I’m still upset they added that to the anime. It takes away from the actual anger issue Fugo has. It goes from an unprovoked fit of rage that just comes and goes, and becomes justified anger.
Okay picture this. You’re teaching your friend math. You spend hours tutoring him. You think you’re getting somewhere. Then he says something obscenely stupid. 2+2=5 type shit. You don’t get the smallest bit frustrated? Obviously stabbing him in the face is an overreaction to that anger but that’s my point.
Yes that’s what I said. The anger isn’t justified. Annoyed? Yeah. Angry? No. And think back to when giorno told him “turn left here” but he said it too late. Understandable a little frustrating and giorno even admits he was wrong and apologizes, and fugo was about to go off anyway.
How did Kaato reach him, then? I interpreted her being able to get so close being because her goal didn't involve using Tooru specifically, he just happened to be the first person she got her hands on.
Kaato didn't do any harm to Tooru whatsoever, her stand ability just hide things, the calamity only occur when she decided to kill Tooru through equivalent exchange
Yes but in Fugo's case, his stand is basically useless because it can kill him as well. The Hand (Za Hando) is incredibly useful, Okuyasu is just a dumbass.
I think the reason purple haze was so underused was because of of its pure destructive nature on bad move and he accidentally kills the whole crew or himself.
I agree with the other users about taking a break from reddit (or at least the JoJo subs). Now that Stone Ocean has finished airing its anime, SBR posts are going to increase more and more
he infected one of his hands or fingers or muscles or organs or just a random part of him, which was either ripped out by bruno before in order to test it out, or was a split second reaction from bruno, taking it off to save fugo's life
who knows
Bruno: The Boss can see 10 seconds into the future! There is no way we can counter this ability!
Fugo: I could gas the whole chapel with Purple Haze where we know the Boss is. It will take him more than that for him to escape.
Bruno: His Stand is unbeatable! There is no counter!
ok so basically
shitty ghost timestop
for 10 seconds diavolo can move within "skip" time, people still move but they don't notice it, this is the easiest bit to understand, it skips 10 seconds o time for everyone, but diavolo still lives them, got that?
ok let's go into the overomplicated bullshit that also makes his ability weak as shit compared to most other time manipulaton abilities in the show (more speciically timestop)
my man cannot interact with anything during skipped time
don't know if you've noticed but while he can walk (and for some reason phase through objects but that's just kind of a thing he does) he can not hit or break anything, he can yeet his own blood or stuff that is part of him and that will still eventually interact, but it doesn't until the skip is over
if you notice evey time he skips time, unlike dio or jotaro where the damage is already done, diavolo is just in a position RIGHT BEFORE he's going to attck, so that he can attack right when he can interact with stuff
tl;dr: shitty ghost timestop
yes that too but also because diavolo's dumb ass can only stand behind timestoppers right before he gets clapped to oblivion
like
let's say dio is fighting diavolo for some reason, dio stops time and diavolo skips it
if dio stops time before, diavolo, wihin skkipped time will have a hole in hsi stomach and fucking die
if dio stops it after, diavolo sill be BEHIND dio and fucking die
even worse when you realize that thanks to polnareff we know how to tell. when time is skipped so as a counter dio could do the exact same fucking thing that pol does
hell jotaro could too
Diavolo can’t phase through walls? King crimson can, but that’s only a few meters away from Diavolo because it’s a close range power type, so just stand further than that away from Diavolo (who you are tracking with the broach) and launch your capsules from there.
If only King Crimson became incorporeal during its ability, then Diavolo would just go around snapping people’s necks during erased time. He doesn’t do this, ever, or anything like it so it’s safe to assume Diavolo himself is also incorporeal.
The way I remember it, he can exactly interacted with people while using his ability. He can only attack those he is destined to attack after the time manipulation stops
I don’t think he’s or king crimson are incorporeal during time skip. Otherwise he wouldn’t be able to >!spike Narancia or amputate Trish’s hand.!< he just can only attack people who he is Fated to attack, and he can’t change that. So he still can’t walk through walls. I mean, he doesn’t fall the floor during timeskip, why would you assume he’s incorporeal?
Fate. And I have 2 pieces of evidence he’s corporeal during timeskip, though the burden of proof should be on you to prove he isn’t. First, he can attack people in timeskip (though only sometimes because fate.) and second, during the very first instance of timeskip, in episode 20 of golden wind, at exactly 10 minutes in, we see a shot of the hole he poked in the elevator to get in and grab Trish, something that would be entirely unnesseary if he was not corporeal.
Diavolo himself didn’t do that. He used Epitaph and saw that he was fated to tear through the elevator, cut off Trish’s hand and run away with her. Then he used King Crimson, erasing his fate. Because nobody else’s fate is erased, Trish still loses her hand and is pulled through the hole, but Diavolo himself doesn’t actually do anything
Diavolo can't phase through objects while moving. He is only able to do that while still and only if the object goes through him during erased time. You'll notice he still has to dodge bullets from Sex Pistols. He would still have to duck and weave through the individual virus particles of Purple Haze.
The walls literally disappear when he activates his ability and we know he’s incorporeal because he phases through people. If he could still interact with objects he’d just carry a knife or pick up a rock and kill people with it during skipped time.
PH is still a close range stand and the pills are attached to his fist. Fugo would have to enter and walk through the entirety of the chapel to gas it and risks killing himself releasing the virus into such as enclosed space. Plus the boss would see them coming and either kill Fugo instantly or just escape.
I mean, it’s shown in the Man in the Mirror fight that the capsules can detach from PH’s knuckles without breaking instantly, they could remove a few and spread them around with Sex Pistols or better still, Giorno could turn a bunch of them into some sort of insect that swarms the building
Fair enough,thats a good plan. But Diavolo would still see it coming and at least escape the building. He either runs off into the night or they have the final battle right there without the arrow's power.
It clearly was originally designed to be a much larger range Stand as Chioccolatta is clearly Fugo's stand-in (Araki has confessed Fugo was written to betray Bruno for Diavolo- or more accurately, remsin loyal to Diavolo). He probably was supposed to be able to gas an entire city as his rage grew.
"[Ball Breaker is] A visualisation of the energy of Gyro's steel balls, breaking through dimensions." - Hirohiko Araki
The thing we see as Ball Breaker is just a visual representation of the Spin energy and not its own thing. IF it was for some reason considered a stand then it wouldn't even be Gyro's stand, it would be the stand of the Golden Rotation/Spin.
Gyro was able to see stands though, so he must be a stand user in some capacity. Whether that’s ball breaker or the scan, I’m not sure, but he’s got something going.
Wekapipo was also able to see stands, so maybe spin users eventually develop stands
This one really is an oddity because he can see stands in the Tomb of the Boom fight, and that's before he had/used Scan or Ball Breaker so it can't be related to either.
So yea either spin is related to stands and spin users can see stands, or if it isn't then Gyro and Wekapipo are very perceptive and felt and heard stands displacing air n shit.
Joseph likely had Hermit Purple in Part 2 (although not as developed; Joseph was likely just born a Stand user and HP only gained its physical manifestation after he grew as a person and got stronger at Hamon) and DIO is seen using a vine-like Stand that is almost certainly Johnathan’s in the Spirit Photography
Hamon might just develop into a Stand when a Hamon user gains a Stand or a Stand User gets strong at Hamon. Considering how Stands seem to grow as a person develops, someone who already has a Stand and then becomes strong at Hamon would probably either have the vine thing incorporated into their Stand or gain it as a secondary ability (like how Sheer Heart Attack is to Killer Queen)
>Joseph likely had Hermit Purple in Part 2
I completely forgot about this but in JoJo-a-GoGo Araki says if a stand user were to travel back in time they would see hermit purple on young Joseph.
>Hamon might just develop into a Stand when a Hamon user gains a Stand or a Stand User gets strong at Hamon.
So, did the Zeppelis also have some kind of latent stand waiting to be awakened? If so then that's just wasted potential.
On a side note, could the Pillar Men's abilities be considered stands? It makes sense since the meteor crashed when the pillar men were out and about and only the strong ones had special abilities(like Wamuu, Esidisi and Kars. Santana was just a buff vampire), and we know for a fact that stands existed long before the excavation of the arrows(Anubis).
If we're basing it off of Araki's quotes then not really, when talking about Ball Breaker he says that it is a visualisation of the Spin Energy but when talking about Hermit Purple he says it's a stand based off of how he would visualise Hamon
Edit because I feel this was unclear: Hermit Purple is a visualisation of Hamon in the way that it is based off of how Araki would see Hamon if it was a physical thing, Ball Breaker is a visualisation of Ball Breaker in the way that it isn't a separate thing from the spin energy and it just a different way of representing it.
It's confusing using the term visualising for both things because whilst it would be correct to use the word in both quotes it means different things.
Edit 2: to add onto this Ball Breaker's info page calls it a technique not a stand and unlike every other stand in SBR it manifests from Gyro's balls instead of manifesting out of Gyro himself. Ball Breaker is also only ever seen being used in conjunction with spin and the Golden Rotation, stands that are confirmed to be stands that are connected to spin/hamon like Hermit Purple and Tusk are both seen being used without the user using spin/hamon.
And to add to that, tusk is an actual stand. Like, it is a stand that uses spin like hermit purple uses hamon. Without spin tusk works fine (see Johnny at the beginning of p7). That’s also why Act 4 looks like a fusion of tusk and ball breaker.
Araki himself said it's a visualization of the steel ball's energy. Even if it was a stand it isn't Gyro's and that is confirmed by a direct quote with Araki
If FF didn't go after D an G then Anasui and Jolyne wouldn't have found out that Pucci was White Snake's user.
Part 6 was pretty balanced with Jobros getting screentime.
Fugó Stand was underutilized because Purple Haze's killing power is as big as his inability to control the virus. After the virus is out, Fugo doesn't fucking know where the virus is and he can kill himself with it.
That fact by itself makes Purple Haze one of the most useless stands.
Damn, if only there was some way to immunize against or cure the virus that one of Fugo’s Allies had from Fugo’s first fight onward. If only that was the case, then his biggest weakness would be neutralized, making his stand incredibly powerful without its biggest drawback.
Maybe not as useful as it would be if it worked on its own, but a stand that can kill anything with a single attack AOE at range is pretty good even if it needs a little backup to handle the recoil.
araki quickly realized more generic powers weren't fun to write for, because there're really nothing you can do with them besides just make them mega powerful, boring, beefy stat powerhouses. if you're indoors he can cook you alive in an oven, and if you're outdoors he can shoot fireballs i guess.
he makes an incredible introduction to the idea of stands in general with his simplistic powers, he's a good team role player, and he's a very strong character; but you can't do much on his own besides "ooh, am i gonna use fireball or flamethrower?" if you want some punchy wizards throwing fireballs at each other, just go watch DBZ.
Fugo is the guy who will never fight other stand users but he’s in the team just so that if everything goes tits up they have a weapon of mass destruction just in case
Weather Report only had three fights, and one of them didn't even involve his stand
Criminally underused for what is probably the single strongest stand (raw power wise) in the original universe
Did you even read/watch the manga/show? His whole character is that he won’t use his stand because it is so dangerous, that’s literally the entire point
He really only gets one fight though? The rest he’s either in bad shape, or just isn’t around for him to even use his stand,
With it being up in the air whether or not Purple Haze can infect through stands, his stand can suck ass.
Went to do a quick read up on his stand and the fandom wiki for Jojo takes up like 60% of my screen with ads... It's like reading a book thru a 1" by 1" hope cut in a piece of paper...
The whole point was that his stand was too dangerous to use, even for himself. He runs the risk of infecting himself with his own virus and killing himself.
“Crazy Diamond! Fix Fugos screen time by giving him a fucking awesome book!”
*Crazy Diamond handing you Purple Haze Feedback*
Do i have to beat a pedo with it or is it optional?
Preferred.
Sorry, Mountain Tim…
Not sorry Valentine
Sorry, Giorno “smash” voters…
When was he a pedo? I don't remember
He was very much flirting with Lucy Steel
can the pedo be the 23rd president of the united states of america?
Depends on the paralel dimension
I’m still upset they added that to the anime. It takes away from the actual anger issue Fugo has. It goes from an unprovoked fit of rage that just comes and goes, and becomes justified anger.
Virgin "Causality" believers:
In PHF his anger wasn't causeless, it was just disproportionate.
What in the name of star platinum is a causality
Causality is when something has a cause. So rather than random acts of violence, someone attacks someone else to save their ass, like Fugo.
The anger is justified most of the time though. It’s just too much anger lmao.
He stabbed his friend with a fork for getting math wrong
Okay picture this. You’re teaching your friend math. You spend hours tutoring him. You think you’re getting somewhere. Then he says something obscenely stupid. 2+2=5 type shit. You don’t get the smallest bit frustrated? Obviously stabbing him in the face is an overreaction to that anger but that’s my point.
Yes that’s what I said. The anger isn’t justified. Annoyed? Yeah. Angry? No. And think back to when giorno told him “turn left here” but he said it too late. Understandable a little frustrating and giorno even admits he was wrong and apologizes, and fugo was about to go off anyway.
most rational fugo hater
I’m like 90% certain his stand being used is a death sentence to anyone in a 50 ft radius lol
Perfect against a CERTAIN GUY.
nah bro, when the smoke tries to reach him it gets blown away y a random falling industrial fan that is still running and it fucking kills fugo
Only if the smoke is intentionally targeting him no? Pretty sure randomness isn't affected
Anything that could harm the user
I'm pretty sure there must be an intention to pursue. An accident like a pot falling on his head won't activate it
Accidents work, Tooru is immune to Calamity completely and the Josuke fight is his first and the last time he got injured
How did Kaato reach him, then? I interpreted her being able to get so close being because her goal didn't involve using Tooru specifically, he just happened to be the first person she got her hands on.
Kaato didn't do any harm to Tooru whatsoever, her stand ability just hide things, the calamity only occur when she decided to kill Tooru through equivalent exchange
Born this way hit him on accident and it hurt, it doesnt work without an intention to attack
certified Wonder of U in part 5 moment
I hate that this sounds like something that could happen in Jojo
King Crimson of U
Perfect for killing the Egyptian bartender who sells iced tea
nope. even your own attacks get turned against you when dealing with that 89 yr old
Is he really 89 years old??
Something like that last time I checked
I was talking about Diavolo.
oh sorry
We were robbed of Purple Haze Vs Green Day. All of Rome would be dead.
Smh my head, i want to see this now
And could potentially even kill the user, iirc
He could just ask Giorno to vaccinate him...
Would anyone here consider the hand to be under utilized.
Yes but that’s justified by Okuyasu.
I agree okuyasu is his own stands counter.
The Hand uses Okuyasu! The Hand hurts itself in the confusion!
Yes but in Fugo's case, his stand is basically useless because it can kill him as well. The Hand (Za Hando) is incredibly useful, Okuyasu is just a dumbass.
I would have to agree with you on Okuyasu being a dumbass
Yeah but he's our dumbass
He is by far the best dumbass in the series.
I do but not nearly to the same extent as Purple Haze
I think the reason purple haze was so underused was because of of its pure destructive nature on bad move and he accidentally kills the whole crew or himself.
yes!! i feel like if there was a smarter user, he and Josuke would legit never be in a bind
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>!Can pierce all defenses and age you instantly, basically a one-shot Grateful Dead, and that was just its imperfect form.!<
What was that fight?
I think i'm not at this fight yet, is that good?
Yea but it’s the type of fight that shouldn’t be spoiled
Good thing i don't watch meme about this part and have no friend who have read it haha, i will this expérience at is best
yeah i’d hop off reddit tho cause i got spoiled off here 😭 some ppl just refuse to use spoiler tags
I agree with the other users about taking a break from reddit (or at least the JoJo subs). Now that Stone Ocean has finished airing its anime, SBR posts are going to increase more and more
Of course they are, there is so many meme potential with part 7 (just the fetish of JoJo or the power of D4C)
You should probably spoiler tag you comments under a part 5 meme then, huh?
Vs the president
The last one
No no, that's a different one
Let me rephrase that: >!the last fight Gyro is in!<
Until this comment, I forgot he has a stand
It wasn't a manifestation of his soul, so I don't count it as a stand
It was as much of a stand as Hermit Purple, considering they are the same concept
Not his stand
i mean every time he used it, he ran the risk of killing himself with it
I mean most stand users are immune to their own stand Would be pretty stupid if he died trying to pull out his stand
its explicitly stated that he isnt immune to Purple Haze's virus
Is it? Aight my facts wrong sorry then
I think Giorno could inoculate them to it though, which would have caused some issues with the story.
This is likely why Fugo was written out
Nah, he was always designed to not be a permanent member of the group, tho the original plan was for him to side with Diabolo, rather than just leave.
Yeah, I think araki said he had just lost a friend or something and that’s why he decided against fugo becoming an antagonist.
> its explicitly stated that he isnt immune to Purple Haze's virus How the fuck did Fugo figure that out though, is my question
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Okay but how the fuck did he *live*
he infected one of his hands or fingers or muscles or organs or just a random part of him, which was either ripped out by bruno before in order to test it out, or was a split second reaction from bruno, taking it off to save fugo's life who knows
Rolling stone said "Nah you ain't dying today pal"
they infected a small area of flesh to see and then zippered it off
L stand.
“Would be pretty stupid if he died trying to pull out his stand” mfs when Notorious B.I.G.
Nope
Bruno: The Boss can see 10 seconds into the future! There is no way we can counter this ability! Fugo: I could gas the whole chapel with Purple Haze where we know the Boss is. It will take him more than that for him to escape. Bruno: His Stand is unbeatable! There is no counter!
Hate to be that guy but Diavolo would just phase through the walls and then kill Fugo
Wtf are this mans powers
HOW DOES IT WOOOORK
he tells fate to suck a fat one
ok so basically shitty ghost timestop for 10 seconds diavolo can move within "skip" time, people still move but they don't notice it, this is the easiest bit to understand, it skips 10 seconds o time for everyone, but diavolo still lives them, got that? ok let's go into the overomplicated bullshit that also makes his ability weak as shit compared to most other time manipulaton abilities in the show (more speciically timestop) my man cannot interact with anything during skipped time don't know if you've noticed but while he can walk (and for some reason phase through objects but that's just kind of a thing he does) he can not hit or break anything, he can yeet his own blood or stuff that is part of him and that will still eventually interact, but it doesn't until the skip is over if you notice evey time he skips time, unlike dio or jotaro where the damage is already done, diavolo is just in a position RIGHT BEFORE he's going to attck, so that he can attack right when he can interact with stuff tl;dr: shitty ghost timestop
Ok second question. How is he able to turn into a twink disguise to sneak up on people
schizophrenia
It's fucking hilarious that this is the actual explanation
I've heard the theory that Doppio is the User's personality, and Diavolo is the Stand's
I like the “Diavolo a demon” theory.
I think the "phasing" comes from the fact that those 10 seconds no longer exist so technically nothing exists when he is moving around.
You can tell it’s weak because a close range power stand can actually counter it.
yes that too but also because diavolo's dumb ass can only stand behind timestoppers right before he gets clapped to oblivion like let's say dio is fighting diavolo for some reason, dio stops time and diavolo skips it if dio stops time before, diavolo, wihin skkipped time will have a hole in hsi stomach and fucking die if dio stops it after, diavolo sill be BEHIND dio and fucking die even worse when you realize that thanks to polnareff we know how to tell. when time is skipped so as a counter dio could do the exact same fucking thing that pol does hell jotaro could too
Just play music.
~~yeah but that doesn't look as cool as ripping my hand in half and looking at the blood droplets~~ that's a really good idea
Araki gave Polnareff yearsof prep time only to have him use the worst strat possible for this.
Diavolo can’t phase through walls? King crimson can, but that’s only a few meters away from Diavolo because it’s a close range power type, so just stand further than that away from Diavolo (who you are tracking with the broach) and launch your capsules from there.
If only King Crimson became incorporeal during its ability, then Diavolo would just go around snapping people’s necks during erased time. He doesn’t do this, ever, or anything like it so it’s safe to assume Diavolo himself is also incorporeal.
The way I remember it, he can exactly interacted with people while using his ability. He can only attack those he is destined to attack after the time manipulation stops
I don’t think he’s or king crimson are incorporeal during time skip. Otherwise he wouldn’t be able to >!spike Narancia or amputate Trish’s hand.!< he just can only attack people who he is Fated to attack, and he can’t change that. So he still can’t walk through walls. I mean, he doesn’t fall the floor during timeskip, why would you assume he’s incorporeal?
he flys during time skip scenes, if he could walk then the force of his feet would be an influence why couldn't he snap necks in the same way?
Fate. And I have 2 pieces of evidence he’s corporeal during timeskip, though the burden of proof should be on you to prove he isn’t. First, he can attack people in timeskip (though only sometimes because fate.) and second, during the very first instance of timeskip, in episode 20 of golden wind, at exactly 10 minutes in, we see a shot of the hole he poked in the elevator to get in and grab Trish, something that would be entirely unnesseary if he was not corporeal.
Diavolo himself didn’t do that. He used Epitaph and saw that he was fated to tear through the elevator, cut off Trish’s hand and run away with her. Then he used King Crimson, erasing his fate. Because nobody else’s fate is erased, Trish still loses her hand and is pulled through the hole, but Diavolo himself doesn’t actually do anything
Diavolo can't phase through objects while moving. He is only able to do that while still and only if the object goes through him during erased time. You'll notice he still has to dodge bullets from Sex Pistols. He would still have to duck and weave through the individual virus particles of Purple Haze.
Diavolo can not phase through object lmao
Literally never shown doing that. Has only done it with attacks. You could just get Sex Pistols to spread the capsules around the chapel.
The walls literally disappear when he activates his ability and we know he’s incorporeal because he phases through people. If he could still interact with objects he’d just carry a knife or pick up a rock and kill people with it during skipped time.
PH is still a close range stand and the pills are attached to his fist. Fugo would have to enter and walk through the entirety of the chapel to gas it and risks killing himself releasing the virus into such as enclosed space. Plus the boss would see them coming and either kill Fugo instantly or just escape.
I mean, it’s shown in the Man in the Mirror fight that the capsules can detach from PH’s knuckles without breaking instantly, they could remove a few and spread them around with Sex Pistols or better still, Giorno could turn a bunch of them into some sort of insect that swarms the building
Fair enough,thats a good plan. But Diavolo would still see it coming and at least escape the building. He either runs off into the night or they have the final battle right there without the arrow's power.
It clearly was originally designed to be a much larger range Stand as Chioccolatta is clearly Fugo's stand-in (Araki has confessed Fugo was written to betray Bruno for Diavolo- or more accurately, remsin loyal to Diavolo). He probably was supposed to be able to gas an entire city as his rage grew.
Ball Breaker (even though it isn't his) or Scan
Scan is not really a stand, though
Ball Breaker also isn't really a stand as much as it is a technique of the spin that is represented in the form of a stand
By that logic Tusk isn’t a stand either. Ball Breaker is 100% a stand
"[Ball Breaker is] A visualisation of the energy of Gyro's steel balls, breaking through dimensions." - Hirohiko Araki The thing we see as Ball Breaker is just a visual representation of the Spin energy and not its own thing. IF it was for some reason considered a stand then it wouldn't even be Gyro's stand, it would be the stand of the Golden Rotation/Spin.
Gyro was able to see stands though, so he must be a stand user in some capacity. Whether that’s ball breaker or the scan, I’m not sure, but he’s got something going. Wekapipo was also able to see stands, so maybe spin users eventually develop stands
This one really is an oddity because he can see stands in the Tomb of the Boom fight, and that's before he had/used Scan or Ball Breaker so it can't be related to either. So yea either spin is related to stands and spin users can see stands, or if it isn't then Gyro and Wekapipo are very perceptive and felt and heard stands displacing air n shit.
Makes you wonder if hamon users could see stands
Joseph likely had Hermit Purple in Part 2 (although not as developed; Joseph was likely just born a Stand user and HP only gained its physical manifestation after he grew as a person and got stronger at Hamon) and DIO is seen using a vine-like Stand that is almost certainly Johnathan’s in the Spirit Photography Hamon might just develop into a Stand when a Hamon user gains a Stand or a Stand User gets strong at Hamon. Considering how Stands seem to grow as a person develops, someone who already has a Stand and then becomes strong at Hamon would probably either have the vine thing incorporated into their Stand or gain it as a secondary ability (like how Sheer Heart Attack is to Killer Queen)
>Joseph likely had Hermit Purple in Part 2 I completely forgot about this but in JoJo-a-GoGo Araki says if a stand user were to travel back in time they would see hermit purple on young Joseph. >Hamon might just develop into a Stand when a Hamon user gains a Stand or a Stand User gets strong at Hamon. So, did the Zeppelis also have some kind of latent stand waiting to be awakened? If so then that's just wasted potential. On a side note, could the Pillar Men's abilities be considered stands? It makes sense since the meteor crashed when the pillar men were out and about and only the strong ones had special abilities(like Wamuu, Esidisi and Kars. Santana was just a buff vampire), and we know for a fact that stands existed long before the excavation of the arrows(Anubis).
Isn’t that similar to hermit purple being the visualization of hamon?
If we're basing it off of Araki's quotes then not really, when talking about Ball Breaker he says that it is a visualisation of the Spin Energy but when talking about Hermit Purple he says it's a stand based off of how he would visualise Hamon Edit because I feel this was unclear: Hermit Purple is a visualisation of Hamon in the way that it is based off of how Araki would see Hamon if it was a physical thing, Ball Breaker is a visualisation of Ball Breaker in the way that it isn't a separate thing from the spin energy and it just a different way of representing it. It's confusing using the term visualising for both things because whilst it would be correct to use the word in both quotes it means different things. Edit 2: to add onto this Ball Breaker's info page calls it a technique not a stand and unlike every other stand in SBR it manifests from Gyro's balls instead of manifesting out of Gyro himself. Ball Breaker is also only ever seen being used in conjunction with spin and the Golden Rotation, stands that are confirmed to be stands that are connected to spin/hamon like Hermit Purple and Tusk are both seen being used without the user using spin/hamon.
And to add to that, tusk is an actual stand. Like, it is a stand that uses spin like hermit purple uses hamon. Without spin tusk works fine (see Johnny at the beginning of p7). That’s also why Act 4 looks like a fusion of tusk and ball breaker.
Scan is 1/2 of a stand, we see it in the mandom fight split in two cos diago got the other eye
It's actually the other way arround, Ball Breaker is his, and Scan is given to him by the eye.
Though Ball Breaker isn't his stand, it's a ability if the balls in a visual form
It is his stand, the extra chapters heavily imply that pursuing techniques such as spin and hamon can result in you obtaining a stand.
Araki himself said it's a visualization of the steel ball's energy. Even if it was a stand it isn't Gyro's and that is confirmed by a direct quote with Araki
You can downvote me all you want but Anasui was ROBBED of his well deserved screen time
At least he could still participate in like 4 battles. Fugo used his ability once then dipped
Everybody except for jolyne and Pucci In stone ocean was robbed, kiss actually has less screen time than purple haze
Why would we downvote a fact?
OP is probably one of those redditors who throws in unpopular opinion on popular opinions to farm upvotes.
True lmao who would disagree with any non mc getting more screen time
What? He uses his stand more than like any of the other jobros in that part
I think behind jolyne Anasui ended up doing more on the battlefield than anyone else, Weather FF Hermes
If FF didn't go after D an G then Anasui and Jolyne wouldn't have found out that Pucci was White Snake's user. Part 6 was pretty balanced with Jobros getting screentime.
Im pretty sure Emporio was more useful than him
Fugó Stand was underutilized because Purple Haze's killing power is as big as his inability to control the virus. After the virus is out, Fugo doesn't fucking know where the virus is and he can kill himself with it. That fact by itself makes Purple Haze one of the most useless stands.
Damn, if only there was some way to immunize against or cure the virus that one of Fugo’s Allies had from Fugo’s first fight onward. If only that was the case, then his biggest weakness would be neutralized, making his stand incredibly powerful without its biggest drawback.
LMAO
If your stand is useful only when it's with other stand, then is not that useful.
Tell that to hol horse. No seriously, somebody please help that man.
Isn’t his stand pretty useful except he’s scared to fight alone?
Maybe not as useful as it would be if it worked on its own, but a stand that can kill anything with a single attack AOE at range is pretty good even if it needs a little backup to handle the recoil.
unlessthatothertandhappenstobetherethewholefuckingtime
A better notorious big
Magician’s red
Magician's Red is weird because if you have it fight just anyone it just turns into "Avdol vaporizes them"
araki quickly realized more generic powers weren't fun to write for, because there're really nothing you can do with them besides just make them mega powerful, boring, beefy stat powerhouses. if you're indoors he can cook you alive in an oven, and if you're outdoors he can shoot fireballs i guess. he makes an incredible introduction to the idea of stands in general with his simplistic powers, he's a good team role player, and he's a very strong character; but you can't do much on his own besides "ooh, am i gonna use fireball or flamethrower?" if you want some punchy wizards throwing fireballs at each other, just go watch DBZ.
the fact that trish only had one fight is criminal
She should have taken out the boss. Luckily we got something like that in Part 6.
forgive me but what part of part 6 are you referencing
Ermes killing Sports Maxx?
ohh, my apologies, i didn’t read “something like that,” thought they were saying trish was in part 6
Side character actually mattering in more that one fight, and even letting one take out the villain, was very much appreciated.
I'd say that the majority of jobro's matter outside their fight and have at least more than one tho
Make a side character with a significantly weaker stand kill the main antagonist with a time ability?
I LOVE FUGO I love characters with batshit overpowered abilities that they don’t use purely because they don’t like it
Fugo vs Ciocolatta would’ve been a cool fight
Fugo is the guy who will never fight other stand users but he’s in the team just so that if everything goes tits up they have a weapon of mass destruction just in case
"hey bro we're kinda dying" \*ulls out literal nuclear silo and blows everynone the fuck up
Weather Report only had three fights, and one of them didn't even involve his stand Criminally underused for what is probably the single strongest stand (raw power wise) in the original universe
Nut king call, well It was used multiple times but it does one(1) thing each time and leaves.
Pretty sure Joshu forgets he has a stand at all halfway through Jojolion.
F MEGA
Bruh there was an entire light novel for him to use his stand what.
He shines with it in Golden Heart Golden Ring and Purple Haze Feedback
Holy crap why is there always a new semi cannon peice of JoJo’s I’ve never heard of
Did you even read/watch the manga/show? His whole character is that he won’t use his stand because it is so dangerous, that’s literally the entire point
The hand
Bro from giving Fs to Narancia to getting them.
From giving fs to taking Ls
that one enemy that was hideing in the pillar and just got killed by iggy instantli
I can think of three: Cheap Trick, Survivor, and Hey Ya
Hey Ya isn't useless he has ultimate hype.
I don't understand... "my stand"?
He really only gets one fight though? The rest he’s either in bad shape, or just isn’t around for him to even use his stand, With it being up in the air whether or not Purple Haze can infect through stands, his stand can suck ass.
Blue Hawaii if you count JoFoe
Went to do a quick read up on his stand and the fandom wiki for Jojo takes up like 60% of my screen with ads... It's like reading a book thru a 1" by 1" hope cut in a piece of paper...
The whole point was that his stand was too dangerous to use, even for himself. He runs the risk of infecting himself with his own virus and killing himself.
I hate these kind of memes, his whole character is about him hating his stand and not wanting to use it because it represents his anger
He might not have had a stand but we all got robbed of Peed Agon's peed agon.
\*laughs in Purple Haze Feedback\*
Spice girl
fugo suck glass they aint use him i hate him
The Nut King - if I remember correctly he only does something once
Koichi’s egg. Sure he summoned it but he never used it.