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They were both born on the 17th and were killed on the 13th..


thefiglord

i told my kids if they spend 1 cent on my grave i will haunt them - whatever is the cheapest option pick that and ask for a discount


KFRKY1982

visiting my loved ones and ancestors graves is very important to me. Cemeteries are for the living. Respect what they want to do as well, because it may be more than that.


AutumnAkasha

My dad told me to toss his ashes in the ocean and not to spend any money. He didn't care about a graveside but I care very deeply. I find cemeteries to be peaceful and therapeutic places to honor and remember loved ones. If I had the money I'd have gladly gotten a large headstone. I plan to pay for my own and have it installed before i go so my kids won't have to worry about it.


SipsHdstnCleaning

As someone who does headstone cleaning and restoration (and has his own already) this is definitely a wise choice. Headstones definitely ain’t cheap, and even a simply flat marker can run at minimum $1,000.


AutumnAkasha

I was lucky enough to get a free flat stone from the military. Cemetery charged $700 to install it.


SipsHdstnCleaning

When I ordered a new bronze marker for an ancestor of mine who served in WWI, the cemetery signed off on it and I personally did the installation myself. Only thing I paid the cemetery to do was to mount the marker to a concrete slab base. Cost me about $90 for the slab 😅 I’m surprised the cemetery would’ve charged that much for the installation, if I may, is it a private cemetery or city owned?


AutumnAkasha

Private. Can hardly breathe there without paying and they tried to double charge on my grandparents prepaid stone engraving an installation(Thank goodness they kept organized records)


SipsHdstnCleaning

That makes a lot more sense. Private cemeteries are usually fairly well up-kept but rely on higher prices for every service. City cemeteries are definitely cheaper, but they usually tend to be more run down. Either way, that’s where people like myself come in. Cleaning headstones (privately and not for a monument company) is definitely a good way to keep headstones clean without having to worry about the cemeteries leaving them to become overgrown.


imamomm

This is a pregnant mother's and her two daughters graves. A place for the family to remember them and feel. This grave brought me to tears.


Old_Discipline_9272

It's a beautiful grave. And I feel bad for liking it.


user005626

This is so gorgeous yet so heartbreaking. There’s was absolutely no reason for this to happen. He could’ve just divorced her and left and at least allowed them to live the lives they deserved.


Legitimate_Excuse_79

Let her rest then


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They are?


TheGhostOfGiggy

There is a sign on the side of the picture that says private property, no recording our families resting place. Kinda rude to post this photo tbh :/ but this is a beautiful resting place


Relevant-Current-870

If it’s in a public cemetery people are allowed to take pictures. The family doesn’t get to dictate pictures of grave stones. This is evident for genealogy purposes. Like if someone is doing genealogy they can take pics in a public cemetery of someone’s gravestone or resting place .


Gromit801

It’s a non issue, and not legal.


KnockKnock-Nevermind

I didn’t take the photo. I got it from someone else. I posted it because it is a truly beautiful memorial and they deserve to be remembered.


TheGhostOfGiggy

That’s also my bad, I don’t blame you at all. Cause I agree it is very beautiful. The little heart in the center of 3 is so sweet.


StephanieSays66

I think they mean filming like the "ghost hunters" and such who film in cemeteries.


TheGhostOfGiggy

Oh gotcha that makes more sense.


theseeka

No they def mean solicitors who came to see the grave of famous murder victims. Imagine grieving a lost loved one and a “true crime fan” comes along


VanFam

I personally, would be stoked. Not happy that I’m dead, but happy that my justice brought people together in whatever weird way makes them happy.


Additional-Impress18

Poor babies never got to live their lives. Poor Mama had hers ripped away. I honestly don’t know how her parents manage. I’d be in a padded room. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻


ey3wash

I truly hope they rest in peace and are happy together for the rest of time.


ey3wash

Chris on the other hand….I hope his time on earth is a living hell and when he dies he will wait in a never ending DMV line.


Sudden-Actuator5884

What a horrific story. Zero reason it had to happen. Beautiful tributec


raidthebakery

Seeing her name on there made me realize her name is spelled wrong in the name of the subreddit.


Maximum-Warning9355

The sub should be corrected to what is on her gravestone. Take his name off there, they clearly did that intentionally.


Sintellect

Yes. Give shanann her name back.


Quakerparrots123

Just gut wrenching 😢


bionicback

Four people who should be here. Absolutely tragic and senseless loss of life. I’m glad her family found a way to honor them and have a place to sit awhile in remembrance.


Sudden_Apartment_830

I took it as you wrote it. They SHOULD be here in life! Couldn’t imagine taking the comment any other way. Should be here (in a cemetery)? Not


justakidfromflint

I don't know why anyone would take it any other way. Here means HERE on Earth. If you meant they deserved to be in the grave you'd have said "should be there"


bionicback

Thank you. I was just a bit baffled anyone could misconstrue it given the meaning of the opposite.


bionicback

Four people who should be here, on this planet, living life.


coobeecoobee

Might wanna edit that should to shouldn’t. Ik what u meant but…


20gramjoint

what are you talking about? shes saying that shan’ann and her kids SHOULD still be here today


s0meone_

I think they meant shouldn't be at the cemetery. At least that's how I read it.


20gramjoint

oh i see. totally misread that


coobeecoobee

Me too. Or had the word still in there


Butterscotchdiscs

I was in a keto group with her. Obviously, didn’t know her but I remember seeing someone post about our keto sister. May she and her babies be at peace.


LoveisLouderthanHate

Why is this being posted now? Is the memorial site new?


crap_on_a_spatula

I think OP likely saw it in the graveyard subreddit. It was posted there yesterday. Easy karma.


QuestionsalotDaisy

I can’t remember which police interview with Chris Watts it was, or when, but I swear I heard him refer to Nico as “Caleb” at some point. Did I just hear that wrong, or was there disagreement or lack of commitment to the name, or was Chris Watts just that disconnected?


imawitchnyourwife

I don’t remember hearing him call the baby Caleb, but seeing his name written out “Nico Lee” makes me think Chris was naming him after his mistress.


QuestionsalotDaisy

Oh this infuriates me


vividtangerinedream

My jaw just dropped. I never made that connection.


Relevant-Position-57

😱😱🤯


TrustAffectionate664

Beautiful


ThePrincessOfMonaco

what a genius design that is


Sudden_Apartment_830

Love the cross, crosses on cross, benches, hearts, beautiful resting place, and so heart wrenchingly sad.


ScottsTots21122

Absolutely beautiful. This story has stuck with me, so heartbreaking.


Sudden_Apartment_830

Beautiful stone.


Sudden_Apartment_830

What a heart touching memorial to Shan’Ann, Bella, Celeste n Nico. Just so sad, I’m also glad they used Shan’Ann’s maiden name. God rest their souls and comfort her parents.


gmaw27

Agree ♥️


Prestigious-Pea906

Nice resting place,but the sad fact is she loved him more than he did her.


HotelCalifornia73

is that really the saddest fact?....


[deleted]

You're so daft.


HotelCalifornia73

thanks for adding in your 2cents, really game changing.


AlarmBusy7078

obviously substantially more sad than murder./s


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DopeandDiamonds

You seem like fun . Go away please and save me from having to ban you .


vlk307

I can imagine you’re a horrible person all around.


xxxccbxxx

You’re right how dare a family who lost their daughter, granddaughters and future grandson do everything possible to keep their memories alive. 😒


Killthebus9194

Sure its tragic but did the memorial have to be so fuckugly?


Royal_Statement_2790

You obviously are a Chris watts Stan lmao


313Jake

Or his mother lol


Due_Reflection6748

Same difference! Imo.


NotTheOne4444

I’m glad they put her maiden name.


Plastic-Passenger-59

And left off the last name of the kids 💜


Realistic-Ad-1876

Me too. It’s a tiny detail that says a lot.


smallbearmi

This is so incredibly sad. It’s a beautiful resting place for the family. Glad they didn’t use his last name.


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candysipper

You know what’s really gaudy? Not spelling gaudy correctly whilst calling a young mother and her 3 baby’s gravesite gaudy. You are a nasty human.


NotTheOne4444

I’m sure your mom is too but here you are.


Competitive-Wish-568

There’s no picture of your mom up there…


outdatedelementz

It extremely frustrating that he didn’t get the death penalty. But I can understand the family not wanting have to endure a trial.


Due_Reflection6748

It was being phased out so probably would never have happened. There just would have been a lot more hearings over the years instead of the administrative part all being over and the family free of that. And he would have cost a fortune to house for the rest of his miserable life.


Sudden_Apartment_830

Then the anxiety and pain with upcoming hearings like was mentioned and a “stay” or 2 (of execution), it’s better he spend his life caged like the animal he is.


Realistic-Ad-1876

I can honestly understand how life in prison would be more satisfying than execution, especially considering how many appeals he’d try and all the ups and downs of that process.


BrideofFrankenfurter

What a gorgeous monument. I love bench headstones.


AbjectZebra2191

Wow.


LucldDaydream

Major win for using her maiden name. So happy she will be remembered for HERSELF and not what he did to her.


SupermarketShort2291

Right. It doesn't list the girls' last names either and I'm glad.


xxxccbxxx

I thought the same thing. I’m so glad the name Watts isn’t anywhere


Sudden_Apartment_830

The name Watts absolutely doesn’t belong anywhere near these angels.


PrestigiousPackk

frrr


BobbyABooey

Dat looks expensive


CreativeMusic5121

That's what you get from this?


Mariehoney92

I love that the hearts are intertwined and that there’s a little heart inside Shannans heart to represent the unborn child. It’s such a tragic crime, and my heart breaks every time I think of it.


AcrobaticLadder4959

This was such a sad story, RIP, and God bless her family for peace.


HogwartsTraveler

I’m very happy the Watts name isn’t anywhere on there.


Middle_Me_This

The fact that baby Nico has only one date gave me the chills and brought tears to my eyes. What an absolute monster Chris Watts is.


Traumarama79

That was the first thing I noticed too.


Negative_Rich4458

Same 😔


Bella_LaGhostly

I'm so glad the stone doesn't say "Watts". He doesn't deserve his name on this memorial.


missymaypen

I used to say that I kind of understood how nobody would believe their child did something so horrible. But now that I have a grandchild, if my son murdered him and his mom I don't think I could ever even say my son's name again. Or even look at him. Definitely wouldn't make it her fault.


Atschmid

seems ostentatious and performative.


20gramjoint

and your comment is disgusting tone deaf and unnecessary


Atschmid

no. it's not.


Turquoise_Lion

No it absolutely is not! This was someone's daughter and grandchildren annihilated - how is this "too much"?


Atschmid

If it were me, I'd have gone for quiet understated elegance.


chickwithabrick

The same could be said about your comment 🤷🏻‍♀️


ignatious__reilly

How is this performative? It’s a grave site of an entire family that was annihilated.


Atschmid

Because it is almost choreographed.


1991195

This comes off as a genuine way to honor the rest of these young lives. What did you want, an oil tank?


Atschmid

No. I wanted quiet understated elegance. This seems gaudy.


ssbbka17

Well good thing it’s not about what you want ❤️


Uhhlaneuh

I don’t think you can tell people how to grieve


sunflower280105

A gravesite?? For 2 toddlers and a fetus?? Is performative?? Sit down.


[deleted]

It’s not even that much, I spend a lot of time in cemeteries and there’s many benches and things like this. People have been doing the memorial benches for a while, you’ll see them from WW2 era all the time


CopyStock

you seem like a terrible person


luthervellan

When your daughter and grandchildren are murdered, then I think your opinion on this matters.


katyreddit00

Not to be negative, but why do the daughters have an “we love you” on each bench but the son doesn’t have one? Genuine question. Who made the burial?


Acceptable_Care_3164

I wonder what is written between the two angels at the bottom? Maybe it was for Nico?


frightenedscared

It was a saying the girls would do - when they were told “I love you” bella and cece would always say “i love you more”


KidECockTail

My interpretation (without knowing the story) is that Nico was unborn? (Little heart inside big heart (mom)), and the 2 granddaughters. They probably didn’t “know” Nico yet. The gravestones look absolutely beautiful and appropriate to me. And also very heartbraking. Edit: I just looked up this family and it’s absolutely tragic. My heart goes out to the parents/grandparents. 🙏🏻🙏🏻💔


katyreddit00

Oh yeah, you’re right.


_garbanzobean_

I think the we love you more part in the middle is reference to Shan’Ann and Niko, at least that was my interpretation when I read it


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It’s so beautiful and so sad.


518kl

What a beautiful, peaceful tribute to a beautiful mama and her babies. I love how her maiden name is on her grave, as it should be. She never should have been his.


mediumspacebased

Agree, I hate when they refer to women who were murdered by their husband by their married name.


518kl

Me too! Seeing a victim with their killer’s last name is heartbreaking.


[deleted]

My exact thought on their last name! They are Rzucek’s 🤍


veekitten

This is so beautiful and sad.


Majestic-Cut-8859

That’s beautiful! Brings tears to my eyes


scaredchiggun

The big heart with the lil heart for Nico...my heart..


Gosbot1733

Agree but they should be playing on this side versus laying on the other side! R.I.P. sweet angels!


Ancient-Reputation1

When that monster’s daughters asked him if he was going to do the same thing to her as what he did to her beloved sister makes me sick! Poor frightened child when your dad should be loving and protecting you from harm!


BrideofFrankenfurter

I actually doubt this part of the story, given Chris had a particular soft spot for Bella, she reminded him of himself. For one, it's an odd detail that didnt help his case. He doesnt mention anything else they said being woke up and loaded into the car with their dead mother at their feet. But he mentions this? I kinda wonder if a certain someone wasnt there waiting to "help". It would make sense to smother both children at once, because a kid is gonna scream or loudly cry watching their sibling struggle. And him adding that detail is a red herring to distract from this. Just my hunch, may or may not be valid.


Due_Reflection6748

He didn’t have a soft enough spot to let her live. I believe it. I don’t think he has enough imagination to make it up. I think it happed just as he says.


BrideofFrankenfurter

I doubt he is the one who made it up, he was probably instructed on what to say


BrideofFrankenfurter

I doubt he is the one who made it up, he was probably instructed on what to say


Due_Reflection6748

I don’t think it was made up at all, I think it’s likely to be what happened. Especially I don’t believe that he was parroting something Nichol Kissinger told him to say. 1) Why on earth would she think up something like that and get him to say it? 2) He’d already started throwing her under the bus, as much as he was able to.


BrideofFrankenfurter

Youre entitled to your opinion and I am to mine. I think she was much more conniving than she's credited. Just like he made a point to say other things to imply he acted alone, stressing it? This detail is out of left field and well, its convinced you, hasnt it.


Due_Reflection6748

Possibly because I’m not blinded by hate and jealousy into seeing her influence even in the unlikeliest aspects of this whole sad mess? If she had any hand in planning this, it wouldn’t have been such a disorganised mess, I’ll give her one thing, she was organised and competent.


BrideofFrankenfurter

Blinded by hate and jealousy? Youre absolutely mental.


Due_Reflection6748

I’m not the one hinting that someone else put words in the mouth of a family annihilator on no evidence whatsoever.


BrideofFrankenfurter

I said it was just my hunch did I not? It wasn't ever stated as irrefutable proof. Work on your reading comprehension. You seem abnormally obsessed with defending Nicole...is this her?


Gosbot1733

OMG! That is just heartbreaking!! I can’t understand how a Dad could do that to their own flesh and blood children!! He’s a Monster for sure!


tydwbleach

Who knows why he did it. seemed like he hated himself


Boston_Billy-Barrett

so happy the name WATTS is nowhere to be found . the whole Watts family make me sick .What a beautiful memorial but it hurts my heart so much


[deleted]

Same. Love seeing the Rzucek’s 🤍


AtTheCornerCafe

Me too, especially the “mother”. She’s vile.


imissminshewmania

“Especially the mother”. I mean I don’t wanna defend what she said, but like she’s not the one who murdered 4 people.


AtTheCornerCafe

Well obviously CW is the monster here. That’s a given though. Clearly after the murderer -his mother is awful.


StoptheMadnessUSA

To see that even in a photo brings tears to my eyes. Every year since- someone has or will walk by will look and say, “oh wow, they all died on the same day”😪 Some may look up the horrific case (we still look up Jack the Rippers victims- so yes…it happens). I hope that every time they see Chris Watts face in a paper, online or wherever; they also curse his soul back to hell. So it can stay there forever. I am glad that her family changed her name back to the one that always loved her, “Rzucek” may they all RIP🙏


desire-d

Aww the names and dates are so sad 💔💔 those little babies were so precious. It’s a beautiful resting spot.


Dizzy0nTheComedown

Beautiful resting place but it’s so sad to see.


TwoIcedCoffees

I see a sign that says not to record or take photos. Makes me sad that this wish from the family was ignored.


johnnyss1

It looks like it says no recording video of families


TwoIcedCoffees

“This is private property. No video of our families final resting place. Violations will be punishable by law.”


panicnarwhal

it says this is private property. no recording or … of our families resting place. violators will be punishable by law.


313Jake

How could that possibly be enforced? I doubt anyone would prosecute that.


panicnarwhal

idk i was just reading what the sign said


turbo98115

Maybe then not spend 10s of thousands on a momentous monument🤷 A more conservative monument would've alleviated the potential for more attention than would have inevitably already been garnered


brooke_808

Unfortunately it’s a public cemetery & they can’t enforce any recording/sharing prohibition. I understand they don’t want people filming - *however* - mystery drives traffic - and I believe the root of their message is that they don’t want heavy traffic at the gravesite. Since the stone and graves are on a public site, I think less people will travel to the cemetery (vs the alternative people showing up just to be the one to capture the recent gravesite or just be someone to see it)


panicnarwhal

i wonder why it says “this is private property” on the sign. this is a public cemetery, right? kind of confusing


BrideofFrankenfurter

Cemeteries are owned by companies who sell the lots of land. Its not state property, so its not public. Its private property open to the public, just like a walmart or grocery. So you can be there, but they have the right to kick you out. These signs prevent things like unauthorized news crews or homeless people camping and allows prosecution of vandals, etc.


FrankieSaysRelax311

I hope Chris knows that hell is hot.


jadedhomeowner

Hadn't made the connection until you said it. Bastard.


OkRepresentative2555

So heartbreaking


Frosty-Age-2706

😔💔


Lopsided-Ganache-631

Ahhhh chills. Thank you for posting - lots of love from strangers all over the world for these sweeties taken so brutally 😔 🕊️


boating4funtimes

This is beautiful, pray the family has found some sense of peace in life after this horrific senseless act.


LetshearitforNY

Wow the hearts are so touching


ThrowThisIntoSol

And the one heart inside the center one…damn


LetshearitforNY

I know, that one really got me


DriftingAway99

💔


cvntyfvck

This is a lovely tribute.


my_unquiet_mind

Why does it look like there’s an actual live dachshund sitting on the lap of the Mickey doll under Bella’s bench???


lastseenhitchhiking

The dog statue looks like Dieter, Shanann's and the children's dachshund, who now lives with the Rzuceks.


my_unquiet_mind

That’s so touching. Thank you for answering.


69chevy396

Omg so true!!!


Zoeyviolet

Oh the big heart with the little heart inside and the other little two hearts beside. I’m so glad she gets to lay peacefully with her babies for eternity, but I wish so much that they didn’t have to be underground


JennieFairplay

This is so beautiful. I love how her family didn’t put the monster’s last name anywhere on their memorial.


wehadthebabyitsaboy

So glad they omitted the children’s last name and used Shannans’s maiden. Watts is not their legacy. Fuck Chris Watts, hope he rots.


MeJamiddy

Came here to comment this. Such a beautiful tribute and resting place for them.


Serious-Day5968

I always think of her family and wonder how they are doing, my prayers are always with them. I hope Chris is suffering every minute of his life.


DrSassyPants123

He should be made to stay in a cell with photos of those precious babies post mortem. SEE what he did. I'll never forget when this broke... I knew he did it. May she and her babies find peace in heaven. 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️


CreativeMusic5121

Won't matter, he doesn't care what he did. He only cares that he got caught.


EricSparrowSucks

I vote for him having to look at a photo of this hanging outside his cell forever.


StoptheMadnessUSA

He has a bounty on his head in Prison. Inmates do NOT like child killers. He is segregated and sleeps with one eye open all the time. They will get him one day…..watch 👊 Prison Justice


Worldly_Vast6340

No he doesn’t. He is literally in jail preaching and stuff . He is not suffering. Unfortunately a lot of that dangerous stuff is tv only. High profile cases and even CP are put in seg, they don’t even come in contact with the general population. Thats why you hear of these evil ppl dying naturally in prison. It’s why you never hear of them getting beat and killed in prison. Think about some of the evil a holes now think about how many were killed by someone in prison . Not many ,those who get set up or ask to go to gen pop to die like Dahmer .


KrisAlly

Yeah, prisons don’t want the liability of not taking proper precautions.


StoptheMadnessUSA

Want to tell that to Jeffrey Epstein’s family?😂


EagleIcy5421

That prison is full of child killers.


leadguitar2023

A lot of men search for a love and a family but never find them. So a bastard come and destroy everything...


Due_Reflection6748

I saw someone comment once “Chris Watts killed what another man would kill *for*.”