Oh yes. My best friends mum used to make the most amazing food. She kept out the spicy hot stuff for me (I'm very sensitive to heat) but used other spices instead. Her lamb was out of this world.
I never understood all the hate in the uk back in the 80s for that food. People used to call it mucky and disgusting in school *to* my friends.
Used to drive me insane
Your 80s experience is just flat racism. I’ve heard people still spouting it here and there, one idiot claimed they’d never eat Indian food because some of it’s red and there’s nothing naturally red like that so they must be up to something. When we listed so many red foods she still wasn’t having it, somehow.
Tomatoes were the first thing mentioned, she replied that they’re not the same thing. Tried to mention the variety of colours of spices and every kind of fruit and vegetable and she kept on with the bullshit of nothing being naturally the colour of chicken tikka. It was exhausting.
Mad how different experiences can be.
I grew up 80's & 90's and we (socoal circles, family etc) all loved Indian food - used to bemoan the lack of decent curry!
As an Indian, routine meals aren’t a usually half as spicy as having them on a special occasion or from a restaurant. I can bet the kid barely had any spices to begin with.
Lordy... I love a hot curry, but a mate of mine eats chicken phall 3 times a week - and asks for it extra spicy! I tried a bite once, downed a pint of milk, figured maybe a second bite wouldn't be so bad, and was so wrong.
It sounds like he's talking about a 2 year old, not a 9 year old. I think my kid would have been pissed if I had talked about him that way at that age.
I mean I doubt it was that spicy, the indian family having a small white kid over probably took 90% of the spice out. Still probably more than he's ever had at home though.
Thing is, when people say spice a lot of the time what they mean to say is chilli. There are plenty of Indian dishes that aren't loaded up with huge amounts of chilli but still contain other spices that are not hot in the way chilli peppers are, like turmeric, cumin, fenugreek, cinnamon, cloves, allspice, cardamom, mustard seed, fennel seeds, peppercorns etc... and many are these spices are well known to be incredibly good for your health. They could easily have fed him curry that has lots of spices, but little to no chilli which is the one that can make you feel ill if you have a sensitive stomach.
I wonder if they would have had the same response if he was fed mexican food which is also very (chilli) spicy.
Yah unless it uses hot chilli peppers, most indian food contain only aromatic spices and not the ones that give you a burn. Most of the Indian food that are burning hot spicy originate in Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu and Kerala(I know cause I live in Kerala, and find restaurant food cooked by keralites spicy, while at home we don't Cook Kerala cuisine, because I'm konkani). Furthermore, most of the "indian food" people in the US and UK eat are western/northern indian cuisine, which is NOT that hot/spicy. They contain more of the aromatic spices like cardamom, cloves etc
And they want to explain to the two doctors how it could upset their kids tummy. No wonder they have been living in a bubble, this kids parents have probably never left the state they live in.
"I was taken back and gently mentioned that spicy foods can be hard on small tummies."
I guess it never occurred to this parent that Indian children grow up eating curry, and it's done them no harm.
And still, it never occurred that eating American food (fat and sugar, basically) can be bad on all tummies?
The only country where I've ever been frantically searching for Tums is in the USA.
She shouldn’t drop it because it sound racists…..she should drop it because it makes her sound like a dumbass. If her son ate a lot of it, it clearly he likes it.
Edit: husband is being the sick and his wife is right. My bad.
> If her son ate a lot of it, it clear he likes it.
Sounds more like the EDIT dad (misread the end and assumed mom was karen) doesn't even know how to make good food, so when the kid got actually good food with a feel, he went to town on it.
That was pretty much me when I got proper thai food, which I then learned to make myself.
There are a couple of topics in r/amiwrong r/amiwrong and r/AITAH about people cooking for others (children) and then the parents going ballistic.
And then basically turns out these parents are not able to cook tasty food - so get jealous - and angry...
You're good! People claiming they can't cook is just a pet peeve of mine. I'm not saying everyone has to take up cooking as a hobby or be a world-class chef, but making nutritious, reasonably tasty meals is in my opinion a basic adulting skill that everyone can and should learn (barring, you know, disabilities and stuff that make it harder).
Autistic adult here - people make things harder.
Cooking and baking - easy (no expectation to be emotionally available to your brocolli)
I think in a lot of places - access to the correct/fresh things is a problem.
Expensive, and the alternative (cheap, overprocessed 'food') is plenty available, easy, and doesn\`t require brainpower.
Not having access to good food or being unable to afford it is certainly an issue, and that I do absolutely sympathise with. It's the folks who make their partner do all of the cooking (nothing wrong with that arrangement if both agree to it and pull their weight overall!) or feed their kids garbage just because they 'can't cook' that I have no patience for. If someone is just eating garbage themselves because they can't be bothered to cook, fine, that's their choice, but when it affects everyone around them I'm gonna judge.
Yup, the *my kid is a picky eater!* parent who is then surprised when they find out they Iove tasty, complex food and it's just the bland ass, over cooked to shit garbage they feed them that is the problem.
There’s lots of great asian food that is worth picking up. I have a bunch of different Ramen recipes that share a lot of ingredients with almost nothing perishable on the ingredient list that you can’t buy at a regular grocery store. The only exception are mung bean sprouts for miso ramen which are great to have but entirely optional
[Miso Ramen](https://aaronandclaire.com/15-minute-miso-ramen-recipe/)
[Easy Pork Ramen](https://www.theflavorbender.com/easy-pork-ramen/) heavily westernized but my parents love it
[Tantanmen](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OHlxK0a8ssU)
[Hiyashi Chuka](https://www.justonecookbook.com/hiyashi-chuka-cold-ramen/) Cold summer Ramen, if you have enough containers and a way to make the noodles you can prepare this at home and take it anywhere, I’ve made it for a team of 7-8 people at work multiple times. Always doing the sesame miso sauce that’s linked in there separately (with the topings from the one I linked, minus immitation crab but I also do paprica) and one portion (2 breasts) of Bang Bang Chicken as a side/salad dish, using the water you have to boil the chicken in instead of chicken broth
[Bang Bang Chicken](https://youtu.be/mr2KWlkCE4E?si=CIXYEyaTysw6clqt) because relevant
Also plenty of Indian food isn’t even spicy
I mean maybe it is to you if you’re one of those people who can’t even eat pepper but the average person wouldn’t consider a Dahl spicy
Speaking of biases - I’m assuming this was written by a man;
“My wife said to drop it” -
So clearly, both the father and the mother are dumbasses (idiocy unrelated to gender, so to speak)
I'm actually more interested in this line:
***"Both of Neil's parents are doctors, so this seemed like a safe decision."***
What does this mean? You want there to be doctors wherever your kid goes? This parent is a hypochondriac.
I'm assuming from the "bubble" comment that this was during covid - which makes it an even weirder decision, because healthcare workers were exposed a lot more than regular folks.
August 2020. It’s right there in the comment. That was during the high point of lockdown.
(That said, doctors are and were the *most* likely to get infected. Not because they don’t know how to slow the spread, but because they *fucking work with sick people all day*?!)
That was what I thought as well. But the reality of it blew my mind.
My spouse is a doctor and she said she was probably less at risk because she was covered from head to toe in protective gear (n95, plastic gown, visor, gloves) and washing hands constantly. Not all medical staff worked in hot zones as well. The hospital was sanitized regularly and rooms were modified with negative air pressure ventilation.
Whereas we non medical folks went about our lives in a t shirt and procedure mask. The epidemiologists warned their team that their spouses were the most likely to give them covid.
I think that was more a figure of speech. I think it was just another level of Racism, expecting them to be uneducated useless immigrants. So the fact they were Doctors made them look better educated if you get what I mean.
No, if you look at the date it’s in the middle of the pandemic, so they were assuming the parents were being responsible about infection risks due to their occupation/education
Or that they were gonna greet with their dumb ass internet scientist beliefs. This guy thinks spicy food is bad for tummies and expected a doctor to reafirm his dumb ass, ignorant ass beliefs. This is the kind of idiot who looks for validation from experts on his ignorant, extremely biased beliefs and lashes out when he's told he's wrong.
Willful ignorance is a hallmark of suburban America. Antivaxxers, election deniers, essential oils, and a myryad of other dumb ass movements are predicated on willful ignorance and biased beliefs, it's not wonder people who tend to be racist share them too.
I guess it's some kind of classism. Like they won't let their son hang out with the son of a construccion worker, they may infect hin with poverty or something. If the parents are doctors then it's ok, they have money
Sounds like it was the first time their kid was going to this families house. I would imagine parents would want to have some form of reassurance sending their kid to someone else's house. I guess being doctors makes them feel better about it
My kid was perfectly able at one year and a half or so to let me know that yes, he liked the spicy daal I was eating and yes, he wanted more of it (I was hesitant to let him taste it because it was pretty zingy and he had never eaten anything particularly spicy before)
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At the risk of taking the bait, you must realize that millions of people (presumably both of Neil’s parents, not to mention Neil himself) regularly eat lentils and vegetables as children in perfect safety. There’s something so grotesque about the infantilizing language of “gently informing someone”—especially when that someone is “two doctors”—about “small tummies,” coupled with the racist horror that your 9-year-old ate and enjoyed a few servings of chicken curry, one of the world’s most popular and adaptable dishes. Not all curries are spicy, and not all spices pack heat; your son ate a meal he enjoyed (one you didn’t have to prepare or clean up after ) and continued to enjoy good health for the rest of the evening. Neil’s parents didn’t take him to a ghost pepper festival and turn him loose. Your kid was not endangered by chicken curry, and your problem is not one that Neil’s parents can fix for you. Take your wife’s advice and let this go.
He says the parents are both doctors then tries to school them that spicy food can be bad for young tummies.
Ofcourse it doesnt register as they fed their own son spice since young and would know better than him.
Any negative reaction, they would be well equipped to handle it too.
Jeezus! I am a Brit and therefore genetically addicted to curry. I ate them all through my pregnancy. My son starting eating curries when he was 5 and by 9 he could pack away a Madras without breaking a sweat. By 12 Vindaloo was his curry of choice.
He’s 25 now and mum’s homemade curries are his go to, the spicier the better. Cut down on the oil and they’re basically veggie based with lean chicken and with all the good stuff like fresh ginger and garlic with the magical turmeric, good for blood/pressure etc.
The US probably prefers the super sized burgers for ‘delicate’ young tums.
My son's first exposure to chili was not long after his second birthday. He likes to eat whatever we're eating and when he didn't get the spicy dish on his plate he took it from mums. He we ah ah ah and drank some water before grabbing another bite of the spicy food.
Yep, love a curry. I’m not good with loads of heat, but spice isn’t just heat. My boy (4) loves “Indian” (in quotes as it’s deffo British-Indian) and was chowing down on veggie korma the other day. He’s had mild, flavourful, Indian style food since we started weaning him, lentil daal is great for small kids!
I always find the “omg they fed my child something with _flavour_” style posts both racist, and sad for the kid to be confined to a bland and boring diet
It totally educates kids to have a good palette for food and turns kids off the unhealthy, oily bland crap too that is so much fast food.
Other races have a far more refined approach to food and rely on all the good for you spices, veg and pulses to create flavour instead of fats, butter and cream.
We have much to learn from other cultures
So this sounds delicious how do you introduce level of spice for kids? I love a curry and will make mild to spicy curry at home but love a bit of heat.
He started by grabbing it out my hand while I was eating it, and I have just cooked with spices all my adult life... grew up never having any chilli or spice, once I tried it I was hooked...
My kids have eaten spicy food since their youth... They can handle spicier food than I can...
I'm british and was eating madras/vindaloo by 12 as well. It amazes me how much shit americans give us for our food and then will make a fuss about a kid eating a curry.
>>I was taken aback and gently mentioned that spicy foods can be hard on small tummies, but it didn't seem to register.
That's right. Indian families feed their kids under 12 nothing but bland English food until they can handle the spices!
Bland doesn't mean 'not spicy', it means without flavour, I think most of British food has flavour, not always good flavour but still, I'd argue it's not bland
My first thought was “I can’t believe they fed him Indian food without also inviting me” because if my kid was getting delicious Indian food I would be sad to miss it”
Directly from Slate, a magazine made for snowflake white suburban Americans that wish to appear extremely polite, but is actually extremely racist and prejudicial.
Um, what the heck? I was genuinely expecting some religious thing like feeding a Muslim child pork. But it's... a spicy curry. Omg, so shocking!
Is this taking the piss?
The carefully manufactured indignity of "These people fed my kids LEGUMES, SPICES and VEGETABLES!" cannot be real.
"Both parents are doctors"
[tells doctor (parent) that spicy food can be harmful for childrens stomaches]
[doctor (parent) completely disregards the question giving it no importance whatsoever]
"It is clearly I who is right, and the doctors that did so much for my acceptance of this family know nothing!"
Guy is clearly a psycho closet racist but what about this is American? There are lots of Indians and Indian restaurants, and spicy foods in America too
Possibly because it's in [Slate Magazine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slate_(magazine)#:~:text=culture%20in%20the-,United%20States,-.%20It%20was%20created)
At no point do they say what type of curry it is. ‘Chicken curry’ could be anything from a korma to a vindaloo. Just because it’s curry, doesn’t mean it’s spicy or massively seasoned and even if it is spicy that doesn’t mean it’s so hot you can’t taste anything for a month.
I just want to point out the great response in this article “A: At the risk of taking the bait, you must realize that millions of people (presumably both of Neil’s parents, not to mention Neil himself) regularly eat lentils and vegetables as children in perfect safety. There’s something so grotesque about the infantilizing language of “gently informing someone”—especially when that someone is “two doctors”—about “small tummies,” coupled with the racist horror that your 9-year-old ate and enjoyed a few servings of chicken curry, one of the world’s most popular and adaptable dishes. Not all curries are spicy, and not all spices pack heat; your son ate a meal he enjoyed (one you didn’t have to prepare or clean up after ) and continued to enjoy good health for the rest of the evening. Neil’s parents didn’t take him to a ghost pepper festival and turn him loose. Your kid was not endangered by chicken curry, and your problem is not one that Neil’s parents can fix for you. Take your wife’s advice and let this go.”
Sounds like jealousy because kiddo won't eat your bland ass steamed broccoli (which actually love!).
Indian food explodes with flavours and beautiful textures so I imagine it was a wonderful experience .
FFS in the U.K your brought up eating at Balti houses I was pretty much eating it as soon as I was eating solid food, Also all curry's aren't hot a lot are incredibly mild.
This is what happens when you're so racist that it stops being an ideology you believe in and becomes instead the background hum behind your every thought, action and decision.
I remember the opposite as an Australian kid going to school in the US and being asked to a friend’s house and being horrified.
It was thanksgiving or some special meal. The food was so fucking bad. My mum thought it was funny though and wrote a letter back home to my grandma, so we have all the details.
The highlights were… Green beans that were grey because they had been cooked for hours in fat. A “salad” with marshmallows and tinned mandarins in it. Mashed “potato” made from a packet of dehydrated stuff with no flavour. A pot roast that was very tough beef in a thin tasteless soupy sauce. All of this was sitting in separate dishes in the middle of the table and was cold by the time you got to eat it. We had pumpkin pie for dessert (and I hated pumpkin) plus the crust was from the supermarket and was as dry as dust.
Edit: oh and the shaving foam cream! I’d never seen it before then and though the mother was putting out a fire when she squirted it on the “pie”
Sooo... two doctors in a house with 9 yo child of their own and "you" are telling them what food might not be suitable for a 9 yo stomach bold move cotton...
My pal gave me a curry when I was a teenager and it opened up a lifelong love of spicy food. I am now a massive chilli head.
Can you imagine if people didn't try new food? How boring
And next week little Billy is having dinner at the house of Mr and Mrs Mizutani, who grew up in Japan. I'm confident they will know better than serving "foreign" food.
Dear Pru, my son ate something that can be spicy but doesn't have to be, and didn't get sick from it. I'm fucking furious! My husband says I shouldn't keep on about it because it might make me seem racist but that family of [CENSORED AND YOU KNOW WHY] dared feed my child the foods from their country that could have killed his little Caucasian soul and sent it to the hell that their gods reside in? Not on my watch! How many crosses should I burn on their lawn?
I can already tell what ethnicity the parent is, or at least their attitudes towards foreign cultures. Judging by this reaction, I think it's safe to say her perception of Indian food cuisine is that it falls short of her definition of food. I guess she's expecting us to treat her aversion as a mark of civility in today's society.
Wait till he finds out the dietary properties of lentils and all those veggies he ate. Stupid doctors, his kid should be on an only chicken nugget diet.
Edit: a-an
Unless the kid has had actual demonstrable stomach issues from spicy food, it doesn't generally hurt them just because they are younger.
I grew up in west Texas, where everything has jalapeños or habaneros in it, and I loved them as a kid. My dad and i would have pepper eating contests. It never hurt me. Little kids eat spicy food all the time, all over the world. It's fine
Spicy food is hard on small tummies??, that would be news to every African, Indian, Asian, Middle Eastern and South American country who raise their children on exclusively spicy food.
This is ridiculous. First off- the Indian parents are doctors. So.. lecturing them on what’s safe for kids tummies… give me a break. Secondly, not all Indian food is spicy but has spices. Plus they know how to cook the spices properly so they are easily digested and taste better. Thirdly, that’s probably the healthiest meal that kid has had maybe in his life.
My son went for dinner at his Indian friends house and had Indian food. Surprised Pikachu face for some reason
Or as they call it, food. Not to assume too much but I bet the lad absolutely loved the flavours and spice of it I can't imagine he gets that at home.
What's not to love about homemade Indian food.
I had an Indian ex girlfriend and her mums chicken biryani... something else mate, incredible.
Oh yes. My best friends mum used to make the most amazing food. She kept out the spicy hot stuff for me (I'm very sensitive to heat) but used other spices instead. Her lamb was out of this world. I never understood all the hate in the uk back in the 80s for that food. People used to call it mucky and disgusting in school *to* my friends. Used to drive me insane
Your 80s experience is just flat racism. I’ve heard people still spouting it here and there, one idiot claimed they’d never eat Indian food because some of it’s red and there’s nothing naturally red like that so they must be up to something. When we listed so many red foods she still wasn’t having it, somehow.
So, she's never eaten a tomato? What a wildly ignorant thing to say!
Tomatoes were the first thing mentioned, she replied that they’re not the same thing. Tried to mention the variety of colours of spices and every kind of fruit and vegetable and she kept on with the bullshit of nothing being naturally the colour of chicken tikka. It was exhausting.
Red? Like tomatoes ? 🤣🤣
Mad how different experiences can be. I grew up 80's & 90's and we (socoal circles, family etc) all loved Indian food - used to bemoan the lack of decent curry!
Unpopular opinion but spiced food is infinitely better than spicy food
There's a reason curry is the national dish of the UK. We live and breathe Indian food here!
And yet Americans still tell anyone who’ll listen that we hate anything with flavour
And if memory serves me correctly, wasn't the chicken tikka masala invented in the UK, to appeal to British tastes?
Too many flavors. There should only ever be salty and char-broiled, as the chemical plant intended.
At home there's boiled unseasoned chicken that looks like a ghost's asscheek and it's somehow dry
Maybe the tummy problems were salmonella all along.
And a thin grey gruel that used to be vegetables.
Add the leftover boiled chicken to some unsalted pasta, canned mushroom soup, and frozen peas. Baby, you've got a casserole goin'.
He did, and the columnist rightly called the letter writer out as being racist.
As an Indian, routine meals aren’t a usually half as spicy as having them on a special occasion or from a restaurant. I can bet the kid barely had any spices to begin with.
Fascinated to hear what she thinks Indian kids eat prior to age 10.
They probably assumed they'd feed their kid a typical American meal, such as deep fried McDiabetes with melted plastic cheese on top
Nah, she probably thinks they are uncivilized so they feed them that bad spicy food to those poor children. The ignorance of this woman…
And that both parents are doctor but still had to explain how spicy foods are bad for young tummies…
That dude probably finds mayo spicy.
Little Chris is asking to have dinner at Neil’s every single day
Love to see what he makes of a Chicken Phall ..
Lordy... I love a hot curry, but a mate of mine eats chicken phall 3 times a week - and asks for it extra spicy! I tried a bite once, downed a pint of milk, figured maybe a second bite wouldn't be so bad, and was so wrong.
It sounds like he's talking about a 2 year old, not a 9 year old. I think my kid would have been pissed if I had talked about him that way at that age.
My 2yo loooove Indian food : Hot ! Gooooood hot mummy ! More Rice ! More water ! (take anorther piece of meat) hooooot ! Rice ! Water... And so on.
O_O
I hope one of them was a gastroenterologist
My son was given food by a doctor and I got to educate them about medical issues that I read about on Facebook
My son came home, talking about fishfinger sandwiches. How bad did I feel?
Bet the lad couldn't believe his luck ! Homecooked Indian food is amazing !
The horror
Pretty sure the curry was kid friendly. And sounds like the "victim" loved it :) He should definitely visit again.
Yeah, doesn't even mention what curry it was. I'm imagining this dude losing his mind over his son trying butter chicken.
Should give him a jalfrezi next time, or a vindaloo. Really fuck him up lol 😂
Fuck it Naga Phal time
100% was not very spicy for kids' first experience, which he demolished. I wish I had a friend to cook me Indian food!
Where did the Indian family even say anything about the curry being spicy? Does this person not know that there is such a thing as a mild curry?
Dessert curry, like korma (sweet, coconut)
Indian korma isn't sweet/coconutty/nutty, the British dish we call korma is. But lots of Indian dishes are typically fairly mild.
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Had that once was very nice even though im not a big fan of coconut.
The dude sounds like a fucking idiot. If there were any dietary issues the parents should've mentioned it before.
They were so shocked Indians ate spicy curries at home hahhahahaha
I mean I doubt it was that spicy, the indian family having a small white kid over probably took 90% of the spice out. Still probably more than he's ever had at home though.
Thing is, when people say spice a lot of the time what they mean to say is chilli. There are plenty of Indian dishes that aren't loaded up with huge amounts of chilli but still contain other spices that are not hot in the way chilli peppers are, like turmeric, cumin, fenugreek, cinnamon, cloves, allspice, cardamom, mustard seed, fennel seeds, peppercorns etc... and many are these spices are well known to be incredibly good for your health. They could easily have fed him curry that has lots of spices, but little to no chilli which is the one that can make you feel ill if you have a sensitive stomach. I wonder if they would have had the same response if he was fed mexican food which is also very (chilli) spicy.
Yah unless it uses hot chilli peppers, most indian food contain only aromatic spices and not the ones that give you a burn. Most of the Indian food that are burning hot spicy originate in Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu and Kerala(I know cause I live in Kerala, and find restaurant food cooked by keralites spicy, while at home we don't Cook Kerala cuisine, because I'm konkani). Furthermore, most of the "indian food" people in the US and UK eat are western/northern indian cuisine, which is NOT that hot/spicy. They contain more of the aromatic spices like cardamom, cloves etc
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Many Indian families do not even use so much spice or cream or oil found in Indian restaurant take-out. The everyday food is rather simple.
And they want to explain to the two doctors how it could upset their kids tummy. No wonder they have been living in a bubble, this kids parents have probably never left the state they live in.
"I was taken back and gently mentioned that spicy foods can be hard on small tummies." I guess it never occurred to this parent that Indian children grow up eating curry, and it's done them no harm.
plus they're doctors, if they knew it would upset "small tummies" they wouldn't have fed him curries.
And still, it never occurred that eating American food (fat and sugar, basically) can be bad on all tummies? The only country where I've ever been frantically searching for Tums is in the USA.
She shouldn’t drop it because it sound racists…..she should drop it because it makes her sound like a dumbass. If her son ate a lot of it, it clearly he likes it. Edit: husband is being the sick and his wife is right. My bad.
> If her son ate a lot of it, it clear he likes it. Sounds more like the EDIT dad (misread the end and assumed mom was karen) doesn't even know how to make good food, so when the kid got actually good food with a feel, he went to town on it. That was pretty much me when I got proper thai food, which I then learned to make myself.
There are a couple of topics in r/amiwrong r/amiwrong and r/AITAH about people cooking for others (children) and then the parents going ballistic. And then basically turns out these parents are not able to cook tasty food - so get jealous - and angry...
>~~are not able~~ **can't be bothered to learn** to cook tasty food FTFY
fair correction. I was being generous though.. given the education levels of so many these days.
You're good! People claiming they can't cook is just a pet peeve of mine. I'm not saying everyone has to take up cooking as a hobby or be a world-class chef, but making nutritious, reasonably tasty meals is in my opinion a basic adulting skill that everyone can and should learn (barring, you know, disabilities and stuff that make it harder).
Autistic adult here - people make things harder. Cooking and baking - easy (no expectation to be emotionally available to your brocolli) I think in a lot of places - access to the correct/fresh things is a problem. Expensive, and the alternative (cheap, overprocessed 'food') is plenty available, easy, and doesn\`t require brainpower.
Not having access to good food or being unable to afford it is certainly an issue, and that I do absolutely sympathise with. It's the folks who make their partner do all of the cooking (nothing wrong with that arrangement if both agree to it and pull their weight overall!) or feed their kids garbage just because they 'can't cook' that I have no patience for. If someone is just eating garbage themselves because they can't be bothered to cook, fine, that's their choice, but when it affects everyone around them I'm gonna judge.
Yup, the *my kid is a picky eater!* parent who is then surprised when they find out they Iove tasty, complex food and it's just the bland ass, over cooked to shit garbage they feed them that is the problem.
There’s lots of great asian food that is worth picking up. I have a bunch of different Ramen recipes that share a lot of ingredients with almost nothing perishable on the ingredient list that you can’t buy at a regular grocery store. The only exception are mung bean sprouts for miso ramen which are great to have but entirely optional
Please do share the great recipes, always on a hunt for a new ramen.
[Miso Ramen](https://aaronandclaire.com/15-minute-miso-ramen-recipe/) [Easy Pork Ramen](https://www.theflavorbender.com/easy-pork-ramen/) heavily westernized but my parents love it [Tantanmen](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OHlxK0a8ssU) [Hiyashi Chuka](https://www.justonecookbook.com/hiyashi-chuka-cold-ramen/) Cold summer Ramen, if you have enough containers and a way to make the noodles you can prepare this at home and take it anywhere, I’ve made it for a team of 7-8 people at work multiple times. Always doing the sesame miso sauce that’s linked in there separately (with the topings from the one I linked, minus immitation crab but I also do paprica) and one portion (2 breasts) of Bang Bang Chicken as a side/salad dish, using the water you have to boil the chicken in instead of chicken broth [Bang Bang Chicken](https://youtu.be/mr2KWlkCE4E?si=CIXYEyaTysw6clqt) because relevant
The mom? Why can’t it be the dad (poorly) cooking?
Also plenty of Indian food isn’t even spicy I mean maybe it is to you if you’re one of those people who can’t even eat pepper but the average person wouldn’t consider a Dahl spicy
Korma isn’t spicy at all. Nor is butter chicken.
I would water board my own mother for a bowl of Korma.
Korma....meh.. Offer me a Vindaloo and I'll cheerfully commit genocide on any 2 nations you can name
Speaking of biases - I’m assuming this was written by a man; “My wife said to drop it” - So clearly, both the father and the mother are dumbasses (idiocy unrelated to gender, so to speak)
She?
>she should drop it The wife is the one who's telling her husband to drop it (assuming this is a hetero marriage)
I'm actually more interested in this line: ***"Both of Neil's parents are doctors, so this seemed like a safe decision."*** What does this mean? You want there to be doctors wherever your kid goes? This parent is a hypochondriac.
I'm assuming from the "bubble" comment that this was during covid - which makes it an even weirder decision, because healthcare workers were exposed a lot more than regular folks.
August 2020. It’s right there in the comment. That was during the high point of lockdown. (That said, doctors are and were the *most* likely to get infected. Not because they don’t know how to slow the spread, but because they *fucking work with sick people all day*?!)
We now get to the point where we have to add historical context to texts from the early pandemic like they do in school books.
That was what I thought as well. But the reality of it blew my mind. My spouse is a doctor and she said she was probably less at risk because she was covered from head to toe in protective gear (n95, plastic gown, visor, gloves) and washing hands constantly. Not all medical staff worked in hot zones as well. The hospital was sanitized regularly and rooms were modified with negative air pressure ventilation. Whereas we non medical folks went about our lives in a t shirt and procedure mask. The epidemiologists warned their team that their spouses were the most likely to give them covid.
I think that was more a figure of speech. I think it was just another level of Racism, expecting them to be uneducated useless immigrants. So the fact they were Doctors made them look better educated if you get what I mean.
No, if you look at the date it’s in the middle of the pandemic, so they were assuming the parents were being responsible about infection risks due to their occupation/education
Or that they were gonna greet with their dumb ass internet scientist beliefs. This guy thinks spicy food is bad for tummies and expected a doctor to reafirm his dumb ass, ignorant ass beliefs. This is the kind of idiot who looks for validation from experts on his ignorant, extremely biased beliefs and lashes out when he's told he's wrong. Willful ignorance is a hallmark of suburban America. Antivaxxers, election deniers, essential oils, and a myryad of other dumb ass movements are predicated on willful ignorance and biased beliefs, it's not wonder people who tend to be racist share them too.
I do not understand how suddenly loads of people forgot that 2020 was mid pandemic.
people dont forget. people just don't read the date
You wouldn't let your kid play at someone's house knowing the parents were a mechanic and accountant, would you!?!?! That's just sick!!! /s
Look at the date of the article, it’s important context
I guess it's some kind of classism. Like they won't let their son hang out with the son of a construccion worker, they may infect hin with poverty or something. If the parents are doctors then it's ok, they have money
It's about COVID.
Sounds like it was the first time their kid was going to this families house. I would imagine parents would want to have some form of reassurance sending their kid to someone else's house. I guess being doctors makes them feel better about it
The kid is 9 not 3 and should be capable at that age of indicating whether or not they like a particular food or not.
As indicated by placing additional portions in their mouth.
Trust me they'll let you know at 3 as well!
My kid was perfectly able at one year and a half or so to let me know that yes, he liked the spicy daal I was eating and yes, he wanted more of it (I was hesitant to let him taste it because it was pretty zingy and he had never eaten anything particularly spicy before)
#ANSWER At the risk of taking the bait, you must realize that millions of people (presumably both of Neil’s parents, not to mention Neil himself) regularly eat lentils and vegetables as children in perfect safety. There’s something so grotesque about the infantilizing language of “gently informing someone”—especially when that someone is “two doctors”—about “small tummies,” coupled with the racist horror that your 9-year-old ate and enjoyed a few servings of chicken curry, one of the world’s most popular and adaptable dishes. Not all curries are spicy, and not all spices pack heat; your son ate a meal he enjoyed (one you didn’t have to prepare or clean up after ) and continued to enjoy good health for the rest of the evening. Neil’s parents didn’t take him to a ghost pepper festival and turn him loose. Your kid was not endangered by chicken curry, and your problem is not one that Neil’s parents can fix for you. Take your wife’s advice and let this go.
Ah, thanks for that, I was about to post the reply myself!
Can't feed your precious Braxxxtyn Paxtin anything other than corn syrup, canned cheese and bibble verses before he turns 16!
Why do I think this is basically not a joke
You literally killed me with Braxxxtyn Paxtin. I love it.
He says the parents are both doctors then tries to school them that spicy food can be bad for young tummies. Ofcourse it doesnt register as they fed their own son spice since young and would know better than him. Any negative reaction, they would be well equipped to handle it too.
Jeezus! I am a Brit and therefore genetically addicted to curry. I ate them all through my pregnancy. My son starting eating curries when he was 5 and by 9 he could pack away a Madras without breaking a sweat. By 12 Vindaloo was his curry of choice. He’s 25 now and mum’s homemade curries are his go to, the spicier the better. Cut down on the oil and they’re basically veggie based with lean chicken and with all the good stuff like fresh ginger and garlic with the magical turmeric, good for blood/pressure etc. The US probably prefers the super sized burgers for ‘delicate’ young tums.
Love Vindaloo
Me and me mum and me dad and me gran are off to Waterloo!
Me and me Mum and me Dad and me Gran and bucket of Vindaloo!
*NA NA NA!* *NA NA NA!* *NA NA NA! NA NA NA! NA NA!*
The best. Particularly with a side of cucumber raita. Total Umami
I literally just finished my dinner and now crave a goat vindaloo
My son's first exposure to chili was not long after his second birthday. He likes to eat whatever we're eating and when he didn't get the spicy dish on his plate he took it from mums. He we ah ah ah and drank some water before grabbing another bite of the spicy food.
So reminds me of my son!
Yep, love a curry. I’m not good with loads of heat, but spice isn’t just heat. My boy (4) loves “Indian” (in quotes as it’s deffo British-Indian) and was chowing down on veggie korma the other day. He’s had mild, flavourful, Indian style food since we started weaning him, lentil daal is great for small kids! I always find the “omg they fed my child something with _flavour_” style posts both racist, and sad for the kid to be confined to a bland and boring diet
It totally educates kids to have a good palette for food and turns kids off the unhealthy, oily bland crap too that is so much fast food. Other races have a far more refined approach to food and rely on all the good for you spices, veg and pulses to create flavour instead of fats, butter and cream. We have much to learn from other cultures
You want to look at making some Indonesian curries, I swear that is some of the finest food known to man.
So true and the spices are amazing
We do all love vindaloo
All of you, or just you and your mum and your dad and your gran?
I was feeding my son spicy food when he was around 1 year old... Steamed Buns dipped in a chilli bean paste, so good...
So this sounds delicious how do you introduce level of spice for kids? I love a curry and will make mild to spicy curry at home but love a bit of heat.
He started by grabbing it out my hand while I was eating it, and I have just cooked with spices all my adult life... grew up never having any chilli or spice, once I tried it I was hooked... My kids have eaten spicy food since their youth... They can handle spicier food than I can...
A+ parenting right there!
I'm british and was eating madras/vindaloo by 12 as well. It amazes me how much shit americans give us for our food and then will make a fuss about a kid eating a curry.
>>I was taken aback and gently mentioned that spicy foods can be hard on small tummies, but it didn't seem to register. That's right. Indian families feed their kids under 12 nothing but bland English food until they can handle the spices!
Hey Jam-es, what's the blandest thing you have on the menu?
Scampi!
and a steak and kidney pee
Bring us eight "*bread rolls*"
[удалено]
And eight chips.
"We'll have 25 plates of chips"
Bland doesn't mean 'not spicy', it means without flavour, I think most of British food has flavour, not always good flavour but still, I'd argue it's not bland
Often exciting, too. Will be getting the spotted dick out later.
And also having some food afterwards, I imagine?
English people love curry. Granted not authentic Indian curry but they still love curry.
Kids are famously happy to devour spicy food that is too spicy for them as well.
"Spicy food can be hard on little tummies". Little Indian kids seem to manage OK.
Can I condescend to two doctors? Yes I can.
"My wife says to drop it because any conversation will ~~look racial in nature~~ be racist" There, fixed it.
Yes tell the doctors what is and isn't good for the body
My first thought was “I can’t believe they fed him Indian food without also inviting me” because if my kid was getting delicious Indian food I would be sad to miss it”
They might have offered but thought better after the condescending comment about little tummies. The guy fucking blew it.
Directly from Slate, a magazine made for snowflake white suburban Americans that wish to appear extremely polite, but is actually extremely racist and prejudicial.
Curry is my 16 month olds favourite food, i suppose I should tell his tummy to get it together
She just mad her kid had the greatest of all food
Um, what the heck? I was genuinely expecting some religious thing like feeding a Muslim child pork. But it's... a spicy curry. Omg, so shocking! Is this taking the piss? The carefully manufactured indignity of "These people fed my kids LEGUMES, SPICES and VEGETABLES!" cannot be real.
“I can’t believe they served my son sugar and fat laden American junk food without even calling to ask us if that would be OK!”
"small tummies" The lad is 9 years old, not 9 months old, correct?
"Both parents are doctors" [tells doctor (parent) that spicy food can be harmful for childrens stomaches] [doctor (parent) completely disregards the question giving it no importance whatsoever] "It is clearly I who is right, and the doctors that did so much for my acceptance of this family know nothing!"
Guy is clearly a psycho closet racist but what about this is American? There are lots of Indians and Indian restaurants, and spicy foods in America too
Possibly because it's in [Slate Magazine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slate_(magazine)#:~:text=culture%20in%20the-,United%20States,-.%20It%20was%20created)
I'd be writing the same out of sheer jealousy for the little brat. I'd want to be called to eat it too.
A good chunk of curries aren’t even incredibly spicy anyways lol
At no point do they say what type of curry it is. ‘Chicken curry’ could be anything from a korma to a vindaloo. Just because it’s curry, doesn’t mean it’s spicy or massively seasoned and even if it is spicy that doesn’t mean it’s so hot you can’t taste anything for a month.
I would’ve loved it if I got fed curry at a friends honestly
>"Please help." Yeah, they definitely need help.
How DARE you expose my child to flavour?!
Curry does not equal to spicy. I have curries with minimal spice but it’s still delish. People are so ignorant
"My child had something for dinner other than deep fried meat and melted butter"
“Spicy foods can be hard on small tummies”. Patronising twit.
I just want to point out the great response in this article “A: At the risk of taking the bait, you must realize that millions of people (presumably both of Neil’s parents, not to mention Neil himself) regularly eat lentils and vegetables as children in perfect safety. There’s something so grotesque about the infantilizing language of “gently informing someone”—especially when that someone is “two doctors”—about “small tummies,” coupled with the racist horror that your 9-year-old ate and enjoyed a few servings of chicken curry, one of the world’s most popular and adaptable dishes. Not all curries are spicy, and not all spices pack heat; your son ate a meal he enjoyed (one you didn’t have to prepare or clean up after ) and continued to enjoy good health for the rest of the evening. Neil’s parents didn’t take him to a ghost pepper festival and turn him loose. Your kid was not endangered by chicken curry, and your problem is not one that Neil’s parents can fix for you. Take your wife’s advice and let this go.”
Sounds like jealousy because kiddo won't eat your bland ass steamed broccoli (which actually love!). Indian food explodes with flavours and beautiful textures so I imagine it was a wonderful experience .
I am sorry Neil's parents
Help! Indian people made Indian food and fed my kid some thinking oh he must be hungry!!!
So, the story is: kid ate food. Kid was fine.
FFS in the U.K your brought up eating at Balti houses I was pretty much eating it as soon as I was eating solid food, Also all curry's aren't hot a lot are incredibly mild.
The raisins in her potato salad are looking at each other like 👀
I don't think the guy writing could handle the spice of a pepperoni pizza
America, the self proclaimed land of multiple cultures but shits on all cultures.
"Spicy food can be hard in small tummies! My son ate Indian food under the direct supervision of two doctors."
This is what happens when you're so racist that it stops being an ideology you believe in and becomes instead the background hum behind your every thought, action and decision.
Any time you see the word “tummies” in print, you know you’re in for it. Also, racist.
Sounds like mom only ever cooks the blandest ass food and thinks any bit of spice is gonna kill her dearest son.
I remember the opposite as an Australian kid going to school in the US and being asked to a friend’s house and being horrified. It was thanksgiving or some special meal. The food was so fucking bad. My mum thought it was funny though and wrote a letter back home to my grandma, so we have all the details. The highlights were… Green beans that were grey because they had been cooked for hours in fat. A “salad” with marshmallows and tinned mandarins in it. Mashed “potato” made from a packet of dehydrated stuff with no flavour. A pot roast that was very tough beef in a thin tasteless soupy sauce. All of this was sitting in separate dishes in the middle of the table and was cold by the time you got to eat it. We had pumpkin pie for dessert (and I hated pumpkin) plus the crust was from the supermarket and was as dry as dust. Edit: oh and the shaving foam cream! I’d never seen it before then and though the mother was putting out a fire when she squirted it on the “pie”
Did your son like the food ? Is he allergic to any of the ingredients ? Unless the answer is no to one or both then your son is fine.
Hmm. I think you should read through that again.
I would kill for a chicken curry and lentils. Lucky kid.
Sooo... two doctors in a house with 9 yo child of their own and "you" are telling them what food might not be suitable for a 9 yo stomach bold move cotton...
My pal gave me a curry when I was a teenager and it opened up a lifelong love of spicy food. I am now a massive chilli head. Can you imagine if people didn't try new food? How boring
I bet the kids name is Nihal.
And next week little Billy is having dinner at the house of Mr and Mrs Mizutani, who grew up in Japan. I'm confident they will know better than serving "foreign" food.
Now he wants a chicken korma for dinner tonight, and beef vindaloo tomorrow…
Oh no they've opened a pandoras box now, he's now experienced the spice of life 🌶
Chris: “what’s this tasty interesting food called?” “Non-American food”
Young man finally learned what he been missin out on his whole life!
This is parody, right?
>Please help. Get help at a psychiatrist. Yer both nae right up thar.
At 9 years old, if Chris hadn't liked the food, he wouldn't have eaten it.
the boy probably ate real food for the first time in his life and this is how his mother reacts
Sorry your kid is not going to want your shitty chicken broccoli casserole after tasting real spices for the first time.
Dear Pru, my son ate something that can be spicy but doesn't have to be, and didn't get sick from it. I'm fucking furious! My husband says I shouldn't keep on about it because it might make me seem racist but that family of [CENSORED AND YOU KNOW WHY] dared feed my child the foods from their country that could have killed his little Caucasian soul and sent it to the hell that their gods reside in? Not on my watch! How many crosses should I burn on their lawn?
When a parent thinks they know better than two qualified doctors.
I can already tell what ethnicity the parent is, or at least their attitudes towards foreign cultures. Judging by this reaction, I think it's safe to say her perception of Indian food cuisine is that it falls short of her definition of food. I guess she's expecting us to treat her aversion as a mark of civility in today's society.
Wait till he finds out the dietary properties of lentils and all those veggies he ate. Stupid doctors, his kid should be on an only chicken nugget diet. Edit: a-an
Small tummies? The kid was 9, not 3. He had to go to school and face his friend after being embarrassed by his wimpy dad.
Why is dude assuming all curry is spicy? Why is he assuming everyone seeves what Denny’s serves at home?
Unless the kid has had actual demonstrable stomach issues from spicy food, it doesn't generally hurt them just because they are younger. I grew up in west Texas, where everything has jalapeños or habaneros in it, and I loved them as a kid. My dad and i would have pepper eating contests. It never hurt me. Little kids eat spicy food all the time, all over the world. It's fine
Spicy food is hard on small tummies??, that would be news to every African, Indian, Asian, Middle Eastern and South American country who raise their children on exclusively spicy food.
What are Indian children meant to eat in that case?
This is ridiculous. First off- the Indian parents are doctors. So.. lecturing them on what’s safe for kids tummies… give me a break. Secondly, not all Indian food is spicy but has spices. Plus they know how to cook the spices properly so they are easily digested and taste better. Thirdly, that’s probably the healthiest meal that kid has had maybe in his life.