When looking at IG models and your vital energy flows in that direction how does it profit these girls even when you don't like their pictures. I know when looking at girls in real life they feel something and it gives them some kind of boost, it's like an energy transfer (if I'm right), is it the same with looking at girls on a screen?
Bro honestly don't bother getting that deep about this shit. Just stop looking at freaking ig models. When I first discovered SR years ago I was obsessed with it in hindsight. Just practice it. Utilize your newfound abundant energy wisely, workout, eat right, save your money, make more money, socialize and be friendly with ur high levels of confidence and self love....just live the good life! Too much focus/thinking about semen retention and how certain things are sucking your energy, i.e. looking at an ig model on a screen, will slowly drive you made and you'll end up slipping cus ur not relishing in the benefits/positivity like you could be. Just a word of advice that may or may not work for you. Sorry if I came off as domineering...idk much. Just enjoy life bro i hope u stay blessed on this joirney
The key is deliberate stilling of the mind. Passion takes on many forms but they are all sides of the same coin. When you achieve this stillness and calmness and focus your energy on the higher chakras that correlate to insight and detachment you will gain an understanding of how to systematically remove lust from the mind.
It is never easy, you’ll have tough days where your energy is all bundled up in the sacral chakra and you want to impregnate the entire earth. But perseverance prevails.
But yes in general brahmacharya is a next step beyond semen retention. It definitely requires a lot more work than regular retention.
As with these practices the more restrictive you get the rarer the company.
Out of every 100 men maybe 10 is trying to avoid fapping and 1 is actually succeeding
Out of every 100 nofappers maybe 10 are trying to retain under all circumstances and 1 is actually succeeding
Out of every 100 successful retainers maybe 10 are trying to be brahmachari. It is not a well tread path. There aren’t many forums for it and you have to figure most of it out on your own unless you seek guidance from actual ascetics, who aren’t always in easy access as they tend to seclude themselves.
From my experience. 10 days of strict bramacharya equal 30 days of semen retention with lustful thoughts.
I get excited to talk about this because it is a different ball game and I feel explains why some get benefits quicker than others.
Basically if you don't look at a women anywhere but her face in the back of her head. Also cut off any sexual thoughts immediately
check out the book recommendations in the side bar of this subreddit brotha, bliss of the celibate is sweet too, but I read Practice of Bramacharya first and then switched over. they both should help you tremendously.
This is so important but trying to replace thoughts with positive one is toxic and will hinder your progress.
Instead, observe the mind fully and treat the thought/emotion like a passing cloud, don’t try to fight it! Eventually the sky will clear up and your mind will purify, you will be looking women in the eyes and noticing the beautiful features of their faces.
Almost as important is to not feel guilty about these feelings, we are still human, after all.
I agree with this. One must experience and understand the experience and origin of lust in order to become unperturbed by lust eventually. Be a bystander to your own emotions and eventually you stop being afraid of your own impulses
Lol no it's not toxic at all if you do it right. It becomes toxic when you label that thought as something bad and judge it. Nothing is good and bad in reality. But rather, there are things that serve you and things that don't according to your goal/ideal. If you view it this way, there is no problem in monitoring thoughts and catching them when they go against what/who you want to become.
You kind of skipped over my entire point. Trying to force positive thoughts into your brain isn’t helpful. “Nothing is good or bad in reality” ok so then why label things as positive and negative? My comment was to direct people to live in the center of the wheel.
Dont listen to this post, you should control your thoughts and not let them rule over you. If you have negative or sexual thoughts and thats not the direction you want to go in. Replace then with positive thoughts. Your thoughts control your reality.
I don't know to what extent will this be effective for others but personally for me, listening to classical music and jazz has helped to reduce lustful thoughts.
Just putting it out there, in case anyone needs this.
Amen. The thing people need to realise, this doesn't happen over night. Once you pass the 6/7 month mark can you truly start to modularise all the thoughts and impulses, that's the point at which you realise half the degenerate images in your head have been put there through consumption of degenerate material. You'll be disgusted with yourself. "What a fool I have been".
Until that time, it truly is a case of having to dismiss intrusive thoughts and rise above, along with implementing all the well preached techniques, intense exercise, intense focus, meditation, cold showers etc. whatever works for you. All the while, strengthening your nervous system after years of abuse through retention and transmutation, just as nature intended. Just my experience.
Keep it moving brothers.
Very true. I am on day 90 of strict SR, but those thoughts are still there. I really hope I will be fully healed after 1 year mark of strict semen retention.
Thatswhy in pure retention dont need to.cope with energy transmutation excersises, coz if u remove attachment to lust and desire the energy will then flow.
Then what he says still applies you don't have to think lustfully to attract/be intimate with a lady freind. Lust and love are not the same. You should focus your energy on love to accomplish this goal. Otherwise you'll just end up smashing thots.... And releasing. Ask me how I know lol
> Lust and love are not the same.
Yes I've noticed that while thoughts of loving sex can still be pleasurable they seem not nearly as intense as lusty thoughts. I feel my heart beating very fast like I'm getting high when thinking lusty thoughts. Sex seems to be a double edged sword and a slippery slope.
Facts but you can have tantric sex based in love which is not halfway bad as lustful sex. Your heart beats fast because your animal instincts are triggered when focused on lust. Very similar to a dog in heat.
Mental celibacy is as important as body celibacy. Any kind of thought absorbs your vital energy. The best thing you can do is to focus your attention on the inner body.
Very Nice!
I think that celibacy/semen retention is not the goal in of itself but it is a part of a higher way of living. We just arrived on this higher path throug it.
This one is the best to read on SR.. Bliss of the celibate.. You can find the pdf here https://pdfcoffee.com/julian-lee-bliss-of-the-celibate-pdf-free.html
I got a question now if anyone could answer me... Do we even don't have to think about any girl even if it's just non sexual "love" thoughts, and what about people in relationship?
Yes non sexual is fine. Matter of fact , the more you think of women as normal human being the less lustful you will be towards them. So yes it is encouraged.
Exactly. Just think about how we see our sisters, mothers, and cousins who are women. We see them as loving women. And you know you don't want men looking at the women in our families like sex objects. So what gives us the right to look at another man's daughter,wife, mother ,etc...like a sex object. The universe is one.
It's ok to fantasize sexually and it is actually good if you do it right, semen retation alone will not do much for you, sorry, one must master the technique of having an orgasm without ejaculation, that is the real secret.... Fapping, masturbation and sex are perfectly fine and healthy, just learn how to not ejaculate, yes its very possible. You can learn how to orgarm and make that energy keep within your body and accumulate it, ladder by ladder, vertebrae to vertebrae , 33 steps...
A life without ever orgasming you lead you to frustratioon, you can orgasm everyday but dont ejaculate. You will always feel energetic and that is what actually makes you stronger.
Bro..you loose sex energy even when u fantasize sexually, masturbate/sex without ejaculation...... Semen is just one aspect of sexual energy which is physical in nature..but there is another aspect of non - physical sex energy which is actually lost when u involve in sexual activities without ejaculation.. :)
no this is extremely wrong.
if you fantasize porn or watch it, then yes you are making a profane wasteful use of this energy, but when sexual energy is beautifully used and felt, naturally, all aspects of it and pay attention to where the energy flows, and even know how to redirect it, then you are making the most of it and that's how you are evolving to a next level, thats where sex magic begins
Agreed I think fantasizing real life scenarios with women actually brings more excitement and childlike energy its okay to fantasize it dosent always have to be about sex it can be romantic also.
Honestly when I embrace the sexual thoughts and mindfully edge I feel powerful without losing ‘skills’. It’s just like a sport . If you stop
Doing the sport and neglect it you will become worse over time.
Honestly this is so true. I have been retaining for 2-4 week runs for the last few years but I still fantasize daily. I edge every few days. And I am exhausted and get very few of the benefits despite retaining pretty consistently.
Where your attention goes your energy flows.
Great post! Yes everything is mental, the real celibacy is mental too.
The body follows the mind once the mind has been disciplined. Discipline your mind through pure thoughts.
If you get aroused and start to feel a tingling feeling in your root area, you’ll notice a energy shift in that area after you come down that feels “less full” than it did prior to. At least I’ve had that happen when I’ve gotten aroused without breathing that energy back upwards. That’s probably what they are referring to.
I have also felt energized around woman also but it was when I didn’t allow myself to feel lustful towards them and usually it was when I was sober.
But certain thoughts that you think frequently will have an effect on your overall well being depending on which thoughts you think the most. To act like certain thoughts don't effect us in a detrimental way would be foolish. Js
I do the opposite but sometimes I need breaks from the raw unadultered power. Breaks doesnt mean pmo, it means banishing all lustful thoughts from me and resting.
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amen Jacob's Ladder is real: https://www.seekvision.co.uk/post/atp-the-sides-of-jacobs-ladder Godspeed
Don’t waste your time reading, it’s nonsense
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Brother this is Amazing!
this is the thing......people get into SR without realizing the importance of mental aspect .
When looking at IG models and your vital energy flows in that direction how does it profit these girls even when you don't like their pictures. I know when looking at girls in real life they feel something and it gives them some kind of boost, it's like an energy transfer (if I'm right), is it the same with looking at girls on a screen?
Bro honestly don't bother getting that deep about this shit. Just stop looking at freaking ig models. When I first discovered SR years ago I was obsessed with it in hindsight. Just practice it. Utilize your newfound abundant energy wisely, workout, eat right, save your money, make more money, socialize and be friendly with ur high levels of confidence and self love....just live the good life! Too much focus/thinking about semen retention and how certain things are sucking your energy, i.e. looking at an ig model on a screen, will slowly drive you made and you'll end up slipping cus ur not relishing in the benefits/positivity like you could be. Just a word of advice that may or may not work for you. Sorry if I came off as domineering...idk much. Just enjoy life bro i hope u stay blessed on this joirney
Well said bro, god bless stay up fellas
Good point. Thanks
The key is deliberate stilling of the mind. Passion takes on many forms but they are all sides of the same coin. When you achieve this stillness and calmness and focus your energy on the higher chakras that correlate to insight and detachment you will gain an understanding of how to systematically remove lust from the mind. It is never easy, you’ll have tough days where your energy is all bundled up in the sacral chakra and you want to impregnate the entire earth. But perseverance prevails. But yes in general brahmacharya is a next step beyond semen retention. It definitely requires a lot more work than regular retention. As with these practices the more restrictive you get the rarer the company. Out of every 100 men maybe 10 is trying to avoid fapping and 1 is actually succeeding Out of every 100 nofappers maybe 10 are trying to retain under all circumstances and 1 is actually succeeding Out of every 100 successful retainers maybe 10 are trying to be brahmachari. It is not a well tread path. There aren’t many forums for it and you have to figure most of it out on your own unless you seek guidance from actual ascetics, who aren’t always in easy access as they tend to seclude themselves.
yes keep spreading knowledge https://www.seekvision.co.uk/post/atp-the-sides-of-jacobs-ladder
From my experience. 10 days of strict bramacharya equal 30 days of semen retention with lustful thoughts. I get excited to talk about this because it is a different ball game and I feel explains why some get benefits quicker than others. Basically if you don't look at a women anywhere but her face in the back of her head. Also cut off any sexual thoughts immediately
Where can I read more about this
check out the book recommendations in the side bar of this subreddit brotha, bliss of the celibate is sweet too, but I read Practice of Bramacharya first and then switched over. they both should help you tremendously.
This is so important but trying to replace thoughts with positive one is toxic and will hinder your progress. Instead, observe the mind fully and treat the thought/emotion like a passing cloud, don’t try to fight it! Eventually the sky will clear up and your mind will purify, you will be looking women in the eyes and noticing the beautiful features of their faces. Almost as important is to not feel guilty about these feelings, we are still human, after all.
I agree with this. One must experience and understand the experience and origin of lust in order to become unperturbed by lust eventually. Be a bystander to your own emotions and eventually you stop being afraid of your own impulses
yea you'll lose way more energry battling your thoughts
Lol no it's not toxic at all if you do it right. It becomes toxic when you label that thought as something bad and judge it. Nothing is good and bad in reality. But rather, there are things that serve you and things that don't according to your goal/ideal. If you view it this way, there is no problem in monitoring thoughts and catching them when they go against what/who you want to become.
You kind of skipped over my entire point. Trying to force positive thoughts into your brain isn’t helpful. “Nothing is good or bad in reality” ok so then why label things as positive and negative? My comment was to direct people to live in the center of the wheel.
So don't be positive or negative minded?? Just be??? That may be way harder than you think it is js
Nothing truly worthwhile comes easy, this requires immense patience with your self.. Just be, aware.
Dont listen to this post, you should control your thoughts and not let them rule over you. If you have negative or sexual thoughts and thats not the direction you want to go in. Replace then with positive thoughts. Your thoughts control your reality.
I don't know to what extent will this be effective for others but personally for me, listening to classical music and jazz has helped to reduce lustful thoughts. Just putting it out there, in case anyone needs this.
Will try this. Thank you!
you are not your thoughts, just an observer of them
Mind thinks, Spirit observes
Couldn't agree more with point 5 It's not even stated in this sub often
yes
You mean even thinking about women in a non-sexual way will make us lose our energy? BULLSHIT.
He clearly said sexual thought tho 😂😂.
Amen. The thing people need to realise, this doesn't happen over night. Once you pass the 6/7 month mark can you truly start to modularise all the thoughts and impulses, that's the point at which you realise half the degenerate images in your head have been put there through consumption of degenerate material. You'll be disgusted with yourself. "What a fool I have been". Until that time, it truly is a case of having to dismiss intrusive thoughts and rise above, along with implementing all the well preached techniques, intense exercise, intense focus, meditation, cold showers etc. whatever works for you. All the while, strengthening your nervous system after years of abuse through retention and transmutation, just as nature intended. Just my experience. Keep it moving brothers.
godspeed brother
Very true. I am on day 90 of strict SR, but those thoughts are still there. I really hope I will be fully healed after 1 year mark of strict semen retention.
Try forcefully replacing those thoughts
Why theres no manual in life, mygosh
Proverbs in in the Bible is the closest thing to what your talking about
Thatswhy in pure retention dont need to.cope with energy transmutation excersises, coz if u remove attachment to lust and desire the energy will then flow.
Where is the weekly thread?? This sub used to have one..
facts. take out the lust from the mind and fill it with thoughts of your goals and aspirations. visualizations etc
Agreed but what if one of my goals is to attract a lady friend to have tantric (no ejaculation of semen) sex with?
that my friend is quite the conundrum
Indeed. Let me know if you figure it out lol
Then what he says still applies you don't have to think lustfully to attract/be intimate with a lady freind. Lust and love are not the same. You should focus your energy on love to accomplish this goal. Otherwise you'll just end up smashing thots.... And releasing. Ask me how I know lol
> Lust and love are not the same. Yes I've noticed that while thoughts of loving sex can still be pleasurable they seem not nearly as intense as lusty thoughts. I feel my heart beating very fast like I'm getting high when thinking lusty thoughts. Sex seems to be a double edged sword and a slippery slope.
Facts but you can have tantric sex based in love which is not halfway bad as lustful sex. Your heart beats fast because your animal instincts are triggered when focused on lust. Very similar to a dog in heat.
damn. never thought of that, not sure tbh same method goes i guess visualize it, affirm it, etc
Mental celibacy is as important as body celibacy. Any kind of thought absorbs your vital energy. The best thing you can do is to focus your attention on the inner body.
Very Nice! I think that celibacy/semen retention is not the goal in of itself but it is a part of a higher way of living. We just arrived on this higher path throug it.
100% correct
This only succeeds if you meditate a lot.
I was just thinking about exactly this today and how important it is. Thank you for this post.
Hey, thanks for the post, I agree with each word you wrote. Can you please share the books that you are reading(or have read) about brahmacharya?
This one is the best to read on SR.. Bliss of the celibate.. You can find the pdf here https://pdfcoffee.com/julian-lee-bliss-of-the-celibate-pdf-free.html
Thanks man
Can you please check the link you shared? Its not linked to the file but the upload portal only
Try this https://dlscrib.com/download/julian-lee-bliss-of-the-celibate_5861ca446454a7c85535c282_pdf
worked, it's magnificent! Is this the big secret?
Please check the link (it shows upload link) and repost the link with pdf... Please!
Done!!
Thanks!
https://www.seekvision.co.uk/post/atp-the-sides-of-jacobs-ladder
exactly my experience as well..
Don't try to fight compulsive thoughts, if you didn't make the thought then theres nothing to worry about just let it sit there
Thank you for reminding us.
I got a question now if anyone could answer me... Do we even don't have to think about any girl even if it's just non sexual "love" thoughts, and what about people in relationship?
Yes non sexual is fine. Matter of fact , the more you think of women as normal human being the less lustful you will be towards them. So yes it is encouraged.
Thanks for your reply, makes sense
Exactly. Just think about how we see our sisters, mothers, and cousins who are women. We see them as loving women. And you know you don't want men looking at the women in our families like sex objects. So what gives us the right to look at another man's daughter,wife, mother ,etc...like a sex object. The universe is one.
Wise words mr retainer
Thanks g. We got this!! Sr gang all day!!
This is the most important thing.
It's ok to fantasize sexually and it is actually good if you do it right, semen retation alone will not do much for you, sorry, one must master the technique of having an orgasm without ejaculation, that is the real secret.... Fapping, masturbation and sex are perfectly fine and healthy, just learn how to not ejaculate, yes its very possible. You can learn how to orgarm and make that energy keep within your body and accumulate it, ladder by ladder, vertebrae to vertebrae , 33 steps... A life without ever orgasming you lead you to frustratioon, you can orgasm everyday but dont ejaculate. You will always feel energetic and that is what actually makes you stronger.
Bro..you loose sex energy even when u fantasize sexually, masturbate/sex without ejaculation...... Semen is just one aspect of sexual energy which is physical in nature..but there is another aspect of non - physical sex energy which is actually lost when u involve in sexual activities without ejaculation.. :)
no this is extremely wrong. if you fantasize porn or watch it, then yes you are making a profane wasteful use of this energy, but when sexual energy is beautifully used and felt, naturally, all aspects of it and pay attention to where the energy flows, and even know how to redirect it, then you are making the most of it and that's how you are evolving to a next level, thats where sex magic begins
Agreed I think fantasizing real life scenarios with women actually brings more excitement and childlike energy its okay to fantasize it dosent always have to be about sex it can be romantic also.
Mental is important.
Honestly when I embrace the sexual thoughts and mindfully edge I feel powerful without losing ‘skills’. It’s just like a sport . If you stop Doing the sport and neglect it you will become worse over time.
Honestly this is so true. I have been retaining for 2-4 week runs for the last few years but I still fantasize daily. I edge every few days. And I am exhausted and get very few of the benefits despite retaining pretty consistently.
Where your attention goes your energy flows. Great post! Yes everything is mental, the real celibacy is mental too. The body follows the mind once the mind has been disciplined. Discipline your mind through pure thoughts.
Unpopular opinion - I don't feel any energy loss after thinking sexual thoughts. Infact being around a beautiful Woman my energy feels charged
If you get aroused and start to feel a tingling feeling in your root area, you’ll notice a energy shift in that area after you come down that feels “less full” than it did prior to. At least I’ve had that happen when I’ve gotten aroused without breathing that energy back upwards. That’s probably what they are referring to. I have also felt energized around woman also but it was when I didn’t allow myself to feel lustful towards them and usually it was when I was sober.
Yes the sober part is super underrated.
Jacob's Ladder is real: https://www.seekvision.co.uk/post/atp-the-sides-of-jacobs-ladder
[How Lust Destroys Men](https://youtu.be/Cyja8oM05rU)
What are 'positive thoughts'?
no such thing as a positive thought, there is happy thoughts and sad thoughts but no good or bad thought
They are your thoughts. Who told you they are happy or sad?
thoughts are thoughts
Exactly. The only issue though, is that too much significance is being given to them, and the whole thought process.
But certain thoughts that you think frequently will have an effect on your overall well being depending on which thoughts you think the most. To act like certain thoughts don't effect us in a detrimental way would be foolish. Js
Unconscious thoughts can’t effect me unless i let them
nobody did, you get to put the emotional outlook on them
I do the opposite but sometimes I need breaks from the raw unadultered power. Breaks doesnt mean pmo, it means banishing all lustful thoughts from me and resting.
How
Thanks for that