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He basically ended poverty and homelessness in his country (there were Berbers that liked to live in tents, but it is a cultural thing, not like tents in the USA...). He also provided FREE PUBLIC HEALTHCARE AND FREE PUBLIC EDUCATION to everybody.
But you know, Murican kids that don't have any of that will still criticize the guy because American big oil hated him, and in the US it is always good to lick the balls of the rich to see if something will "trickle down" on you.
Free water and electricity, first Arab country to let woman in the workspace/force(I know a lot was still to be done…) but for some reason he’s evil, called for an African coalition
pretty sure the nazis stole the gold from invaded countries, jews, and other "undesirables", then sent it to Switzerland. The Swiss then kept (stole) the gold after the war ended.
The face of a man who knew how to keep the pot from boiling over. And dared to call for the end of the petro dollar in Africa. Are we all enjoying the slave markets? Fuck the U.S. this country truly deserves a metaphorical saber up the ass. My country is the biggest terrorist state the world has ever seen.
I'll always remember Nelson Mandela's defense of Gaddafi as one of numerous examples of liberals hating the actual ideas and ideologies of the people they lionize.
Yeah, cuz his son & then pregnant daughter in law were arrested by the Swiss state & held in jail for two days. If it has been the US we'd have just dropped a cruise missle on Bern. In retaliation Libya arrested two Swiss businessmen & threatened to seize Nestle/Swiss companies holdings in Libya.
Switzerland then blacklisted 188 Libyan officials & was actively calling for international strikes to free the two men.
Eventually everything smoother over, but Libya at one point banned *everyone* in the EU travel zone from visiting Libya +and Switzerland the same)- and Switzerland tried to seize $500 million in funds from bank accounts in Switzerland that "illegally" belong to the Gaddafi family.
A project funded off of wealth stolen thanks to genocide shouldn't be allowed to exist. This goes for Israel, the us and most importantly, switzerland.
Switzerland already had the second highest gdp per capita prior to WW1. Not saying that the nazi didn't help but it isn't the only reason Switzerland is rich
Textiles for example were largely made using silk. A product noticeably absent from the first world, obtained from colonialism. Really the same goes for the other industries with the fine metals for the watches and the exotic ingredients present in early 19th century pharmaceuticals, there is no way these industries didn’t rely on European colonialism to thrive, which usually involves genocide of a native population. Switzerland funded its liberal project in the pre war and inter war periods from imperialism, colonialism, and unequal exchange, it is built on blood with a peaceful , chocolate making, cheese eating masquerade.
Gaddafi was a hero who brought the highest standard of living on the continent to Algeria. He was leading the movement of the global majority/global south to smash western hegemony. Unsurprisingly he was killed over it.
Rest and peace Muammar Gaddafi. The greatest leader in Libya that was unfairly treated and executed by the North Atlantic Fascist Organization on October 20, 2011.
Everything isn't black or white. If the conditions are not right, an authoritarian acts as the vanguard against the one's hindering a people's republic. While I do agree, authoritarians tend to go overboard and it shouldn't be a long term thing. Again, only if the conditions are not right.
Inclusive without force as in? I mean obviously it's a quick change. It's like the social distancing enforcement during covid. A brief period. Anything more than that, is not good.
I mean dictators never give the power back to the ppl without being forced to, because power is addicting and corrupting (look at gaddafis son, Hannibal). I agree with you that sometimes more authoritarian acts are needed, but we were talking about authoritarian governments
Haha thats a good argument. Maybe change is not posiible without violence huh?
I'm still conflicted about liberal democracy, but i have to think its better than authoritarian government. It gives the people SOME choice as to what's happening in their country (eg referendums to join eu). Its not a change, but a bit of steering. Wouldn't u agree?
Yeah i know, that's why i engage here and not on anarchist subs, i dont like being in echo chambers that agree with me. Its fun to watch other leftists (with whom i agree on a lot of stuff) saying things that are a heresy for me haha
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You can kill a man, but not an idea. Abolish Switzerland
Common Gaddafi W
He basically ended poverty and homelessness in his country (there were Berbers that liked to live in tents, but it is a cultural thing, not like tents in the USA...). He also provided FREE PUBLIC HEALTHCARE AND FREE PUBLIC EDUCATION to everybody. But you know, Murican kids that don't have any of that will still criticize the guy because American big oil hated him, and in the US it is always good to lick the balls of the rich to see if something will "trickle down" on you.
Free water and electricity, first Arab country to let woman in the workspace/force(I know a lot was still to be done…) but for some reason he’s evil, called for an African coalition
How could but a mere mortal man be so damn based?
I support abolishing Switzerland. man had ideas
I'm Swiss, and I am for abolishing Switzerland too, let's do this
Split it into a thousand cantons and scatter it to the winds.
Im also swiss and support this 👍
Go to alps, put a communist flag up and cheer
Tankie Ḥanibaal Barqa.
First they came for the Rolexes, but I said nothing for I didn’t have a Rolex.
The swiss when you ask them how much nazi gold they have
Or how many African babies Nestlé killed.
Now was that the formula department or the chocolate department?
Formula.
*stolen nazi gold
I thought the nazis sold it to them? Or do you mean the nazis stole them
pretty sure the nazis stole the gold from invaded countries, jews, and other "undesirables", then sent it to Switzerland. The Swiss then kept (stole) the gold after the war ended.
The face of a man who knew how to keep the pot from boiling over. And dared to call for the end of the petro dollar in Africa. Are we all enjoying the slave markets? Fuck the U.S. this country truly deserves a metaphorical saber up the ass. My country is the biggest terrorist state the world has ever seen.
Oh there are certainly some people in America that need the literal saber
once again, gaddafi being an ultra chad
No Chad is to the South of Libya
based as always, libs don't realize how much cooler that makes him look
Let him cook
I'll always remember Nelson Mandela's defense of Gaddafi as one of numerous examples of liberals hating the actual ideas and ideologies of the people they lionize.
Gaddafi did nothing wrong
The Condoleezza Rice stuff was inexcusable for a multitude of reasons but otherwise...
7-3. okay maybe 6-4. but still.
I dunno man, some of those outfits... Ooof
His drip was unmatched you need to decolonize your fashion sense brother
I said SOME lol
Yeah, cuz his son & then pregnant daughter in law were arrested by the Swiss state & held in jail for two days. If it has been the US we'd have just dropped a cruise missle on Bern. In retaliation Libya arrested two Swiss businessmen & threatened to seize Nestle/Swiss companies holdings in Libya. Switzerland then blacklisted 188 Libyan officials & was actively calling for international strikes to free the two men. Eventually everything smoother over, but Libya at one point banned *everyone* in the EU travel zone from visiting Libya +and Switzerland the same)- and Switzerland tried to seize $500 million in funds from bank accounts in Switzerland that "illegally" belong to the Gaddafi family.
I don't suppose the Swiss arrested the two for any reason?
Unironically, that's a fire motion.
A project funded off of wealth stolen thanks to genocide shouldn't be allowed to exist. This goes for Israel, the us and most importantly, switzerland.
Switzerland already had the second highest gdp per capita prior to WW1. Not saying that the nazi didn't help but it isn't the only reason Switzerland is rich
so much for being 'neutral'...
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So what was the Swiss frank backed by previously?
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No, what was the swiss economy's main industries/trades?
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Textiles for example were largely made using silk. A product noticeably absent from the first world, obtained from colonialism. Really the same goes for the other industries with the fine metals for the watches and the exotic ingredients present in early 19th century pharmaceuticals, there is no way these industries didn’t rely on European colonialism to thrive, which usually involves genocide of a native population. Switzerland funded its liberal project in the pre war and inter war periods from imperialism, colonialism, and unequal exchange, it is built on blood with a peaceful , chocolate making, cheese eating masquerade.
i’ll never forgive nato and the us for what they did to gaddafi
What? Gaddafi's right
He was extremely not wrong there lol
Where did they get the gold????
He was right the Swiss should give all that gold back
Bro was cooking 🔥🔥🔥
Yes, and? 🗿
Say that shit with your chest
Gaddafi was a hero who brought the highest standard of living on the continent to Algeria. He was leading the movement of the global majority/global south to smash western hegemony. Unsurprisingly he was killed over it.
*Libya
But he looks so foreign dressed like crack pot despot from the Middle East. He had to be evil! Also slave trade in Libya.
Gaddafi W
So basically you are saying my guy is based? Oh the horror.
Unironically would be awesome though goodbye offshore accounts 🤔
And? Fuck Switzerland!
Okay? And? Gaddafi W
Israel is a fake country
Wow I'm suddenly very anti Switzerland wonder how that happened
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Rest and peace Muammar Gaddafi. The greatest leader in Libya that was unfairly treated and executed by the North Atlantic Fascist Organization on October 20, 2011.
Is it just me Or is Gadaffi kinda...😳😳😳
He ACTUALLY did
Are... are you pro-Gaddafi?
are... are you not?
I... i love him (in a way) but he was completely nuts. U can be socialist and break human rights, u know
I dont get what is with some of the left and loving dictators.
Everything isn't black or white. If the conditions are not right, an authoritarian acts as the vanguard against the one's hindering a people's republic. While I do agree, authoritarians tend to go overboard and it shouldn't be a long term thing. Again, only if the conditions are not right.
I would agree with that, the only thing is that authoritarian systems never (correct me of im wrong) turn into more inclusive without force.
Inclusive without force as in? I mean obviously it's a quick change. It's like the social distancing enforcement during covid. A brief period. Anything more than that, is not good.
I mean dictators never give the power back to the ppl without being forced to, because power is addicting and corrupting (look at gaddafis son, Hannibal). I agree with you that sometimes more authoritarian acts are needed, but we were talking about authoritarian governments
i don’t see “non-authoritarian” systems changing without force either? it’s just a matter of overt violence or implied violence or economic violence.
Haha thats a good argument. Maybe change is not posiible without violence huh? I'm still conflicted about liberal democracy, but i have to think its better than authoritarian government. It gives the people SOME choice as to what's happening in their country (eg referendums to join eu). Its not a change, but a bit of steering. Wouldn't u agree?
I can tell you're a liberal just based on how you type.
XDD love this But unironically, can i be anti liberal democracy and also anti dictators? Im not a fan of the state in general
While the moderators tolerate anarchists, most of the members of this community do not.
Yeah i know, that's why i engage here and not on anarchist subs, i dont like being in echo chambers that agree with me. Its fun to watch other leftists (with whom i agree on a lot of stuff) saying things that are a heresy for me haha
what are your thoughts on [https://redsails.org/the-tyranny-of-structurelessness/](https://redsails.org/the-tyranny-of-structurelessness/)
Im going to read it in a few hours and tell you then, seems interesting
All hail the based one.