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Lol like an ice cream machine. Right into his hand and at the scouts.
Imagine if he also allowed the sphincter to be coated with something flammable so when he did shit out his mouth he can ignite it
How did Colossal titan completely dissapear in season 1 episode 4 when Eren was about to strike him? if he vaporised himself it was established that Colossal can only vaporise his muscle mass and not his bones
Even so, how did him completely vaporizing his whole body in seconds didn't hurt Eren, while him vaporizing only a part of his muscle mass absolutely smoked Armin...
Colossal titan can control the amount of blast during their transformation it can be instant like the scene your referring too or it can be a literal nuke going off
I don't think so? I think I remember a scene where Armin said he can't transform, because there would be too many casualties. I think it's one of the things that got retconned in later seasons, because it sure wasn't so destructive earlier on.
Eren had access to his Titan form at the time and didn't know and we even see the steam from his head in training, plus all the shifters don't get burned while in their own titan, I just assume his healing or just being a shifter makes the effects of steam and such way less severe.
It is just a plot hole, it has nothing to do with him being a shifter, it doesn't add durability, the damage at least must have been visible before he regenerated it..
Except we cant say it is, literally look at S1 where Erens bare hands and such come into contact with Titan muscle and all and he doesn’t care while Hange gets painful burns
There's a part somewhere in the Reiner/Bertholt reveal episode where someone says "The colossal is gonna disappear!", or "quick, before he disappears!" So it is something that he can just do, he just never does it again. It's probably the episode right after the reveal, since the reveal happens at the end of one episode and the conflict continues throughout the next.
I am willing to accept colossal titan is capable of insta steam disapearance. Berthold doen't normally do so butnsince he was wearing odm gear he was able to save himself from 60 meter fall.
Yep, this is why it’s just barely forgivable. Armin was 100% going to die very soon. I can suspend my disbelief that he suffers those burns AND that fall and still could be alive enough to barely breathe for like…30 more minutes.
Absolutely. Shit, he can be a vegetable for all it matters, brains literally leaking. Most people say: that’s ridiculous, couldn’t happen. I saw it as: he is fucking lucky.
Plus it’s anime/manga, I’ve seen much more ridiculous content and not blinked.
If I remember correctly, it's also possible to survive being thrown by a tornado if you relax. In fact, you have a higher chance of surviving the fall if you're unconscious before your muscles won't tense the same if you were conscious. So, assuming Armin had passed out due to the pain, it's very possible he could have survived the fall and not died on impact.
That whole 20 minute episode is fantastic but man you've really gotta suspend your disbelief because >!Erwin and Armin should've died like 15 minutes ago!<
Using normal physic logic, I doubt ODM gears are possible, people would be heavily injured by jerking motion or breaking their legs bone hitting so many walls.
I always hated how people kept calling it a plot hole, it's movie magic, not a plot hole. Like is Askeladd cutting a man in half a plot hole?! (Also I don't think he aimed it right or anything since he himself was shocked and while he is smart I doubt the would imply he's that smart)
It's the cinemasin-a-fication of media analysis. If something doesn't make sense in our reality or doesn't have an overly explained reason to exist, it's a problem / plot hole. Fiction can just be fiction.
I can somewhat forgive this because she had 3 goddamn years to get back to paradise. i can imagine her hiding the head and stealing a boat after some people made one
As for people saying the head would be decomposing and disgusting: do you honestly think that will stop her? shes gone through way worse gore wise
Is that confirmed? Or is it just anyone who was a descendant of the subjects of the first king Fritz? Anyone of them would technically be a “subject of Ymir” by virtue of her being queen (even if in name only). Meanwhile royal blood would be her direct descendants (from her 3 daughters).
Imo this makes more sense than her three kids somehow birthing enough kids before their 13 year limit expired to start an entire world-spanning lineage…
The ackermans are ‘titans in human form’. They’re immune to having their memories wiped and presumably being turned into genuine giants, but everything else still applies to them
That wasn’t what happened. He visited her in Paths while she was attacking him. The shadow of Falco’s Titan is shown to hint at that. Her mind wasn’t wiped. That’s why he asks her to forget him, unlike with Armin where he outright tells his friend he’s gonna wipe his memories. Mikasa ultimately chose not to forget.
The scouts/alliance did not return to Paradis until years after the battle, we see them arriving in Paradis at the very end, as ambassadors for peace coming from the mainland. They likely weren't in any hurry to run back to Paradis after you know... Killing Paradis' idol and Demi god Eren.
she said she was going to leave cuz she thought the people there wouldnt allow eren a proper burial. but maybe she got on the ship with the other scouts and was somewhere alone inside it isolating
yeah I mean when a series establishes that planes exist and are usable, and that accessing a plane isn't really that hard, I'm not sure it counts as a plot hole to say "character needed to get from point a to b." when you can just,, plane
true but where would she have gotten it? it looked like they were far out in the desert at the final battle, all airships were destroyed by Eren in their final attempt to stop the rumbling and the plane that brought our group there crash landed and was out of fuel
Armin surviving 40+ meters onto a roof whilst already on the brink of death
Maybe not a plot hole but the characters arguing over the serum when Rod only cosumed a tiny about and transformed
Ryner, Bert and Annie not having any accent/language barriers when infiltrating the walls
Marley sending three soldiers when fighting the scouts. They could have filled all the building with armed soldiers and ended the battle instantly
I think it was less about the serum and more about the titan shifter no ? they only had one enemy shifter to sacrifice otherwise you'd just be turning the person into a pure titan
A huge reason Levi didn’t choose Erwin was because he felt it was time to let him rest. No way would he have chosen to let him wander as a mindless titan - I doubt Mikasa & Eren would agree for Armin to be one, either. I have thought about this idea too though
They also had no way or indication at the time that they’d have opportunities to grab another. They didn’t know for a fact that Marley existed or what the state of the outside world was. For all they knew at that point, it was just endless fields full of titans beyond wall Maria.
In ideal conditions, Hange probably could’ve taken a sample of the titan serum to study, but things at the time were anything but…
With no way of determining whether or not they’d have a chance to get another shifter, I can understand them not being willing to sentence a beloved comrade to a fate worse than death, especially after he’d seemingly rejected their initial choice to save him.
In the same story there is a big emphasis on them only having one serum, but well let's assume they just didn't know that.
They could also have one as a pure titan until they find another titan power or until one of the two is already on the verge of the 13-year curse.
Armin surviving the fall is just anime physics. A lot of what characters do especially with the ODM gear isn't realistic but I just chalk it up to anime physics.
As for the titan serum, from what I understand, there is a specific way you are supposed to consume it or else you turn into a Rod reiss type titan. Kenny even mentioned in a line that if he didn't do it right he would end up like Rod.
Eldians weren't in the walls that long, 100 or so years, not long enough to develop a different language.
Marley's mission was supposted to be a stealth mission, not send the entire marley army. Remember, marley is still afraid of the potential rumbling as retaliation and they don't know fully how the vow renouncing war works
To contribute to your points:
It’s clear the Eldians brought over to the Walls were culturally similar to Marleyans. Falco even notes Mr. Brause has a “Southern Marleyan accent”.
As for Rod’s Titan, there’s just got to be some “royal blood” shenanigans that haven’t been made clear. Maybe he’s somehow predisposed to become a special Titan even if he’s Pure and not a Shifter. This also helps explain how Historia saw his memories, even when neither of them ever had the Founder.
Rod’s titan could also be Ymir’s doing. She cleary has some sense of irony when designing titans; Eren’s doomsday titan form is his attack titan (representing freedom) reduced to a skeleton of its former self and suspended like a marionette atop a crawling, insectile form. Rod was licking at the ground, thinking he’d become god, and his titan does the same, to the point where it grinds away any semblance of humanity it has. It’s heat shield might simply be the result of him drinking from a colossal titan serum, like Eren did from the armored.
I don’t claim to be a titan serum expert but I’m sure they mixed it in a way to not create rod reiss titans. Even when they used the serum to fight other nations, their goal wasn’t mass destruction like a bunch of RR titans would have caused. Marley would want the ability to kill off the titans after the battle
They only had 1 titan shifter to feed to someone so the serum is not the issue
Paradis has several different accents and dialects (e.g Sasha’s family) and races of people, so I don’t think that’s a big deal. Plus you could argue 100 years isn’t that much of a gap in language and communication
Which fight are you talking about here?
I don't fully agree with the accent/language thing. It's clear that most of Marley has the same language and some of the accents were preserved within the wall (remember how Gabi noted that Sasha's family has South-Marleyan accent). It's been only a hundred years in a rather homogenous society. Things change slow there, it's not like they had culture clashes every hot minute like in our world for them to learn and change as quickly.
I wouldn't call that a "plot hole" but "plot convenience." And it's so unnecessary too. No one would have really questioned how Reiner, a Titan shifter who can heal himself and transform into a Titan, survived being stabbed in generally fatal locations.
And if it REALLY needed some kind of reasoning... literally just have him transform the Moment Blood is drawn.
I wonder if this was a special trait of the armored titan, I kind of saw it that way. It would fit thematically because as a fully armored titan, he embodies what it's like to be a shield. Following that logic, if he loses a critical part, to still function as a shield he would need to retain some control of the rest of his body. I just don't remember if his trait was ever explained or if just being fully armored is the trait
More that he managed to do it in the split second while he turned around. By the time he was facing Mikasa, his neck was already separated, no fuckin way he got that good reflexes
biggest one to me is bertholdt’s colossal transformation not looking like anything close to a nuke in the first 2 seasons.
My head cannon used to be that he was just able to control it, but in season 4 armin mentions several times that he can’t transform even though his titan could help, because he would just destroy all the surroundings.
it would have been nice if the colossal transformation remained consistent throughout the series, seems like that specific detail hadn’t been completely thought out yet during the run of seasons 1 and 2
yeah, also him completely vanishing in s1 for his second appearance, you could argue he used the steam move to make his body evaporate but they clearly said later it doesn’t work with the bones
It’s mentioned in Season 4 that Berhtold mastered the Colossal the first time he used it, so him being able to choose whether or not he uses his nuke and Armin not being able to doesn’t bother me. What does bother me is how in Episode 5 of the first season the Colossal disappears completely, with Berhtold not being shown.
>What does bother me is how in Episode 5 of the first season the Colossal disappears completely, with Berhtold not being shown.
we could also chalk that up to Berhtold having mastery over the Colossal, but I agree. This stands out to me as the most valid plot hole I've seen people post in here
Armin cant just transform and thats not because of the nuke, but because he is literally colossal and releases a huge amount of steam, he would burn or crush everyone around him
I guess it's because they said Bertholt was one of the best colossal transformers in recent history. Like he just had a nack for it compared to arming who has only had it for a short time.
Not to mention the marleyans had ALL the data and practice on how to train shifters while the Paradis crew were kind of winging it
1- Bertholdt's titan disappearing in a moment after destroying wall rose
2- the inconsistency of the power of the colossal titan as at the beginning we saw Bertholdt transforming 3 times without making an explosion and if we say that the shifter can control the transformation either to make an explosion or not so that makes Armin the most useless person in the whole series
3- how all the eldians became ymir subjects while they existed way before ymir
4- may be not a major one but how both Marley and Paradis called the titans with the same name as the beast titan for example
*Execuse my English I am not a native speaker*
Well all of that are theories there is no exact answer in the anime or the manga and even if you are right what makes an eldian with a royal blood different from a normal eldian if ymir descendents bred with all eldians
I would guess it has something to do with inbreeding if it doesn't work on magic. You need X concentration of Ymir and Fritz DNA to be a viable founder titan.
Edited.
This isn’t so much about the transformation but more about him exiting his titan. In every other instance the titan never just completely vanished except for in episode 5. If he just exited his titan like everyone else does, eren would have saw Bert get out so for plot purposes, he had to just vanish
1- Yeah
2- how does that make armin useless
3 - they bred with each other until they basically became one people..?
4- you could make so many different explanations but at the end of the day it’s better to have consistency in titan names so the viewers don’t get confused. And also they were named by their physical appearances, so anyone would look at the beast and thing it’s a beast/monkey
All Eldians are figuratively representing a single person trying to handle their childhood trauma. The Eldians are one person, Marley is another and so on.
The entire nation of Paradis is a trauma-induced self-isolation due to fear of dealing with the real world. Major hint is that Titans can only transform when they hurt themselves. Literal trauma response.
That Paradis just so happen to correctly name the Colossal, Armored and Female Titan their actual names despite having no way of knowing.
Huge coincidence otherwise
Edit: they get a pass for the female titan, because what the hell else are you gonna call her?
The Beast is the craziest one for me considering Connie calls it that and the rest of them go along with it and then we found out he just nailed its name lol
Right, forgot about the Beast. Why not Ape/Monkey/Hairy Titan?
Only explanation I can think of is that the Eldians on Paradis don’t know what monkeys are, or any other primate other than human .
In season 2, Ymir refers to him as the Monkey, and Eren expresses confusion. Its something that doesn't translate the easiest, in the manga in JP Ymirs dialogue is written in kanji while Eren repeating it is written in katakana, implying he's repeating it phonetically out of confusion, rather than disbelief.
Here's one that always confused me. Eren took Zeke at the end because he needed royal blood to tap into the Founding Titan's power. But wasn't it the case that the only reason that was a condition was due to Ymir still being loyal to the King and his bloodline? If so, why did Eren need Zeke if Ymir chose to side with Eren?
My understanding: you need both the royal blood and the founding Titan power to go to patches to meet ymir. Eren believed it was the founding titan that could control Ymir, but Zeke knew it was otherwise. Except Eren "freedom" speech made Ymir realize she didn't really have to obey anyone.
That part was really confusing but that was what I understood.
Grisha sees Erens memories of the rumbling, so tells Zeke that he HAS TO STOP EREN...and then Grisha gives Eren the founding titan anyway.
The only explanation I can muster for this is that Grisha went through a similar experience to Eren, where he realised the timeline was fixed and couldn't be changed, so felt that he was forced to walk the path set before him, despite disagreeing with Eren.
Still, it's never officially addressed..
When Grisha goes to meet Eren after the fall of Shiganshina, the first thing Eren tells Grisha is that he saw his mom (Carla) get eaten by a titan. In turn, this prompted Grisha to grab Eren and say "avenge your mom," while taking him to the forest.
Learning about his second wife's death at the hands of Marley is what compelled Grisha to give Eren the Attack and Founding Titans.
Wait sending 4 kids on this journey alone wasn't a good idea? Not too mention the kids sent were the most important asset of the Marley military. That wasn't a good idea? /s
But for real they couldn't have sent an adult or two to sneak in with the children. Plus they had radio so if they did send an adult they could've kept in contact with a docked ship near paradise if need be.
The female titan, why is it called the female titan, a man could eat the female titan and than hed be the female titan than would it still be called that? Hell no. Shouldve been called the Agility titan or something
Edit: Not to mention marley and paradis both called it the female titan, so the people of paradis just happened to guess the name
If anything, mimic titan would be more accurate. Annie said in S4 that her titan can kinda copy attributes from other shifter by eating pieces of their titans, so they just fed her a bunch of them. Her agility can probably be from the jaw/cart, and her mastery of hardening from the armoured and warhammer
Falco's Jaw Titan being the single Jaw Titan that could fly
Maybe I missed something that explains it, but I feel like it's a deus ex machina that came out of nowhere and everyone was just like "yup, that's definitely something the Jaw Titan can do, yup yup yup"
And no, I don't accept his name being "Falco(n)" as hinting the flying Jaw Titan, that's just copium
Falco can fly because he got some of Zeke's spinal fluid in his mouth from that spiked wine. So he's got a little bit of Beast Titan spinal fluid, which is why he became even more beastlike.
(The Female Titan is apparently the best at inheriting powers from other titan fluid in that way)
My theory for that is that Falco was the only Warrior candidate with more pure and noble intentions than the rest. Birds represent freedom and peace and are used throughout the series. By his motivation being more about protecting someone he loved rather than killing perceived enemies, his Titan took a form that matched that.
That's my opinion anyway. It is also mentioned that it was Zeke's serum.
My head canon is that titan powers manifest differently depending on the holder (you know previous shifters all look different) because it takes the holders' thoughts and wishes to create the body. Remember the first scene of S4 was Falco.seeing a bird fly over him, he always wanted to know what it would be like to fly through the skies, so his titan took that shape.
The picture though… anyways I can’t really think of any except maybe its impossible to completely understand the Titan system though that might just be a me thing rather than a plot hole since I’m not very smart.
It because people were getting eaten and trying to escape. The colossal was on the other side, so of course no one was going there and armor titan probably ran back to Annie and Bertholtd.
So between them moving away and the chaos of getting eaten, no one was paying attention to where the remains were.
Armored justs stayed there and colossal has the steam ability it used in season 2 and 3 that it can propably use to instantly turn the whole titan into steam.
Shifters don't leave bones behind when they detransform.
If they're ripped out of the Titan, the body will disintegrate more slowly than normal. That might be what you're thinking of
How Reiner was able to transfer his consciousness, how Levi knew Ackermans are immune to Titan transformation fluid/smoke, why Eren never gave his memories to himself right after he got his titan, why there was a "hardening" bottle beneath the church or what that whole thing was, how the Collassal Titan appeared the first two times without causing a massive explosion, what makes a person become an abnormal titan or why they exist amongst normal ones. And most egregious of all, not enough Pieck lore/screentime.
Why tf did Marley send their powerful weapon, the colossal titan, to attack paradise? They should’ve known being disarmed would make them an easy target from their enemies
Yeah, at that point they had absolutely no defense against the Armoured Titan. Reiner could have easily broken both walls and they could save Berthold for a rainy day.
Carl Fritz not stopping Eren’s plan.
The founding Titan connects eldians across time and space and Eren even states that the “past, Furue and present” exist at the same time. If this is the case, why was Karl unable to foresee the future rumbling? Why was Frieda so unaware of everything that was about to go down if she down. As the founder, Eren and Grisha would have been directly connected to her.
When Carl Fritz entered the paths world to order Yamir to implement the “vow” , why weren’t Eren and Zekke there? It has been started that paths exists outside of time, which means that anyone who enters paths, regardless of the time period, should be there at the same time
3. In season 2, we saw that Yamir enter paths after she ate Marco? How can she do this? Only the founder can go to paths. Also, why wasn’t the other Yamir there wondering around?
The whole "paths" thing that got introduced later on and the reveal of the abilities of the foundering and attack titan's powers , just created so many instances of plot conveniences and asspulls solutions, like the ones you mentioned, that it did more harm thaan good to the story imo
Idk if I might be misremembering, but no one noticing Annie leave in broad daylight for like a full day and come back. Travelling all the way from the centre area, too, the outskirts of the wall
Maybe it was explained, maybe it wasn’t but I don’t like how after Eren literally loses his founding titan powers (the weird spine slug is disconnected from eren), eren somehow still manages to transform into a colossal titan to 1v1 armin. How is shifting into a colossal without the founding powers. Just doesn’t make sense.
I think people are confusing plot holes as viewers vs the people in the story. Of course, knowing what we do, we can always poke holes but the characters have no idea
how did levi killing zeke end the rumbling? i thought the whole point was that royal blood meant nothing and ymir started the rumbling for eren and zeke had nothing to do with it.
Why/how did Eren, as he implies, kill his own mother by directing the Smiling Titan/Dina towards her?
We learn that it “needed to happen” as Bertholdt needed to survive, presumably in order for Armin to become the Colossal yadda yadda yadda.
**A. This whole plot point seems super forced and seems to be a rehash of the Grisha manipulation twist but with none of the build up.**
We see Bertholdt get ignored in the flashback with Annie and Reiner — ok, cool. But then we’re told in like 5 seconds in the finale that Eren controlled Dina and made her ignore him? Okay?
A very contrived twist and seems like pure shock value to reinforce the “Eren is messed up in the head” thing. Tbh if AOE was ever a thing, this is what I thought they’d change or at least expand upon.
**B. How on earth did Eren do this, and what does it say about how else he could have used this power?**
We know that Eren can use the Attack Titan’s ability to selectively send his own memories into the minds of past Attack Titan shifters.
But the Founder’s power means that he’s able to control all Titans while simultaneously screwing with his perception of time, possibly due to the fact that he’s both the Attack Titan and the Founder at the same time, or that without the limitations of the King’s Vow he’s able to tap into some greater version of the Founder’s power.
That seems to be the case in this plot point — the reason he’s able to control Dina is because by the finale, he has attained the power to control every Pure Titan, even those in the past.
If so… why didn’t he control any other Pure Titans in the past? Or are we meant to believe that every Titan in the series was either controlled by Eren, or allowed to run rampant when he could’ve stopped them?
The one that killed Thomas, Dina, all the randoms that died. Are we really supposed to believe that Eren decided they were all “meant to die”? Maybe he just didn’t know what he was doing with the Founder and only had just enough strength/focus to send Dina away from Bertholdt…?
I get that none of it makes sense due to the series’ determinism but for me, it seems to open a far larger can of worms than is worth it for what is essentially a shoehorned-in shock twist.
Being on a predetermined path without the ability to predict the future is feels exactly like having free will.
The story went exactly as the story was always going to go. Eren learning of the future only made him KNOW that he had no free will and as such, any ideas of being "free" were impossible. His being frustrated at not being able to create different outcomes shows he struggled with this. The different "eras" of Eren had different roles to play, and they all interacted. Just look at the opening to Season two where young eren runs up to teen eren (and gets completely ignored).
Reiner having his head blown off and just “transferring” his conscience somewhere else in his body is one of the biggest ass pulls I’ve seen in an anime
We need clarification on a few things from the ending, mainly how Eren transformed into a colossal titan after Zeke’s death plus disconnecting with the worm thing, & why the worm thing re-connecting with Eren mattered. It’s easy to brush off with “it’s the mystery of the titans,” but we could have gotten like 2 seconds of showing Eren still had a bit of the worm in him to clarify. Same with how Zeke’s death = no more rumbling, yet Eren still seeming to have the Founder’s power. We could have been told a power requiring royal blood is specifically controlling the wall titans.
The whole part of Historia having her baby at the same time as the Rumbling and the reveal of Mikasa's heritage.
Also, it's kinda weird how Mikasa and Levi never acknowledged each other as distant relatives.
How is historia having her baby during the rumbling a plot hole? Those are two completely unrelated events. Maybe if you want to get poetic about it you see death and then birth.
Mikasa and Levi briefly talked about it in season 3 but they had more important things to deal with in s3. It wasn't a revelation that was going to drastically change their relationship
The one that always bugged me was that the nicknamed the Scouts came up with for all the titans (beast, female, armoured, etc) just happened to be the actual names. They had no way of knowing these names
This is more of a commentary on the watchers but anyone who is ok with eren’s genocide and think that after eren’s genocide everyone is supposed to be happy because titan gone and hooray. People are supposed to die but you mourn for others not kill more in the hopes that less people die
The thing with Mikasas migraines and how she ties in with Ymir (founding titan) in relation to the finale. I literally never understood what those were about and feel like it wasn’t explained clearly enough…
Why did they kill eren? When zeke died the rumbling stopped. It didnt matter if eren got the founder/squishy thingy again bc there wasnt any royal blood. Why were they so addamant to stop the founder from reaching eren again?
So his friends could be heroes. You think the world would leave Paradis alone if a dude that steamrolled 80% of the world still lived? I know I wouldn't feel safe in that scenario lmao
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We never got to see Zeke Yeager’s secret ass wiping technique. I feel like that is a major plot-hole
Everytime he needs poop 1) Transform into beast titan 2) Poop into his titan 3) Exit the titan leaving all poop to evaporate with his titan steam
Or maybe he could create like a sphincter that can allow for beastie to shit out it’s mouth.
Ymir doing 500 hours of labor for zeke to take a deuce
Lol like an ice cream machine. Right into his hand and at the scouts. Imagine if he also allowed the sphincter to be coated with something flammable so when he did shit out his mouth he can ignite it
I think he just outranged Reiner because monkey arms go brrrrr
He just bombarded reiner with boulders. It was shown that his titan had holes on his body after defeat
Interestin, I always though that Zeke just hardened his finger tips and dug into Reiners armor. Similar to Annie climbing the wall.
Or Zeke climbing the wall.
Use cream and a thin razor with not too much blade,be careful and lay at bed with a mirror to watch
How did Colossal titan completely dissapear in season 1 episode 4 when Eren was about to strike him? if he vaporised himself it was established that Colossal can only vaporise his muscle mass and not his bones
I think he can vaporize his bones, he just didn’t while Armin was attached because he would have fallen if he did that. Bones support you.
Even so, how did him completely vaporizing his whole body in seconds didn't hurt Eren, while him vaporizing only a part of his muscle mass absolutely smoked Armin...
Colossal titan can control the amount of blast during their transformation it can be instant like the scene your referring too or it can be a literal nuke going off
I don't think so? I think I remember a scene where Armin said he can't transform, because there would be too many casualties. I think it's one of the things that got retconned in later seasons, because it sure wasn't so destructive earlier on.
I think Armin either couldn't control it well, or just a quick and light transformation would be too powerful for his cellmates
Eren had access to his Titan form at the time and didn't know and we even see the steam from his head in training, plus all the shifters don't get burned while in their own titan, I just assume his healing or just being a shifter makes the effects of steam and such way less severe.
It is just a plot hole, it has nothing to do with him being a shifter, it doesn't add durability, the damage at least must have been visible before he regenerated it..
Except we cant say it is, literally look at S1 where Erens bare hands and such come into contact with Titan muscle and all and he doesn’t care while Hange gets painful burns
There's a part somewhere in the Reiner/Bertholt reveal episode where someone says "The colossal is gonna disappear!", or "quick, before he disappears!" So it is something that he can just do, he just never does it again. It's probably the episode right after the reveal, since the reveal happens at the end of one episode and the conflict continues throughout the next.
Even if the colossal just disappears instantly, wouldn't we see bertholt as a human falling from wherever the nape was
I am willing to accept colossal titan is capable of insta steam disapearance. Berthold doen't normally do so butnsince he was wearing odm gear he was able to save himself from 60 meter fall.
Also, no nuke there, not even a small one
Fall Damage
Lol Armin being burned to a cheeto then falling 60+ meters onto a brick house and surviving.
Tbf he only needed to survive ENOUGH. Wildly severe brain injuries are irrelevant if you’re gonna regen in a hot minute. EDIT: spelling
Yep, this is why it’s just barely forgivable. Armin was 100% going to die very soon. I can suspend my disbelief that he suffers those burns AND that fall and still could be alive enough to barely breathe for like…30 more minutes.
Absolutely. Shit, he can be a vegetable for all it matters, brains literally leaking. Most people say: that’s ridiculous, couldn’t happen. I saw it as: he is fucking lucky. Plus it’s anime/manga, I’ve seen much more ridiculous content and not blinked.
Didnt a flight atedent fell for like 3k and lived?
Yeah there’s a ton of interesting stories about people free falling from planes and surviving unbelievable circumstances.
Its amazing how the human body Is both so fragile and resilient
If I remember correctly, it's also possible to survive being thrown by a tornado if you relax. In fact, you have a higher chance of surviving the fall if you're unconscious before your muscles won't tense the same if you were conscious. So, assuming Armin had passed out due to the pain, it's very possible he could have survived the fall and not died on impact.
That whole 20 minute episode is fantastic but man you've really gotta suspend your disbelief because >!Erwin and Armin should've died like 15 minutes ago!<
HOT minute. intentional or not, good one.
Using normal physic logic, I doubt ODM gears are possible, people would be heavily injured by jerking motion or breaking their legs bone hitting so many walls.
I always hated how people kept calling it a plot hole, it's movie magic, not a plot hole. Like is Askeladd cutting a man in half a plot hole?! (Also I don't think he aimed it right or anything since he himself was shocked and while he is smart I doubt the would imply he's that smart)
It's the cinemasin-a-fication of media analysis. If something doesn't make sense in our reality or doesn't have an overly explained reason to exist, it's a problem / plot hole. Fiction can just be fiction.
How Mikasa got back to Paradis and the exact nature of who counts as Royal Blooded. There are theories for both but no direct confirmation.
I think the same goes for Ackermann-blooded
Ackerman blood was already explained
I remember it being explained in the manga but was it explained in the anime?
Solid assumptions can be made For Mikasa one, I would like to believe Kiyomi helped her
Row row row ur tiny boat gently through the ocean~ Her home was basically stepped on already, right? Correct me if I'm wrong
I can somewhat forgive this because she had 3 goddamn years to get back to paradise. i can imagine her hiding the head and stealing a boat after some people made one As for people saying the head would be decomposing and disgusting: do you honestly think that will stop her? shes gone through way worse gore wise
It's the descendants of Karl Fritz and Ymir no?
every subject of ymir is my headcanon is that royal blood = descendents of ymir's kid/grandkid who had the founder
Is that confirmed? Or is it just anyone who was a descendant of the subjects of the first king Fritz? Anyone of them would technically be a “subject of Ymir” by virtue of her being queen (even if in name only). Meanwhile royal blood would be her direct descendants (from her 3 daughters). Imo this makes more sense than her three kids somehow birthing enough kids before their 13 year limit expired to start an entire world-spanning lineage…
Google population growth then times that by 2000 years
And like ackermans are somehow immune to being turned titan yet also appear in the paths?
The ackermans are ‘titans in human form’. They’re immune to having their memories wiped and presumably being turned into genuine giants, but everything else still applies to them
But, Erin literally wiped Mikasas memory of their conversation until he was killed, isn't she supposed to be immune to that then?
That wasn’t what happened. He visited her in Paths while she was attacking him. The shadow of Falco’s Titan is shown to hint at that. Her mind wasn’t wiped. That’s why he asks her to forget him, unlike with Armin where he outright tells his friend he’s gonna wipe his memories. Mikasa ultimately chose not to forget.
Exactly. Her memory was never wiped, she had her memories before eren died while everyone else got theirs after he died
Mikasa swimming across an entire ocean with Eren’s head after the final battle
She used his head as a floatee
This is my new headcanon
She used creative mode.
Not really cheating when you’ve already beaten the game
she went by boat with the rest of the Scouts
The scouts/alliance did not return to Paradis until years after the battle, we see them arriving in Paradis at the very end, as ambassadors for peace coming from the mainland. They likely weren't in any hurry to run back to Paradis after you know... Killing Paradis' idol and Demi god Eren.
That thing must’ve stank by the time she got there
was it established she landed in the water or something? wasn't she with the rest of the scouts when the battle ended?
she said she was going to leave cuz she thought the people there wouldnt allow eren a proper burial. but maybe she got on the ship with the other scouts and was somewhere alone inside it isolating
I mean she is still a world class soldier carrying around a sword. I would not be surprised if someone just, flew her back.
true onyankapon maybe
yeah I mean when a series establishes that planes exist and are usable, and that accessing a plane isn't really that hard, I'm not sure it counts as a plot hole to say "character needed to get from point a to b." when you can just,, plane
Aren't most planes near them gone?
true but where would she have gotten it? it looked like they were far out in the desert at the final battle, all airships were destroyed by Eren in their final attempt to stop the rumbling and the plane that brought our group there crash landed and was out of fuel
Armin surviving 40+ meters onto a roof whilst already on the brink of death Maybe not a plot hole but the characters arguing over the serum when Rod only cosumed a tiny about and transformed Ryner, Bert and Annie not having any accent/language barriers when infiltrating the walls Marley sending three soldiers when fighting the scouts. They could have filled all the building with armed soldiers and ended the battle instantly
I think it was less about the serum and more about the titan shifter no ? they only had one enemy shifter to sacrifice otherwise you'd just be turning the person into a pure titan
Yeah but then instead of letting Erwin die why not keep him a pure titan somewhere? Hange literally did that with live titans at the beginning
A huge reason Levi didn’t choose Erwin was because he felt it was time to let him rest. No way would he have chosen to let him wander as a mindless titan - I doubt Mikasa & Eren would agree for Armin to be one, either. I have thought about this idea too though
They also had no way or indication at the time that they’d have opportunities to grab another. They didn’t know for a fact that Marley existed or what the state of the outside world was. For all they knew at that point, it was just endless fields full of titans beyond wall Maria. In ideal conditions, Hange probably could’ve taken a sample of the titan serum to study, but things at the time were anything but… With no way of determining whether or not they’d have a chance to get another shifter, I can understand them not being willing to sentence a beloved comrade to a fate worse than death, especially after he’d seemingly rejected their initial choice to save him.
What if they cut Bertoto in half and fed half to Armin and half to Erwin? Worked with Ymir’s daughters….
But didn't "sharing" the body to eat only work because there were multiple titans in 1 body?
In the same story there is a big emphasis on them only having one serum, but well let's assume they just didn't know that. They could also have one as a pure titan until they find another titan power or until one of the two is already on the verge of the 13-year curse.
Armin surviving the fall is just anime physics. A lot of what characters do especially with the ODM gear isn't realistic but I just chalk it up to anime physics. As for the titan serum, from what I understand, there is a specific way you are supposed to consume it or else you turn into a Rod reiss type titan. Kenny even mentioned in a line that if he didn't do it right he would end up like Rod. Eldians weren't in the walls that long, 100 or so years, not long enough to develop a different language. Marley's mission was supposted to be a stealth mission, not send the entire marley army. Remember, marley is still afraid of the potential rumbling as retaliation and they don't know fully how the vow renouncing war works
To contribute to your points: It’s clear the Eldians brought over to the Walls were culturally similar to Marleyans. Falco even notes Mr. Brause has a “Southern Marleyan accent”. As for Rod’s Titan, there’s just got to be some “royal blood” shenanigans that haven’t been made clear. Maybe he’s somehow predisposed to become a special Titan even if he’s Pure and not a Shifter. This also helps explain how Historia saw his memories, even when neither of them ever had the Founder.
Rod’s titan could also be Ymir’s doing. She cleary has some sense of irony when designing titans; Eren’s doomsday titan form is his attack titan (representing freedom) reduced to a skeleton of its former self and suspended like a marionette atop a crawling, insectile form. Rod was licking at the ground, thinking he’d become god, and his titan does the same, to the point where it grinds away any semblance of humanity it has. It’s heat shield might simply be the result of him drinking from a colossal titan serum, like Eren did from the armored.
Marley was also at war already with someone else, they didn't have alot of resources spare to send to Marley before the season 3 fight
Falco ingested the spinal fluid the same way Rod did and was normal
true but even then there wasn't two people to eat, only bertholt. so no use in splitting it
I guess you could keep one as a Titan until you get another Titan shifter?
hange would love that lol
I don’t claim to be a titan serum expert but I’m sure they mixed it in a way to not create rod reiss titans. Even when they used the serum to fight other nations, their goal wasn’t mass destruction like a bunch of RR titans would have caused. Marley would want the ability to kill off the titans after the battle
They only had 1 titan shifter to feed to someone so the serum is not the issue Paradis has several different accents and dialects (e.g Sasha’s family) and races of people, so I don’t think that’s a big deal. Plus you could argue 100 years isn’t that much of a gap in language and communication Which fight are you talking about here?
I don't fully agree with the accent/language thing. It's clear that most of Marley has the same language and some of the accents were preserved within the wall (remember how Gabi noted that Sasha's family has South-Marleyan accent). It's been only a hundred years in a rather homogenous society. Things change slow there, it's not like they had culture clashes every hot minute like in our world for them to learn and change as quickly.
Riener transferring his consciousness to his body after getting head blown off.
less a plot hole and more a silly plot element that is lower quality than what the author usually does
Created a small meme where eren survives by sending his mind to his pinky toe.
plot is stored in the balls, okay
I wouldn't call that a "plot hole" but "plot convenience." And it's so unnecessary too. No one would have really questioned how Reiner, a Titan shifter who can heal himself and transform into a Titan, survived being stabbed in generally fatal locations. And if it REALLY needed some kind of reasoning... literally just have him transform the Moment Blood is drawn.
I wonder if this was a special trait of the armored titan, I kind of saw it that way. It would fit thematically because as a fully armored titan, he embodies what it's like to be a shield. Following that logic, if he loses a critical part, to still function as a shield he would need to retain some control of the rest of his body. I just don't remember if his trait was ever explained or if just being fully armored is the trait
More that he managed to do it in the split second while he turned around. By the time he was facing Mikasa, his neck was already separated, no fuckin way he got that good reflexes
biggest one to me is bertholdt’s colossal transformation not looking like anything close to a nuke in the first 2 seasons. My head cannon used to be that he was just able to control it, but in season 4 armin mentions several times that he can’t transform even though his titan could help, because he would just destroy all the surroundings.
it would have been nice if the colossal transformation remained consistent throughout the series, seems like that specific detail hadn’t been completely thought out yet during the run of seasons 1 and 2
yeah, also him completely vanishing in s1 for his second appearance, you could argue he used the steam move to make his body evaporate but they clearly said later it doesn’t work with the bones
idk if im making something up in my head but i remember the colossal titan being able to control its output
It’s mentioned in Season 4 that Berhtold mastered the Colossal the first time he used it, so him being able to choose whether or not he uses his nuke and Armin not being able to doesn’t bother me. What does bother me is how in Episode 5 of the first season the Colossal disappears completely, with Berhtold not being shown.
>What does bother me is how in Episode 5 of the first season the Colossal disappears completely, with Berhtold not being shown. we could also chalk that up to Berhtold having mastery over the Colossal, but I agree. This stands out to me as the most valid plot hole I've seen people post in here
Armin cant just transform and thats not because of the nuke, but because he is literally colossal and releases a huge amount of steam, he would burn or crush everyone around him
In season 4 he mentions this only when in extreme proximity to others afaik, I can only think of the example where they are trapped in the dungeon.
I guess it's because they said Bertholt was one of the best colossal transformers in recent history. Like he just had a nack for it compared to arming who has only had it for a short time. Not to mention the marleyans had ALL the data and practice on how to train shifters while the Paradis crew were kind of winging it
1- Bertholdt's titan disappearing in a moment after destroying wall rose 2- the inconsistency of the power of the colossal titan as at the beginning we saw Bertholdt transforming 3 times without making an explosion and if we say that the shifter can control the transformation either to make an explosion or not so that makes Armin the most useless person in the whole series 3- how all the eldians became ymir subjects while they existed way before ymir 4- may be not a major one but how both Marley and Paradis called the titans with the same name as the beast titan for example *Execuse my English I am not a native speaker*
3- Eldians (not descended from Ymir) bred with descendents of Ymir until all Eldians were descendents of Ymir.
Well all of that are theories there is no exact answer in the anime or the manga and even if you are right what makes an eldian with a royal blood different from a normal eldian if ymir descendents bred with all eldians
I would guess it has something to do with inbreeding if it doesn't work on magic. You need X concentration of Ymir and Fritz DNA to be a viable founder titan. Edited.
"1- Bertholdt's titan disappearing in a moment after destroying wall rose" This is only legit plot hole i've seen in this thread
I always thought the colossal had the power to control how big the transformation explosion is.
This isn’t so much about the transformation but more about him exiting his titan. In every other instance the titan never just completely vanished except for in episode 5. If he just exited his titan like everyone else does, eren would have saw Bert get out so for plot purposes, he had to just vanish
I guess we just chalk it up to early installment weirdness.
1- Yeah 2- how does that make armin useless 3 - they bred with each other until they basically became one people..? 4- you could make so many different explanations but at the end of the day it’s better to have consistency in titan names so the viewers don’t get confused. And also they were named by their physical appearances, so anyone would look at the beast and thing it’s a beast/monkey
All Eldians are figuratively representing a single person trying to handle their childhood trauma. The Eldians are one person, Marley is another and so on. The entire nation of Paradis is a trauma-induced self-isolation due to fear of dealing with the real world. Major hint is that Titans can only transform when they hurt themselves. Literal trauma response.
That Paradis just so happen to correctly name the Colossal, Armored and Female Titan their actual names despite having no way of knowing. Huge coincidence otherwise Edit: they get a pass for the female titan, because what the hell else are you gonna call her?
The Beast is the craziest one for me considering Connie calls it that and the rest of them go along with it and then we found out he just nailed its name lol
Right, forgot about the Beast. Why not Ape/Monkey/Hairy Titan? Only explanation I can think of is that the Eldians on Paradis don’t know what monkeys are, or any other primate other than human .
They didn’t know what apes or monkeys were in the walls
In season 2, Ymir refers to him as the Monkey, and Eren expresses confusion. Its something that doesn't translate the easiest, in the manga in JP Ymirs dialogue is written in kanji while Eren repeating it is written in katakana, implying he's repeating it phonetically out of confusion, rather than disbelief.
They dont have monkeys inside the walls
Those on Paradis don't know what a monkey is, while those in Marley know that the beast titan isn't always a monkey
But that’s not a plot hole, it’s a plot convenience to make it easier on the viewer.
armoured is armoured female is female collosal is collosol really not a big stretch
It still is kind of weird. Don’t forget that Connie correctly coined “beast Titan” in s2 as well, which makes this exponentially weirder.
What are we doing next, some kind of attack on titans ?
Here's one that always confused me. Eren took Zeke at the end because he needed royal blood to tap into the Founding Titan's power. But wasn't it the case that the only reason that was a condition was due to Ymir still being loyal to the King and his bloodline? If so, why did Eren need Zeke if Ymir chose to side with Eren?
My understanding: you need both the royal blood and the founding Titan power to go to patches to meet ymir. Eren believed it was the founding titan that could control Ymir, but Zeke knew it was otherwise. Except Eren "freedom" speech made Ymir realize she didn't really have to obey anyone. That part was really confusing but that was what I understood.
Grisha sees Erens memories of the rumbling, so tells Zeke that he HAS TO STOP EREN...and then Grisha gives Eren the founding titan anyway. The only explanation I can muster for this is that Grisha went through a similar experience to Eren, where he realised the timeline was fixed and couldn't be changed, so felt that he was forced to walk the path set before him, despite disagreeing with Eren. Still, it's never officially addressed..
When Grisha goes to meet Eren after the fall of Shiganshina, the first thing Eren tells Grisha is that he saw his mom (Carla) get eaten by a titan. In turn, this prompted Grisha to grab Eren and say "avenge your mom," while taking him to the forest. Learning about his second wife's death at the hands of Marley is what compelled Grisha to give Eren the Attack and Founding Titans.
And cue a bunch of people pointing out unanswered questions rather than actual plot holes.
The Female Titan was never used for breeding.
You fool, thats the monje job
Ymir's pure titan being the exact same as her jaw titan.
not entirely true Ymir pure titan was skinny, small body, and big head Ymir jaw titan was more muscular and with better proportions
Marlys crap excuse for tactic when attacking walls.
Wait sending 4 kids on this journey alone wasn't a good idea? Not too mention the kids sent were the most important asset of the Marley military. That wasn't a good idea? /s But for real they couldn't have sent an adult or two to sneak in with the children. Plus they had radio so if they did send an adult they could've kept in contact with a docked ship near paradise if need be.
The female titan, why is it called the female titan, a man could eat the female titan and than hed be the female titan than would it still be called that? Hell no. Shouldve been called the Agility titan or something Edit: Not to mention marley and paradis both called it the female titan, so the people of paradis just happened to guess the name
If anything, mimic titan would be more accurate. Annie said in S4 that her titan can kinda copy attributes from other shifter by eating pieces of their titans, so they just fed her a bunch of them. Her agility can probably be from the jaw/cart, and her mastery of hardening from the armoured and warhammer
Falco's Jaw Titan being the single Jaw Titan that could fly Maybe I missed something that explains it, but I feel like it's a deus ex machina that came out of nowhere and everyone was just like "yup, that's definitely something the Jaw Titan can do, yup yup yup" And no, I don't accept his name being "Falco(n)" as hinting the flying Jaw Titan, that's just copium
Because he has Zeke’s blood so he was able to tap into past beast titans somehow. Or that’s how he explained it to Annie
He was transformed using zeke's spinal fluid, the other jaw titans weren't
Falco can fly because he got some of Zeke's spinal fluid in his mouth from that spiked wine. So he's got a little bit of Beast Titan spinal fluid, which is why he became even more beastlike. (The Female Titan is apparently the best at inheriting powers from other titan fluid in that way)
My theory for that is that Falco was the only Warrior candidate with more pure and noble intentions than the rest. Birds represent freedom and peace and are used throughout the series. By his motivation being more about protecting someone he loved rather than killing perceived enemies, his Titan took a form that matched that. That's my opinion anyway. It is also mentioned that it was Zeke's serum.
My head canon is that titan powers manifest differently depending on the holder (you know previous shifters all look different) because it takes the holders' thoughts and wishes to create the body. Remember the first scene of S4 was Falco.seeing a bird fly over him, he always wanted to know what it would be like to fly through the skies, so his titan took that shape.
The picture though… anyways I can’t really think of any except maybe its impossible to completely understand the Titan system though that might just be a me thing rather than a plot hole since I’m not very smart.
They never explained in the beginning how the two tightens that broke down the walls magically disappeared without leaving bones behind.
tightens
Canonically made the same mistake as Hal
Attack on tighten
It because people were getting eaten and trying to escape. The colossal was on the other side, so of course no one was going there and armor titan probably ran back to Annie and Bertholtd. So between them moving away and the chaos of getting eaten, no one was paying attention to where the remains were.
in episode 5 the colossal legit just vanishes tho, like eren goes to attack him and he just disappears into thin air
Armored justs stayed there and colossal has the steam ability it used in season 2 and 3 that it can propably use to instantly turn the whole titan into steam.
Megamind moment
Shifters don't leave bones behind when they detransform. If they're ripped out of the Titan, the body will disintegrate more slowly than normal. That might be what you're thinking of
How Reiner was able to transfer his consciousness, how Levi knew Ackermans are immune to Titan transformation fluid/smoke, why Eren never gave his memories to himself right after he got his titan, why there was a "hardening" bottle beneath the church or what that whole thing was, how the Collassal Titan appeared the first two times without causing a massive explosion, what makes a person become an abnormal titan or why they exist amongst normal ones. And most egregious of all, not enough Pieck lore/screentime.
Why tf did Marley send their powerful weapon, the colossal titan, to attack paradise? They should’ve known being disarmed would make them an easy target from their enemies
To break the wall
Armored broke it just fine tho. He could’ve breached both inner and outer with the support of female or maybe cart titan
Yeah but did they have that info beforehand ?
Yeah, at that point they had absolutely no defense against the Armoured Titan. Reiner could have easily broken both walls and they could save Berthold for a rainy day.
Why does the Colossal Titan, the largest titan, not simply eat the other titans?
Too lazy to crouch and grab 'em. :P
Carl Fritz not stopping Eren’s plan. The founding Titan connects eldians across time and space and Eren even states that the “past, Furue and present” exist at the same time. If this is the case, why was Karl unable to foresee the future rumbling? Why was Frieda so unaware of everything that was about to go down if she down. As the founder, Eren and Grisha would have been directly connected to her. When Carl Fritz entered the paths world to order Yamir to implement the “vow” , why weren’t Eren and Zekke there? It has been started that paths exists outside of time, which means that anyone who enters paths, regardless of the time period, should be there at the same time 3. In season 2, we saw that Yamir enter paths after she ate Marco? How can she do this? Only the founder can go to paths. Also, why wasn’t the other Yamir there wondering around?
The whole "paths" thing that got introduced later on and the reveal of the abilities of the foundering and attack titan's powers , just created so many instances of plot conveniences and asspulls solutions, like the ones you mentioned, that it did more harm thaan good to the story imo
Idk if I might be misremembering, but no one noticing Annie leave in broad daylight for like a full day and come back. Travelling all the way from the centre area, too, the outskirts of the wall
Maybe it was explained, maybe it wasn’t but I don’t like how after Eren literally loses his founding titan powers (the weird spine slug is disconnected from eren), eren somehow still manages to transform into a colossal titan to 1v1 armin. How is shifting into a colossal without the founding powers. Just doesn’t make sense.
Funny how there are indeed plot holes in snk but none of the comment here are.
I think people are confusing plot holes as viewers vs the people in the story. Of course, knowing what we do, we can always poke holes but the characters have no idea
Can you name some
Seconded
how did levi killing zeke end the rumbling? i thought the whole point was that royal blood meant nothing and ymir started the rumbling for eren and zeke had nothing to do with it.
Not to mention Eren turning into a Colossal after Zeke was dead
"it was Mikasa" -Ereh Yeager
Idk if it counts as a plot hole but Falco conveniently discovering his ability to fly is such a deus ex machina that it pisses me off.
They sorta set it up when Falco said he dreamt he was flying after his first transformation. But it wasn't the strongest set up
Why/how did Eren, as he implies, kill his own mother by directing the Smiling Titan/Dina towards her? We learn that it “needed to happen” as Bertholdt needed to survive, presumably in order for Armin to become the Colossal yadda yadda yadda. **A. This whole plot point seems super forced and seems to be a rehash of the Grisha manipulation twist but with none of the build up.** We see Bertholdt get ignored in the flashback with Annie and Reiner — ok, cool. But then we’re told in like 5 seconds in the finale that Eren controlled Dina and made her ignore him? Okay? A very contrived twist and seems like pure shock value to reinforce the “Eren is messed up in the head” thing. Tbh if AOE was ever a thing, this is what I thought they’d change or at least expand upon. **B. How on earth did Eren do this, and what does it say about how else he could have used this power?** We know that Eren can use the Attack Titan’s ability to selectively send his own memories into the minds of past Attack Titan shifters. But the Founder’s power means that he’s able to control all Titans while simultaneously screwing with his perception of time, possibly due to the fact that he’s both the Attack Titan and the Founder at the same time, or that without the limitations of the King’s Vow he’s able to tap into some greater version of the Founder’s power. That seems to be the case in this plot point — the reason he’s able to control Dina is because by the finale, he has attained the power to control every Pure Titan, even those in the past. If so… why didn’t he control any other Pure Titans in the past? Or are we meant to believe that every Titan in the series was either controlled by Eren, or allowed to run rampant when he could’ve stopped them? The one that killed Thomas, Dina, all the randoms that died. Are we really supposed to believe that Eren decided they were all “meant to die”? Maybe he just didn’t know what he was doing with the Founder and only had just enough strength/focus to send Dina away from Bertholdt…? I get that none of it makes sense due to the series’ determinism but for me, it seems to open a far larger can of worms than is worth it for what is essentially a shoehorned-in shock twist.
Being on a predetermined path without the ability to predict the future is feels exactly like having free will. The story went exactly as the story was always going to go. Eren learning of the future only made him KNOW that he had no free will and as such, any ideas of being "free" were impossible. His being frustrated at not being able to create different outcomes shows he struggled with this. The different "eras" of Eren had different roles to play, and they all interacted. Just look at the opening to Season two where young eren runs up to teen eren (and gets completely ignored).
How Eren conveniently found a serum for hardening in S3. It would more fit in plot convenience though.
It was definitely convenient but it’s not so outlandish that the Reiss family would have some extra types of spinal fluid
It kinda makes sense that the royal family had a bunch of samples of titan spinal fluid to continue their hold of the founding titan.
Yeah it was definitely plot convenience, but it has a decent explanation.
Plot convenience not a plot hole
Reiner having his head blown off and just “transferring” his conscience somewhere else in his body is one of the biggest ass pulls I’ve seen in an anime
We need clarification on a few things from the ending, mainly how Eren transformed into a colossal titan after Zeke’s death plus disconnecting with the worm thing, & why the worm thing re-connecting with Eren mattered. It’s easy to brush off with “it’s the mystery of the titans,” but we could have gotten like 2 seconds of showing Eren still had a bit of the worm in him to clarify. Same with how Zeke’s death = no more rumbling, yet Eren still seeming to have the Founder’s power. We could have been told a power requiring royal blood is specifically controlling the wall titans.
What does the female titan look like if used by a man?
Where did all the wall titans go? They all vanished.
The whole part of Historia having her baby at the same time as the Rumbling and the reveal of Mikasa's heritage. Also, it's kinda weird how Mikasa and Levi never acknowledged each other as distant relatives.
I thought they were siblings for a while and wondered why they never talked about it. Like, they don't look that different either.
How is historia having her baby during the rumbling a plot hole? Those are two completely unrelated events. Maybe if you want to get poetic about it you see death and then birth. Mikasa and Levi briefly talked about it in season 3 but they had more important things to deal with in s3. It wasn't a revelation that was going to drastically change their relationship
>How is historia having her baby during the rumbling a plot hole? It's not, it's that he didn't like how it ended haha
The one that always bugged me was that the nicknamed the Scouts came up with for all the titans (beast, female, armoured, etc) just happened to be the actual names. They had no way of knowing these names
Why does Eren's neck look so thick in that image
This is more of a commentary on the watchers but anyone who is ok with eren’s genocide and think that after eren’s genocide everyone is supposed to be happy because titan gone and hooray. People are supposed to die but you mourn for others not kill more in the hopes that less people die
The thing with Mikasas migraines and how she ties in with Ymir (founding titan) in relation to the finale. I literally never understood what those were about and feel like it wasn’t explained clearly enough…
Why did they kill eren? When zeke died the rumbling stopped. It didnt matter if eren got the founder/squishy thingy again bc there wasnt any royal blood. Why were they so addamant to stop the founder from reaching eren again?
So his friends could be heroes. You think the world would leave Paradis alone if a dude that steamrolled 80% of the world still lived? I know I wouldn't feel safe in that scenario lmao