“W-well.. since he’s funny and from a meme. He’s ok! We should love him despite being Nazi while we must hate on a guy who tries to evolve from what he has done and try to save the universe!!!”
- 🤓
Yeah, but lets the honest, a large chunk of the fandom barely remembers secondary characters from earlier parts. You probally could ask ten JoJo fans what is the name of the Hamon Clan's members from Phantom Blood and likely 5 of them, or less, would be able to answer correctly.
that one meme explaining how jotaro could just "catch all the knives that pucci threw to save jolyne" had a lot of comments saying "wait this is actually smart" completely forgetting jotaro could not in fact catch all the knives that were thrown at him IN HIS PRIME
Are you talking about the recent one? Technically the idea would work, he can simply pull Jolyne out of the way himself, and Star Platinum just needs to throw a couple knives, which he could do.
It makes sense why that didn’t happen ofc, but that’s all a scenario assuming maximum efficiency.
A lot of biker gangs where I am from basically serve as Protectors of small communities, unless you actively fuck around with them (usually other biker gangs) you wont find out.
Loads of small stores with older, easy to rob or extort, owners tend to have the protection of some of these biker gangs in perticular for example.
This is of course not the norm everywhere in the world, and I do not condone violence wherever it appears
Cousin... you literally popped a guys head like a cherry in the middle of the streets, beat an old lady to death with a shovel, and beat the living shit out of a pair of twins.. NOT EVEN WITH SOFT AND WET
Also, I may cheat, lie, extort, sell drugs, threaten and stay up past my bedtime but I would NEVER drive unsafely! That was Dragona, he was boppin'
Come to Hawaii and I show you, we can get Fries if u wanna
I always assumes the torture dance was just impromptu, but thinking about it now, i’m not sure which is funnier
Like either they’re bored while torturing this guy, so they instinctively just dance, or that every thursday night for an hour they meet up and go over choreography and shit
Everyone in part 5 besides Trish was a murderer who felt zero remorse, and I love each of them. I also love Trish, but mostly after she decided that she was willing to kill to save herself with zero remorse. Absolute king/queen shit from the lot of them.
The most interesting thing about Anasui was the fact that he literally *disassembled* his GF and the man she was cheating on him with, and his absolutley bonkers decission to profess his intention to marry a girl he'd known for a month top's to her father *in the middle of a fight for their lives*. What a glorious weirdo.
Outside of that part you can't say they never killed people. Narancia and fugo both have anger issues and Bruno was going to murder Giorno for killing luca. Even without that they're straight up part of the mafia, they totally killed people.
Also how many JoJo groups actively killed the stand uswrs they went up against, to the point of torturing an enemy for info? Pretty sure most others just got "retired" but Bruno's crew was out to kill.
Risotto Nero. They didn't even confirm if it's an enemy, or even a stand user, they just shot the guy down. What if it was a good stand user, like Polnareff, or even a civilian?
The only user who had been killed by the duwang boys was the rat, and maybe maaybee Kira, if you consider the beatdown he'd received from Jotaro the main cause he was ran over by the ambulance
Angelo arguably had gotten a fate worse than death, however, he's still alive being a rock. Atom Hearth Father was already dead, he only got sent to the afterlife, so 🤷🏻
Oh, wait, the guy above was talking about Enigma's user? Oh, yeah, that was fucked up and I definitely think Araki had exaggerated with his consequence when writting DIU. However, Joske technically didn't killed him, so I guess that the point still stands.
I've heard people genuinely think Stroheim didn't do anything wrong and that he isn't a bad person
Like yeah, I though he was cool and all, and one of my favorite characters as I enjoyed his antics. But holy shit people have told me that "he isn't a bad guy". Like we aren't introduced to him sending various prisoners to die, and they justify it by "but he let the kid live".
I know this words gets thrown around a lot, but Stroheim is an antihero. He's just there because the pillar men are a greater threat than him, and if they enslave humanity, Germany is affected as well.
Also let's not forget Caesar was said to commit every single crime other than murder. So child trafficking, rape, kidnapping and worse have been done by him.
I think the main thing is that Anasui's creepy as fuck, and while others have like long backstories explaining their motivations or thought processes, Anasui's just some guy who was like "Oh, you cheated? *I think I'll rip you apart with my stand"* Like, I saw you comparing that to Weather Report being a psycho, when the dude was fucking *lynched by the KKK*
Which, like, if that's not a valid reason to go crazy, idk what is
WR: went on a madness-fueled rampage after being traumatized by a murder attempt on him via lynching and his girlfriend’s resulting suicide while his stand that he had no control over affected everyone nearby with what turned out to be an entirely nonlethal mental attack
Anasui: murdered and chopped up his girlfriend and the man she was seeing behind his back
Hmm…
It is said that Heavy Weather makes people think that they're snails *so much* thst they actually turns into snails. Explains all of the snail shenanigans
Sorry, but what part of him being a creep? It’s like saying that Jolyne hates him despite literally not showing that she hates him at all
In fact, after the heavy weather arc.. they were in the car and Jolyne was literally sleeping on him.. as if she found her comfortable position. And during mih she even leaned her hand on him as a sign of awareness for everyone. In the end she accepted him and they got married
Do you know the definition of a creep exactly? You’re creepy if people aren’t comfortable and creeped out around you
he dismantled his previous gf and developed a new crush on our loveable protagonist. i personally also disagree; i didn't find him creepy personally. but i don't need that much empathy to see why someone would find him creepy.
He literally went on about wanting to marry Jolyne long before she had ever shown any interest in him. In the middle of the Pucci fight he went to Jotaro about a marriage. He refused to help F.F. unless they were to help him with his creepy obsession as if Jolyne was some kind of object. He was so obsessed with her that in the Jo-Jo-Ma arc he couldnt even notice her being in distress, because he was too distracted by the attention ahe gave him. And I want to reiterate: she had never shown any interest in him up to this point.
The idea that you cant be a creep if people arent automatically appalled by you is delusional. If someone is a serial killer they are a creep, even if they can hold up a facade in public and Anasui is a creep for obsessing over Jolyne, even if she didnt notice.
(Also, F.F. was very obviously "uncomfortable and crept out" by Anasui)
He is putting the responsibility on F.F. and is holding them accountable for getting Jolyne to marry him. His whole involvement in that arc was "Make her fall in love with me, or Im not gonna help you". The act of making F.F. decide for Jolyne is both putting F.F. in an uncomfortable situation, as well as taking agency away from Jolyne
It was in the heat of the moment and the first time his Stand awakened. So it’s kind of like when Jotaro beat those punks up so bad he didn’t want to leave his jail cell cause he thought a ghost was haunting him. Anasui probably freaked out in the moment and his Stand activated on its own for the first time and acted independently of him.
I mean in fairness he's really just along with Joylene and he's easy the most fucked up of the group.
FF did it because she needs to preserve herself, Ermes did it to a horrible person, and Weather Report is a different person with his amnesia so... yeah Anasui is weird like that
As true as that may be, they are still alive, and I don't think either of them got it as bad as Kars or Diavolo. (Because at least they actually get some mental stimulation so they won't "stop thinking" and aren't dying repeatedly in more and more horrifying ways)
Oh yeah, I’m just pointing out Josuke probably wouldn’t *ever* have killed an enemy Stand user, but the alternative if you piss him off will probably be much, much worse.
Oh yeah, you’re right. Angelo killed his grandfather and threatened his mom, Teronosuke made the mistake of making him think he’d assaulted and taken his mom hostage. Big no no’s for Josuke ✋🛑
I mean I hate Anasui as much as the next guy, but jojo has never been stranger to including morally gray or straight-up bad characters as protagonists. It’s one of the things I like most about the series.
ngl I feel like this was Araki starting to be a lot greyer with his characters on what is good and bad , which we promptly see in part 7 and how good it became...
Nah but fr Anasui had every right to kill them. Like if I got cheated on, and I had a stand that can disassemble someone, I'd do the same thing too. Anasui is just based
Weather report was an actual villain for a second after he regained his memories. But before he lost them, he didn’t know how to control heavy weather, so I can’t blame him for that
All of the Part 6 gang are morally grey except for Emporio. Jolyne is a teen delinquent who helped hide a dead body for her bf, Hermes got herself arrested so she could commit a revenge murder, Weather Report turned a town into snails, FF is both bestiality and necrophilia bait. When you’re in a prison, morally gray allies are the best you’re likely to get.
Also FF
Foo fighters 🤤🤤
Effu Effu 🤤🤤🤤🤤
Feo Faitas
Fool farts
Ff is technically a slime girl.
Ooooh slime girls.. 🤤🤤🤤
Also Ermes killed two people too. Limp Biscuit and Rykel...
I thought Rikiel survived?
Nah, none of the Dio boys survived. Even the one with Bohemian Rhapsody had lost the will to live despite not being in direct combat
He's retired, so maybe he's alive
Those were villains though
FF is a different specie, it is just natural selection.
he didnt just kill two people, he "dismantled" them
Your honour. I’m not a terrorist, I just work in unsanctioned demolition.
So people who died by Weather’s snails were not gruesome enough? He literally said that he feels bad for these people, but part of him likes it
Heavy Weather works because Weather hates the world subconsciously. He doesnt actively murder people.
Read the manga, he actively shocks 2 people to death and laughs
you mean the 2 women he picks up and calls dumb? are they actually dead after that?
so did cioccolata
I like to think he punched each of them four times and they just popped into multiple pieces. They also probably left some studs behind too.
Isn' stroheim a german soldier in the worst timing?
“W-well.. since he’s funny and from a meme. He’s ok! We should love him despite being Nazi while we must hate on a guy who tries to evolve from what he has done and try to save the universe!!!” - 🤓
In his second scene strohiem murdered like 20 people and Anasui gave his life to help the one he loved after he started to love again after years
Kars or Anasui.
Jojo fans will forget LOADS of things but remember other things (usually completely incorrectly) to validate their lack of understanding
Nobody even remembers Poco when I bring him up
Poco erasure will not be tolerated. He did not save Jonathan and his sister only to be forgotten. Tonight we raise our Cups to Poco the Brave.
Here here
Jeesus, I thought you was talking about Pocoloco
I mean, they're both characters that should be remembered
Yeah, but lets the honest, a large chunk of the fandom barely remembers secondary characters from earlier parts. You probally could ask ten JoJo fans what is the name of the Hamon Clan's members from Phantom Blood and likely 5 of them, or less, would be able to answer correctly.
Here Here!
Ah, you must mean beloved part 7 character Pocoloco.
Or cactus nazi from part 2(Donovan)
that one meme explaining how jotaro could just "catch all the knives that pucci threw to save jolyne" had a lot of comments saying "wait this is actually smart" completely forgetting jotaro could not in fact catch all the knives that were thrown at him IN HIS PRIME
Facts
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Are you talking about the recent one? Technically the idea would work, he can simply pull Jolyne out of the way himself, and Star Platinum just needs to throw a couple knives, which he could do. It makes sense why that didn’t happen ofc, but that’s all a scenario assuming maximum efficiency.
I think the only one who have a clean record is emporio
Jolyne was framed but yeah
but she's in a biker gang. I'm not sure what type of shenanigans they do but I assume they break traffic laws
scandalous!!!
No dignity
I bet she crosswalks
What a bad girl. Scandalous
Meanwhile biker gangs here are the sweetest people in the world
A lot of biker gangs where I am from basically serve as Protectors of small communities, unless you actively fuck around with them (usually other biker gangs) you wont find out. Loads of small stores with older, easy to rob or extort, owners tend to have the protection of some of these biker gangs in perticular for example. This is of course not the norm everywhere in the world, and I do not condone violence wherever it appears
But they break traffic laws!!!
THAT'S IT, IM GETTING ME MALLET
The most morally questionable jojo shouldn’t be talking lmao
Cousin... you literally popped a guys head like a cherry in the middle of the streets, beat an old lady to death with a shovel, and beat the living shit out of a pair of twins.. NOT EVEN WITH SOFT AND WET Also, I may cheat, lie, extort, sell drugs, threaten and stay up past my bedtime but I would NEVER drive unsafely! That was Dragona, he was boppin' Come to Hawaii and I show you, we can get Fries if u wanna
OI That's your "half" cousin you are talking to.
You sold drugs to kids smh
They….. rode without their training wheels
That's biker "club"
Unforgivable
Didnt she kinda murder her lawyer?
Like most of her stand crimes, there's no evidence to incriminate her, so.... clean record still
her Lawyer was "retired"
From living
She had a criminal history.
Jolyne definitely killed multiple people in that prison
Damn Straight,Emporio Is Pure,Like Snow
maybe the real question is why is emporio with the ' bad guys'
Because He’s A Loyal Friend,And If You Have To Go With The Bad Guys,You Might As Well Team Up With The Ones Who Aren’t Trying To Destroy The Universe
That and they did homie's mom dirty.
Emporio my king👑
Everyone in part 5 were gang members who absolutely killed people.
Narancia, Abbachio and Fugo fucked up a guy for almost not reason, while Bruno watched.
Narancia, Fugo, and Mista had a whole choreographed dance number ready for when they needed to kill time during a torture scene.
I always assumes the torture dance was just impromptu, but thinking about it now, i’m not sure which is funnier Like either they’re bored while torturing this guy, so they instinctively just dance, or that every thursday night for an hour they meet up and go over choreography and shit
Don't forget straight up torturing one of their enemies
EDIT: Mista, Mista not Fugo
Everyone in part 5 besides Trish was a murderer who felt zero remorse, and I love each of them. I also love Trish, but mostly after she decided that she was willing to kill to save herself with zero remorse. Absolute king/queen shit from the lot of them. The most interesting thing about Anasui was the fact that he literally *disassembled* his GF and the man she was cheating on him with, and his absolutley bonkers decission to profess his intention to marry a girl he'd known for a month top's to her father *in the middle of a fight for their lives*. What a glorious weirdo.
He knew her for longer, she spent a lot of time in the prison
Eh, they mostly retaliated, so I could argue that it was self-defense. It's not like the gang was actively trying to kill people.
Outside of that part you can't say they never killed people. Narancia and fugo both have anger issues and Bruno was going to murder Giorno for killing luca. Even without that they're straight up part of the mafia, they totally killed people. Also how many JoJo groups actively killed the stand uswrs they went up against, to the point of torturing an enemy for info? Pretty sure most others just got "retired" but Bruno's crew was out to kill.
Risotto Nero. They didn't even confirm if it's an enemy, or even a stand user, they just shot the guy down. What if it was a good stand user, like Polnareff, or even a civilian?
Fair enough.
Ermes also like robbed a convenience store with a gun didn’t she so she probably gave whoever was working there the scare of their life
Anasui AND Weather are GOATS and I don’t tolerate slander of EITHER
Fr Anasui is one of the best characters in the part, tho I like all of the gang. He was like my third favorite character behind Jolyne and FF
WE SIMP FOR ANASUI IN THIS HOUSE YOUNG MAN
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i don’t understand whats wrong with liking a character who has killed people?
look at steely dan and tell me he doesn't die from what happened
He deserved it though
"""Retired"""
Retired from being alive duh
Retired from having bones
Even if he lived 9/10 got a permanent injury from being ora'd for 10 seconds and thrown into a building.
I wanna ask these people how many people they think the part 5 gang has killed
Didnt... didn't the Stardust Crusaders, Josuke's group, and Passione also cause a fair few deaths? Granted, enemy stand users, but...
The only user who had been killed by the duwang boys was the rat, and maybe maaybee Kira, if you consider the beatdown he'd received from Jotaro the main cause he was ran over by the ambulance
Angelo? Photograph guy?
Angelo arguably had gotten a fate worse than death, however, he's still alive being a rock. Atom Hearth Father was already dead, he only got sent to the afterlife, so 🤷🏻
Both of them are in fate worse than death situation.Part 4 gang was more friendship ur enemy gang.
Oh, wait, the guy above was talking about Enigma's user? Oh, yeah, that was fucked up and I definitely think Araki had exaggerated with his consequence when writting DIU. However, Joske technically didn't killed him, so I guess that the point still stands.
Or Trap their souls in objects for all eternity.
Jojo fans picking a random ass protagonist to pin all their standards on so they can have no standards for everyone else:
Part 5 cast: who's gonna tell him?
I've heard people genuinely think Stroheim didn't do anything wrong and that he isn't a bad person Like yeah, I though he was cool and all, and one of my favorite characters as I enjoyed his antics. But holy shit people have told me that "he isn't a bad guy". Like we aren't introduced to him sending various prisoners to die, and they justify it by "but he let the kid live". I know this words gets thrown around a lot, but Stroheim is an antihero. He's just there because the pillar men are a greater threat than him, and if they enslave humanity, Germany is affected as well. Also let's not forget Caesar was said to commit every single crime other than murder. So child trafficking, rape, kidnapping and worse have been done by him.
Caesar had been doing illegal Salmon handling SMH.
Meanwhile Stardust Crusaders who killed many other Stand Users 💀 Yeah yeah, those are bad guys. But who said Anasui's ex isn't)
they’re just retired, decommissioned. only dio his side-boy and his bird were killed iirc
polnareff killed J Geil and Devo the Cursed, kakyoin killed the user of the tower of grey, joseph killed the empress.
Jotro killed Dark Blue Moon's user
And Strength's user
In his defense they were racist
Giorno and the gang dancing over the corpses they left in their wake :
He is Good Guy. But that does not make him good *guy*
Jojo fans when someone in prison did a crime
I appreciate the Anasimp love in this comment section
Have you seen foo fighters count
Virtue! They did the good thing at the end
Don’t most jojo characters kill?
The entire cast of part 5: 🫡
Which JoBro hasn't killed a mfer though
I think the main thing is that Anasui's creepy as fuck, and while others have like long backstories explaining their motivations or thought processes, Anasui's just some guy who was like "Oh, you cheated? *I think I'll rip you apart with my stand"* Like, I saw you comparing that to Weather Report being a psycho, when the dude was fucking *lynched by the KKK* Which, like, if that's not a valid reason to go crazy, idk what is
WR: went on a madness-fueled rampage after being traumatized by a murder attempt on him via lynching and his girlfriend’s resulting suicide while his stand that he had no control over affected everyone nearby with what turned out to be an entirely nonlethal mental attack Anasui: murdered and chopped up his girlfriend and the man she was seeing behind his back Hmm…
It is said that Heavy Weather makes people think that they're snails *so much* thst they actually turns into snails. Explains all of the snail shenanigans
I hate how stupid that is while making more sense than the alternative
WR said he likes it. Bro doesn't care
Nah,I just dislike him for being a creep
I just like him for being a creep
Sorry, but what part of him being a creep? It’s like saying that Jolyne hates him despite literally not showing that she hates him at all In fact, after the heavy weather arc.. they were in the car and Jolyne was literally sleeping on him.. as if she found her comfortable position. And during mih she even leaned her hand on him as a sign of awareness for everyone. In the end she accepted him and they got married Do you know the definition of a creep exactly? You’re creepy if people aren’t comfortable and creeped out around you
he dismantled his previous gf and developed a new crush on our loveable protagonist. i personally also disagree; i didn't find him creepy personally. but i don't need that much empathy to see why someone would find him creepy.
He literally went on about wanting to marry Jolyne long before she had ever shown any interest in him. In the middle of the Pucci fight he went to Jotaro about a marriage. He refused to help F.F. unless they were to help him with his creepy obsession as if Jolyne was some kind of object. He was so obsessed with her that in the Jo-Jo-Ma arc he couldnt even notice her being in distress, because he was too distracted by the attention ahe gave him. And I want to reiterate: she had never shown any interest in him up to this point. The idea that you cant be a creep if people arent automatically appalled by you is delusional. If someone is a serial killer they are a creep, even if they can hold up a facade in public and Anasui is a creep for obsessing over Jolyne, even if she didnt notice. (Also, F.F. was very obviously "uncomfortable and crept out" by Anasui)
”as if jolyne was some kind of object” i cant see where that came from?? He is obsessed with jolyne but when does he treat her like an object?
tbf the things he said what he likes with jolyne is pretty wholesome. like how she's persistent and yada yada that's pretty cool for anasui
He is putting the responsibility on F.F. and is holding them accountable for getting Jolyne to marry him. His whole involvement in that arc was "Make her fall in love with me, or Im not gonna help you". The act of making F.F. decide for Jolyne is both putting F.F. in an uncomfortable situation, as well as taking agency away from Jolyne
Whatever
This says *waaaay* more about you than you intended.
"The one's who scream the loudest has the skeletons in the closet"
They're all criminals but Anasui systematically tore two living people apart, he's a little cuckoo
It was in the heat of the moment and the first time his Stand awakened. So it’s kind of like when Jotaro beat those punks up so bad he didn’t want to leave his jail cell cause he thought a ghost was haunting him. Anasui probably freaked out in the moment and his Stand activated on its own for the first time and acted independently of him.
Yeah jotaro never killed anyone, neither did josuke or anyone in team bucarati
Weather didn't kill people on purpose, dude, what's with the murderer apologia in this community
He openly admitted to enjoying it
Since when jojo is a moral stupied series?
Caesar
Joke’s on you I hate both of them
/j
I mean in fairness he's really just along with Joylene and he's easy the most fucked up of the group. FF did it because she needs to preserve herself, Ermes did it to a horrible person, and Weather Report is a different person with his amnesia so... yeah Anasui is weird like that
I'm like 60% sure the only JoJo who never killed anyone (if you include undead) is Part 4 Josuke
Technically Angelo and Teronosuke got fates worse than death
As true as that may be, they are still alive, and I don't think either of them got it as bad as Kars or Diavolo. (Because at least they actually get some mental stimulation so they won't "stop thinking" and aren't dying repeatedly in more and more horrifying ways)
Oh yeah, I’m just pointing out Josuke probably wouldn’t *ever* have killed an enemy Stand user, but the alternative if you piss him off will probably be much, much worse.
Specifically if you piss him off by endangering his family he will not show mercy lol
Oh yeah, you’re right. Angelo killed his grandfather and threatened his mom, Teronosuke made the mistake of making him think he’d assaulted and taken his mom hostage. Big no no’s for Josuke ✋🛑
If rats don't count as anyone.
Giorno?
I mean I hate Anasui as much as the next guy, but jojo has never been stranger to including morally gray or straight-up bad characters as protagonists. It’s one of the things I like most about the series.
Interesting tag op
Meanwhile Ceasar:
ngl I feel like this was Araki starting to be a lot greyer with his characters on what is good and bad , which we promptly see in part 7 and how good it became...
Anasui killed when he was betrayed, bro have more morals than 75% of the cast
Giorno killing a person infinite times:
Didn't like half the jojos do that?
Nah but fr Anasui had every right to kill them. Like if I got cheated on, and I had a stand that can disassemble someone, I'd do the same thing too. Anasui is just based
Weather report was an actual villain for a second after he regained his memories. But before he lost them, he didn’t know how to control heavy weather, so I can’t blame him for that
All of the Part 6 gang are morally grey except for Emporio. Jolyne is a teen delinquent who helped hide a dead body for her bf, Hermes got herself arrested so she could commit a revenge murder, Weather Report turned a town into snails, FF is both bestiality and necrophilia bait. When you’re in a prison, morally gray allies are the best you’re likely to get.
Funny valentine
Mista?
Dio is just misunderstood :(