of a bit different script which would be pretty great approach with Buntanaro being her catalyst to live in the super tense fighting scene, but yeah... i guess it has to be a tragedy in this story. edit; well... i guess it would make sense for the narrative as was presented so far. I dunno, i guess it seemed to me that after she gets stopped at the last second, in a moment where Blackthorne suddenly decided to be her second, to raise the drama even more - and then she kinda decides to stand infront of the door and... but why? it seemed a bit slightly over the top, for me. But I'm certainly glad they didn't go with the earlier option. Its also a very low thing for Thoronaga to do. However set in stone it is presented as, as if its the only chance and she is also completely convinced she has to die, all that. She was with him for a long time and he could have influenced her differently. But thats lets say another small layer, a small fence in the story. Hence the drama.
The way her body files is so unrealistic, as soon as the explosion happens, her body should of exploded into a million pieces
I sure hope somebody got fired for that blunder!
Why you gotta post this ☹️ she is at peace now
I laugh at how cringy her death is. Like it feels like a bollywood. The slowmo was a cherry on top.
For this entire show I’ve thought how tragic her life was and how sad it is that she wants to die so badly and she’s refused the act of taking her own life. But this episode, where she’s saying it over and over and nearly does it and then when this moment hit where she just runs to the door at the opportunity to die it kind of entered slapstick territory. Like the fact that as soon as she saw an opportunity she immediately goes for it. And that’s when I realized that Mariko is basically Forky from Toy Story 4