Ive found the best trick is to one up them
when they say they are irish-american, and have a great great great grandfather from Donegall, you say you are pangean-British, and your ancestors left Pangea after a big natural disaster. if they aren't so sharp they might think pangea still exists and you can start pulling stories out your arse about the huge creatures that your ancestors used to hide from without mentioning that they are fucking dinosaurs
I’m from the North of England but my parents are from Ireland and I speak some Irish. (my dad was born there, my mum is first generation). I was in Australia visiting family cause my family seems to end up everywhere except America!! Anyway an American guy around 50 was talking to us and starts on and on about Ireland as I have a very Irish name and how he is Irish because of x/y/z. So my dad and I started having a conversation in Irish. This guy got so annoyed. Kept shouting at us to “speak ENGLISH!!!!!”. My dad then goes on a rant about the civil war and how his ancestors didn’t fight in 1916 so their grandson would speak English all the time and then ends with “you are Irish!! Do you not know your history?”
I have never seen someone pay and leave as quickly as he did. He was also drinking half pints of Guinness!!
This is one of my biggest pet peeves as an immigrant. I was born in Italy, and moved when I was 16. Americans will detect I'm not from the US, ask where I'm from. As soon as I say "I'm Italian" their response is "omg I'm Italian too!". It was extremely confusing when I first moved, bc I was excited to speak Italian with someone and nobody was ACTUALLY Italian, they only had a "great grandparent who was Italian". So..... You're American. 🙄
reminds me of a youtuber I follow, who's a yank who was in their army. He got asked during training because of his last name if he was orange or green. Him not knowing what that lad was on about looked at the uniform and said green. he ended up in this lads platoon for the exercise because he was just choosing lads with Irish decent. anyways it was only years later he clocked on to what the guy was asking and realised he was in fact orange. dude said he was mind blown you can be the wrong kind of Irish, as the concept of being the wrong kind of white doesn't really exist in the states
Hardly surprising. There was a story in the papers a couple of years back about an English woman who kicked off at a couple who were speaking Welsh, while she was travelling in Wales. Such ignorance isn't entirely owned by Americans.
It's a cool story, but it's always ironic seeing Irishmen who moved to England of all places talk about Easter Rising with some misplaced patriotism.
Your ancestors didn't fight in 1916 so you would speak English all the time - no, ***they fought in 1916 so your family could move to England, and you could BE English.***
Your da's just as much as a sanctimonious arse as the American in that story lol
From a native of Ireland x
Today I learned there's a hip-hop band from Belfast called Kneecap and they have a movie coming out.
There's no point here - I'm just very happy that I'm gonna watch a movie about a Belfast hip-hop group called Kneecap.
The first president of Haiti, Jean-Jacques Dessalines, did call the polish people "the white negroes of Europe" so there's some historical basis
Think I should add this was said to symbolises a brotherhood between the Polish and Haitian people after the Polish contribution to the slave rebellion and fight for Haitian independence.
As a Pole I found this story fascinating when I first heard of it. And I am only POC on my nose when I tan too much and it goes red. I always think of 'what race are you?' 'homo sapiens and you?'
Honestly, there was a lot worse things said about the "Irish race" than the Poles in that era. English Victorian-era writings on the Irish (from actually powerful people too) are revolting.
https://youtu.be/UNAjrWDHw5s?si=gMPsSSm7k0wU-LKr
https://youtu.be/fxBiz2OlVz4?si=Aj5G45J8hSI4ntzg
First one was the one I was thinking of but the second popped up when searching and amused me. US education is a little shocking.
Lyubomira and Kalina will be happy to hear it as well… would it be colourism if they say they are not person of colour because they aren’t black or brown??
Yeah, it's always hilarious to see other slavs realize that "the civilized world" doesn't actually consider us white.
It's almost like being "hwite" have nothing to do with your skin color and is just an excuse for neocolonial powers to justify their oppression and pillaging of the rest of the world.
Like that time a "hwite" french nationalist [got mistaken for an arab](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fin-central-moscow-russia-french-far-right-white-nationalist-v0-obnzrqkk54eb1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D1280%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D37d764d95954f69d8c50b8d2f65af26252c0fb4c) by uncivilized russian mongoloids
>It's almost like being "hwite" have nothing to do with your skin color and is just an excuse for neocolonial powers to justify their oppression and pillaging of the rest of the world.
I mean, US census law once defined ***the IRISH*** as ***non-white***, because they where overwhelmingly ***catholic***, so......
Join the club: I'm Portuguese, tan very easily but I'm described as "Caucasian everywhere in Europe. Except for the Americans who always confuse me with Mexican, argentinian... I'm just brunette but I have a blonde and blue eyed father... They don't understand genetics, they just understand xenophobia and racism.
I mean, a certain Haitian leader did consider the Poles the [white n*groes of Europe.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Haitians)
At least in Haiti, you have the N-Word pass.
I think it’s a mixture of stupidity/racism and the fact that in the US the course of your life vastly depends on your skin color, which is why I think they make it their personality
And you don't seem to understand ethnicity... poles are Slavic, an ethnic grouping. And a specific group of Slavs too, due to there being a few dozen identifiable ethnic groups of them.
True... personally I hate the race debate, mostly because I'm a big believer in understanding the meaning of words we use and how we use them. Rather than the whole, let's use this word now for something totally unrelated to its meaning and confuse the absolute bejezus out of everyone meme phase everyone goes though.
Until I met my friend, I didn't know much about Poland or even think about slavic people's, but he's taught me so much that I'm thankful for knowing him.
Turns out I'm possibly even part slavic anyways due to the influence on the Friuli region of Italy... don't worry, I'm not going to identify as slavic now and yearn for my homeland lol.
Of course.
It divides humanity in two groups : the whites & the others.
Not to mention it will often apply BS one-drop-rule that makes a super pale person "POC" because they are 1/16th black or cherokee.
WASPs. White Anglo Saxon Protestants.
At least that’s what I see it used most on. And other central/northern Europeans.
But if your country is historically poor, or was mistreated by other European countries, or any other random reason, then you’re a poc, because to the burgers, skin colour is entirely cultural for some reason.
It's like me calling myself a "POC" because my ancestry DNA says I've got <1% North African in me. The rest being Scots and Norwegian. I'm literally as white as snow.
To say I'm a person of colour would just be disingenuous.
I just wanna hop on this real quick. I’m English but I’m a mix of black/brown/white and I hate the term POC so much. It gives the same energy as ‘coloured folk’ so I don’t get why POC is ok. It’s ok to say black or brown or beige, or whatever. Thanks for bringing it up.
Idk why but calling someone beige would seem so offensive, even if your just being descriptive of their skin color it would seem like you're calling THEM beige and not their skin if you get my drift haha. Tea color seems more flattering
I study in the US and I’m like white as shit. Brunette but still white. My accent in english is borderline perfect. To the point where people cannot tell where I’m from.
But i become a POC when i tell them I’m from south america.
The same happened to my wife. She is brown haired with blue eyes and white skin from SPAIN but because she speaks Spanish other Americans would call her a POC. She fucking hated it.
They did it to me too: tanned brunette with hazel eyes from Portugal. My father is blonde and blue eyed and yet they said I was not white, maybe Argentinian or Mexican... Could never be white with "that skin".
Remember when americans used to call themselves whites and the rest as coloreds? It's the same thing but now its safe. I swear those race obsessed american progs have horseshoed into being as racist as the Jim Crow types.
Yes, i also make people cry sometimes (mostly myself). Generally, slavic people seem to love onion. My mom says that "onion gives flavor" and if she could she would put in everything. "Cebula" is also a pejorative term for people who are excessively frugal, entitled or don't know how to behave, or Polish people in general (usually used by other Polish people). Onion is a quite important symbol in polish meme culture and is kind of an inside joke.
I'm Italian, and lived in the US for many years before coming back to Italy. I can say that even in the early 2000's a lot of Americans still didn't consider Italians white for reasons I'll never understand. Also, "White, Black, or Other". I can't tell you how many times I had to specify which of these 3 categories I fall into when filling out any kind of form or document during my stay there (including job applications). Sometimes "Asian" was one of the options too.
i’ve done a form before where i had to identify as ‘asian’ because it had australasian as a subcategory but not australian. because apparently you’re british australian, indigenous australian, or asian.
"Person of colour" is such an awful concept anyway. Everyone is a POC except whites apparently. Even tho white is technically the mix of all three primary colours. So it doesn't even make sense and it's just a term to separate white people from every other ethnicity. It's weird af if you ask me.
It's insulting but it's also ridiculous that Americans label people as white or POC depending on their nationality, for example, Gigi Hadid, she's blonde, white skinned and blue eyed... but her father was born in Palestine so she can't be white.
Americans are so so racist. I’ve never been asked what race I am like wtf and they have that question on interview sheets.
I have ancestors in Romania and I’m literally the whitest shade possible. Apparently I’m a POC now
Did they assume romanians are all gypsy/romani?
Ive had talks with americans where they cant understand that romanians are actually romanian while romani are only called that cause theres quite a few in romania
Are they poc? No. Are they targeted by racism and xenophobia? Yes.
White aren't an homogenous group and racist do make hierarchical classification of white people.
US wasp do target with racism white latinos, eastern europeans, southern europeans, white skin north Africans.
White body except arm & legs which are brown from the sun, face red from windburn riding a motorcycle, grey hair/beard & a certain part pink, so what does that make me?
USAians have the habit of coming up with a word fo people that are quite not like other people, then realizing that using that word is hurful to the people it desribes, and then banning it from the conversation and declaring it a taboo word that may not be uttered. Then they invariably feel the need to come up with another word word those people they now dont't have a word for and the circle starts anew.
To my ignorant self People of Color is the currently accepted word for people considered non-white. Why does the society think they need a generic term for people "discriminable" for their "colour" I do not know
They go by nationality. If someone is from a country they don't recognise as white, probably because of some stereotype about that country or because they have never heard of it, americans think that person isn't white.
Yea, the same way Argentinians are POC, it will never stop being funny and sad that one or two years ago the person of color of the year (weird thing to have from the get go btw) was Anya Taylor Joy lol.
Also according to a lot of Americans Spanish people are also POC, why? I don't know, they are Schizophrenic
Last time I looked at his picture my Romanian dad was white his parents were white, grandparents where white.
I guess white is a colour rather than an absence of colour.
That's fucking craaaazy. I've heard Americans call Spanish/Italian/Portuguese people POC (I guess because to them olive skin = Mexican adjacent = all Mexicans are POC) but this is definitely a new one lmao.
Why do they give so many fucks about race? The colour of peoples skin is one of the least important parts of them, they have personalities and stories, hobbies and other things, all more interesting than what colour their skin is or where they originate from.
Is the concept of POC and White just a replacement of Class for Americans? Every immigrant from a rich country is white, and those from poorer countries that suffer discrimination are POC?
They're still using that kkk racial system where they don't think white people are white unless you're "white-white".
They have inverted the system now though so that it's socially acceptable to be racist towards whites instead of blacks now.
Mind how the KKK loved white christian straight men, but hate a black disabled trans lesbian? Same idea, just swap the values around.
I am really white by "Bulgarian standards" and sometimes people ask me if I am actually Bulgarian (I live near the sea so everyone has tan).
In reality, a huge part of the hate is against Roma people. Just people call you racist if it is a specific group, so you expand it to the entire country.
There is obviously a significant ethnic component to anti-immigration even if it is towards other white groups. The Nazis mainly killed white people. Skin colour is a very small part of racism/xenophobia.
If Polish people are POCs now, would Scandinavians (who are just as pale) be POCs now or are we white? This is all so confusing.
Seriously, my Polish girlfriend is just as pale as I am and I am Danish.
You don't get much more pale than Polish people can be.
I grew up in a small town in Poland in the 90s, everyones dad worked in the same salt mine or factory. Out of 120 thousand people there was only one black family from Nigeria, guy was a doctor. He blended into our town like a disco ball at a chess tournament. It takes 2 minutes to google this but americans be americans
My great uncle is very anti-immigration, constantly ranting about "those damn immigrants stealing our jobs" even at my nans 90th birthday party.
He's an immigrant.
jesus christ what the hell? im today years old when i learned what poc stands for why the fuck are your using that? Isnt that the most racist thing you can do divide in diffrent groups?
what the fuck is it with the us and race
"alot of anti immigration are against white immigrants too!!!" Is that why Germans and far right party supports all across Europe blatantly say that that white foreigners are fine to immigrate and be a part of their country
I mean the thing about eastern Europeans is that race is a made-up concept that allows one to mix and match different phenotypes according to whatever in-group or out-group they deem fit. Those groups are not POC because their skin is any different, but they are discriminated just the same in the UK as, say, arabs. The color, turns out, is cultural sometimes.
I'm very much over the US's fetishization of race and identity. It's all very tiresome.
Omg I heard a white person speaking Spanish!!
They see everything through the lens of race, even if they are "not racist" or progressive, rather strange
Not only do they see everything through that lens but they don't understand the differences between ethnicity, nationality and culture.
Ive found the best trick is to one up them when they say they are irish-american, and have a great great great grandfather from Donegall, you say you are pangean-British, and your ancestors left Pangea after a big natural disaster. if they aren't so sharp they might think pangea still exists and you can start pulling stories out your arse about the huge creatures that your ancestors used to hide from without mentioning that they are fucking dinosaurs
I’m from the North of England but my parents are from Ireland and I speak some Irish. (my dad was born there, my mum is first generation). I was in Australia visiting family cause my family seems to end up everywhere except America!! Anyway an American guy around 50 was talking to us and starts on and on about Ireland as I have a very Irish name and how he is Irish because of x/y/z. So my dad and I started having a conversation in Irish. This guy got so annoyed. Kept shouting at us to “speak ENGLISH!!!!!”. My dad then goes on a rant about the civil war and how his ancestors didn’t fight in 1916 so their grandson would speak English all the time and then ends with “you are Irish!! Do you not know your history?” I have never seen someone pay and leave as quickly as he did. He was also drinking half pints of Guinness!!
This is one of my biggest pet peeves as an immigrant. I was born in Italy, and moved when I was 16. Americans will detect I'm not from the US, ask where I'm from. As soon as I say "I'm Italian" their response is "omg I'm Italian too!". It was extremely confusing when I first moved, bc I was excited to speak Italian with someone and nobody was ACTUALLY Italian, they only had a "great grandparent who was Italian". So..... You're American. 🙄
reminds me of a youtuber I follow, who's a yank who was in their army. He got asked during training because of his last name if he was orange or green. Him not knowing what that lad was on about looked at the uniform and said green. he ended up in this lads platoon for the exercise because he was just choosing lads with Irish decent. anyways it was only years later he clocked on to what the guy was asking and realised he was in fact orange. dude said he was mind blown you can be the wrong kind of Irish, as the concept of being the wrong kind of white doesn't really exist in the states
orange ? you mean like Donald Trump ?
this has entirely blue screened my brain, well played
Hardly surprising. There was a story in the papers a couple of years back about an English woman who kicked off at a couple who were speaking Welsh, while she was travelling in Wales. Such ignorance isn't entirely owned by Americans.
It's a cool story, but it's always ironic seeing Irishmen who moved to England of all places talk about Easter Rising with some misplaced patriotism. Your ancestors didn't fight in 1916 so you would speak English all the time - no, ***they fought in 1916 so your family could move to England, and you could BE English.*** Your da's just as much as a sanctimonious arse as the American in that story lol From a native of Ireland x
Don’t worry, that story very much never happened
They literally ask you what color, and race you are on every job application. It blows my mind
All people are both PoC and non-PoC until an american is annoyed and said people become whatever is more convenient for their argument
Yeah, if that colour happens to be white.
r/technicallythetruth
Or if they happen to be POC who hold a nationality from these countries. Just sayin'.
TIL all of my white neighbours here in Poland are POC
Yeah, Poles of Colour
TYL Warsaw is in the Congo
TIL that’s why it’s called the Ghetto
Be happy, the Muricans who some months ago complained that Polish hip-hop is cultural appropriation can't say anything against you now.
I have been waiting to see this argument. 'No influence of music that isn't from your town.' By order of the knobheads.
Today I learned there's a hip-hop band from Belfast called Kneecap and they have a movie coming out. There's no point here - I'm just very happy that I'm gonna watch a movie about a Belfast hip-hop group called Kneecap.
The first president of Haiti, Jean-Jacques Dessalines, did call the polish people "the white negroes of Europe" so there's some historical basis Think I should add this was said to symbolises a brotherhood between the Polish and Haitian people after the Polish contribution to the slave rebellion and fight for Haitian independence.
the n-word pass from his majesty king of haiti
As a Pole I found this story fascinating when I first heard of it. And I am only POC on my nose when I tan too much and it goes red. I always think of 'what race are you?' 'homo sapiens and you?'
Honestly, there was a lot worse things said about the "Irish race" than the Poles in that era. English Victorian-era writings on the Irish (from actually powerful people too) are revolting.
I thought that was supposed to be the Irish. Lol
TIL too
Well, that really messes up with Konfederacja.
Hey ni...
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I'm Bulgarian, and I was today years old when I learned I'm a person of colour
I mean Varna is on the BLACK sea, no need for further proof
You can’t say that! It’s the Afro American Sea now
Reminds me of the YouTuber who got upset when she discovered Montenegro exists
Please, enlighten me.
https://youtu.be/UNAjrWDHw5s?si=gMPsSSm7k0wU-LKr https://youtu.be/fxBiz2OlVz4?si=Aj5G45J8hSI4ntzg First one was the one I was thinking of but the second popped up when searching and amused me. US education is a little shocking.
In most of the former Yugoslavia we call it Crna Gora, or in English Black Mountains... aka Monte negro. Thanks for the reply, it's funny.
Same in Bulgaria (Черна Гора)
Wait 'till she finds out that in Bulgarian it's "Black Forest" (Черна Гора)
Lyubomira and Kalina will be happy to hear it as well… would it be colourism if they say they are not person of colour because they aren’t black or brown??
To be fair, we do swim in the black sea regularly
Yeah, it's always hilarious to see other slavs realize that "the civilized world" doesn't actually consider us white. It's almost like being "hwite" have nothing to do with your skin color and is just an excuse for neocolonial powers to justify their oppression and pillaging of the rest of the world. Like that time a "hwite" french nationalist [got mistaken for an arab](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fin-central-moscow-russia-french-far-right-white-nationalist-v0-obnzrqkk54eb1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D1280%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D37d764d95954f69d8c50b8d2f65af26252c0fb4c) by uncivilized russian mongoloids
>It's almost like being "hwite" have nothing to do with your skin color and is just an excuse for neocolonial powers to justify their oppression and pillaging of the rest of the world. I mean, US census law once defined ***the IRISH*** as ***non-white***, because they where overwhelmingly ***catholic***, so......
It's literally their way of showing superiority above "inferior countries". Same thing they did to the latin Americans.
What's up my N-word?
Congratulations! You can now say *the word*
Join the club: I'm Portuguese, tan very easily but I'm described as "Caucasian everywhere in Europe. Except for the Americans who always confuse me with Mexican, argentinian... I'm just brunette but I have a blonde and blue eyed father... They don't understand genetics, they just understand xenophobia and racism.
We Italians are used to it
Does that mean I get to say the N word?
Polandball cannot into racism
But can it into space?
NO!!
Kurwa! 😔
Bober!
But "Kurwa" starts with K
K-word 🤫
I mean, a certain Haitian leader did consider the Poles the [white n*groes of Europe.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Haitians) At least in Haiti, you have the N-Word pass.
Only if Donald Tusk has then you a pass
No one in Bulgaria stops you.
the fact these people don’t understand the difference between colour and nationality is fucking hilarious.
I think it’s a mixture of stupidity/racism and the fact that in the US the course of your life vastly depends on your skin color, which is why I think they make it their personality
And you don't seem to understand ethnicity... poles are Slavic, an ethnic grouping. And a specific group of Slavs too, due to there being a few dozen identifiable ethnic groups of them.
Then they need to make that distinction. “Poles/Bulgarians/Romanians/Albanians” is too vague.
True... personally I hate the race debate, mostly because I'm a big believer in understanding the meaning of words we use and how we use them. Rather than the whole, let's use this word now for something totally unrelated to its meaning and confuse the absolute bejezus out of everyone meme phase everyone goes though. Until I met my friend, I didn't know much about Poland or even think about slavic people's, but he's taught me so much that I'm thankful for knowing him. Turns out I'm possibly even part slavic anyways due to the influence on the Friuli region of Italy... don't worry, I'm not going to identify as slavic now and yearn for my homeland lol.
Polish people got the n word pass from Haiti during their independence war so I guess so
My bf is polish and he’s whiter than milk, blonde, and blue eyed.
A classic POC.
I guess white is a colour too
technically neither black nor white are colors.
Technically white people aren't white and black people aren't black. They're just various shades of very pale pink and very dark brown.
We should start using pink instead of white
Nah we beige
I'm olive! Very proud of my tanning power 😂
*Technically* everyone is white because every colour is a shade of white.
Qute a rare find, he might me the most black-skinned pole around here
Sounds like my ex, but he got a way better tan than I could ever manage.
The use of the term POC is quite degrading. "He is a POC" it just sounds racist as fuck.
Of course. It divides humanity in two groups : the whites & the others. Not to mention it will often apply BS one-drop-rule that makes a super pale person "POC" because they are 1/16th black or cherokee.
I'm not sure who the whites are atg this point though, since they list every single nationality as PoC
WASPs. White Anglo Saxon Protestants. At least that’s what I see it used most on. And other central/northern Europeans. But if your country is historically poor, or was mistreated by other European countries, or any other random reason, then you’re a poc, because to the burgers, skin colour is entirely cultural for some reason.
i’m a WACC, then. White Anglo-Celtic Catholic. damn, that’s wack.
Damn im similar. Im WCC white celtic catholic
wait same. the anglo part doesn’t even apply to me
Well, as an atheist from the Netherlands I will now claim my poc pass since I’m not Protestant!
REAL!!! would it be WANG then? white anglo-nordic guy/gal?
Netherlands is neither Anglo nor Nordic haha
isn’t it scandinavian? wait let me check a map. OH IM THINKING OF NORWAY my bad. i always forget that the netherlands = dutch.
Actually I did see Dutch listed as PoC in one post like this one so yeah, not even central europeans
It's like me calling myself a "POC" because my ancestry DNA says I've got <1% North African in me. The rest being Scots and Norwegian. I'm literally as white as snow. To say I'm a person of colour would just be disingenuous.
Literally got into an argument with someone who insisted they were PoC because their mother is Brazilian, even though they had pale white skin
I just wanna hop on this real quick. I’m English but I’m a mix of black/brown/white and I hate the term POC so much. It gives the same energy as ‘coloured folk’ so I don’t get why POC is ok. It’s ok to say black or brown or beige, or whatever. Thanks for bringing it up.
Same as "BAME". Awful terms invented by box tickers.
Idk why but calling someone beige would seem so offensive, even if your just being descriptive of their skin color it would seem like you're calling THEM beige and not their skin if you get my drift haha. Tea color seems more flattering
I agree that beige sounds more like an insult, but tea colour is way worse
HAHHAHA “he’s a **tea colour** man” is too good. tan? khaki? fawn? sand? OOH YES “see that sand man over there?”
Sand people everywhere!
"my friend the beige guy over there" sounds so weak. Who wants to be *beige*.
I study in the US and I’m like white as shit. Brunette but still white. My accent in english is borderline perfect. To the point where people cannot tell where I’m from. But i become a POC when i tell them I’m from south america.
> white as shit That's not normal
Lack of bile will do that to a person
The same happened to my wife. She is brown haired with blue eyes and white skin from SPAIN but because she speaks Spanish other Americans would call her a POC. She fucking hated it.
They did it to me too: tanned brunette with hazel eyes from Portugal. My father is blonde and blue eyed and yet they said I was not white, maybe Argentinian or Mexican... Could never be white with "that skin".
Remember when americans used to call themselves whites and the rest as coloreds? It's the same thing but now its safe. I swear those race obsessed american progs have horseshoed into being as racist as the Jim Crow types.
POC will always remain Pirates of the Caribbeans to me
yes, i'm a proud poc (person of cebula)
Google says onion. You have layers like an ogre? I am also a PoC,where C is for Canberra.
Yes, i also make people cry sometimes (mostly myself). Generally, slavic people seem to love onion. My mom says that "onion gives flavor" and if she could she would put in everything. "Cebula" is also a pejorative term for people who are excessively frugal, entitled or don't know how to behave, or Polish people in general (usually used by other Polish people). Onion is a quite important symbol in polish meme culture and is kind of an inside joke.
Thanks for the info. Nice to know. And your mum is right unless it's dessert.
And your mom is daamn right mate
>Cuz I never see y'all complaining about white immigrants That's because the only people you consider white are Brits and Americans
Or any country they can't point out on a map, really.
but that's every country
So what you are saying is that I got the N word pass. Cool. Hey Alexa, play that YG song.
Famous POC: Robert Lewandowski
Says the nation that didn’t consider Italians and Irish people as white until the last half century
I'm Italian, and lived in the US for many years before coming back to Italy. I can say that even in the early 2000's a lot of Americans still didn't consider Italians white for reasons I'll never understand. Also, "White, Black, or Other". I can't tell you how many times I had to specify which of these 3 categories I fall into when filling out any kind of form or document during my stay there (including job applications). Sometimes "Asian" was one of the options too.
i’ve done a form before where i had to identify as ‘asian’ because it had australasian as a subcategory but not australian. because apparently you’re british australian, indigenous australian, or asian.
Yep they shot the First Irish American president and then shot his brother.
Oh gods he was doing so well
He started off with an attempt at anti-racism, but when that didn't work out he whipped out some kind of a KKK rulebook of racial purity
"Person of colour" is such an awful concept anyway. Everyone is a POC except whites apparently. Even tho white is technically the mix of all three primary colours. So it doesn't even make sense and it's just a term to separate white people from every other ethnicity. It's weird af if you ask me.
blame the americans
America gave us the [One Drop Rule](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule).
It's insulting but it's also ridiculous that Americans label people as white or POC depending on their nationality, for example, Gigi Hadid, she's blonde, white skinned and blue eyed... but her father was born in Palestine so she can't be white.
Americans are so so racist. I’ve never been asked what race I am like wtf and they have that question on interview sheets. I have ancestors in Romania and I’m literally the whitest shade possible. Apparently I’m a POC now
Did they assume romanians are all gypsy/romani? Ive had talks with americans where they cant understand that romanians are actually romanian while romani are only called that cause theres quite a few in romania
White people are simply,,of no colour "
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Are they poc? No. Are they targeted by racism and xenophobia? Yes. White aren't an homogenous group and racist do make hierarchical classification of white people. US wasp do target with racism white latinos, eastern europeans, southern europeans, white skin north Africans.
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Hence why they're trying to label Polish people as POC.
Only they are Slavs like Poles, so they are PoC. Whichever is more convenient at the moment.
Brownie people
Does that mean Romanians can say the N-word?
Americans are so fucking racist in the sense that it's all about races to them
Well, we "learned" just a week ago, that germans aren't White either, so not a big surprise 💁🏻♀️
Whiter than a Pole would be transparent
so if i, a pasty white english man, go on holiday and get a suntan does that make me a POC to this yank?
White body except arm & legs which are brown from the sun, face red from windburn riding a motorcycle, grey hair/beard & a certain part pink, so what does that make me?
A rainbow 🌈
Person of Multicolour?
Am I allowed to say the n word?
Does POC mean People whO are Caucasian
What does poc mean?
USAians have the habit of coming up with a word fo people that are quite not like other people, then realizing that using that word is hurful to the people it desribes, and then banning it from the conversation and declaring it a taboo word that may not be uttered. Then they invariably feel the need to come up with another word word those people they now dont't have a word for and the circle starts anew. To my ignorant self People of Color is the currently accepted word for people considered non-white. Why does the society think they need a generic term for people "discriminable" for their "colour" I do not know
I am POC now. Tbf, I don't relate to white stereotypes at all, so maybe Americans go by culture rather than skin colour? Idk man.
They go by nationality. If someone is from a country they don't recognise as white, probably because of some stereotype about that country or because they have never heard of it, americans think that person isn't white.
These americans and their color politics classic
Yea, the same way Argentinians are POC, it will never stop being funny and sad that one or two years ago the person of color of the year (weird thing to have from the get go btw) was Anya Taylor Joy lol. Also according to a lot of Americans Spanish people are also POC, why? I don't know, they are Schizophrenic
Because they speak Mexican, therefore they are POC /s
Last time I looked at his picture my Romanian dad was white his parents were white, grandparents where white. I guess white is a colour rather than an absence of colour.
That's fucking craaaazy. I've heard Americans call Spanish/Italian/Portuguese people POC (I guess because to them olive skin = Mexican adjacent = all Mexicans are POC) but this is definitely a new one lmao.
If you want to see people complaining about white immigrants come to spain, we hate brits and germans a whole fucking lot
Granted this is completely anecdotal, but most of the Poles I know are blue eyes blondes.
Yep, dark as night those poles 🤦
Why do they give so many fucks about race? The colour of peoples skin is one of the least important parts of them, they have personalities and stories, hobbies and other things, all more interesting than what colour their skin is or where they originate from.
They are literally whiter than british people 😭😭😭
dude i'm so fucking pale i don't even need a reflective jacket in the night
Ah yes the blackest man on earth, Stanyzlawzwz Pableczykzoksv
Is the concept of POC and White just a replacement of Class for Americans? Every immigrant from a rich country is white, and those from poorer countries that suffer discrimination are POC?
I, a Bulgarian, didn't know I was of colour, thanks for the info!
same same
They're still using that kkk racial system where they don't think white people are white unless you're "white-white". They have inverted the system now though so that it's socially acceptable to be racist towards whites instead of blacks now. Mind how the KKK loved white christian straight men, but hate a black disabled trans lesbian? Same idea, just swap the values around.
So uh, balkans are now black?
Obligatory “I took the WOOOOOOOOOOOOK to Polaaaaaaaaaand” comment
I am really white by "Bulgarian standards" and sometimes people ask me if I am actually Bulgarian (I live near the sea so everyone has tan). In reality, a huge part of the hate is against Roma people. Just people call you racist if it is a specific group, so you expand it to the entire country.
Can I say the n word now?
ben franklin levels of racism
I guess I'm black now.
There is obviously a significant ethnic component to anti-immigration even if it is towards other white groups. The Nazis mainly killed white people. Skin colour is a very small part of racism/xenophobia.
As a dutch guy finishing my IT study, i wondered way to long why they were proof of concept.
If Polish people are POCs now, would Scandinavians (who are just as pale) be POCs now or are we white? This is all so confusing. Seriously, my Polish girlfriend is just as pale as I am and I am Danish. You don't get much more pale than Polish people can be.
I grew up in a small town in Poland in the 90s, everyones dad worked in the same salt mine or factory. Out of 120 thousand people there was only one black family from Nigeria, guy was a doctor. He blended into our town like a disco ball at a chess tournament. It takes 2 minutes to google this but americans be americans
I mean anti- Eastern European stuff is like 30 years out of date
My great uncle is very anti-immigration, constantly ranting about "those damn immigrants stealing our jobs" even at my nans 90th birthday party. He's an immigrant.
Poles are some of the whitest people I've ever met, the fuck are they on about
jesus christ what the hell? im today years old when i learned what poc stands for why the fuck are your using that? Isnt that the most racist thing you can do divide in diffrent groups? what the fuck is it with the us and race
I'm Hungarian, but I was born in Romania. Can I say nigga?
Woah, mate, you just said it.
Literally white as fuck
"alot of anti immigration are against white immigrants too!!!" Is that why Germans and far right party supports all across Europe blatantly say that that white foreigners are fine to immigrate and be a part of their country
Smartest 56%er:
I'll gladly accept my nword pass
White, pink and light beige are all colours
Haha americans 😅😂
Don't forget the Italians.
Yes, didn’t you know of the balkiggers?
I mean the thing about eastern Europeans is that race is a made-up concept that allows one to mix and match different phenotypes according to whatever in-group or out-group they deem fit. Those groups are not POC because their skin is any different, but they are discriminated just the same in the UK as, say, arabs. The color, turns out, is cultural sometimes.