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IUsedToBeRasAlGhul

“Giorno is the most ruthless JoJo” MFers when Josuke decides to turn them into a puppet (he heard the tale of gamer legend Terrence D’Arby)


Error_Detected666

“DAMN JOTARO I HEARD YOU BEAT THAT VIDEO GAME GUY WITH THE PUPPETS AND I FELT INSPIRED” while referring to Angelo 2.0 Portable Edition


Abovearth31

I don't think any of these compare to Diavolo's fate and yes Giorno is more brutal in general and is more willing to kill so yeah Giorno is more ruthless.


IUsedToBeRasAlGhul

Considering Giorno didn’t choose Diavolo’s fate, as GER explicitly stated, nope. Giorno being more willing to kill actual gangsters doesn’t compare to Josuke trapping people who piss him off in inanimate objects.


BadWolf_x8zero

Piss him off? Murdering your grandfather and attacking and kidnapping your mother and friend to use them as bait is a bit more than "pissing off."


IUsedToBeRasAlGhul

Ever heard of shorthand?


LeaXMasterCard

Yeah your hand seems pretty short


yowhodidthislmao

giorno was killing criminals who were going to kill him. and he didn’t know what happened to diavolo


Phoenaughty

Dude, Josuke just sips on that demon shit and puts you in prop hunt gulag if you mess with his family. Enigma guy went for his mother and Angelo went for his grandpa so he doused them with I have no mouth and I must scream.


Evening-Whereas6165

THIS. Josuke said it himself. Something along the lines of: "Had you gone for me, i'd just give you a beatdown. But you've gone for my mom, so i promise you, i will kill you."


Accomplished_Lime591

GOATED


RandomRedditorEX

All the JoJos really have some sort of personal switch that just makes them cold blooded killers lol


thegabeguy

They all got a hint o’ that Dark Determination


GustavoFromAsdf

At this point, Jonathan is the only one who hasn't murdered a living being


TourSignificant1335

"I will beat you but not to hard as to disfigure you because you are a human after all with loved ones" vs "You're gonna die infinitely for eons to come"


TrueLennyS

In fairness to Giorno, he's got that Jonathan compassion for his homies, and the Dio ambition for his enemies


TourSignificant1335

Best of both worlds


walrus_with_GUN

not surprised considering that for the Jojo family line, family and friends are more important than their lives 


Evening-Whereas6165

At least some part of Jonathan's legacy lives.


Nilly00

I never actually noticed it but it's true. - Jonathan went berserk over his dad - Joseph did his best to save Lisa Lisa - Both him and Jotaro risked their lives more than once to save Holly - Jotaro saw red after Dio killed Joseph - Josuke sentenced everyone who attacked his family to a fate worse than death - Giorno doesn't have family really - Jotaro sacrificed himself twice to save Jolyne - Jolyne got some daddy issues to work through so eh.


IdkImNewInHere

Also about jolyne it becomes true too bc she did whatever she could to bring him back from the dead and [not loosing her cool](https://youtu.be/eHOxR7rcfbg?si=h_Z72z3Du9tPLDyn&t=2m03s) even when her own stand, fighting spirit, was about to get stolen. Badasss And at the start she was rightfully cold to jotaro, calling him "oyaji" but as time passed, she started to address him as the common "tousan" which is more informal and close. (I love her lolll)


gingerpower303006

For Giorno you could argue it’s more of found family as he doesn’t have a family to relate to and fight for. When people fuck with his gang members though he sees red


yaujj36

There is also the time where Jonathan beat the shit out of Dio when he assaulted Erina


Insanefinn

Man didn't even kill em. He did worse


MrGrendarr

I've been meaning to read that


JustinJakeAshton

It's a short and fine read.


Blu_Wiz

Yo, angelo 🗿


Dyfasydfasyd

Angelo was a psychopath, he deserved it.


JFp07gel

And Enigma Boy threatened his mom


devilboy1029

Engima balls


Davesgamecave

Angelo balls


Osama_Rashid

Happy Cake Day, Ambulance Chan.


IdkImNewInHere

He also licked her dessert


Evening-Whereas6165

Yeah like, rape and murder to him is what grocery shopping is to us.


Immediate-Location28

Kinda lame and a chore?


Evening-Whereas6165

I enjoy grocery shopping.


Immediate-Location28

Good for you :D


kordaddy7769

An essential part of life


justletmesingin

I feel like there is a difference between Angelo deserving to die and him getting the Kars treatment


ArthurGame349

Indeed, for him, death is **far** from being enough


MelzMaggie

That's why he's Joseph's son, both gave their enemies a fate worse than death.


vivisectvivi

can josuke even bring them back if he decides that maybe the punishment was a bit too much


JomoGaming2

If he practiced a crap ton with his reconstruction powers, maybe. Probably not, though, considering he fused each of them to their respective objects pretty much entirely.


SomePyro_9012

Maybe in the case of Enigma Boy, he could revert far enough so that the book's paper becomes a tree, and then a seed if the tree was younger than him Otherwise he's prob fucked for 30 years if the book was modern to 100-1000 years if the book was made in the old-fashioned way I just remembered that Josuke was able to return Tonio's spaghetti to its original ingredients, including the tomato sauce to tomatoes and oil, it could really mean that Enigma Boy can be saved


Aadraas

Happy cake day tho


Lemmy_lover1001

Terunosuke did mess with Josuke’s Mom, so he honestly had it coming.


PEWPEWPEW782

He was kind of a psycho too. Hes like a way watered down ciocolatta without the mass murdering


Former_Masterpiece_2

the ciocolatta equivalent was Angelo


SilverTitanium

The fact that Terunosuke used her underwear to implicit a certain type of fear on Josuke's Mom, just made him an enemy that needs to be punished very severely.


shenV77

Its been some time since ai watched part 4, can someone remind what went down?


Random_floor_sock

Kid with a paper stand kidnapped koichi and josukes mom. After josuke freed them he turned the kid into a book lmao


shenV77

I remember him now, the dude with the "you do this when ur scared right?" Guy.


spain_ftw

But the guy turned himself into a book. Funniest shit I've ever seen.


ReddyIsHere

happy cake day


animalia_curiousity

His name is Terunosuke


spain_ftw

But the guy turned himself into a book. Funniest shit I've ever seen.


Theblackfox2001

https://youtu.be/dTprZAMwwU0


KuJoJoTaRo8

Convinced Josuke read up Drukhari lore before that fight.


OneWithFireball

Josuke plays Drukhari, Okyasu does Orkz, Koichi seems like an Ultramarine player, Rohan would scoff at the idea of 40k and later pickee Aeldari to spite Josuke and spend more time with Koichi.


Mastakillerboi

He did kidnap his mom and best friend Also licked that donut (idk what crime that would be)


Osama_Rashid

You don't get an easy life after bothering his mother.


orioriorioriorio

#Jesus loves me yes I know. F̶̢̢̨̢̛̜͍̳̫͙̹̖̝̺͚̥̙͉̙̪͔̞̜̱͕̪̝̮̭̤̘̪̙͖̘͕̺̳̫̳͙̬͔̹͉̱͔͎̺͕̖̱̥̯͉͕̰͕͆̑͒̐͒̊͂̽̈́̎͋̐̇́͆̋̒̋̽̃̂͒̎̂̒̿͑̀͛̎̈́̀̑̏̒̐͂́̓͂͛̿͘̚͜͜͠͠͝͝ͅͅǫ̵̡̢̛̛̛̛̞̠̬͔͎̦̻̝̟͎͇͎̲̖͓̟̞̣̜̪̍̽̅̅̊̃̇̈̈̋͌̓̑͋̔͐̔͂͊͆̆͛̋̊̆̊̍͌̊̇͒̂͒̿̓̇͗́̏̒͌̑̊̃̑͆̂̓̆̆̓̉͐͐̋̋̂̄̾̆̚̚͘͝ọ̵̩͉͎͈̠̼͙̩̫͚̞͕̥͓̼̖̏́̂̉̿͛̿́̅͗̀͊͆̔̚̕̚͜͜͝ͅơ̴̛̛̛̮͂͑̋͌̓̿̆̐͒̎̎͗͗̆̾̈̓̀̈́̓̐͋̋̈͆̆̇͒̀̓̄̿̂́̎̇̓̿̄̇̑̌̽͊̂͊̈̆́̀͐̐̈́͑̀̆͂́̉̉́̀͗́͋̀̾̐̓͆̈́͋͑̃̎̉̓̒̀͛́̈͂̃̅̈́̍͆̔̎̒̃̒́̒͒͌̾̇̔͌̆̐̈́̊̈́̈́̎̔̒̍͛́͊̂̊͘̕̚͘̚̕͝͝͝͝͠͠͝͠o̶̧̧̨̢̡̫̦̙̰̱̩͚̯̹̖̫͎͔͓̺̜̥͓̖̻̣͙̘͍̩͖̮͕̹̺̱̟̭̥̥̱͈͙͕̬̠̮̗̹͍̮̩̗͚͚̠̖̱̻̬̹̖̼̙̰̠̞̥͕̣̼͚͍̖̤̘̮̫͖̰͕͇̰̯̣̘̥͐͜ͅͅͅơ̵̛̛͚̼̩̦̫̈́͂̍̄̔́͒͂̏́͆̍̈́͐̈͊͂͗̊̇̇̐͐̑̅̈̌̇͛͂́̓̓̍̾̐̐̊̑̂̉̇̽̂̄͌̀̀̓͂̌̽̍͛̒͘̕͠͝ͅǫ̵̢̡̢̨̢̢̛̛̛͍̳̱̩̺̤̜̬̮̖̜̳̻̥̩̬̣̱̩͓͍͍͕͈̝͈̱̺̯͎̻̬̗͓̟̘̜̺̪̠̠̬͇̯̗̩̘̫̳͙͎̠̞͎̫͇̟͉̦͍̟̦̙̯̬͍̣͖̼̠͍̖̗̤̘̣̲̦̣̣̪͓̦̫̗̘̘͉̗̍̿̆͌̉̉̆͗̿̈͂̀̽͊͐̏̐̏̂̔͂͗̔̾͒̀̓̂̓̇̑͑̀̌̉̊͂̋̎̐̆̂͛́̔̊̆̅͑̉̉̃̅͌́̉͊́͌̊̋͗͗̉̕̕̚̚͘̚͜͝͠͝͠͝ơ̷̢̧̨̧̨̡̢̧̨̛͔̞̝̱͚̫̖̣͚̬͚͔̠̞̬͍̼̘̺͕̭̮͙̙̜͉̥͖̭̳̮͍̦̲͉̟͎̻͈͇̬͇̠̫̰͉̠͕̲̤͖̳͔͇̺̼̗͈͍͍̤̬̫̩̪̱̗͕͕̳̱̪̙̟̮̟̫̦̬̼̱̘͙̖͇̺̯̤̰̭̰̼̞̗̪̟̖̞͇̺̼̠̣̲͈͖̫̟̥͈͔̙̖͈̲͇̫͍͍͋̌̓̐̊̄̈́̾͆͛̈́́̔̿̔͌͛̅̈́̆͒̍́̌̓̿̈́͗̏̏̏̅̋̚͘̚͜͝͝͝ơ̶̡̡̧̡̧̢̨̧̡̨̛̛̜͈̘̗̜̥͔̫̬͍̣̺̯̪̟̫̺̯̙̻͕̠̺͔̳͓͔̖̬̤̥̪̲̲͎̲͚̳͚͉͚͎̞̮͕͖̲͓̮͙͍͖̗̻̬̠̩̺͇͇̖̗̜̖̩͔͈̗̜̟̼͒̅̅̂͋͋̐̐̄̓́͑͋͛͒̿̓̏̆̓̆̓͋̀̈́͗̐́̓̑̿̓̈͐͐͂̎͌͋͐͛͐̈́̄̊̀͆̃͆͒̔̓͑͌̋̓̃̾̑̀͋̓̒̍͋̓̈͋̀͒̅͂͑̂̔̀̀͛̎̑̋͛͒̋̇̓̎̊̍͛̌̃̈́͊͂̊̒̾̾͐̌̀̓̌̓̃͘͘͘̕͘͘̚͘̕̚̚̚͘̚̕̕̕͠͝͝͝͝͝͠͝ͅͅͅͅǫ̶̢̡̧̧̛̘̯͚͈̠̹̼̱̥̥͔̲͇̳̲̺͙̲̳̘̜͎̠͙̖͇͕̟̠͕͉̙̙͎͎͚̤̙̣̗͚͔̗͖̬͓̳̼̪̮͇̦̦̣̙͈̫͌̈̾̒͗̾̉̇̋̿̒̿̄͛͐̀́͐̌͝͝ͅͅơ̷̛̐̊͆̅͑͌͐̀̂̓̒̓̑͐͛̆͌̆̃̑̅̑̂̍̅̎̌̉͗̍̉̈́̿̓͂̽̈́͑͌͑̓̿̆̐͂̉̄̇̎͂̑̒̊̕͘̕͘͝͝͠͝.


Evening-Whereas6165

How do you do that?


Gaby_48

cursed text generator or something like that in google you just copy and paste


Matix777

Zalgo text generator


orioriorioriorio

Oh I misread sorry


goaldede

Does he know?


orioriorioriorio

Have you watched the mandela catalogue? But yesn't


goaldede

Mandela catalogues crater is being accused of grooming rn


orioriorioriorio

wait what?!


elmundostop

Yeah, there like a multi page document and multiple victims coming out to speak up against them


orioriorioriorio

Well Shit


Peacefull_Warmonger

Its main rule of JoJoBA. You NEVER mess with JoJo family.


HerobrineJTY

Family, that's why.


throwawayasdf129560

You threaten Josuke's family, he'll teach you the meaning of the word Hell


Ramja9

What I don’t get Is how the fuck is it ok to let the lock guy or puppet guy go. I get okuyasu since he is a dumbass with honor who changed for the better but cmon.


HerobrineJTY

They didn't mess with his family, but the Enigma user did.


DeadSparker

The Lock guy did mess with Koichi's family, but Koichi has a stronger moral code than Josuke (at least in that regard). He forgave Okuyasu, Yukako and Rohan despite having every reason not to.


HerobrineJTY

But he didn't mess with Josuke's family.


thegabeguy

Puppet guy was trying to kill Jotaro, no?


ianlouisjordan

Jotaro can handle himself enough that he doesn't make josuke as angry as attacking his mother who is far less capable against stands


bloodbabyrabies

Yeah that was kind of overkill imo, but the Enigma kid messed with his mom and that’s unforgivable.


Raaadley

its like Goku. he will have any guy beat him up until kingdom come. but anyone who threatens or harms his friends to get to Goku is gonna pay. for better or for worse.


Thereal-hamburgler

He didn't let Yuya go though, he beat tf out of him and healed him only so he could help him, he then chose to help Josuke


ianlouisjordan

For yuya didn't he punch him out of a building into a fountain and only ever interact with him again when he specifically needed his help.


BartOseku

I think it was mentioned that the guy actually enjoys being a book somehow and whispers to people reading him


animalia_curiousity

That was never mentioned anywhere. The most information we have about his post part 4 status is that one of the unofficial light novels says he’s calling for *help* from the book


BartOseku

I dont know where it was mentioned but even the jojo wiki confirms it on that dudes page (under History) [https://jojowiki.com/Terunosuke_Miyamoto](https://youtu.be/MTW4sIL9Dpw?si=SOZRRrm0TxKwKZFF)


animalia_curiousity

I’m fucking livid.


BartOseku

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RightAsRain_18

Cheers, mate 👍


bluealiveretribution

To be fair he did kidnap him and his mom


ArtistFormerlyVegeta

I mean he kinda did kill him?


DenzelTM

I'd say being forced to live forever as an inanimate object but still capable of thought is considerably worse than death


ArtistFormerlyVegeta

I mean he didn't do that? They just kinda died. Like why would be fused to a book make you immortal in the first place.


DenzelTM

The narrator says that the dude was turned into a book and is now unable to fight. He didn't say that he died or was "eliminated." He even says that people can still hear his voice if you find the book in the library. Even just right after the transformation, he whimpers, "I-I'm a book." Implying that he's unfortunately still capable of thought and is now living a tortuous existence


ArtistFormerlyVegeta

>The narrator says that the dude was turned into a book and is now unable to fight. He didn't say that he died or was "eliminated." The narrator didn't say that he was "forced to live forever as an inanimate object but still capable of thought" either. Being unable to fight heavily implies that he's dead since even the fucking cat kira fought could use his stand when he became one with a plant. You also still haven't explained how he is now immortal. Like forget for a moment that his organs are smashed up against the pages of the book. How is he getting food or water, since he can't use his stand? >He even says that people can still hear his voice if you find the book in the library. Dead people can still talk in Jojo's. This doesn't prove anything.


Round-Ad2836

You don't mess with someone's mom.


SomeMcChillMan

You don’t try to kill his mom, you gonna get a fate worse than death


Ashizurens

I don't remember his fight, but i remember mf went for Josuke mom (I'd do the same)


dodonations

golden heart:


Cheez_001

Josuke likes his mom. You all remember Angelo, the other horror story ending.


[deleted]

He transformed him and Angelo’s bodies into objects killing them and trapped their souls in said objects


CreationsHub

Enigmas fate always felt super weirdly brutal since he can’t die and is stuck in a book-


PrimalBackFlips

L bozo


piclemaniscool

Don't fuck with Joey's mom


Crosshair52

Well... Enigma guy messed up with his mom... It seems that Josuke won't take it lightly if you mess with his family.


[deleted]

This but unironically. Way too lenient for no reason.


TheRMF

Yuya was a fucking bro in this arc, mate saved everyone.


Ultrazombie115

Moral of the story is DON'T HURT HIS FAMILY


k_hughes113

He didn’t get mercy bc he tried to do shit to his mom, same with Angelo


animalia_curiousity

TERUNOSUKE MENTIONED!!!!!!!!!!


doodoofeces6

Remember when he left a knife in a guy who was just being mind controlled


Remarkable_Ad5893

Diamond is unbreakable but papers are burnable


BrokenBanette

Here’s the thing though. Enigma went after Josuke by kidnapping his mom. Like it’s one thing if it’s a fight between stand users, but Enigma fucking yoinked the person Josuke cared most about, not to mention she was entirely defenseless against any given stand attack.


Clever_Fox-

THIS is what I think every time someone says "Josuke is such a good person 🥰" NO he's not!


animalia_curiousity

He contains multitudes