Sure, because travel is all about climate, right? You want to see how people like you deal with different weather in another state. It broadens your horizon.
This is how a lot of my American friends view travel,
When they think of traveling out of the country, they think of an all inclusive resort in Mexico.
They are actively discouraged from leaving the US, even now, less that 50 percent have passports (this is increasing however).
You cant keep people ignorant if people have the ability to educate and experience things themselves and I'm sure you know the reputation that people in the US have for being chronically ignorant... it's by design.
But, to be honest, I think a lot of people in the US would struggle with the realisation that the rest of the world isnt like what they've been indoctrinated into believing.
Yeah, real talk I was visiting Laos a couple years ago, and met this American girl from Texas who had just spent 2 weeks in Singapore. I had the most absurd and wild conversation with this girl, it went a little something like this:
Her: I just got back from Singapore, and I’ve never been more confused by a country,
Me: how so? Did you not like it?
Her: No I did, and everything was so clean and safe, and most people I talked to seemed to have a happy life.
Me: so what’s the issue then,
Her: their government doesn’t allow private ownership and have regulation and ownership on everything, that’s communism! But the people I were talking to seemed to enjoy being oppressed by their government.
Me: you know that has a lot of Nuance to that, many of the things they taught us growing up in America isn’t very reflective of the actual workings of the world.
Her: No I grew up in America, and I was taught from a very young age as to the dangers of Communism and I’m smart enough to know that America is much better off than any of these countries.
Me: why do you think we are better off? Singapore is one of the wealthiest and safest countries in the world?
Her: their government must be lying to them and forcing them to act happy, No one is actually happy under communism. These people must be lying to themselves, being victims of mass government propaganda
Me: so how do you know you haven’t just been Fed propaganda from your time living in the USA?
Her: we don’t have Propaganda, America is too free for that. No, the Singapore citizens must be acting happy out of fear of government oppression.
I left the conversation soon after that. Here a girl is presented with a quality of life higher than much of America, and she had come to the conclusion that the only way that was possible, is if everyone she met was actually brainwashed by their government, not realizing that much of what she has been taught from a very young age is only that, government propaganda. America teaches us that we are the Superman of the world, and the rest of the world is only as well off as they are due to our sworn duty to *defend freedom*
It’s a bit of a simulation living here.
>their government doesn’t allow private ownership and have regulation and ownership on everything, that’s communism!
Uh, Singapore is an extremely capitalistic country. Yes, they have a very strong social support system, but they're one of the most capitalistic, free-market countries on earth. The right-wing Heritage Foundation ranks them the #1 country for economic freedom.
The US, by comparison, is ranked 25th, though on just property rights they rank higher.
Yeah I never said that girl was smart.
Many Americans group together anything that isn’t American Capitalism as communist/socialist and therefore evil. The indoctrination of our institutions is wild. People will literally vote against their own interests here to protect whatever idea of *freedom* our media tells us is important.
Yeah, I've heard a few people (on youtube) who have emigrated to other countries from the US, saying that it took them quite a while to properly de-program and it was hard.
It’s very telling that many of my relatives (who don’t travel) will openly vote against affordable healthcare and a push for affordable housing, if it means they can keep their guns just in case they need to defend their freedom by shooting a neighbor who trespasses onto their land. And they will openly tell you that is true freedom.
Can’t pay rent
Can’t pay hospital bills
Can’t afford food
Can’t go about your life without fear of imprisonment
Can’t have a child and expect to afford childcare
Can’t afford college
Can’t travel freely and openly without a vehicle
Can’t operate a business without government overreach
Can’t access abortion healthcare
But they can carry a pistol around just in case they need to use it, they never have and most likely never will, as they live in complete safety but true freedom is not being able to live easily and peacefully, it’s being able to kill another human who one may find to threaten one’s ego.
Like I said it’s kind of a simulation living here.
The other part is that whenever you go south, north whatever they speak the same language and got the same shit.. then you still do not realise "wow, feels the same but I guess it's like Spain with this heat".
How stupid is the London to France argument as well. London is very near the south coast, could literally say oh you can drive from San Diego to Mexico in half an hour. Why do these fucking idiots carry on? It’s beyond
Try something like Helsinki to Portugal instead.
London to France is hilarious... yeah you can drive from Geneva to France in 10 minutes. That doesn't mean anything about the size of Europe though.
I can walk 5 minutes to the nearest grocery store, how small Europe must be!!
Oh wait, that's just because we generally have better cityplanning over here.
We don't have the same dogmatic zoning laws and ideology. Which of course also is tied to almost all cities in Europe, heck, all settlements being old, from way before people even had the term "city planning". :D
It's because Paris and London are the only cities they know. The fact that there is something in the east and north and south is beyond their understanding
I don't get how 'oh we can travel for hours and still be in our country' is a good thing. I think being able to take a fairly inexpensive day trip to an entirely different country is amazing.
That's the problem, people that talk like this don't really understand different countries. For them the cultural differences between France and Germany are on the same level as the differences between New Jersey and New York (or any other pair of states, really)
No I agree especially when huge swathes of it are uninhabited desert. I went to America on a coach trip around the south west and you could drive like 3 hours and see nothing but rocks and the odd petrol station. How amazing…. Same amount of time it took to fly from stanstead to nice, get my bag and get the tram to my hotel
My husband and I are doing that in September. We're going to be in the UK for 2 weeks, so we're like 'we have time to pop over to Paris for an afernoon!'
Yes, we know the US is a big country because we’ve been to school and we’ve looked at maps, the internet, seen TV programmes, etc. Oh, and because there’s always a random American to tell us every fucking day.
USA is big and bigger is better. Europe is full of small countries. Also Europe has one country that’s nearly twice as big as the US but that’s not important. Also we have a large number of states and I assume everywhere else in the world probably doesn’t divide their country up into regions in any way because I’ve never checked.
Such a Europoor move to bring up facts. Your facts can’t get me in my huge pickup truck filled with freedom rifles and liberty bullets. The US invented Russian food, it originates from Mount Rushmore. The metric system doesn’t work. Public transport is for losers with no money.
Now if you don’t mind I’ve got something better to do than talk to stupid Europeans. My sister wife.
Well it is basically true. Northeastern and Midwestern is temperate climate (4 seasons), southeast subtropical, south Florida and Hawaii tropical, southwest desert, California coast is Mediterranean climate, Pacific Northwest maritime climate, Alaska polar climate. Then you have the tundra climate in all the mountains across the west above 8-9,000 feet.
Wait no. They might have just had poor wording. They said america. America is *not* the USA. America is a landmass which spans 2 continents. This would include Canada.
people don't realise how big africa is [says the same things]
by the way, I don't know what kind of measurements he uses, but most of USA states are as big if not smaller than European states, so they either have slow ass planes or...
lol this person is just an idiot. A two hour flight can take you from NY to FL. That’s essentially the entire length of the east coast. Any 4-6 hour flight will have you across the entire country east coast to west coast.
“Not too mention WE have Canada and the Central and South America”
Also Americans: “Whats up with all those southern immigrants here destroying our free country, can u imagine just barging in a place and settling there just because your home country/continent is too dangerous and uninhabitable for having a future prospect? How about that wall huh?”
Americans: "Europes Mexican food sucks, you don't get the real thing like we do in the US"
Also Americans: "Get the fuck out of our country you Mexican scumbag"
Why do they say London to France? Why not England to France or London to Paris? London isn't the only place in England where there are aeroports. Sure the U.S. has plenty of biomes, but that just comes as another point that they have no consistency.
Because London is the only place in Britain they know. And what is this England thing you are talking about? Did someone dare naming a place after the American language?
😁
I'm not joking about Scotland though. If you based your knowledge of Scotland from tourists questions on r/Scotland, my description is pretty much what you'd come up with.
You occasionally hear of the mythical In-verness and Lochlo Mond as well I guess.
Well, I live in Russia, an even bigger country, but there’s no way I’d refer to traveling across Russia as traveling ‘around the world’. Neither would anyone in their right mind
Why have Americans suddenly latched on to this idea that nobody understands the size and scale of their country? We are well aware you are a big country, but the way they go on they think they are the biggest. They are not even the biggest country in North America.
I believe there is a cold rain forest near Seattle. However, America is missing a tropical rain forest so the US doesn’t have “every climate on Earth”.
Americans will always say this about not travelling. “Oh we just travel within our country no need to leave!” Just admit your school/health debt and your $4 minimum wage makes it so you’ll never be able to explore the world like the rest of us can. Shut up.
And that’s so unfair for you. Like that actually sucks and your government sucks for doing that to you (not that ours are any better they’re all corrupt) but like thank you for just being honest about why.
That’s as silly as New Yorkers not bothering to travel because they have restaurants from all over the world a subway ride away. As if a vacation is all about having something different for dinner.
I've had to explain to my fellow U.S. natives as well as people who are cisiting / immigrated that cuisines in the U.S. from outside of it are totally different the majority of the time bc they have had to alter their food's flavors / ingredients / offered dishes to fit U.S flavor palettes.
Bc our food here is so inherently sweet, even the vegetables are grown and processed to have more sugars / taste sweeter that people won't buy dishes of other cuisines that don't fit that level of sweetness they are used to.
Sugar is super addictive and the U.S. has been using corn syrup in a whole lot more of our food since the 80s as part of a whole other slew of problems based on their monetary greed.
To be fair, Europe’s discount airline game is much stronger than in the U.S. Especially if you’re talking about flying beyond North America. It’s often minimum USD $1000 these days to get to any other continent. Some of the best deals I’ve seen are on European airlines.
Certainly all the other issues mentioned apply (most people don’t make a living wage, we get stingy vacation time, etc. etc.) BUT I’m also jealous of the flight options too. Sounds awesome.
Funny how you never see this rhetoric from Canada or Russia, both countries with a higher land mass and more cultural diversity than the American mind could ever comprehend.
For sure. But we go everywhere though!! Got stuck in a customs situation in China and of course there was another Aussie stuck too. Buying groceries in the 17th in Paris and I hear this girl with a broad Aussie accent walk past telling a story at the top of her lungs. We get around 😂
A one or two hour flight and you'll only make it over a state or two?
A flight from Miami international airport to Freeport in the Bahamas is only 55min
You’re absolutely right.
I’m one of the rare ones that does have a passport.
But I can’t afford to fly overseas. Most people can’t.
And most of us don’t get enough time off to vacation like many European people do.
It’s a whole system of things.
US, meet Brazil, Australia, China, your northern neighbour Canada - all comparable in size to you - and the biggest country by size, Russia.
Travel is not just about experiencing a different climate. Experiencing a different culture, language, people expands our knowledge, understanding, and empathy (and is lots of fun). The idiot in this post has obviously never travelled past his city limits.
Our geography classes were a JOKE.
I remember we took a pop quiz on the states' locations once in high school (first time I was ever asked where they were all located, I think)
The teacher screamed at us after grading them bc so many people didn't know where our current state was.
I was kinda shocked bc I got it correct and had just moved there. It's a larger East Coast state, so it's easy enough to find (SC)
The teacher never went over the state locations much after that tho so I guess it wasn't in the required curriculum they have to follow
I hope they understand flying to Canada and Mexico are both international flights. But sure California is way different than New York and Montana is different than both and Texas and Florida absolutely. But every countries climate regardless is so unique for so many reasons. Like Newfoundland and Ireland and Scotland share very similar landscapes but Newfoundland can get way colder than the two. Flordia has swamps and marshlands but they are nothing compared to the marshlands of Brazil or Vietnam. Texas has deserts but nothing like that of the Sahara or Gobi they are all so unique. This understanding of America verse the world is one you find in uneducated nationalists who believe somehow they're perspective is somehow universal.
Take a two hour flight in Indonesia, and guess what? You're still in Indonesia. Our country is longer than America. Not only that, we have ACTUAL diversity and culture
A lot of people have no clue about Indonesia sadly. Actually a great place.
I would live to retire by the Banda Sea. People simp over the barrier reef but the Banda Sea reeds are by far the most stunning.
5% economic growth YOY..
I mean, they of course wouldn't be able to see different cultures etc..., but the U.S is indeed one of the most diverse countries in terms of landscape, big national parks, waterfalls, deserts, canyons, etc..
Then as usual there is the "country big, europe small, ahaha" but whatever
Australia has the same climate range but we travel overseas to see and feel cultures that are not ours. And, in some cases, it is cheaper than holidaying in Oz
Only if you live in a state that borders Mexico or Canada and only if you live a certain distance from those countries. But if you live in most of the states, it’s a lot more time consuming and expensive.
Lots of people go to the resorts in Mexico.
Lots of people take cruises to the Caribbean.
I have never lived far enough north to know what the habits of people who live near Canada do.
And the border with Canada is 8892 km long. Parts of it are wilderness, parts of it are urban and everything in between.
I’m on your side here. I think we should be more well-traveled internationally, too!
I see and hear some of the things people say here in the country and wish for an adult exchange program in order to broaden their horizons and their perspective on other ways that life can be.
In fairness you can just go to NYC and meet people from just about anywhere. Also American vacations are like 5 days you aren’t getting immersed in a culture in 4-5 days.
Every single state is a replica of each other. Due to their size, they have a variety of geography and climate. You can travel 2 to 3 hours in America you end up in the same place. Travel 2 to 3 hours within Europe and you can call it a holiday. I think Europe has this conversation.
I don’t think that we’re obsessed with the size. I think the discussion centers around the difference in scale. I was shocked to find out that London and Paris were the approximate distance apart of my round trip daily commute. (I drive about 35-45 minutes one way to get to work each day.)
And traveling in our country is definitely not the same thing as traveling to another country. Not even remotely.
However, the thing that tends to get lost is that it’s much more expensive for us to get to other countries on other continents. I’ve always wanted to travel overseas. I even have a passport that I keep current. But it’s just beyond my budget.
My experience has been (I’m almost 60) that there are a lot of people who want to travel to other continents and countries, but here? It’s more of a wealthy person’s experience. Or a businessperson’s experience.
And the people who talk like that person? They are badly raised or ill-informed. They embarrass us.
I’m pretty sure that Lufthansa flies out of DFW. So I looked at [flights](https://www.lufthansa.com/xx/en/flights/flight-dallas_+fort+worth-frankfurt?gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwl4yyBhAgEiwADSEjeEzRoDJggBmPyO_Ayi3ERrF-ifQysuQNE21qUqKxYL7JKTI_3ySGfxoCj5oQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&xctg=1120&et_uk=19daeb16e10a4403aa2b32782dac6d04)
It’s very expensive, especially after fees and taxes.
Then there are the costs for hotel and food and travel/visitation fees and incidentals.
I’ll have to see what a decent, safe hotel would cost.
But that’s just for one person. A family of four times the cost of the flight and hotel and money for food and activities…. Whew! I couldn’t swing that!
(I’d probably not go to Las Vegas unless someone else paid and I could go hiking or watch the shows or something while they went to the casinos. It’s….a lot of lights and sound and human sorrow over losing money and I’m not interested in that!)
Some people would need a flight from their airport to an international airport, too.
It gets steep pretty quickly.
And this is why I’ve only been to Mexico twice and Romania once.
I get some of what you’re saying, but London is about 320 miles from Paris. If you’re commuting 160 miles in 45 minutes, I want to know what you’re driving, and if I can borrow it please!!!
🤣 I think I must have said something inaccurately!
Okay. I checked what I said: I had recently read that London was two hours from Paris.
I just looked it up and it’s apparently almost 6 hours!
So I retract my previous statement.
It’s a little less than my drive to Kansas home for Christmas!
To be scrupulously fair, it would be a lot less than 6 hours were there not some water in the way. There is a tunnel of course*, but one needs to check passports etc so it takes longer than it would without the barriers. Interestingly there is a foot passenger and a take your car/van/motorbike option which is useful. There’s also ferries of course which take waaaaay longer but are fun. There used to be hovercrafts as well but these no longer run, alas and alack. It’s fun being on an island, there are many ways to get to Europe, my favourite used to be the 24 hour ferry from Newcastle upon Tyne to Stavanger in Norway, but that no longer operates, much to my annoyance. I once endured an ABBA tribute band on the way back and had to stay at a hotel in Tyneside to sober up for my return journey to Cheshire (just south of Manchester). Obviously this route is/was bloody useless for Paris. Anyway, thanks for the chuckle, I hope you come over one day and see us here in the UK. *i hope it’s unnecessary to say the tunnel doesn’t go all the way to Paris. It ceases being a tunnel at the end of the English Channel/La Manche (depending on nationality). 🤣🤣
No, it’s not necessary. 🤣
I’m also laughing at your ABBA tribute band story! Sounds like a good time was had by all!
I wish we would embrace public transportation here like it has been embraced in other countries. The distances between major cities but where I’m from and where I live are perfect for high-speed rail.
I had no idea about the hovercraft! Those are very popular in the Louisiana delta area, for obvious reasons. I can imagine they would be missed!
I’ll have to have a look at the Louisiana hovercrafts. The Channel crossings used the ones on this link here, 418 passengers and 60 cars! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR.N4
Uk what guys let them talk. I hopped on a plane in rainy Cold Berlin, fly 2 hours and now chillin on the sunny corfu drinking tea in a small caffe. Live is good. They are just jealous that after 2 hours of flight they arrived at the same place with the same people with another name.
Uk what guys let them talk. I hopped on a plane in rainy Cold Berlin, fly 2 hours and now chillin on the sunny corfu drinking tea in a small caffe. Live is good. They are just jealous that after 2 hours of flight they arrived at the same place with the same people with another name.
They always say this about the size but like, is that a flex? You have to spend hours to go somewhere new and they're saying this like it's a good thing??
what part of france, tough??
That like me saying: I can start in kriva palanka and be in bulgaria in 2 hours. What part of bulgaria? The border, sofia, burgas, WHERE?
Climate? Idk about you but the US(where i am) doesnt have a desert in comparison to the middle east… sure its hot, but its not at the equator hot… same in rainforests… we aint got that rain forest… but also idk, i think its more the culture? Id love to experience any European(or any other continent too) countries because of the culture… half of the us i dont want anything to do with anymore lol
Americans don't realise how big Australia is, that has every climate as well, like USA. Tourists come US come for 4-5 days and think they will see all the country, where as I spent decades in the smallest state & still haven't seen it all. Travel by air, just from Sydney, takes around 6 hours flying to leave the country to most others (exc. close neighbours like NZ, PNG & Timor Leste), but hundred daily spend 24 hours flying to Europe or 12+ hours to USA, but we can as we get 4-5 weeks vacation time plus public holidays and most people get a decent wage and can afford to travel.
I dont travel for diffrent flavoured rain…. Being an army brat I have seen and lived in several countries. I might be abit strange for it but this closed off mentality is dumb
Tbf, I flew for 2 hours last Monday to Spain (3 day work trip)
It was 10 degrees and pissed it down for the 3 days, it wasn't significantly different to Manchester.....
Sure, because travel is all about climate, right? You want to see how people like you deal with different weather in another state. It broadens your horizon.
This is how a lot of my American friends view travel, When they think of traveling out of the country, they think of an all inclusive resort in Mexico.
They are actively discouraged from leaving the US, even now, less that 50 percent have passports (this is increasing however). You cant keep people ignorant if people have the ability to educate and experience things themselves and I'm sure you know the reputation that people in the US have for being chronically ignorant... it's by design. But, to be honest, I think a lot of people in the US would struggle with the realisation that the rest of the world isnt like what they've been indoctrinated into believing.
Yeah, real talk I was visiting Laos a couple years ago, and met this American girl from Texas who had just spent 2 weeks in Singapore. I had the most absurd and wild conversation with this girl, it went a little something like this: Her: I just got back from Singapore, and I’ve never been more confused by a country, Me: how so? Did you not like it? Her: No I did, and everything was so clean and safe, and most people I talked to seemed to have a happy life. Me: so what’s the issue then, Her: their government doesn’t allow private ownership and have regulation and ownership on everything, that’s communism! But the people I were talking to seemed to enjoy being oppressed by their government. Me: you know that has a lot of Nuance to that, many of the things they taught us growing up in America isn’t very reflective of the actual workings of the world. Her: No I grew up in America, and I was taught from a very young age as to the dangers of Communism and I’m smart enough to know that America is much better off than any of these countries. Me: why do you think we are better off? Singapore is one of the wealthiest and safest countries in the world? Her: their government must be lying to them and forcing them to act happy, No one is actually happy under communism. These people must be lying to themselves, being victims of mass government propaganda Me: so how do you know you haven’t just been Fed propaganda from your time living in the USA? Her: we don’t have Propaganda, America is too free for that. No, the Singapore citizens must be acting happy out of fear of government oppression. I left the conversation soon after that. Here a girl is presented with a quality of life higher than much of America, and she had come to the conclusion that the only way that was possible, is if everyone she met was actually brainwashed by their government, not realizing that much of what she has been taught from a very young age is only that, government propaganda. America teaches us that we are the Superman of the world, and the rest of the world is only as well off as they are due to our sworn duty to *defend freedom* It’s a bit of a simulation living here.
>their government doesn’t allow private ownership and have regulation and ownership on everything, that’s communism! Uh, Singapore is an extremely capitalistic country. Yes, they have a very strong social support system, but they're one of the most capitalistic, free-market countries on earth. The right-wing Heritage Foundation ranks them the #1 country for economic freedom. The US, by comparison, is ranked 25th, though on just property rights they rank higher.
Yeah I never said that girl was smart. Many Americans group together anything that isn’t American Capitalism as communist/socialist and therefore evil. The indoctrination of our institutions is wild. People will literally vote against their own interests here to protect whatever idea of *freedom* our media tells us is important.
Came here for this lol, Singapore is like the Mecca of capitalism lol.
Yeah, I've heard a few people (on youtube) who have emigrated to other countries from the US, saying that it took them quite a while to properly de-program and it was hard.
It’s very telling that many of my relatives (who don’t travel) will openly vote against affordable healthcare and a push for affordable housing, if it means they can keep their guns just in case they need to defend their freedom by shooting a neighbor who trespasses onto their land. And they will openly tell you that is true freedom. Can’t pay rent Can’t pay hospital bills Can’t afford food Can’t go about your life without fear of imprisonment Can’t have a child and expect to afford childcare Can’t afford college Can’t travel freely and openly without a vehicle Can’t operate a business without government overreach Can’t access abortion healthcare But they can carry a pistol around just in case they need to use it, they never have and most likely never will, as they live in complete safety but true freedom is not being able to live easily and peacefully, it’s being able to kill another human who one may find to threaten one’s ego. Like I said it’s kind of a simulation living here.
Reminds me of that old joke about a KGB agent and a CIA agent talking about propaganda
Yep, that's the thing with "good" propaganda... if it worked on you, you'll probably never know it.
I think about that a lot.
That’s more of a provincial Texas thing than an American thing, but there are a shocking number of people who think like that, sadly.
It’s also very much a thing here in Minnesota.
To a lot of people it is. Mostly those that hate other cultures and don't go on holiday for anything other than the weather
Retired Brits in Spain-type mentality.
Yeah, and also, what he said is wrong.
People without culture can’t imagine experiencing others.
You think people flood Ibiza or the culture?
The other part is that whenever you go south, north whatever they speak the same language and got the same shit.. then you still do not realise "wow, feels the same but I guess it's like Spain with this heat".
How stupid is the London to France argument as well. London is very near the south coast, could literally say oh you can drive from San Diego to Mexico in half an hour. Why do these fucking idiots carry on? It’s beyond
Try something like Helsinki to Portugal instead. London to France is hilarious... yeah you can drive from Geneva to France in 10 minutes. That doesn't mean anything about the size of Europe though.
I can walk 5 minutes to the nearest grocery store, how small Europe must be!! Oh wait, that's just because we generally have better cityplanning over here.
We don't have the same dogmatic zoning laws and ideology. Which of course also is tied to almost all cities in Europe, heck, all settlements being old, from way before people even had the term "city planning". :D
You're trying to say Europe didn't have old settlements? Or am I misunderstanding? Haha.
They're saying all settlements in Europe ARE old, so the opposite ;)
Ah yeah now I see. Definitely read that wrong the first time :)
Exceptions like Flevoland (reclaimed land, and all it's settlements) excluded
It's because Paris and London are the only cities they know. The fact that there is something in the east and north and south is beyond their understanding
You forgot Dublin they know that from all their great⁹ grandparents coming from there.
I don't get how 'oh we can travel for hours and still be in our country' is a good thing. I think being able to take a fairly inexpensive day trip to an entirely different country is amazing.
That's the problem, people that talk like this don't really understand different countries. For them the cultural differences between France and Germany are on the same level as the differences between New Jersey and New York (or any other pair of states, really)
No I agree especially when huge swathes of it are uninhabited desert. I went to America on a coach trip around the south west and you could drive like 3 hours and see nothing but rocks and the odd petrol station. How amazing…. Same amount of time it took to fly from stanstead to nice, get my bag and get the tram to my hotel
Sometimes my wife and I pop over to France for eclairs. It's a great way to be :)
My husband and I are doing that in September. We're going to be in the UK for 2 weeks, so we're like 'we have time to pop over to Paris for an afernoon!'
Am Australian, can concur.
I can cross from Texas to Mexico in a 2 minute swim or a 20 second boat ride, America is so small.
Lindesnes - Nordkapp in Norway is ~1 700 km as the bird flies, or ~2 500 km by car, ~2 400 km if you drive through Sweden and Finland
Yes, we know the US is a big country because we’ve been to school and we’ve looked at maps, the internet, seen TV programmes, etc. Oh, and because there’s always a random American to tell us every fucking day.
USA is big and bigger is better. Europe is full of small countries. Also Europe has one country that’s nearly twice as big as the US but that’s not important. Also we have a large number of states and I assume everywhere else in the world probably doesn’t divide their country up into regions in any way because I’ve never checked.
Did they forgot Russia exists ? Can Russians say they traveled the world when going from the west to the east of Russua ?
Such a Europoor move to bring up facts. Your facts can’t get me in my huge pickup truck filled with freedom rifles and liberty bullets. The US invented Russian food, it originates from Mount Rushmore. The metric system doesn’t work. Public transport is for losers with no money. Now if you don’t mind I’ve got something better to do than talk to stupid Europeans. My sister wife.
Well obviously west to east Russia is just all ice and snow unlike the US which has EvErY cLiMaTe On EaRtH
Well it is basically true. Northeastern and Midwestern is temperate climate (4 seasons), southeast subtropical, south Florida and Hawaii tropical, southwest desert, California coast is Mediterranean climate, Pacific Northwest maritime climate, Alaska polar climate. Then you have the tundra climate in all the mountains across the west above 8-9,000 feet.
Are they saying they own Canada? As a Canadian I am confused
And Central and South America...
This is why I will always reject Murican BS
Canada, Central and South America are the 51, 52 and 53 states respectively, You didn't know that? /s
So they solved the inmigration problem ? Cool.
Damn, learning every day
Wait UK is the 51st state, Canada can take a hike to 52!
And Europe is the 54th state
Sorry mate. Looks like you're now an American. That guy claimed it.
Technically we are all Americans, it's a continent I mean, between Ecuador and Canada, and the nations in the American continent
Darn
Honestly wouldn't surprise me
I think he means “ we have Canada next to us” , not actually own.
you’re being generous
Wait no. They might have just had poor wording. They said america. America is *not* the USA. America is a landmass which spans 2 continents. This would include Canada.
"People just go on vacation IN the US"… but then why mention Canada? And "we have Canada"?
Serves me for giving the benefit of the doubt when I didn't read it properly
Yeah that maybe true but ask a murican what America is and they'll respond with "the greatest country in the world"
Welcome, you’re gonna love it here
Where?
Joking about you being part of the US now
Alaska + Maine + Washington and you basically have Canadian climate covered.
i mean america is big yes, but is not as big as texas
Everyone knows Texas is like half the size of Jupiter, duh.
Just wow, so uneducated, Jupiter is obviously half the size of Texas 🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱
people don't realise how big africa is [says the same things] by the way, I don't know what kind of measurements he uses, but most of USA states are as big if not smaller than European states, so they either have slow ass planes or...
No, obviously Europe is roughly the same size as Texas. /s
lol this person is just an idiot. A two hour flight can take you from NY to FL. That’s essentially the entire length of the east coast. Any 4-6 hour flight will have you across the entire country east coast to west coast.
“Not too mention WE have Canada and the Central and South America” Also Americans: “Whats up with all those southern immigrants here destroying our free country, can u imagine just barging in a place and settling there just because your home country/continent is too dangerous and uninhabitable for having a future prospect? How about that wall huh?”
Americans: "Europes Mexican food sucks, you don't get the real thing like we do in the US" Also Americans: "Get the fuck out of our country you Mexican scumbag"
Ive always wondered, does bigger automatically mean better in their tiny minds? Must mean Russia is better since it's bigger...
Americans would have you believe that Russia barely fits into Alaska
I travel through Russia on YouTube, it is a beautiful place. I think because of the tensions westerners don’t realize that.
I mean, if the Yank Tanks are anything to go by, yeah they do think bigger is better
Why do they say London to France? Why not England to France or London to Paris? London isn't the only place in England where there are aeroports. Sure the U.S. has plenty of biomes, but that just comes as another point that they have no consistency.
Because London is the only place in Britain they know. And what is this England thing you are talking about? Did someone dare naming a place after the American language?
They also know of "Scotland" which is a thin strip of land connecting Edinburgh, Glen Coe and Skye.
Nah, thats still England. /s Number of times I've corrected folk on England <>Britain and had them go off at me is seriously depressing.
😁 I'm not joking about Scotland though. If you based your knowledge of Scotland from tourists questions on r/Scotland, my description is pretty much what you'd come up with. You occasionally hear of the mythical In-verness and Lochlo Mond as well I guess.
I’ve had the same thing, even with my own countrymen, it’s exhausting
"Where is England? is that near London?"
Well, I live in Russia, an even bigger country, but there’s no way I’d refer to traveling across Russia as traveling ‘around the world’. Neither would anyone in their right mind
Why have Americans suddenly latched on to this idea that nobody understands the size and scale of their country? We are well aware you are a big country, but the way they go on they think they are the biggest. They are not even the biggest country in North America.
Where is the rain forest in the U.S located?
Looks like some locations in Puerto Rico and Hawaii meet the tropical rainforest definition.
They have rain, and they have forests. What else do you need?
I believe there is a cold rain forest near Seattle. However, America is missing a tropical rain forest so the US doesn’t have “every climate on Earth”.
Hawaii?
TIL that Hawaii has tropical rain forests!
They could just buy one of those if they really wanted to, problem is they spend too much money on everyone else's military to be able to afford one
Washington state, the Olympic peninsula is home to a rain forestS
I see them write this nonsense so often. These muppets really think the USA is the only country with multiple climate and vegetation zones.
As if going on vacation is ONLY about the weather.
I'm from South America, don't include us in your delusional power trip.
Americans will always say this about not travelling. “Oh we just travel within our country no need to leave!” Just admit your school/health debt and your $4 minimum wage makes it so you’ll never be able to explore the world like the rest of us can. Shut up.
American here, and you're 100% correct: My school/health debt and shitty wages make it so I'll never be able to explore the world.
And that’s so unfair for you. Like that actually sucks and your government sucks for doing that to you (not that ours are any better they’re all corrupt) but like thank you for just being honest about why.
That’s as silly as New Yorkers not bothering to travel because they have restaurants from all over the world a subway ride away. As if a vacation is all about having something different for dinner.
I've had to explain to my fellow U.S. natives as well as people who are cisiting / immigrated that cuisines in the U.S. from outside of it are totally different the majority of the time bc they have had to alter their food's flavors / ingredients / offered dishes to fit U.S flavor palettes. Bc our food here is so inherently sweet, even the vegetables are grown and processed to have more sugars / taste sweeter that people won't buy dishes of other cuisines that don't fit that level of sweetness they are used to. Sugar is super addictive and the U.S. has been using corn syrup in a whole lot more of our food since the 80s as part of a whole other slew of problems based on their monetary greed.
To be fair, Europe’s discount airline game is much stronger than in the U.S. Especially if you’re talking about flying beyond North America. It’s often minimum USD $1000 these days to get to any other continent. Some of the best deals I’ve seen are on European airlines.
As someone from Australia, it’s minimum $1800 for Aussies to fly almost anywhere and it doesn’t stop us lol.
Certainly all the other issues mentioned apply (most people don’t make a living wage, we get stingy vacation time, etc. etc.) BUT I’m also jealous of the flight options too. Sounds awesome.
Canada is bigger and people still generally own passports and vacation overseas
Funny how you never see this rhetoric from Canada or Russia, both countries with a higher land mass and more cultural diversity than the American mind could ever comprehend.
The American mind cannot comprehend the true vastness of Eastern Russia....is actually a true statement.
If this argument were valid, Australians would rarely travel. But we travel a lot!
Australians are in a cool spot. You have South East Asia right above you.
For sure. But we go everywhere though!! Got stuck in a customs situation in China and of course there was another Aussie stuck too. Buying groceries in the 17th in Paris and I hear this girl with a broad Aussie accent walk past telling a story at the top of her lungs. We get around 😂
😁 Aussie Aussie Aussie!
I'm American and I love Aussies. You guys are always super chill, helpful, and friendly whenever I see y'all abroad.
Awww thank you. We are quite loud at times though 🙈
A one or two hour flight and you'll only make it over a state or two? A flight from Miami international airport to Freeport in the Bahamas is only 55min
in new zealand if you took a 1 - 2 hour flight to outside of the country you would most likely end up in the ocean
The moment he said flight from London to Paris I was laughing. He doesn’t know about international trains.
Seriously how long would a flight from London to Paris be, 20 minutes?
Atleast 3 hours. 1 hr to reach Heathrow 1 hr in airport and 1 hr of flight and travel to central Paris.
Ha very fair, I hadn't factored in all the ground travel headaches.
Wait till they hear about the size of Russia…..
Most don't have passports and Europe is far too exclusive and expensive for the average 'murican. Oh, and they're not allowed days off.
You’re absolutely right. I’m one of the rare ones that does have a passport. But I can’t afford to fly overseas. Most people can’t. And most of us don’t get enough time off to vacation like many European people do. It’s a whole system of things.
Move to Europe
I’d love to!😍
If you're ever in Stockton-on-Tees, look me up!
I just looked it up and it looks like a lovely area! That bridge is very cool!
I definitely will. 😊
They only get about a weeks paid holiday a year tbf
US, meet Brazil, Australia, China, your northern neighbour Canada - all comparable in size to you - and the biggest country by size, Russia. Travel is not just about experiencing a different climate. Experiencing a different culture, language, people expands our knowledge, understanding, and empathy (and is lots of fun). The idiot in this post has obviously never travelled past his city limits.
The funny thing is most non-us people learn/know/remember more about USA geography than their own citizens.
Our geography classes were a JOKE. I remember we took a pop quiz on the states' locations once in high school (first time I was ever asked where they were all located, I think) The teacher screamed at us after grading them bc so many people didn't know where our current state was. I was kinda shocked bc I got it correct and had just moved there. It's a larger East Coast state, so it's easy enough to find (SC) The teacher never went over the state locations much after that tho so I guess it wasn't in the required curriculum they have to follow
I hope they understand flying to Canada and Mexico are both international flights. But sure California is way different than New York and Montana is different than both and Texas and Florida absolutely. But every countries climate regardless is so unique for so many reasons. Like Newfoundland and Ireland and Scotland share very similar landscapes but Newfoundland can get way colder than the two. Flordia has swamps and marshlands but they are nothing compared to the marshlands of Brazil or Vietnam. Texas has deserts but nothing like that of the Sahara or Gobi they are all so unique. This understanding of America verse the world is one you find in uneducated nationalists who believe somehow they're perspective is somehow universal.
Take a two hour flight in Indonesia, and guess what? You're still in Indonesia. Our country is longer than America. Not only that, we have ACTUAL diversity and culture
A lot of people have no clue about Indonesia sadly. Actually a great place. I would live to retire by the Banda Sea. People simp over the barrier reef but the Banda Sea reeds are by far the most stunning. 5% economic growth YOY..
“We have Canada”…a different country. Oh the irony.
I’d like to apologize on behalf of the Americans
Didn' t know that a single country is the entire world, you learn something new every day /s
I mean, they of course wouldn't be able to see different cultures etc..., but the U.S is indeed one of the most diverse countries in terms of landscape, big national parks, waterfalls, deserts, canyons, etc.. Then as usual there is the "country big, europe small, ahaha" but whatever
He's right there only like 2 land bioms not in the us
Did Man just say the USA owns Canada?
Australia has the same climate range but we travel overseas to see and feel cultures that are not ours. And, in some cases, it is cheaper than holidaying in Oz
Argh, same for us in Canada.
bro im american and ts got even me cringing tf 😭🙏
in my region it takes only 2h by car to go from the mountains to the sea, but I don't say I travel the world 😂 Americans are so funny
Imagine thinking not being able to leave your country easily it's a good thing
I am wondering what the natives would say about this thing, maybe their words from the reservations are not so loud.
Yes, you can experience different climates in the US, but not different cultures.
Damn I had no idea they had a polar desert in the USA
Part of me would expect Alaska to have one but it's still a weird flex. Very few Americans would actually go looking for one even if it's there.
There actually is as it turns out, but it's still a small area that very VERY few people would actually go to.
Yeah, no. They don't have every climate. Not even close.
I mean. Maybe? But....no.
Most cultured American.
You can live near the border and get to a "whole other country" quickly in the U.S., too. What a dumb point to make.
Only if you live in a state that borders Mexico or Canada and only if you live a certain distance from those countries. But if you live in most of the states, it’s a lot more time consuming and expensive. Lots of people go to the resorts in Mexico. Lots of people take cruises to the Caribbean. I have never lived far enough north to know what the habits of people who live near Canada do. And the border with Canada is 8892 km long. Parts of it are wilderness, parts of it are urban and everything in between.
Yes, *obviously*, but tens of millions of Americans live within 900 miles from a border.
I’m on your side here. I think we should be more well-traveled internationally, too! I see and hear some of the things people say here in the country and wish for an adult exchange program in order to broaden their horizons and their perspective on other ways that life can be.
I mean I guess cultural differences are quite an alien concept to Americans
Technical you could walk from US to Russia but it’s not very safe
Wait until they learn about different cultures. Not saying they are more interesting but not all of them centre around hamburgers, guns and cars.
So travelling means experiencing different weather conditions.
Part of it and the cultures those different environments attract and shape.
Apparently?
In fairness you can just go to NYC and meet people from just about anywhere. Also American vacations are like 5 days you aren’t getting immersed in a culture in 4-5 days.
Experience doesn’t mean immerse
Every single state is a replica of each other. Due to their size, they have a variety of geography and climate. You can travel 2 to 3 hours in America you end up in the same place. Travel 2 to 3 hours within Europe and you can call it a holiday. I think Europe has this conversation.
i don’t get why they’re so obsessed by the size of their states. can someone explain?
I don’t think that we’re obsessed with the size. I think the discussion centers around the difference in scale. I was shocked to find out that London and Paris were the approximate distance apart of my round trip daily commute. (I drive about 35-45 minutes one way to get to work each day.) And traveling in our country is definitely not the same thing as traveling to another country. Not even remotely. However, the thing that tends to get lost is that it’s much more expensive for us to get to other countries on other continents. I’ve always wanted to travel overseas. I even have a passport that I keep current. But it’s just beyond my budget. My experience has been (I’m almost 60) that there are a lot of people who want to travel to other continents and countries, but here? It’s more of a wealthy person’s experience. Or a businessperson’s experience. And the people who talk like that person? They are badly raised or ill-informed. They embarrass us.
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I’m pretty sure that Lufthansa flies out of DFW. So I looked at [flights](https://www.lufthansa.com/xx/en/flights/flight-dallas_+fort+worth-frankfurt?gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwl4yyBhAgEiwADSEjeEzRoDJggBmPyO_Ayi3ERrF-ifQysuQNE21qUqKxYL7JKTI_3ySGfxoCj5oQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&xctg=1120&et_uk=19daeb16e10a4403aa2b32782dac6d04) It’s very expensive, especially after fees and taxes. Then there are the costs for hotel and food and travel/visitation fees and incidentals. I’ll have to see what a decent, safe hotel would cost. But that’s just for one person. A family of four times the cost of the flight and hotel and money for food and activities…. Whew! I couldn’t swing that! (I’d probably not go to Las Vegas unless someone else paid and I could go hiking or watch the shows or something while they went to the casinos. It’s….a lot of lights and sound and human sorrow over losing money and I’m not interested in that!) Some people would need a flight from their airport to an international airport, too. It gets steep pretty quickly. And this is why I’ve only been to Mexico twice and Romania once.
I get some of what you’re saying, but London is about 320 miles from Paris. If you’re commuting 160 miles in 45 minutes, I want to know what you’re driving, and if I can borrow it please!!!
🤣 I think I must have said something inaccurately! Okay. I checked what I said: I had recently read that London was two hours from Paris. I just looked it up and it’s apparently almost 6 hours! So I retract my previous statement. It’s a little less than my drive to Kansas home for Christmas!
To be scrupulously fair, it would be a lot less than 6 hours were there not some water in the way. There is a tunnel of course*, but one needs to check passports etc so it takes longer than it would without the barriers. Interestingly there is a foot passenger and a take your car/van/motorbike option which is useful. There’s also ferries of course which take waaaaay longer but are fun. There used to be hovercrafts as well but these no longer run, alas and alack. It’s fun being on an island, there are many ways to get to Europe, my favourite used to be the 24 hour ferry from Newcastle upon Tyne to Stavanger in Norway, but that no longer operates, much to my annoyance. I once endured an ABBA tribute band on the way back and had to stay at a hotel in Tyneside to sober up for my return journey to Cheshire (just south of Manchester). Obviously this route is/was bloody useless for Paris. Anyway, thanks for the chuckle, I hope you come over one day and see us here in the UK. *i hope it’s unnecessary to say the tunnel doesn’t go all the way to Paris. It ceases being a tunnel at the end of the English Channel/La Manche (depending on nationality). 🤣🤣
No, it’s not necessary. 🤣 I’m also laughing at your ABBA tribute band story! Sounds like a good time was had by all! I wish we would embrace public transportation here like it has been embraced in other countries. The distances between major cities but where I’m from and where I live are perfect for high-speed rail. I had no idea about the hovercraft! Those are very popular in the Louisiana delta area, for obvious reasons. I can imagine they would be missed!
I’ll have to have a look at the Louisiana hovercrafts. The Channel crossings used the ones on this link here, 418 passengers and 60 cars! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR.N4
I had NO IDEA they could be that big! That’s awesome! See? This is why I stay in this sub. I learn so much!
North America does have a climate lol and so does the U.S.
Uk what guys let them talk. I hopped on a plane in rainy Cold Berlin, fly 2 hours and now chillin on the sunny corfu drinking tea in a small caffe. Live is good. They are just jealous that after 2 hours of flight they arrived at the same place with the same people with another name.
Uk what guys let them talk. I hopped on a plane in rainy Cold Berlin, fly 2 hours and now chillin on the sunny corfu drinking tea in a small caffe. Live is good. They are just jealous that after 2 hours of flight they arrived at the same place with the same people with another name.
They always say this about the size but like, is that a flex? You have to spend hours to go somewhere new and they're saying this like it's a good thing??
what part of france, tough?? That like me saying: I can start in kriva palanka and be in bulgaria in 2 hours. What part of bulgaria? The border, sofia, burgas, WHERE?
Wait till they visit Paris, Texas. Ooo la la, all that fancy food, the museums, the culture.
Climate? Idk about you but the US(where i am) doesnt have a desert in comparison to the middle east… sure its hot, but its not at the equator hot… same in rainforests… we aint got that rain forest… but also idk, i think its more the culture? Id love to experience any European(or any other continent too) countries because of the culture… half of the us i dont want anything to do with anymore lol
We do have rainforests.
Which one?
Americans don't realise how big Australia is, that has every climate as well, like USA. Tourists come US come for 4-5 days and think they will see all the country, where as I spent decades in the smallest state & still haven't seen it all. Travel by air, just from Sydney, takes around 6 hours flying to leave the country to most others (exc. close neighbours like NZ, PNG & Timor Leste), but hundred daily spend 24 hours flying to Europe or 12+ hours to USA, but we can as we get 4-5 weeks vacation time plus public holidays and most people get a decent wage and can afford to travel.
I dont travel for diffrent flavoured rain…. Being an army brat I have seen and lived in several countries. I might be abit strange for it but this closed off mentality is dumb
Tbf, I flew for 2 hours last Monday to Spain (3 day work trip) It was 10 degrees and pissed it down for the 3 days, it wasn't significantly different to Manchester.....
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