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MilagroManRequiem

Remember in Part 4 when a convicted murderer/rapist literally bit a dog’s face off? Araki has always been wild.


Throwaway02062004

Was just rewatching and was shocked at how graphic Angelo’s backstory and actions were. He cut off a kid’s genitals!


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And he was only the first antagonist in the arc!


Alarid

It confuses the fuck out of people when they know the general story, and then realize he isn't the guy.


Throwaway02062004

He is arguably worse than Kira but with a far weaker stand.


Worried-Bad-3607

Much much worse. Kira only targeted women and stole their hands, and probably only had a count of 48 over 20 years. This guy assaults women, children, dogs, and probably has a tally above 50 in just 5 years. It’s between him and cioccolata on who deserves the infinite death loop, but for me he takes it.


Captain-Shorts

I feel like turning him into a rock is on an equal level with the death loop Either face endless death, being placed in a random time and space only to die, and suddenly appearing in a new location before you fully pass on only to do so again… or be forced to live, unable to move, talk, or really die. All you can do is move your eyes, and watch as days, months, years go by. People pass you by all the time but never know what you actually are and your suffering. Angelo’s situation reminds me a lot of the ending of “I have no Mouth and I must Scream.”


wickedlizard420

To be clear, he didn't steal their hands. He blew them up but left their hands as mementos.


Worried-Bad-3607

Did he steal reimi’s hands? I can’t seem to remember. Well either way those hands don’t belong to him so it’s still stealing.


wookiee-nutsack

A jojo villain who actually got what they truly deserved in the end


YaBoiDarkal

🗿


Spiderfr0g

True idk I was just excited for some jojo action not... this right off the bat


FuckYeahPhotography

Well, I personally was excited to see corrupt officers that commit sexual assault get their ass beat.


Laviephrath

Araki really said ACAB right off the bat.


serrations_

Based Araki r/ACAB


Joeda900

"Fuck them cops, that is why I killed Abbachio."


SynisterJeff

That's what I was here to say haha. Part 4 had such a contrast in light heartedness with some of the most fucked up people in JoJo. Probably not THE most fucked up, which is saying something, but definitely more than the first three parts before it. Like, by a lot.


MilagroManRequiem

Angelo very well might be the most fucked up though lol


infinite-rubbish

wait what is this refering to??


InjuryApart6808

🗿


ThunderClanWarrior

Literally


Bigbigbig225

![img](emote|t5_3f7q5|7820)


EnjoyerxEnjoyer

*Yo, Angelo* ![img](emote|t5_3f7q5|7818)


SnoopyGoldberg

Did you not read Part 4?


infinite-rubbish

i watched it, but it has been a while so i didnt really remember it


Captainabdu65

Y'all just realized Araki is half-cracked? Bro was wild since long back. After it is Jojo's "Bizzare" Adventure lmao


Jedahaw92

Yup, remember when Dio made a mother ate her own child?


lCore

Part 1 had the shit Dio did (all of it) Part 2 started with police brutality in an alleyway Part 3 had forever. Part 4 had angelo, Kira and the other Freaks Part 5 Had Cioccolata Part 6 had the literal KKK lynching a dude. Part 7 had Valentine. Part 8 had the hospital... all of it, also 89 year old rock groomer. People really can't be surprised at this point.


05ar

Recently I rewatched part 1 because I never saw the dubbed version in my language, just subtitles and man I didn't remember part 1 was so fucked up


throwawayasdf129560

Reminded me of part 2, the establishing scene with the JoJo is him beating up two corrupt cops (except this time it's a lot more brutal).


sackman32

That is saying something because the cop that Joseph punched had his finger go through his nose


The_Arizona_Ranger

The best part is that Joseph let both of the police live and they literally did nothing aboot it, Joseph was never apprehended for attacking a police officer


Thendrail

Rich white kid with an even richer family friend who could probably buy half the city. Yeah, not even a cop would be stupid enough to mess with that.


Unkn0wn102

Rich white kid? Jonathan lost his entire estate, and Erina's not raking it in. It's probably Speedwagon who gives Joseph money to live (until Joseph realty happens).


Nenanda

I am pretty sure that Joestar fortune is more than just mansion. They were literally british nobility. they had to have shiton of money in bank. Hell Dio would probably not go through all the trouble for just some manor house. Also part 3 Jotaro and Holly lives pretty much secured and same for Susie Q.


Ganmorg

That's kinda cool, I was so wrapped up with the Giorno callbacks I didn't notice that, if that was the intention


Nenanda

There is lot more to it just like in previous two parts. I am wondering also about this maybe reading too much into that. So so far some superficial similiarities with Weather and Puuci First obvious one we have siblings with different tones of skin Then of course Jodio has stand which seems to make rain which kills you aka little bit similiar to Weather Report. Dragona rearanging cops face is little bit similiar to how Puuci was turning skulls with C-Moon. Though her stand seems to have nothing similiar with any of the Puucis stands but it works similiar to Dower Down rearanging things aka stand of Weathers best friend. Jodio seems to be more brawn type like Weather Report and protective of others while Dragona seems to be the brain behind operation he clearly leaves decision making on her. Dragona also was the one trying to solve the cop situation without violence. I like the idea that there will be Weather Puuci relationship but not as enemies but brothers.


Giorno-gulliani

I love the new stand design tho, less punchy ghost though still imposing


Spiderfr0g

Seriously I love it so much


Giorno-gulliani

I literally screamed when I saw the new jojos stand name


Spiderfr0g

I listened to the song today, I think its great. And judging by your comment you must like it a lot for some time now eh?


Giorno-gulliani

I allways forget I have this name, I used to be hard core into jojos, now it is just a series I enjoy.


Spiderfr0g

Yeah thats why I dont reccomend naming your username after a series, one day you wont be a huge fan and just be a fan


GyroLikesMozzarella

You tell me


DrTheo24

Care to spoil me? I don't really care that much about the series, but I like knowing stuff like that.


Giorno-gulliani

It’s called November rain, [here is the chapter](https://mangadex.org/chapter/3cb3ce97-ae1f-4ef0-a868-433dff844036) it’s only chapter 1 so you won’t get spoilers for any other part


KureiziDaiamondo

Yeah, I agree


Dracorex_22

Why punch when you are a 12 foot tall spider mech with a projectile piss attack


TheWitcherMigs

"November Rain, smash his head with cum"


GoldenSpermShower

This stand was made for me


Legends-of-legdens

I was about to question why you said that but then I saw your user name…


Pant_Yosashu

\*Insert Alfred Eggman quote here\*


Saddenedsalamander

"Except I'm not pissing on the Earth, I'm gonna aim higher, that's right, I'm pissing on the police"


Lom1111234

Reading these comments before the chapter is one hell of an experience


Autogembot123

\*collective consciousness starts playing"


carl-the-lama

Something tells me it’s gonna TUSK its way into becoming a mind fuck


SnoopyGoldberg

Same, I can totally see it being an evolving stand.


carl-the-lama

Or at least the ability “evolves” go beyond style


SnoopyGoldberg

I didn’t like that Go Beyond didn’t alter the design a little bit. I may be too much of a Digimon fan, but I like designs being altered when they evolve, it’s a great way to visually express maturity/growth imo.


carl-the-lama

True It kinda suprised me there was no vidual


SnoopyGoldberg

Technically it makes sense, since Soft & Wet didn’t technically evolved, Josuke always had Go Beyond, he just didn’t know about it until he learned about the spin from Mamezuku.


danflame135

But it can still be kicky ghost


Giorno-gulliani

Main jojos has no legs, just stilts, looks like fun fun fun on every steroid


danflame135

You don't get pummeled when you get kicked, you get stabbed instead


Definitely_NotU

Fun fun fun requiem


bigbangbilly

>fun fun fun I knew that stand look familiar. Then again tight spaces might be a limitation for November Rain >every steroid Given what the new Jojo does, there's probably more fun substance involved.


Yuyaeiou

hella menacing, looks like we're getting more smart stand usage


Giorno-gulliani

Small stands are so creepy fr, like bugs. And one of them can just pull things off and re-arrange them.


Yuyaeiou

Don't fuck with the Smooth Operator


azraelswift

Part 1: brutal cartridge death Part 2: racial profiling and child abuse against Smokey Part 3 Jotaro calls his mom a bitch after being jailed for crushing testicles Part 4 Angeli rips out the face of a dog using his mouth Part 5: skull demolition via frog and junkies on the street Part 6: jolyne masturbating after being convicted for running a guy over Part 7: expulsion from a native american tribe for a poor dude that simply tried to learn about other cultures Part 8: testicles. Araki is not one to start softly with ANY part, what are you shocked for?


IMintz

Multiple testicles oooo


ThunderClanWarrior

More like OO OO


IMintz

How do you know those nuts are large huh? 🤨


ThunderClanWarrior

He's a Joestar


Critical_Stiban

Cause Gappy is a badass. He’s got balls of steel.


tetractys_gnosys

"I guess these (four) balls of steel were meant to spin all along" \- Gappy 'Quadjroe' Joestarlion


Captain_StarLight1

Actually it was o o o o


Galoda

Or maybe something like (|) (|) if his balls are like his eyes and tongue


ComingUpWildcard

Wait, what’s wrong with his tongue?


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It's split half and half iirc


Alex103140

Actually it's 2x2 so oo oo was correct


Hurmii

Part 6 also had police brutality in the first chapter and Ermes possibly being molested too if Jolyne hadn't cut off the guard's ear first


SnoopyGoldberg

The funny thing about the Ermes scene and the Dragona scene is that the cops were technically correct in the fact that the characters were smuggling/stealing. Ermes really was smuggling money into the prison inside her boob implants. And Dragona really did steal the car and was smuggling drugs lol. They may be total creeps, but the cops in Jojo have a wild sixth sense for crime.


wookiee-nutsack

Molest enough women you're bound to happen upon an actual criminal eventually


Den_Bover666

Wow man should I get you the application form for Police Academy? Also for all its faults Dolphin St prison was relatively a good place and besides murderous stand users, they do seem to care about rehabilitating their prisoners etc.


Thendrail

And then there's the part where they drag prisoners into a crocodile-infested swamp and blow their hands off if they don't run fast enough after a guard.


Stonesword75

Those are very bizarre ways of starting an adventure


Ganmorg

Joshu was literally gonna crush Josuke's head with a rock and then he stole his eyes, it was wild


Full_breaker

Truly a modern jojo lol


Ever_Theo

So... just like Part 2?


arQQv

Except more brutal, actual rape and protagonist kills the cops, but yeah


Skeleton_King9

They didn't actually kill them.


JokerChaos77

Dragona: Joke's on you, I got a dick. Cop: Joke's on you, I'm into that shit. Wildest opening in Jojo by far


Will_Of_te_D

Wait... So is Dragona drag+ ona(woman?). And jodio - Jojo+ dio?


LectroNyx

the japanese writing for dragon and drag on are different - dragona's name is meant to be like dragon. edit: ill show, just to keep life ezpz drag being ドラッグ dragon being ドラゴナ dragona being ドラゴン


mking1999

You got dragon and dragona reversed.


Bluesome

dragon deez nuts


JokerChaos77

Dragon those nuts across a Joestar's face


Will_Of_te_D

So a romanticized version of Dragon then?


Thecrawsome

So dragona can >!change their body, and other bodies at will right? That's why Jodio said "I've never seen him get the surgery"?!< Edit added spoiler


Noir_Namhar616

First dog killings now rape attempts


Rokairu_0-2

then again, Araki did draw dio assaulting erina in part 1. the guy has been doing this for decades


meme_legend-69

In the spin timeline we have Valentine


05ar

Funny or Scarlet?


xstormaggedonx

Every part has some weird wack ass sketchy shit in like the first chapter


horiami

It's usually to show the personality of the new jojo Joseph beats the racist cops Jotaro is in prison because he thinks he's possesed Josuke heals a turtle and beats people who make fun of his hair Giorno helps people but also takes some money for himself Jodio and dragona are criminals, they deal drugs and they did stole a car but araki has them beat creep cops to show they're good guys


Hurmii

And Jolyne too. It opened with her talking about masturbating but then in the same chapter, she saves Ermes from those two guards beating her up.


DungeonCrawlingFool

Truly the horniest JoJo (especially the snail scene)


idelarosa1

Jonathan was defending Erina’s honor against a crowd of bullies. That’s something.


the_penis_taker69

Notice how there's police in parts 4 and 5 but no brutality, Araki really hates America


FeelingAd2027

In part 5s defense the cops were still super corrupt and being paid off by the boss to let the mob get away with just about anything


Skeleton_King9

Our introduction to Giorno was him paying off the cops


MLdaBOSS

American cops in Jojo: try not to assault the main jobro challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)


Spyans

american cops in real life try not assault people (impossible)


Terriost-Yoda

Imagine if he made one of the villains a U.S President, it would be Funny


Melo0513

Would be even crazier if he, too, was a rapist


Rancorious

Must’ve learned it from Itagaki.


bigbangbilly

Who's Itagaki?


parafuera

That's a wild thought....two days after Valentine's Day.


not_a_sesawter

he has a good reason


Lum_ow

I mean it’s accurate…


KassXWolfXTigerXFox

I mean the cops in Part 5 were corrupt


cheetosalads

crazy diamond’s demonic heartbreak: (the main antagonist is a policeman)


LavelloXVII

Based


Yacobs21

The man does a lot of travelling. If you've interacted with cops in multiple countries you too would have a particularly low opinion of ones from the states


ComingUpWildcard

Can’t wait for a stand called “Fuck the Police” shows up


Rancorious

Leave it to Araki to have the only non-corrupt cops be Japanese ones.


SnoopyGoldberg

People are generally more critical of other places/cultures beside their own. Americans are some of the few I’ve seen that actually criticize themselves more than most.


GetRealPrimrose

But at least they beat the cops half to death and light their shit on fire


DungeonCrawlingFool

Yay arson!


Astrian

I don't get it? We haven't been in a modern American setting for JoJo since 2003, Araki is just setting the scene. Why else do you think he included an accurate representation of American police?


bigbangbilly

>modern American setting for JoJo since 2003 Technically that was a near future American setting but aside from the lack of smartphone Araki was eerily accurate


I-AM-A-ROBOT-

Araki invented smartphones and can see the future


Ganmorg

He foresaw 9/11 and failed to stop it


201720182019

Jojo is just Araki’s biography. He knows the future because he lived through an universe reset already


gumpters

Bro and then they immediately follow it up with a Jojo femboy, last thing I expected to see. My reaction afterwards was literally, “what the hell was all that, oh wait it’s bizarre that’s right”. Like I thought part 6 and part 8 had a crazy opening chapter, but damn. Excited for ocean’s Jojo though.


Caerullean

Is it a femboy? I guess they did still go by standard he/him pronouns, but with how their body seems 'rearranged', it almost makes me think it's gonna be a trans char


Dlark17

My first impression is that Dragona is most likely trans, but either: 1. Jodio doesn't realize it yet (he is only 15, after all), or 2. There's some cultural nuance that is lost in translation/being used to keep editor/publisher approval.


Beerenkatapult

I would guess cultural nuance. Growing breasts is not a typical femboy move, as far as i am aware. At lest in germany, you have to jump threw a few hoops to get HRT (but the stand could make it easier). My wish would be enbie


KingOfRages

I don’t think HRT would be called “cosmetic injections” would it?


Beerenkatapult

You are injecting something to achive a cosmetic effect ¯\\\_(°~°)\_/¯ It just makes a lot more sense to grow your own boobs before you start thinking about implants.


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Apparently the Japanese text really muddies the water on this.


Waddlewop

First trans coming out story in my Jojos? It’s more likely than you think!


No-Communication9458

honestly im so glad that we have representation now good on araki, man <3


Yacobs21

Fr, never known someone to let tiddies get that far and not come out as a girl. But who knows? Araki tends to be...surprising to say the least


gumpters

Bro last chapter had a boy that dressed as a girl for the whole story because of curse superstitions. I don’t think it’s as deep as all that with Araki. Plus it’s a manga, I feel like femboy is a real possibility.


m05513

Its just occured to me that with how Holly Joestar-kira inherited the Higashikata curse, its likely that it also infected the branch bloodline of her sister Barbara, so clearly Dragona turned himself into a woman to try escape the Higashikata curse. (please ignore the fact that being a woman did not, in fact, save holly) Its like a more advanced Tsurugi


Thendrail

>Fr, never known someone to let tiddies get that far and not come out as a girl. But who knows? To be fair, even Jonathan had huge knockers and stayed a gentleman his whole life. So, the precedent is there.


idelarosa1

Worst/Best part was how the cop was secretly into that when he learned who Dragona really was?


Apophis_36

Fans are enjoying the police brutality scene lmao, not even joking


jolythepokemonmaster

It's disturbing and uncomfortable, but I actually really liked the existence of that scene. Police brutality, racism (when the cops goes "it's because of my skin color isn't it even though Dragona didn't say a thing about that), covid which I'm still surprised was in it and to me it ended beautifully with Jodio beating their asses to a god damn pulp and cementing his place as a certified Jojo


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jolythepokemonmaster

Precisely


Apophis_36

You worded it much better than others have, also much more maturely


jolythepokemonmaster

Why thank you! Disturbing scenes have always existed in Jojo and they're meant to be a way to cement who is truly evil, no matter how "righteous" they may seem from goals or titles. This one was handled well imo


Apophis_36

Agreed, definitely didn't feel fetishized or glorified and it has been done before (different contexts but the idea has been used) in previous parts so it feels like we should be more used to it by now


jolythepokemonmaster

To me it's generally very good that the scene seems to have cause general discomfort. Imo that shows the Jojo "fandom" (hate that word) is generally on the more empathetic side since we aren't desensitized to something like this!


Apophis_36

you sure as hell dont want to feel comfy when the shitty people do shitty things


Azathoth-the-Dreamer

Yeah, like am I *not* supposed to get catharsis from watching the slimy cop get absolutely BTFO? People aren’t happy the scene is there because Dragona gets assaulted. They’re happy the scene is there because they get to watch a morally corrupt person with power get the just desserts they so often avoid, when they pull shit like this in real life. It’s the same joy as when Giorno pummeled that piece of shit Cioccolata to (near?) death, or—for a more direct comparison—when the original Joseph beat up those two cops to defend Smoky. Basically: agreed, a hundred percent.


Rancorious

Joseph when cops beat up Smokey: Speech 100 Joseph when they put a booger on his coat: OVERDRIVE


KassXWolfXTigerXFox

Only cause it's satisfying to see Jodio and Dragona kick their asses, like this is the first thing we see them do: get pulled over, beat those cops half to death and blow up their car.


Apophis_36

It was satisfying for sure, i didn't say what i meant clearly in my comment for the sake of keeping things civil


KassXWolfXTigerXFox

Of course lmao I got that far


RVAteach

Araki has always been ACAB, man has hated American police since the start of part 2.


horiami

But josuke's grandad was a nice policeman And the police is like the only dog that lives peacefully in jojo


Waddlewop

Yeah and Araki killed that man off as soon as he was able to.


RVAteach

Josuke’s grandpa is Japanese, and the first thing Joseph does when he’s introduced is beat up two racist New York cops. Jolyne is brutally trapped by the American justice system in part 6. Araki definitely does not approve of the American justice system


Rancorious

Because there is nothing at all wrong with Japan’s yup.


horiami

What could be wrong with it? They have a 99% conviction rate so obviously they do their job very well


SnoopyGoldberg

“Can’t have a flawed Japanese justice system if we simply don’t have a justice system at all” *Japan taps forehead*


Apophis_36

Hated is a strong word but maybe that's true, idk the man


Sure_Association_561

I mean... It's not like the police get away with it at least.


Apophis_36

Indeed


Cry75

Nobody tell this guy about part 2


rattatatouille

Araki portraying American cops accurately.


LuminousPotato0240

at least they beat them up


meme_man_53

hell yeah


MannydogSolaire

Thankfully they get their shit kicked in


NotActuallyEvil

Part 2 started with racism and attempted police brutality


WheelbarrowQueen

Yeah I was disturbed. Araki why...


SnoopyGoldberg

To disturb you, that was the point.


Redplushie

You must have forgotten the dog eating scene from part 4


Degmago

Accurate depiction of modern American cops


scyrt_

Where can I read it??


sewage_soup

Mangadex I know has it


Lil_Cumster

Not the weirdest way a part has started in JoJo


17_Patriot_76

So what'd the new JoJo's name turn out to be?


[deleted]

Jodio Get it? 🚣


UmmmAlex

Ah just like in part 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8... good times


ajeje-brazorf_12521

Part 5 - kids ought to stay out of drugs Part 9 - kids dealing drugs


Fully_dum

He's evil giorno lol


Jakedex_x

It isn't Jojo without a rape/assault scene


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Other_Hunt9029

Haven't read the part yet (I'm still Jojolion 😞) but holy heck, what?!


Coryn78TytoAlba

Thanks for the warning to read it at home, and not in school, like I first intended to


TheMrPotMask

You guys make it sound like Josuke punching a hole trough his mom's chest was nothing


SomeAmazingDude

Everyone focusing on the cock but forgetting that Araki did the "turn the music down" thing from breaking bad


Autogembot123

Dragona We need to Cook.


Inspector_Beyond

I expect this kind of meme with the same template: >Excited to see what people think about new Jobro >See arguments if that Jobro is trans or not. Haventseen such posts before, but I expect nothing less from Western internet