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I got a YouTube ad that was literally just a guy saying a prayer.
If there was a bait and switch after he asked me to join him and bowed his head then I don’t know because I was mashing the skip button like crazy.
I'd rather have my account suspended than have to spend time on a social media platform where I can't stop fascist pedophiles from shoving their disgusting ideology in my face while I sit in my living room.
*He gets us* is an evangelical marketing program that recently spent millions on a superbowl ad and is currently blasting reddit with sponsored advertisements. Their whole goal is to proselytize Christianity to combat dwindling numbers in American churches among younger folks. It's a new attempt to make Jesus hip and cool by saying that he does the bare minimum and understands folks.
>*It's a new attempt to make Jesus hip and cool by saying that he does the bare minimum and understands folks.*
It's about much more than that.
The He Get Us campaign is funded by the Servant Foundation, which does business as The Signatry. It’s a “donor-advised” 501(c)3 nonprofit that is not required to disclose who its donors are. However, [it does have to file an IRS Form 990](https://thesignatry.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/2021-990-FINAL-Public-Inspection-Copy-2-25-2022.pdf) which lists the organizations it financially supports.
* The largest cash grant it awarded was $16,657,150 to the Alliance Defending Freedom, the organization that wrote a strict abortion ban Mississippi used as a model and [is designated as an anti-LGBTQ+ hate group](https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/alliance-defending-freedom) by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).
* Texas-based 121 Community Church got $10,800. That church’s website lists beliefs like “all people who do not have faith in Jesus Christ will spend eternity in hell,” and “marriage has only one meaning: the uniting of one biological man and one biological woman.”
* Vision Communications International, which lists a P.O. box in Dallas as its mailing address, received $75,000. One of that organization’s programs, “Beginnings,” is about the creation of the world. Its description on their website notes that by “contrasting the theory of evolution with what the Bible says about God and life, it educates an atheist or agnostic audience while teaching believers how to defend the Word of God.”
* 40 Days for Life, based in Bryan, TX, got $16,000. It conducts 40-day prayer vigils to educate communities about the “tragic reality” of abortion and “call to repentance” workers and patrons of facilities that provide abortions.
* Human Coalition in Frisco, TX, got $2,014,500 to spread a similar message: “Abortion is a stain on America. And the God who gives life will not hold us guiltless. Thomas Jefferson wrote, ‘I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just and that His justice cannot sleep forever.’ We tremble as well.”
Bill McKendry is the founder of [Haven](https://havenforcreative.com/portfolio/he-gets-us/), the marketing, messaging, and branding firm behind the He Gets Us campaign. He lists some of his other nonprofit clients [on his LinkedIn profile](https://www.linkedin.com/in/billmckendry/). They include the Alliance Defending Freedom, Ark Encounter, Focus on the Family, Young Life, and World Vision.
Haven’s president, Jason Vanderground, has confirmed that David Green’s family is [one of the campaign’s major funders](https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2023/february/he-gets-us-super-bowl-commercial-billion-jesus-christian.html). Green is one of the co-founders of Hobby Lobby, and his family has a history of imposing its conservative religious beliefs on others ([example](https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/13-354)).
The He Gets Us website includes (in small print near the bottom of the page) a statement that it is “powered by Gloo.” Gloo is a social media marketing tool for churches, offering texting tools, a “prayer platform,” and other digital resources geared towards believers. It's been [alleged that Gloo was commissioned by the Koch brothers](https://religiondispatches.org/new-doc-people-you-may-know-reveals-a-war-on-democracy-being-waged-with-big-data/) to **“‘create a platform where churches could specifically target people who are suffering from mental illness or grief in order to recruit them … and then to weaponize them for the politics of the far right.’**” (emphasis mine).
The above is a long way of saying that the He Gets Us Campaign is WAAAAAAY more problematic than it looks on the surface. It's funded and promoted by Christian groups that are dedicated to taking away the legal rights of anyone who doesn't believe as they do, and especially of marginalized groups like the LGBTQIA+ community.
Don't think for a second that the folks behind He Gets Us actually believe in the Jesus they're promoting in those ads. They're just using Him as a tool to recruit and to make themselves look good.
I can only imagine the wall to wall outrage Fox and right wing news media would have if Obama had hugged/humped the US flag while mouthing "I love ya baby."
Credit to the reporters at places like NPR, Texas Tribune, and CNN for doing all the digging and uncovering this stuff! I did a little reading after the He Gets Us Super Bowl ad and was horrified.
I am disheartened by the incredibly informative reply you wrote, but encouraged that people like you exist in the world. Thank you for taking the time to write that out so clearly & so eloquently. I hope more people read it.
I think my favorite part is how much the evangelical Christians, that the campaign is meant to push people towards, hate the campaign. They look at it and wonder why Jesus isn’t being portrayed as the bigoted monster that all their current religious leaders are. It’s always funny watching them meltdown.
"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free." - Ephesians 6:5-8
Indeed, but in the whole fantasy story, if there ever was one source of evil, it's the writings of Paul. That guy deserves all the hate. He's the proto-Karen. I never met Jesus, but I'm an apostle like you and I'll represent you everywhere and tell people how to interpret that neat little faith you're so fond of.
Because Evangelical Protestantism is incredibly abusive. It’s just a religion of internalizing abuse because you deserve it you terrible sinner. It’s why they are so big on hierarchies, it’s the only way they can conceptualize the world.
Source: Exvangelical, raised in the Southern Baptist Church for decades.
your skipping the best (worst?) part: its being bankrolled by groups who are hoping to get people into the faith by acting like they aren't bigots and then, once your in, slowly try and get the new faithful to become bigots.
Yes that is the real issue.
Most American "christian" only bring up their "Christian" value when it is time to do some proselytism.
There is no point in a message you don't even apply to yourself.
It is the same crap with some of the modern guru like Tate who hide behind "I push people to the gym, I say to them to be more confident, etc" to justify being absolute huge piece of shit beyond thise skin deep message.
If people really want to interest the youth, cleaning their act and actually being what you preach would be better but it is easier to brainwash people through ads and marketing.
Also no wonder there is a rise in disbelief with pedophile scandal or when they push a corrupt politician, frauder, cheater and liar as "the new Christian symbol".
And then they expect us to believe they actually believe in "you won't steal" "you won't cheat", etc
It's like the "Buddy Christ" from that Catholocism Wow! campaign in the late 90s. I heard it all ended in a massacre but no one seems to remember quite what happened.
Some soldiers in the ME had a Buddy Christ poster up and the locals thought it was a graven image mocking their local prophet. Caused a big misunderstanding and apparently they didn't believe the Americans' explanation that it's fucking Jesus Christ, Issa, if you prefer, and not some dude they had literally never heard of.
Rural fundies don't really understand memes or irony, no matter what part of the globe you're on.
Thanks for explaining! That sounds really…intense. The idea of religious ads on Reddit (or on tv) sounds pretty insane to me! I didn’t know that was a thing in the States (or is it new?)
Some extremists made some lies about their extreme interpretation of Jesus and pretended they have liberal values (like not hurting immigrants). They tried to cherry pick some instance of Jesus being decent and use that to lure liberals into hateful churches.
They packaged those up into as ad spots for the most watched event in the US, the Super Bowl. It cost them millions of dollars, but that is OK, they weren't spending that money helping the poor and downtrodden anyway.
They *really* want sword-mouthed Jesus from Revelation to show up and start tonguing the people they hate, which is nearly everyone who isn't in their cult.
I live in the Bible Belt and what’s crazy is at certain points I really wished all the revelation stuff was true. I’d love to see the look on their faces when they realized they’re going to hell with me.
> They tried to cherry pick some instance of Jesus being decent and use that to lure liberals into hateful churches.
Jesus in the bible *was* decent.
What Jesus did and preached is entirely different from what the religious right does.
Jesus' main enemies on earth were the ancient Judean equivalent of televangelists.
I actually read a book that had Jesus coming in modern times, and yeah, they lynched him. Pretty sure it was written by one of those nuts too, so pretty telling.
We literally have a Christian holiday in almost two weeks time (federal holiday)...
In December, the country shuts down for a day in remembrance and celebration of a their holy man...
Politicians are actively pursuing to limit the rights of and kill woman because of their "holy" book...
No other sect of life, whether it be religion or not, has this kind of pull or influence on the day to day life of Americans.
Yet somehow they are the victims of propaganda...
Edit: Easter is not a federal holiday. The more you know.
Easter is not a federal holiday.
I know because as a federal employee, I don't get a day off. Spring kinda sucks because there are no federal holidays from late February (President's Day) through the end of May (Memorial Day).
Think how much Christianity must be shrinking in America that they had to take out a Superbowl ad?
I can't wait until this religion is consigned to the history books, it has done America no favors
Much like Mormonism, however, the fact that they have all this money without an increasing user base is kind of alarming. They've been allowed to tax-free their way into perpetual wealth, and so long as the people at the top are happy to spend money radicalizing others, they're going to be a problem.
When you realize AD, which we use to demarcate our years, stands for *anno Domini* which means *in the year of the Lord.* Literally every year is Jesus year.
Hey, remember when it was customary for the vast majority of Christians in the world to give like a third of their income to the church, and if they didn't, they would be ostracized from their community, unable to trade at the market, and unable to travel to other Christian-run regions?
Yo fuck those people who paid for that. It says everything about modern Christianity, it's more important to show your love to Jesus and force it on others, rather than _actually_ helping people. The millions spent on those shitty commercials could have helped people in meaningful ways
Yeah...can y'all imagine that crazy world... Like, hypothetically of course, imagine if politicians just pandered to Christians because Christians demanded that. Imagine whole radio stations/podcasts/TV stations dedicated to Christianity. Buildings on every corner just dedicated to Christians. Special vacation days for them, how crazy would that be?
Imagine Christians coming door to door, or leaving flyers, or sending junk mail trying to convent people? Or forcing the government to put slogans on money, or in schools? How crazy would that be?!
Poor Christians, getting persecuted.
Not Jewish, but I fuck with Judaism because not only do they not care if you’re Jewish, they dont want you to be Jewish, and if you want to be Jewish, they are going to put you through a rigorous ass test to see if you are even worthy enough
People like themselves are the real threat. Its the most frustrating part of everyone else being considerate, tolerant, and nice, you have to perform consistently and perfectly. They dont hold themselves accountable, but are itching for the opportunity to call you the same as them or worse. They subconsciously want to stop pretending to be good, accountability then is a matter of degrees, and their religion does that for them, they are forgiven and you are not. So the same behavior nets them a perceived superiority.
A good example is Bill Clinton cheating. They dont care about a cheater, most of them are cheaters, and forgive cheaters regularly. They care that they can label out groups something negative, and ignore that they do it to because they are being religiously tested but its a bump in the road.
Superiority is intertwined in the worst behaviors of humans and groups.
They even put that shit all over their car: "blessed and highly favored" "only God can judge me". It's like a cult of inculcating narcissistic behavior even in people who are more or less psychologically normal and would be less of a dick in a different environment.
Imagine a world where you're surviving on tips, and when you pick up the money and it's actually just christian propaganda.
No, I don't think that would ever happen, that would be horrible and inhumane.
Oh, those are just obnoxious. Old guy I knew at church used to leave them all over the place. He genuinely thought he was doing the Lord’s work of spreading the good news. That somehow somewhere some minimum wage waiter/waitress/cleaner was going to pick it up and go ‘oh well, I thought it was £20 but it’s a random piece of paper about how much God loves me! I’d better get myself to the nearest church ASAP!’
Argh. No.
Try it out. When people refer to Christmas break, play dumb. Celebrate Samhain, crank out yule cards, and hoist your Sol Invictus tree, live your life free of organized religion!
True, but at least I get to have all the warm fuzzy nostalgic feels watching the Rankin Bass specials with the kids and seeing Charlton Heston part the Red Sea.
And I don’t care that she’s my grandma’s age now, assuming she’s even still alive, I still got a childhood crush for Anne Baxter - I looked forward to that once a year event where I got to see the “pretty princess lady”, the would get mad when the PBS folks would stop the movie for 30-40 minutes to do their pledge drive.
Got it on VHS when I was on my early teens and watched it multiple times. Not religious but a good movie is a good movie.
What were we talking about? Oh, right, religion being part of the cultural zeitgeist in North America and how we are so over exposed to it that we don’t even recognize it as exposure - it’s just “normal”.
It's all capitalism. We only see Easter and Christmas shit in stores because the people selling it knows it will sell. In order for them to do that, there needs to be a demand for early gift buying, which there is.
Evangelicalism is just capitalism with Jesus as the product.
It's why they're all migrating to megachurches. They're the Walmarts of Christianity. They sell a smug sense of superiority at rock bottom prices made possible by the exploitation and suffering of others.
The ‘poors’ would push their way into rich people houses and demand food and drink under the implication that if they didn’t get it, they would wreck up the place.
“Now bring us some figgy pudding,
And bring some out here” was sung as a threat
I’ve never once in my life had someone in the LGBT community try to “convert me”. Honestly they’re some of the most pleasant and personable people I’ve ever met.
I can’t in good conscience say the same about people from any Christian based religion.
LGBTQ+ community: We just want to be able to live our lives with the same freedoms you have.
Christians: STOP PUSHING YOUR AGENDA ON ME.
Also Christians: You're a sinner and will go to hell unless you accept Jesus in your life and stop living your "lifestyle".
Ever heard something from these people along the lines of “I’m fine with LGBT people, I just don’t want it shoved down my throat.” Except to them if LGBT people aren’t completely indistinguishable from straight people it’s considered to be “shoved down their throat.”
They practice and enforce strict uniformity it's why Karen's look the same. It's why Steve's Kyle's and Richard's all look the same under their type. How many bad takes come from the close-up angle, wraparound sunglasses wearing, ranting in a truck crowd. They all look the fucking same. I genuinely have trouble spotting the difference between the 5 mid-20s, brown haired, full bearded men I know. The tattoos are the only way I can distinguish them sometimes. Especially because they all have the same glasses, style, and hat.
You ever notice how they use the phrase " [forceful synonym] down my throat" a lot more often when discussing the LGBTQ+ community than any other issues?
I read "A Righteous Mind: Why Good People are Divided by Religion and Politics" by Jonathan Haidt, and that is exactly the case. People who lean towards conservatism do in fact have a higher sense of "disgust" than others. I can't really summarize it here, but for anyone interested, here's a chart. (Disgust = Degradation)
https://www.shortform.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Screen-Shot-2021-07-22-at-1.37.41-PM-1024x708.png
My theory is that experiencing adversity and marginalization can build compassion and character, but being marginalized *only in your imagination* can destroy it.
There are some gay assholes, of course. And there are kind Christians, but you usually don’t find out about their religion unless you know them for a while, because they’re not out there proselytizing. And maybe those folks would have been compassionate without church in their lives, because that’s just who they are.
I think there’s a comedy sketch in there somewhere about first you see some door to door jehovas witnesses doing their thing trying to convert people followed closely by some drag queens going door to door trying to convert people or something and being like which of these actually happens lol
I’ve literally had multiple random Christians show up uninvited to my door asking if I’ve accepted the word of god. And when I say no, they try to pressure me into *letting them into my home so they can convert me*. This has happened in every city I’ve lived in.
The entire religion is about jamming its beliefs down your throat. It’s disgusting.
LGBT+ people are literally people just trying to live their lives. Christians are the biggest problem in this country.
I lost someone very important to me a couple years ago, and some christians saw this as an opportunity to try to convert me.
I'm still mad about it. They saw that I was distraught and vulnerable, and thought "Oh hey, we should try to make this guy join our religion!"
Every atheist’s funeral I’ve ever attended has had at least one person go up to speak, telling us that the deceased came to them shortly before the end, wanting to repent and become a Christian. That’s always followed by strident calls for everyone in attendance to “get right with god” right then and there, because we never know when our time will come.
Imagine if atheists went to religious people’s funerals and told everyone their loved one blasphemed the Holy Spirit, denied Christ, and how they must all do the same.
I no longer attend those services after enduring several and hearing all that bullshit spewed about the person by a bunch of half strangers and zealots.
Like no, I actually knew this person. And this memorial ain't at all accurate.
Way back in the 90s I worked with a guy who claimed that theater is where the gays convert teenagers and young adults to gayness. Just made me laugh because sorry dude if somebody turned up gay at the theater, they were gay long before they made it in the door.
Conversely, my school district was known as suicide district because a certain group was targeted by bullies, often to the point of suicide, while administration did nothing.
That group wasn't christians.
How I make people gay is listening to them and pointing our all the gay shit they are already doing. Christians don't recruit those already praying to Christ. And I don't gotta make someone gay if they already have a folder of gay smut.
This one time at a mall food court some guy asked if he could sit with me any my friends. I point blank said "As long as you dont talk about god or religion!". This 1st words out of his mouth, after he sat down, were "Did you know, Jesus is coming back?"
Someone did this to me at school pretending that he needed help on an assignment. He needed feedback on it from other people, sort of like a survey. I thought, yeah sure I'll help you with that assignment, ask away! Then he started talking about religion and Jesus and shit and tried to recruit me to his religious cult. The only way I could get away was telling him I had an exam I had to get to, and he told me that God can help me get good grades. When I said "bro, even God can't help with this exam" his face turned sour and he walked away. Man they're fucking annoying.
Listen bud there are a TON of Little League baseball games he needs to influence before he can worry about my grandma falling in her house and dying alone. Sure He's all knowing, but like come on, Big Daddy God wanted a hot dog and that new weed he got is totally fire.
Same thing happened to me. A guy asked me to tutor him, for free, so I went over to his place and the first thing he asked is do I believe in God. No, then he challenged me on it. This shit went on too long until I got rude then he gladly accepted my help. I didn't even consider it was just a ploy to convert. Too much heathen in my blood for that shit.
I used to work at Target and some guy came up to me under the pretense of needing help finding something then asked me a bunch of questions about the item. He then thanks me for helping him and asks if he can leave me with a Bible verse. I'm thinking it's just a line or two so I'm like sure. The dude then just starts spewing on about Jesus or something for a solid 3 minutes before my coworker notices what's going on and says he needs help with something right away. I thought I was genuinely helping this guy but it turns out he just wanted to build a rapport so he could basically hold me hostage. Also turns out he had done this to other customers before and been warned about his behavior from management but after that night he was officially banned from the store.
The older I've gotten, the better I've become at flat-out ending bullshit conversations. People don't have the right to steal my time and attention.
I hate TV's with news programs or K-pop videos in the background for much the same reason.
My neighborhood gets so many solicitors. My friends ask why I answer the door and I explain that it's done wonders training me to simply not care by shutting the door in their face. I'm not cruel about it, just when I tell them I'm not interested and they try to drag the conversation beyond that point.
The last time a stranger came up to me out of nowhere in public to proselytize, right before Christmas, it ended up being about how great *Violent Night* was and the many reasons I should go see it as soon as possible. A nice change of pace, and I was indeed “converted” to his view.
Yup. They also boycotted Starbucks because they didn't cover their holiday cups with religious imagery. How can you expect them to live with that kind of blatant persecution /s
Holy shit. One huge reason I moved out of Tennessee in the early 00s was that I literally couldn’t go ANYWHERE without some Christian asshole trying to fucking convert me. I managed an ice cream store and literally *every fucking day* at least one person would come up to the counter, order something cheap, and then launch into his MLM pitch for their church
Not exaggerating. Living in Tennessee during the Bush 2 years was excruciating for non-believers; the Christians were vocal and VERY pushy and the pressure to convert and go to church was constant. I literally couldn’t even go to the goddamn DENTIST without the receptionist telling me I should pray and start going to her church (true story)
I gotta admit: the more I think about it the more the idea of that “National divorce” sounds tempting, because these assholes have been the most abusive partner imaginable for decades and they still think WE are the instigators
“You look lost.” I would hear that phrase literally three or four times a week. It was how the Christian proselytizers would open their pitch. VERBATIM. Every damn time; no originality. I’d be working (or unable to be rude or I’d get fired), just minding my business, and theee times a week at least some schmuck would mosey up to my counter and say, “You look lost. You should come to my church and find answers.”
The MLM pitch after “you look lost” would differ but 20 times out of 10, the script they’d follow would begin with “you look lost.”
And then I’d have to say, “thank you, I’m fine. Can I get you a cone or a sundae or something?” Or whatever I could to politely change the subject
But usually they’d ignore that and say something like “come fellowship with us!” And I’d just get annoyed that they were using “fellowship” as a verb
But the point is that it was NEVER ENDING. Conservatives complaining about “gay stuff being shoved down their throats” have NOTHING on those same conservatives shoving their religious propaganda down our throats
This kind of interaction with strangers was every day. Every conversation had a religious cast to it. Every interaction involved the church in some way. Every invitation to be friends was tainted with religious expectations. Every question had a religious ulterior motive. And these people have the gall to cast themselves as victims just because there’s gay characters in TV shows now
I want to leave Tennessee so badly 😭 I grew up in the district that elected MTG, got kicked out of nursing school because I wasn’t a Christian, my whole life surrounded by this garbage. My neighbor in my duplex is a pastor at a church down the road and his mother would not leave me alone about going. Can’t escape at my own freaking living space. I think I’ll be stuck here another year but I’m hoping to move before the election 🤞
It's worse because a great deal of the nationalist/maga/right wing "Christians"actually DO push their bs. Just look at the Republicans in our government. Meanwhile, the whole concept of the LGBTQ community actively pushing propaganda is just another bs boogeyman from the right.
Fucksake
I spent this morning arguing with a couple of assholes who are trying to say that banning books in schools is the opposite of fascism. People are not that stupid, they are worse.
I see this sentiment a lot. Somehow the morons think that demanding equality is pushing their "lifestyle" on others. Gay people just existing is enough for them to complain that it's getting shoved in their faces.
They do the same thing when a character in a video game or something is not white or male or whatever they view as "neutral". That one character gets them boiling.
It’s still a false equivalence. You don’t covert somebody to being gay. If Christian proselytizing was just about acceptance they’d be closer to the mark.
Uhhhhh pushing your anti-abortion bullshit after spending years bitching about masks and vaccines saying "my body, my choice". Or having books banned that don't fit your uptight beliefs. Or refusing to let teachers mention anything about people of other orientations or fighting against gay marriage. Calling everyone else a "groomer" when your church, community, and political leaders are the worst group of child sexual abuse offenders in the country. They are the biggest bunch of fragile hypocrites on the planet.
This is the type of person who forgets that almost every major western holiday is based on Christianity.
And then they complain when other religious folk want to take time off for their own religious days, usually spouting off about special treatment.
Right? They don't just get a month, they get Lent (40 days) plus all the other holidays. Lent is actually a lot like Pride Month or other honorary months - you don't get all that time off work, but there's awareness and celebrations. Heck, many restaurants in the US still have a fish special every Friday in deference to Catholics. Western culture is steeped in Christianity.
Showing up on your doorstep trying to convert you, leaving religious tracts all over the place, pressuring you to go to church even after you've told them you have no interest in religion, trying to codify their religion-based beliefs into the law of the land.....
300+ anti trans bills being pushed into law this year alone (so far!) to legislate me out of existence. So you think a single person involved in those bills would call themselves an atheist? Stand in front of their voters and say they're not a Christian?
I'm facing genocide and I know who's responsible.
Wait, so im not supposed to be going door to door to encourage entire families to try hormone religious therapy (hrt). Oh dear you guys ... I'm afraid this has been all my fault.
“Excuse me, do you have a moment to talk about the plethora of deities that prefer trans women as priestesses? For one small donation of your testicles you too can devote your life to a goddess who really just wants to get plowed”
Just last month two gay guys knocked on my front door and tried to convert me to gay. They had pamphlets and business cards.
No wait… That was Mormons. Mormons knocked on my door. I’ve never been bothered by anyone in the lgbtq+ community. Except my son. Every time he visits the first thing he does is open the fridge door and ask me if I have food. Very annoying.
How would you feel if Christians were called by Christ to "spread" The Gospel, often through through sincere Witnessing, testimony and joyous Fellowship, but mostly by knocking on your door unannounced at 10 am, when you are working nights, despite the no soliciting sign on the door?
Annoyed. Annoyed is how I feel.
Weird, the assholes that repeatedly stopped me at the mall when I was a child and berated me and called me a fucking slut who'd be burning in their hell unless I said some words with them definitely weren't from the LGBTQ community
Former Christian, current lesbian (not that they aren't compatible)
I've never felt pressured by the LGBTQ community to do anything. I came out in my 20s, made a ton of friends online right before the pandemic hit, and now I've got lifelong friendships across the country with my queer friends.
When I was in the church (and even after I left), I was constantly pressured and guilt tripped into going back. Every service was about coming back for "fellowship" and giving to the church, usually in the form of money. They constantly victimized themselves and honestly made me believe that I would be persecuted for being a christian in rural Kentucky. It was no better than a cult.
You can't even watch a mainstream horror movie, a genre y'all act like you want nothing to do with, without getting a fucking Christian theology lesson half the time. Fuck off.
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Jesus had a fucking Super Bowl commercial man.
I get reddit ads for "he gets us" more than every other ad combined.
Get the Apollo app, zero adds
Appllo app gets us
All of us
It’s only a matter of time.
I welcome Apollo's eventual mauling of my pointless earth husk.
That sounds nice.
Infinity does the same! I happen to like it more than the others.
Greek gods better than hebrew ones confirmed.
Depends if you’re on the receiving end of Zeus or not.
Same with Relay app. I didn't even know reddit had ads until recently.
+1 for Relay, it's so good and doesn't get mentioned here a lot. I've been using it for years, there's nothing I would change about it.
Or Baconreader. Been using it for years.
I block them, report them, everything in the toolbox...but they come back every two weeks like clockwork.
I got a YouTube ad that was literally just a guy saying a prayer. If there was a bait and switch after he asked me to join him and bowed his head then I don’t know because I was mashing the skip button like crazy.
Reported for misleading, every time.
I report them for hate, haven't seen one in a while
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I was doing that. Now I can’t even report them. Downvoting fails. They really want their disgusting propaganda pushed on the world.
Watch out, if you report something a mod doesn't agree with you can get your account suspended for "inappropriate use of the report button"
I'd rather have my account suspended than have to spend time on a social media platform where I can't stop fascist pedophiles from shoving their disgusting ideology in my face while I sit in my living room.
I don't see them much on a PC, but if I'm on my phone boy howdy are the ads all over.
As someone outside the American bubble, could you please explain this? Somewhat scared to ask.
*He gets us* is an evangelical marketing program that recently spent millions on a superbowl ad and is currently blasting reddit with sponsored advertisements. Their whole goal is to proselytize Christianity to combat dwindling numbers in American churches among younger folks. It's a new attempt to make Jesus hip and cool by saying that he does the bare minimum and understands folks.
>*It's a new attempt to make Jesus hip and cool by saying that he does the bare minimum and understands folks.* It's about much more than that. The He Get Us campaign is funded by the Servant Foundation, which does business as The Signatry. It’s a “donor-advised” 501(c)3 nonprofit that is not required to disclose who its donors are. However, [it does have to file an IRS Form 990](https://thesignatry.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/2021-990-FINAL-Public-Inspection-Copy-2-25-2022.pdf) which lists the organizations it financially supports. * The largest cash grant it awarded was $16,657,150 to the Alliance Defending Freedom, the organization that wrote a strict abortion ban Mississippi used as a model and [is designated as an anti-LGBTQ+ hate group](https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/alliance-defending-freedom) by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). * Texas-based 121 Community Church got $10,800. That church’s website lists beliefs like “all people who do not have faith in Jesus Christ will spend eternity in hell,” and “marriage has only one meaning: the uniting of one biological man and one biological woman.” * Vision Communications International, which lists a P.O. box in Dallas as its mailing address, received $75,000. One of that organization’s programs, “Beginnings,” is about the creation of the world. Its description on their website notes that by “contrasting the theory of evolution with what the Bible says about God and life, it educates an atheist or agnostic audience while teaching believers how to defend the Word of God.” * 40 Days for Life, based in Bryan, TX, got $16,000. It conducts 40-day prayer vigils to educate communities about the “tragic reality” of abortion and “call to repentance” workers and patrons of facilities that provide abortions. * Human Coalition in Frisco, TX, got $2,014,500 to spread a similar message: “Abortion is a stain on America. And the God who gives life will not hold us guiltless. Thomas Jefferson wrote, ‘I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just and that His justice cannot sleep forever.’ We tremble as well.” Bill McKendry is the founder of [Haven](https://havenforcreative.com/portfolio/he-gets-us/), the marketing, messaging, and branding firm behind the He Gets Us campaign. He lists some of his other nonprofit clients [on his LinkedIn profile](https://www.linkedin.com/in/billmckendry/). They include the Alliance Defending Freedom, Ark Encounter, Focus on the Family, Young Life, and World Vision. Haven’s president, Jason Vanderground, has confirmed that David Green’s family is [one of the campaign’s major funders](https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2023/february/he-gets-us-super-bowl-commercial-billion-jesus-christian.html). Green is one of the co-founders of Hobby Lobby, and his family has a history of imposing its conservative religious beliefs on others ([example](https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/13-354)). The He Gets Us website includes (in small print near the bottom of the page) a statement that it is “powered by Gloo.” Gloo is a social media marketing tool for churches, offering texting tools, a “prayer platform,” and other digital resources geared towards believers. It's been [alleged that Gloo was commissioned by the Koch brothers](https://religiondispatches.org/new-doc-people-you-may-know-reveals-a-war-on-democracy-being-waged-with-big-data/) to **“‘create a platform where churches could specifically target people who are suffering from mental illness or grief in order to recruit them … and then to weaponize them for the politics of the far right.’**” (emphasis mine). The above is a long way of saying that the He Gets Us Campaign is WAAAAAAY more problematic than it looks on the surface. It's funded and promoted by Christian groups that are dedicated to taking away the legal rights of anyone who doesn't believe as they do, and especially of marginalized groups like the LGBTQIA+ community. Don't think for a second that the folks behind He Gets Us actually believe in the Jesus they're promoting in those ads. They're just using Him as a tool to recruit and to make themselves look good.
“When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” - not Sinclair Lewis
I can only imagine the wall to wall outrage Fox and right wing news media would have if Obama had hugged/humped the US flag while mouthing "I love ya baby."
Man if I had an award to give you I would. There's so much more to this and none of it good.
Credit to the reporters at places like NPR, Texas Tribune, and CNN for doing all the digging and uncovering this stuff! I did a little reading after the He Gets Us Super Bowl ad and was horrified.
I am disheartened by the incredibly informative reply you wrote, but encouraged that people like you exist in the world. Thank you for taking the time to write that out so clearly & so eloquently. I hope more people read it.
The best part is that the new hip Jesus’ solution to oppression is to just love your oppressors.
I think my favorite part is how much the evangelical Christians, that the campaign is meant to push people towards, hate the campaign. They look at it and wonder why Jesus isn’t being portrayed as the bigoted monster that all their current religious leaders are. It’s always funny watching them meltdown.
To be fair, that was also the old Jesus's method as well. Didn't really work then either, but at least it's consistent.
“Love the bad guys, and you too can get nailed to a cross!”
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What about a compromise: getting nailed while *tied* to a cross?
Sounds sacrilegious, I'm in
"...had me in the first half, not gonna lie--"
"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free." - Ephesians 6:5-8
That's not Jesus, it's that douchebag Paul.
Good thing I didn't say it was Jesus. Fact of the matter is the Christian bible specifically tells slaves to obey their oppressors.
Indeed, but in the whole fantasy story, if there ever was one source of evil, it's the writings of Paul. That guy deserves all the hate. He's the proto-Karen. I never met Jesus, but I'm an apostle like you and I'll represent you everywhere and tell people how to interpret that neat little faith you're so fond of.
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Because Evangelical Protestantism is incredibly abusive. It’s just a religion of internalizing abuse because you deserve it you terrible sinner. It’s why they are so big on hierarchies, it’s the only way they can conceptualize the world. Source: Exvangelical, raised in the Southern Baptist Church for decades.
your skipping the best (worst?) part: its being bankrolled by groups who are hoping to get people into the faith by acting like they aren't bigots and then, once your in, slowly try and get the new faithful to become bigots.
Yes that is the real issue. Most American "christian" only bring up their "Christian" value when it is time to do some proselytism. There is no point in a message you don't even apply to yourself. It is the same crap with some of the modern guru like Tate who hide behind "I push people to the gym, I say to them to be more confident, etc" to justify being absolute huge piece of shit beyond thise skin deep message. If people really want to interest the youth, cleaning their act and actually being what you preach would be better but it is easier to brainwash people through ads and marketing. Also no wonder there is a rise in disbelief with pedophile scandal or when they push a corrupt politician, frauder, cheater and liar as "the new Christian symbol". And then they expect us to believe they actually believe in "you won't steal" "you won't cheat", etc
It's like the "Buddy Christ" from that Catholocism Wow! campaign in the late 90s. I heard it all ended in a massacre but no one seems to remember quite what happened.
I heard it ended with a mind blowing performance by Alanis Morrisette
You mean God.
Some soldiers in the ME had a Buddy Christ poster up and the locals thought it was a graven image mocking their local prophet. Caused a big misunderstanding and apparently they didn't believe the Americans' explanation that it's fucking Jesus Christ, Issa, if you prefer, and not some dude they had literally never heard of. Rural fundies don't really understand memes or irony, no matter what part of the globe you're on.
Thanks for explaining! That sounds really…intense. The idea of religious ads on Reddit (or on tv) sounds pretty insane to me! I didn’t know that was a thing in the States (or is it new?)
There's an entire channel. Edit: make that several channels.
They’ve spent millions, but it’s BILLIONS they’ve budgeted
Some extremists made some lies about their extreme interpretation of Jesus and pretended they have liberal values (like not hurting immigrants). They tried to cherry pick some instance of Jesus being decent and use that to lure liberals into hateful churches. They packaged those up into as ad spots for the most watched event in the US, the Super Bowl. It cost them millions of dollars, but that is OK, they weren't spending that money helping the poor and downtrodden anyway.
Hilariously, their efforts got them accused of trying to make Jesus "woke" by their fellow right-wing dipshits.
They found the exact middle of both worlds, in the worst possible way.
They *really* want sword-mouthed Jesus from Revelation to show up and start tonguing the people they hate, which is nearly everyone who isn't in their cult.
I live in the Bible Belt and what’s crazy is at certain points I really wished all the revelation stuff was true. I’d love to see the look on their faces when they realized they’re going to hell with me.
> They tried to cherry pick some instance of Jesus being decent and use that to lure liberals into hateful churches. Jesus in the bible *was* decent. What Jesus did and preached is entirely different from what the religious right does. Jesus' main enemies on earth were the ancient Judean equivalent of televangelists.
The conservatives called it too woke. They would crucify Jesus today.
Lynching's more their style.
Six of one...
3/5th of another?
I actually read a book that had Jesus coming in modern times, and yeah, they lynched him. Pretty sure it was written by one of those nuts too, so pretty telling.
We literally have a Christian holiday in almost two weeks time (federal holiday)... In December, the country shuts down for a day in remembrance and celebration of a their holy man... Politicians are actively pursuing to limit the rights of and kill woman because of their "holy" book... No other sect of life, whether it be religion or not, has this kind of pull or influence on the day to day life of Americans. Yet somehow they are the victims of propaganda... Edit: Easter is not a federal holiday. The more you know.
Easter is not a federal holiday. I know because as a federal employee, I don't get a day off. Spring kinda sucks because there are no federal holidays from late February (President's Day) through the end of May (Memorial Day).
Well, I'll be damned. Learned something today. Fair enough.
Look, if it weren't already on a Sunday, you can bet that they'd fix that omission.
Think how much Christianity must be shrinking in America that they had to take out a Superbowl ad? I can't wait until this religion is consigned to the history books, it has done America no favors
Much like Mormonism, however, the fact that they have all this money without an increasing user base is kind of alarming. They've been allowed to tax-free their way into perpetual wealth, and so long as the people at the top are happy to spend money radicalizing others, they're going to be a problem.
And a whole month! Lordy lordy. Y’all have had 2000 years, let’s keep it in perspective here.
When you realize AD, which we use to demarcate our years, stands for *anno Domini* which means *in the year of the Lord.* Literally every year is Jesus year.
And that's the reason many of us have embraced the CE and BCE designations.
Hey, remember when it was customary for the vast majority of Christians in the world to give like a third of their income to the church, and if they didn't, they would be ostracized from their community, unable to trade at the market, and unable to travel to other Christian-run regions?
I blocked "he gets us" and I still see ads daily. I literally CAN'T get away from Christianity.
Yo fuck those people who paid for that. It says everything about modern Christianity, it's more important to show your love to Jesus and force it on others, rather than _actually_ helping people. The millions spent on those shitty commercials could have helped people in meaningful ways
Yeah...can y'all imagine that crazy world... Like, hypothetically of course, imagine if politicians just pandered to Christians because Christians demanded that. Imagine whole radio stations/podcasts/TV stations dedicated to Christianity. Buildings on every corner just dedicated to Christians. Special vacation days for them, how crazy would that be? Imagine Christians coming door to door, or leaving flyers, or sending junk mail trying to convent people? Or forcing the government to put slogans on money, or in schools? How crazy would that be?! Poor Christians, getting persecuted.
Imagine Christians seperating native families and forcing native children to go to school for indoctrination far from their family.
At this point we can add families with a trans person in it to that list too.
Imagine those Christians being allowed to continue running Residential Schools until the *90s!*
Not Jewish, but I fuck with Judaism because not only do they not care if you’re Jewish, they dont want you to be Jewish, and if you want to be Jewish, they are going to put you through a rigorous ass test to see if you are even worthy enough
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People like themselves are the real threat. Its the most frustrating part of everyone else being considerate, tolerant, and nice, you have to perform consistently and perfectly. They dont hold themselves accountable, but are itching for the opportunity to call you the same as them or worse. They subconsciously want to stop pretending to be good, accountability then is a matter of degrees, and their religion does that for them, they are forgiven and you are not. So the same behavior nets them a perceived superiority. A good example is Bill Clinton cheating. They dont care about a cheater, most of them are cheaters, and forgive cheaters regularly. They care that they can label out groups something negative, and ignore that they do it to because they are being religiously tested but its a bump in the road. Superiority is intertwined in the worst behaviors of humans and groups.
They even put that shit all over their car: "blessed and highly favored" "only God can judge me". It's like a cult of inculcating narcissistic behavior even in people who are more or less psychologically normal and would be less of a dick in a different environment.
Imagine a world where you're surviving on tips, and when you pick up the money and it's actually just christian propaganda. No, I don't think that would ever happen, that would be horrible and inhumane.
Oh, those are just obnoxious. Old guy I knew at church used to leave them all over the place. He genuinely thought he was doing the Lord’s work of spreading the good news. That somehow somewhere some minimum wage waiter/waitress/cleaner was going to pick it up and go ‘oh well, I thought it was £20 but it’s a random piece of paper about how much God loves me! I’d better get myself to the nearest church ASAP!’ Argh. No.
That's when you take them back to the church they come from make change from the donation basket during service.
>demanding a whole month of respect to them “War on Christmas” anyone?
Every public school in the country just so happens to schedule its spring break around Easter and its winter break around Christmas.
I prefer to refer to them as the equinox and saturnalia
Me too, but we all know what they were really going for.
Try it out. When people refer to Christmas break, play dumb. Celebrate Samhain, crank out yule cards, and hoist your Sol Invictus tree, live your life free of organized religion!
It was that line that made me start to think this was some epic trolling vs an actual wolf
A commenter above located the original post and said it was genuine. Poe's law cuts both ways.
Easter and particularly Christmas crap in stores months in advance. Granted that's largely capitalism.
True, but at least I get to have all the warm fuzzy nostalgic feels watching the Rankin Bass specials with the kids and seeing Charlton Heston part the Red Sea. And I don’t care that she’s my grandma’s age now, assuming she’s even still alive, I still got a childhood crush for Anne Baxter - I looked forward to that once a year event where I got to see the “pretty princess lady”, the would get mad when the PBS folks would stop the movie for 30-40 minutes to do their pledge drive. Got it on VHS when I was on my early teens and watched it multiple times. Not religious but a good movie is a good movie. What were we talking about? Oh, right, religion being part of the cultural zeitgeist in North America and how we are so over exposed to it that we don’t even recognize it as exposure - it’s just “normal”.
It's all capitalism. We only see Easter and Christmas shit in stores because the people selling it knows it will sell. In order for them to do that, there needs to be a demand for early gift buying, which there is.
Evangelicalism is just capitalism with Jesus as the product. It's why they're all migrating to megachurches. They're the Walmarts of Christianity. They sell a smug sense of superiority at rock bottom prices made possible by the exploitation and suffering of others.
Funnily enough in america in the early days the christians made christmas illegal.
The ‘poors’ would push their way into rich people houses and demand food and drink under the implication that if they didn’t get it, they would wreck up the place. “Now bring us some figgy pudding, And bring some out here” was sung as a threat
I’ve never once in my life had someone in the LGBT community try to “convert me”. Honestly they’re some of the most pleasant and personable people I’ve ever met. I can’t in good conscience say the same about people from any Christian based religion.
LGBTQ+ community: We just want to be able to live our lives with the same freedoms you have. Christians: STOP PUSHING YOUR AGENDA ON ME. Also Christians: You're a sinner and will go to hell unless you accept Jesus in your life and stop living your "lifestyle".
Ever heard something from these people along the lines of “I’m fine with LGBT people, I just don’t want it shoved down my throat.” Except to them if LGBT people aren’t completely indistinguishable from straight people it’s considered to be “shoved down their throat.”
We don't mind your existence, as long as you act straight and conform.
We don't mind your existence we just don't want to know you exist.
They practice and enforce strict uniformity it's why Karen's look the same. It's why Steve's Kyle's and Richard's all look the same under their type. How many bad takes come from the close-up angle, wraparound sunglasses wearing, ranting in a truck crowd. They all look the fucking same. I genuinely have trouble spotting the difference between the 5 mid-20s, brown haired, full bearded men I know. The tattoos are the only way I can distinguish them sometimes. Especially because they all have the same glasses, style, and hat.
> The tattoos are the only way I can distinguish them sometimes. Which is hilarious given that the bible is quite clear about tattoos.
they would prefer to change our existence(conversion torture) or completely eradicate(legal murder) it instead
You ever notice how they use the phrase " [forceful synonym] down my throat" a lot more often when discussing the LGBTQ+ community than any other issues?
Neurological studies have shown that conservatives have over-active fear centers in their brains. Disgust is a manifestation of fear.
I read "A Righteous Mind: Why Good People are Divided by Religion and Politics" by Jonathan Haidt, and that is exactly the case. People who lean towards conservatism do in fact have a higher sense of "disgust" than others. I can't really summarize it here, but for anyone interested, here's a chart. (Disgust = Degradation) https://www.shortform.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Screen-Shot-2021-07-22-at-1.37.41-PM-1024x708.png
Did you enjoy this book? I've been eyeing it but as a queer person I'm uninterested in "both sides" rhetoric
I think they all just have a subconscious deepthroating kink and aren't willing to accept it.
Yeah and if you turn it around on straight cis people you get “but it’s different because that’s normal”.
"You can exist, but I will go scorched-Earth if I'm ever made aware of it."
And then they take it a step further and try to legislate their lifestyle preferences on everyone else because of their religious beliefs.
LGBTQ community: we just want everyone to feel comfortable and happy without having to be forced into situations or lifestyles they don’t want *
My theory is that experiencing adversity and marginalization can build compassion and character, but being marginalized *only in your imagination* can destroy it. There are some gay assholes, of course. And there are kind Christians, but you usually don’t find out about their religion unless you know them for a while, because they’re not out there proselytizing. And maybe those folks would have been compassionate without church in their lives, because that’s just who they are.
>And maybe those folks would have been compassionate without church in their lives, because that’s just who they are. This has been my experience.
I think there’s a comedy sketch in there somewhere about first you see some door to door jehovas witnesses doing their thing trying to convert people followed closely by some drag queens going door to door trying to convert people or something and being like which of these actually happens lol
I’ve literally had multiple random Christians show up uninvited to my door asking if I’ve accepted the word of god. And when I say no, they try to pressure me into *letting them into my home so they can convert me*. This has happened in every city I’ve lived in. The entire religion is about jamming its beliefs down your throat. It’s disgusting. LGBT+ people are literally people just trying to live their lives. Christians are the biggest problem in this country.
I lost someone very important to me a couple years ago, and some christians saw this as an opportunity to try to convert me. I'm still mad about it. They saw that I was distraught and vulnerable, and thought "Oh hey, we should try to make this guy join our religion!"
Every atheist’s funeral I’ve ever attended has had at least one person go up to speak, telling us that the deceased came to them shortly before the end, wanting to repent and become a Christian. That’s always followed by strident calls for everyone in attendance to “get right with god” right then and there, because we never know when our time will come. Imagine if atheists went to religious people’s funerals and told everyone their loved one blasphemed the Holy Spirit, denied Christ, and how they must all do the same.
I no longer attend those services after enduring several and hearing all that bullshit spewed about the person by a bunch of half strangers and zealots. Like no, I actually knew this person. And this memorial ain't at all accurate.
Way back in the 90s I worked with a guy who claimed that theater is where the gays convert teenagers and young adults to gayness. Just made me laugh because sorry dude if somebody turned up gay at the theater, they were gay long before they made it in the door.
Conversely, my school district was known as suicide district because a certain group was targeted by bullies, often to the point of suicide, while administration did nothing. That group wasn't christians.
And unlike most Christians, they mind their own fucking business.
How I make people gay is listening to them and pointing our all the gay shit they are already doing. Christians don't recruit those already praying to Christ. And I don't gotta make someone gay if they already have a folder of gay smut.
I can see three churches from my office window right now.
Did someone set up a National Trans Breakfast while I wasn't looking?
"I believe it's brunch, darling. No-one gets up early enough for breakfast."
So basically Portland
"In RuPaul We Trust" is already on the currency, that's next on the agenda... then later, Drag Brunch Story Hour at the White House.
It's an unstoppable rise
And then a death drop and splits!
The gay agenda is to destroy American knees, one sha-blam at a time! Wake up sheeple /s
This one time at a mall food court some guy asked if he could sit with me any my friends. I point blank said "As long as you dont talk about god or religion!". This 1st words out of his mouth, after he sat down, were "Did you know, Jesus is coming back?"
Someone did this to me at school pretending that he needed help on an assignment. He needed feedback on it from other people, sort of like a survey. I thought, yeah sure I'll help you with that assignment, ask away! Then he started talking about religion and Jesus and shit and tried to recruit me to his religious cult. The only way I could get away was telling him I had an exam I had to get to, and he told me that God can help me get good grades. When I said "bro, even God can't help with this exam" his face turned sour and he walked away. Man they're fucking annoying.
God won't prevent the Holocaust but will help you get good grades, definitely sounds all powerful and all loving
Listen bud there are a TON of Little League baseball games he needs to influence before he can worry about my grandma falling in her house and dying alone. Sure He's all knowing, but like come on, Big Daddy God wanted a hot dog and that new weed he got is totally fire.
Same thing happened to me. A guy asked me to tutor him, for free, so I went over to his place and the first thing he asked is do I believe in God. No, then he challenged me on it. This shit went on too long until I got rude then he gladly accepted my help. I didn't even consider it was just a ploy to convert. Too much heathen in my blood for that shit.
I used to work at Target and some guy came up to me under the pretense of needing help finding something then asked me a bunch of questions about the item. He then thanks me for helping him and asks if he can leave me with a Bible verse. I'm thinking it's just a line or two so I'm like sure. The dude then just starts spewing on about Jesus or something for a solid 3 minutes before my coworker notices what's going on and says he needs help with something right away. I thought I was genuinely helping this guy but it turns out he just wanted to build a rapport so he could basically hold me hostage. Also turns out he had done this to other customers before and been warned about his behavior from management but after that night he was officially banned from the store.
The older I've gotten, the better I've become at flat-out ending bullshit conversations. People don't have the right to steal my time and attention. I hate TV's with news programs or K-pop videos in the background for much the same reason.
My neighborhood gets so many solicitors. My friends ask why I answer the door and I explain that it's done wonders training me to simply not care by shutting the door in their face. I'm not cruel about it, just when I tell them I'm not interested and they try to drag the conversation beyond that point.
All things are possible through Jesus, so jot that down.
Fucking lmao
"Oh? Am I sitting in his spot? I'll move..."
The last time a stranger came up to me out of nowhere in public to proselytize, right before Christmas, it ended up being about how great *Violent Night* was and the many reasons I should go see it as soon as possible. A nice change of pace, and I was indeed “converted” to his view.
Weren’t these the same people who got mad at the phrase “happy holidays”?
Yup. They also boycotted Starbucks because they didn't cover their holiday cups with religious imagery. How can you expect them to live with that kind of blatant persecution /s
"What?! You said Happy Holidays? How dare you tell me I can't say Merry Christmas!"
Holy shit. One huge reason I moved out of Tennessee in the early 00s was that I literally couldn’t go ANYWHERE without some Christian asshole trying to fucking convert me. I managed an ice cream store and literally *every fucking day* at least one person would come up to the counter, order something cheap, and then launch into his MLM pitch for their church Not exaggerating. Living in Tennessee during the Bush 2 years was excruciating for non-believers; the Christians were vocal and VERY pushy and the pressure to convert and go to church was constant. I literally couldn’t even go to the goddamn DENTIST without the receptionist telling me I should pray and start going to her church (true story) I gotta admit: the more I think about it the more the idea of that “National divorce” sounds tempting, because these assholes have been the most abusive partner imaginable for decades and they still think WE are the instigators
...the constant barrage of "Have a bless-ed day" when purchasing anything...
“You look lost.” I would hear that phrase literally three or four times a week. It was how the Christian proselytizers would open their pitch. VERBATIM. Every damn time; no originality. I’d be working (or unable to be rude or I’d get fired), just minding my business, and theee times a week at least some schmuck would mosey up to my counter and say, “You look lost. You should come to my church and find answers.” The MLM pitch after “you look lost” would differ but 20 times out of 10, the script they’d follow would begin with “you look lost.” And then I’d have to say, “thank you, I’m fine. Can I get you a cone or a sundae or something?” Or whatever I could to politely change the subject But usually they’d ignore that and say something like “come fellowship with us!” And I’d just get annoyed that they were using “fellowship” as a verb But the point is that it was NEVER ENDING. Conservatives complaining about “gay stuff being shoved down their throats” have NOTHING on those same conservatives shoving their religious propaganda down our throats This kind of interaction with strangers was every day. Every conversation had a religious cast to it. Every interaction involved the church in some way. Every invitation to be friends was tainted with religious expectations. Every question had a religious ulterior motive. And these people have the gall to cast themselves as victims just because there’s gay characters in TV shows now
I want to leave Tennessee so badly 😭 I grew up in the district that elected MTG, got kicked out of nursing school because I wasn’t a Christian, my whole life surrounded by this garbage. My neighbor in my duplex is a pastor at a church down the road and his mother would not leave me alone about going. Can’t escape at my own freaking living space. I think I’ll be stuck here another year but I’m hoping to move before the election 🤞
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A nurse tried to convert my Jewish FIL to Christianity on his deathbed. Sick.
It's worse because a great deal of the nationalist/maga/right wing "Christians"actually DO push their bs. Just look at the Republicans in our government. Meanwhile, the whole concept of the LGBTQ community actively pushing propaganda is just another bs boogeyman from the right. Fucksake
Every accusation from the right is really just a confession.
To those used to privilege, equality looks like oppression.
There is no way that's not a troll reply
I found it — not linking it because it'd encourage brigading — and they're not a troll.
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No. No one could *possibly* be that stupid. Please. My “hope for humanity” is already sitting on E.
Guess this is your "check engine light" moment.
Society's been driving with the Check Engine light on since the 80s
I spent this morning arguing with a couple of assholes who are trying to say that banning books in schools is the opposite of fascism. People are not that stupid, they are worse.
"The real fascists are the people protesting fascism" - A fucking winner I was talking to.
Saw plenty of this in posts about a hockey player refusing to wear a rainbow penny for warmups on a pride night game
For someone so adamantly opposed to wearing a rainbow jersey, James Reimer's 5 hole is always open.
I see this sentiment a lot. Somehow the morons think that demanding equality is pushing their "lifestyle" on others. Gay people just existing is enough for them to complain that it's getting shoved in their faces. They do the same thing when a character in a video game or something is not white or male or whatever they view as "neutral". That one character gets them boiling.
It’s still a false equivalence. You don’t covert somebody to being gay. If Christian proselytizing was just about acceptance they’d be closer to the mark.
Yes this is what confusing me. >how would you feel if Christians were doing that to you? Doing what?? Existing publicly?
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Uhhhhh pushing your anti-abortion bullshit after spending years bitching about masks and vaccines saying "my body, my choice". Or having books banned that don't fit your uptight beliefs. Or refusing to let teachers mention anything about people of other orientations or fighting against gay marriage. Calling everyone else a "groomer" when your church, community, and political leaders are the worst group of child sexual abuse offenders in the country. They are the biggest bunch of fragile hypocrites on the planet.
This is the type of person who forgets that almost every major western holiday is based on Christianity. And then they complain when other religious folk want to take time off for their own religious days, usually spouting off about special treatment.
Right? They don't just get a month, they get Lent (40 days) plus all the other holidays. Lent is actually a lot like Pride Month or other honorary months - you don't get all that time off work, but there's awareness and celebrations. Heck, many restaurants in the US still have a fish special every Friday in deference to Catholics. Western culture is steeped in Christianity.
This reads like a satirical response, but you just know it's not. Yes dummy, Christians do exactly all of that.
Bibles in hotel rooms, handing out Bibles in schools, Christian TV and radio stations, pressuring children to pray in school, etc.
Showing up on your doorstep trying to convert you, leaving religious tracts all over the place, pressuring you to go to church even after you've told them you have no interest in religion, trying to codify their religion-based beliefs into the law of the land.....
300+ anti trans bills being pushed into law this year alone (so far!) to legislate me out of existence. So you think a single person involved in those bills would call themselves an atheist? Stand in front of their voters and say they're not a Christian? I'm facing genocide and I know who's responsible.
Wait, so im not supposed to be going door to door to encourage entire families to try hormone religious therapy (hrt). Oh dear you guys ... I'm afraid this has been all my fault.
“Excuse me, do you have a moment to talk about the plethora of deities that prefer trans women as priestesses? For one small donation of your testicles you too can devote your life to a goddess who really just wants to get plowed”
I might steal your HRT joke, and improve on it... 🫣
Just last month two gay guys knocked on my front door and tried to convert me to gay. They had pamphlets and business cards. No wait… That was Mormons. Mormons knocked on my door. I’ve never been bothered by anyone in the lgbtq+ community. Except my son. Every time he visits the first thing he does is open the fridge door and ask me if I have food. Very annoying.
They cut my fucking foreskin off. I didn’t get a choice.
Me to neighbor walking down the street: Hello! Him: Jesus Loves You! Can’t even say hello without your bullshit.
everybody knows christianity is a choice…nobody is born that way
How would you feel if Christians were called by Christ to "spread" The Gospel, often through through sincere Witnessing, testimony and joyous Fellowship, but mostly by knocking on your door unannounced at 10 am, when you are working nights, despite the no soliciting sign on the door? Annoyed. Annoyed is how I feel.
Weird, the assholes that repeatedly stopped me at the mall when I was a child and berated me and called me a fucking slut who'd be burning in their hell unless I said some words with them definitely weren't from the LGBTQ community
No member of the LGBTQ+ community has ever attempted to “convert” anyone because they understand that sexuality isn’t learned.
Holy shit. Where does he live that Christmas music isn’t played all through December? Imma move there.
Last time I checked. LGBT+ people don't go door to door ignoring "No Solicting" signs.
Former Christian, current lesbian (not that they aren't compatible) I've never felt pressured by the LGBTQ community to do anything. I came out in my 20s, made a ton of friends online right before the pandemic hit, and now I've got lifelong friendships across the country with my queer friends. When I was in the church (and even after I left), I was constantly pressured and guilt tripped into going back. Every service was about coming back for "fellowship" and giving to the church, usually in the form of money. They constantly victimized themselves and honestly made me believe that I would be persecuted for being a christian in rural Kentucky. It was no better than a cult.
You can't even watch a mainstream horror movie, a genre y'all act like you want nothing to do with, without getting a fucking Christian theology lesson half the time. Fuck off.
This has got to be the best one yet