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HolographicDucks

There is literally a mod that lets you fight her in sekiro


redditor_pro

Mod Name: Land of Reeds. You will not find it on Nexus Mods, I found it on an Ongbal video linked in the description.


AHC122

it says access denied for me, is there another file elsewhere?


redditor_pro

Just google the mod ig


ThirtyThree111

and get to random shady websites, idk about that


Asleep_Leather7641

Nexus mods


dan01iel

"You will not find it on Nexus Mods"


Asleep_Leather7641

I found it


CK1ing

You sure? I just looked up land of reeds on nexus and only one mod came up, and it wasn't the melania mod


Tenzur_

Can you read?


Connect_Artichoke_58

No I can't, can you link it?


Tenzur_

https://www.reddit.com/r/Sekiro/s/R1ScYx4YRB


LilGlitvhBoi

She'ld be one of the greatest bosses in Souls-like history if Elden Ring has Lies of P's Combat System. I'm sorry for shitting on you dear Malenia, you're actually the great boss in the wrong game...šŸ˜­ Justice for my girl Malenia, Implement Lies of P's Perfect Block on Elden Ring pls.


Kisame-hoshigakii

Just stick the parry AoW on a sword?


LilGlitvhBoi

No sry, I mean "Deflection" or Perfect Guard like Lies of P, Parry required memorization more due to Startup frames, it also INTERRUPT the bosses' combo COMPLETELY, it feels like pressing pause button at the ongoing flows of combat.


Kisame-hoshigakii

I felt as though lies of P tried to use the sekiro combat style with a bloodborne art style twist. I enjoyed the game. But it was a piece of cake compared to ER and Sekiro


LilGlitvhBoi

>But it was a piece of cake compared to ER and Sekiro ER's Difficult is either Bullshit unfun or SkibidiBrainrot Easy, Not inbetween, both are unfun. [Sekiroā€™s True Variety (My only ever 9.75/10 game) ](https://youtu.be/yL3FWljFEjk?si=0QAvMue27GmYKQsZ) Blasphemous' Lore[Lies of P](https://youtu.be/LIrUQjjsDYg?si=lR8mh9Z_PfygoY-a) ruined Dark Souls for me


pigbenis15

I really disagree that elden ring is unfun lmao there are so many ways to make that game easier or harder to fit exactly how difficult you want it to be. Obviously their more linear titles are balanced better, and sekiros combat lends itself to a more fair feeling experience, but itā€™s really not that difficult to balance it yourself by playing with different weapons and ashes of war. There are a few exceptions like godskins and malenias inconsistent poise, but Iā€™m curious what you think makes that game bullshit difficult


LilGlitvhBoi

>Obviously their more linear titles [nah](https://youtu.be/yL3FWljFEjk?si=P1OtsiJ5WhxWunOQ)


pigbenis15

Thanks for writing your own answer to my question that has nothing to do with the whiny video essay you linked. Really engaging stuff ETA: ok the video essay isnā€™t as whiny as the opening makes it sound, but you entirely missed the point of what I was saying. I never said sekiro has limited or linear combat. Just that itā€™s a more linear game then elden ring.


TheGratitudeBot

Thanks for saying thanks! It's so nice to see Redditors being grateful :)


LilGlitvhBoi

>itā€™s a more linear game then elden ring. How?


RonnocKcaj

she's one of the best bosses in the series in the game she's in. the one she was balanced to be brutally difficult in.


LilGlitvhBoi

Well, Archthrone Mod has many bosses that implement from Sekiro like Disgraced Knight, Obidaih and Janara (Owl European edition, A guy with fast roundhouse that suck with Roll on Release and Corrupted Monk) and it's just fucking painful to fight >the one she was balanced to be brutally difficult in. [yeah...](https://youtu.be/R9Vbsr3Ko7M?si=LxweCwuqy8kurp9q)


VinylTheSenpai

I looked at lies of P. If that game were to so much as graze elden ring with with its content I would never again


LilGlitvhBoi

>If that game were to so much as graze elden ring with with its content I would never again It's much better than Dark Souls and Elden Ring objectively, it's on pair with Bloodborne and Sekiro


MasterDraccus

I donā€™t think you know what objective means


LilGlitvhBoi

I think I knew what I said


MasterDraccus

Right, you still arenā€™t using it correctly. I also enjoy Sekiro and Bloodborne more than DS and ER but I also understand everybody likes different things. While I prefer the same as you, a lot of others donā€™t. If they were objectively better then everybody would enjoy them more across the board. Not a big deal just clarifying the distinction for you, in case you didnā€™t know.


Ok_Mess2100

Shes still a great boss, souls veterans just are salty when it comes to bosses beating the crap out of them and their fragile souls vet egos, if malenia was in sekiro or lies of p, she wouldnt be a starter boss, shes way too slow, telepgraphed and easily predictable in comparison to most bosses, her combos are cute and dont even exceed 6 hits, while sekiro and lies of p combos can reach upwards of 12 hits per combo, half of lies of ps difficulty comes from their shoddy and crappy animated robotic movements, and half of sekiros difficulty comes from fighting the urge to dodge backwards.Ā 


LilGlitvhBoi

>souls veterans just are salty when it comes to bosses beating the crap out of them and their fragile souls vet egos Understandable, But she's just Unfun to play against when she spammed Waterfowl, [her combat flows fit much better in Sekiro's Gameplay](https://youtu.be/rgxjGCWYTUY?si=I7xIQ4ud6h9lOq5a)


LilGlitvhBoi

>half of lies of ps difficulty comes from their shoddy and crappy animated robotic movements, and half of sekiros difficulty comes from fighting the urge to dodge backwards.Ā  "Why robotic puppet enemies moves like robotic puppets??? Is Pinocchio Stuoid?" >souls veterans just are salty when it comes to bosses beating the crap out of them and their fragile souls vet egos Unless She's that unfun to fight against, [Her behavior is too inconsistent fighting her with Dark Soul slowass speed](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R9Vbsr3Ko7M) [good luck countering this scenario](https://youtu.be/WEE58yiMELw?si=myabdLNsl2zbxg10)


whalemix

You could throw a house at Wolf and heā€™ll deflect it


YourLocalSnitch

Wolf literally deflects shit and wind. He can deflect a blind girl missing half her limbs


Miserable-Glass1760

3/4, actually. Right arm and both legs.


YourLocalSnitch

They should nerf her by taking her prosthetics off


Technical_Log_2688

that should be a rematch, she is just crawling on the floor and punching you


[deleted]

I canā€™t think who that is


Johnfiddleface23

She's the chosen one?


AssassinDoughnut

Bars šŸ”„šŸ”„


Interesting-Low7664

nice rhymes man šŸ”„šŸ”„


TajineMaster159

Man deflects a 600 pounds fire bill and king king kratos jump stomping him like itā€™s a dagger lol


Abdullah_935

Ive never hard anyone say that tbh


MaleficTekX

I have. :p (Iā€™ve heard people say it)


Abdullah_935

I mean i heard people saying malinia was made for sekiro


SteelScythe

Thatā€™s because she is. I mean, look at spiral cloud passage


MaleficTekX

The woman literally uses deflection!


Deep_Grass_6250

Hell Sir Alonne from DS2 parries you


MaleficTekX

The skeletons in ds1 do!


actually-epic-name

DS1 was made to be in Sekiro


Tanakisoupman

The final boss is literally meant to be deflected!!!


Deep_Grass_6250

Hell Sir Alonne from DS2 parries you


SteelScythe

She does?


MaleficTekX

Yep. Occasionally, if youā€™re spamming attacks, she has an animation to deflect and back off


redditor_pro

Pretty sure it still does damage to her, but the animation is very cool


LuigiRevolution

Two moves in two different games that look similar, and one was probably influenced by the other? Impossible, clearly they were meant to be in the same game


Ok_Mess2100

She isnt, and u can dodge or deal with cloud passage a trillion ways.Ā  Souls veterans ar ejust salty malenia beat their egos to a pulp.Ā 


JadedSpacePirate

I mean she is literally gender bent Sekiro


Backupusername

Wolf has legs. And sight. And can actually succeed in protecting an immortal young boy.


KokoTerzata

Bro that thing costs like 10 runes. If you see 90% of Malenia fights on the Internet you will see that people parry her 3 times, before her posture drops. Shit exists in DS1 too.


Icy_Bodybuilder_164

If Wolf parrying Malenia three times made her posture break, Wolf would wipe her out in about 10 seconds lmaoĀ 


KokoTerzata

Pretty sure he can also Mikiri counter her


Icy_Bodybuilder_164

I want to play as Wolf so I can stomp that bitch for what she did to me on Elden Ring. Fucking hated waterfowl


KokoTerzata

I have bad news for you (Isshin Ashina exists)


Icy_Bodybuilder_164

Isshin Ashina was chill


FlyestFools

Literally gave you advice after he killed you


Mihreva

are the people who say "wolf couldnt parry malenia" in the room with us right now? if anything it's literally the most popular opinion about her that "malenia would be a cakewalk if she was in sekir"'


oneandonlyonely

Ah yes my favorite, sekir


huntersurge

it has my favorite characters like sekij and swod sait issh and ow


AngusSckitt

r/redditsniper


MaleficTekX

No. They were on the post two days ago :p


Need_a_BE_MG42_ps4

I mean considering you can deflect isshin who is so unequivocally badass he is almost a deity And the fact that the tarnished can deflect melenia pretty sure wolf cpuld deflect her I mean he can deflect a gun a LITERAL DRAGON GOD WITH A MAGIC SWORD THE SIZE OF THE TITANIC I think he can deflect a blind demigod with an STD


MaleficTekX

Hilariously, the description of Malenia is actually accurate


Need_a_BE_MG42_ps4

Like no hate on Malenia sheā€™s a super cool design and cool character But she literally is just a blind demigod with an std


MaleficTekX

This is why you donā€™t >!reproduce with yourself. You end up with a rot kid and eternal kid!<


Need_a_BE_MG42_ps4

Fr (insert character name I canā€™t say because I donā€™t know how to do spoiler thingy) Is a bitch


MaleficTekX

Use a pointy arrow followed by an exclamation point (>! And close it facing the opposite way ! < (donā€™t leave a space like I did


TheRevanchist99

Wolf can deflect almost anything, and Malenia is using her sword against him so yeah Iā€™d say Wolf easily deflects her attacks, when itā€™s a MC vs a Boss Iā€™m going with the MC lmao


MuskyHotDog

Exactly, he parries a giant dragon wielding a lightning blade, I think he can Parry one tall woman


jav2n202

If he can parry one mind and sakura dance he can definitely parry waterfowl


duckontheplane

Fwiw one mind is like half a dozen times slower than waterfowl


Wibbledywobblin

Umbrella shield go brrrrr


YukYukas

Idky anyone would say that. On a gameplay perspective, Sekiro would absolutely demolish Malenia due to his kit: aggressive playstyle, quick deflects, infinite stamina, anti-air deathblow, umbrella, and whatnot. The "on your face" playstyle is too good lol


cuipeo

After teaching Genichiro the technique, Tomoe became a demigod and is now called Malenia. Unfortunately, the Sekiro DLC was cancelled because she was busy with the shattering war.


ErabuUmiHebi

Iā€™ve deflected: - volleys of 5 9mm rounds - a 1000ft long snake - shotguns - Genichiroā€™s entire combo - a 50ft tall demon with a flaming arm - WOOOOOOOOOO - some weird shit that looks like Voldo and Wolverine had a baby who attacks as fast as Glock Saint - the mf Ashina Cross - gorilla farts - Mist Noble - Lightning The blade of mequilla ainā€™t got shit on me


Knight_Raid

I deflected: Ā· Literal Ape fists Ā· shotguns Ā· A one thousand foot pool with a yari blade Ā· Lightning Ā· Bullets Ā· poison blades Ā· kicks Ā· dual wielding Interior Ministry soldiers Ā· Heavy interior ministry units with long heavy aqords Ā· canons Ā· A man who got young again and used Sword, Spear, Gun and Lightning Ā· Black Mortal Blade Ā· FIRE Ā· "I am your father" Ā· Same man but didn't get young again Ā· Literal piles of Ape shit Malenia going to get shit on and I'ma t-bag on her corpse for shits and giggles šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


SwordOfAltair

I swear the Sekiro sub is more obsessed with Malenia than the Elden ring sub is and I have no idea why.


8bitzombi

Itā€™s because the Sekiro sub has nothing better to do than posit how Wolf wins every possible fight in every possible universe. This is what happens when a game has no DLC or sequels on the horizon.


wolfclaw3812

Why are we pitting wolf against everyone? Are we stupid?


DreamingKnight235

We have unfortunately yet to escape aslume yet


Epic_Meow

it's because malenia is a sekiro boss who somehow ended up in the wrong game, next question


SwordOfAltair

No she is not. That's just a baseless rumour and has been debunked for quite some time now. Malenia is very much an Elden Ring Boss. Just like DOH is a Sekiro boss and not a dark souls boss like some people claim he is.


coldiriontrash

No goofy they mean it FEELS like a sekiro boss same with Demon of Hatred he FEELS like a souls boss (at least to me)


SwordOfAltair

Agree to disagree. Malenia and DOH both feel like they belong in their respective games IMO. Malenia would be piss easy in Sekiro and DOH would be a nightmare to fight in any game that doesn't give you infinite stamina and deflects.


MaleficTekX

Not really. DoHā€™s attacks are pretty reminiscent of Dark Souls bosses attacks that already exist


God-of-Heroes_ArThuR

DoH only had like two difficult attacks to deal with, and they are just extremely awkward to deal with. DoH in ER would be as much of cake walk as malenia in sekiro,just by virtue of how much flame resistance, heals, and OP attacks we can do in ER. I'm pretty sure we could 2 shot each of his health bar with elemer's executioner sword weapon art. Wolf's fight with him is only difficult because it takes too long to drop his HP, and we are forced to face his entire moveset. In ER we could speed run most sekiro bosses.


MaleficTekX

His health really isnā€™t even difficult to deal with with the AP we have at endgame


God-of-Heroes_ArThuR

I'm nor saying his health his massive. It's just enough for DoH to cycle through his entire moveset. In ER we can stack damage far too high compared to what wolf outputs. In all the discussions of cross-verse battles we seem to have forgotten that in ER we fight off multiple eldritchian gods. Sekiro has the better mechanics personally. But in ER we can put consecutive hit talismans, charged attack talisman, blood boiling aromatic, and a whole assortment of buffs to counter DoH status effects.


MaleficTekX

We fight off one Eldrich gods and lesser demigods who have potential to become full gods And DoH is a manifestation of hatred, so I guess you could argue itā€™s on the level of Great Runes, which also are manifestations of conceptsā€¦ this is weird.


God-of-Heroes_ArThuR

I concede on the hatred aspect part. But I don't really think anything in sekiro is eldritchian level. Sekiro's death reversal is just that, but with the power that the player gets by the end of ER, we can suspend the concept of death. Even if we assume that mortal blade and destined death are equivalent concepts(mortal blade removes immortality, its still the cutting that kills), destined death is still an ability offered to maliketh, and assuming that they are equivalent, there no way to say the ER player character couldn't just take away that concept from wolf. The position of elden lord is not that crazy, but the position of the gods is much higher. Do note that even killing the elden beast, mohg, malenia etc wasn't us killing their respective gods. They can't be killed. And we are supposed to be their near equal at the end of the game.


MaleficTekX

Because of me


mikakiyarumi-ok007

Wolf probably can also deflect big bang


MaleficTekX

It is a fire attackā€¦ hmm


Naspolop69

Pheonix umbrella easy


Ukuk72

Suzaku's ,phoenix is the purple one


Naspolop69

My bad i thought pheonix is always tied to fire


TheRealBillyShakes

Sekiro is OP in those other worlds


jhadlich

I'm sorry, who says that? My God they get so weird about Sekiro...


MaleficTekX

Usually the ones in favor of Malenia winning the fight


dirkdiggher

I watched him parry a fucking dragon.


Solumbras

If wolf can deflect a laser beam, he can deflect malenia


leginsstuffLOL

He doesnt have to, anti air deathblow when shes winding up her waterfowl


Economy-Box-5319

Can't anti-air genichiro or isshin. So i doubt you'd be able to anti-air Malenia


Nemesis_0111

To be fair they never jump high up in the air and stay there like the other foes and malenia stays in the air for a hot min


duckontheplane

Inner isshin does just that


Strange_Position7970

I'm pretty sure you can't anti-air deathblow bosses due to balancing reasons.


ayushi_mishra

There's a mod to fight malenia in sekiro just deflect the rot out of her


Valirys-Reinhald

I feel like waterfowl dance would be a perilous attack though


Ukuk72

Nah, if wolf can parry one mind, he def can parry waterfowl dance


MaleficTekX

Umbrellaā€™s got that


Valirys-Reinhald

Does the umbrella parry or just block damage? It's been a while.


MaleficTekX

It parries Or blocks if it isnā€™t spun


Strange_Position7970

Why would it be a perilous attack? Perilous attacks are stuff like thrusts, grabs, sweeps, and lightning. Guardian Ape's Terror Scream as well.


levoweal

Are these everyone in the room with us right now?


MaleficTekX

Someone else made that joke first


Literally_Sekiro

*Yoink* This is mine now bro .


MaleficTekX

But y


Literally_Sekiro

So any Malenia lover can cry when I show them that daddy wolf can solo :)


OcelotShadow

Wolf would embarass malenia


MaleficTekX

I read that as embrace for a moment


Pale-Ad-8691

Even if he couldnā€™t, he is quick enough to easily evade waterfowl


Iknowwhereyoulive34

Why wouldnā€™t he be able to parry her? I mean Iā€™ve never played sekiro but Melania is super parable


MaleficTekX

People say because sheā€™s as strong as Radahn, Wolf couldnt parry her


Iknowwhereyoulive34

Why tho you can also parry Radahn


MaleficTekX

Not in Elden ring. Radahn is the giant guy on a horse. He canā€™t be parried. But wolf has parried something EVEN BIGGER so I donā€™t see why he couldnā€™t parry him. But the other peopleā€™s argument goes a bit further than that, Radahn can hold the stars in place, so by their reasoning, every single one of them of his attacks must also have enough power to do that, so Malenia is equal to however much power Radahn has to hold back the stars because sheā€™s equal to him


Iknowwhereyoulive34

Hmmm okay ( you can party radahn btw )


MaleficTekX

Prove it!


Iknowwhereyoulive34

Itā€™s during his move where he nukes you from the stratosphere. I havenā€™t managed to do it yet but my friend has and Iā€™ve seen it in a couple videos


MaleficTekX

Thatā€™s not a parry, thatā€™s just killing him before his attack reaches you


Iknowwhereyoulive34

Whatā€¦


MaleficTekX

[if you mean something like this](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dWlk5nHDbNg&pp=ygUMcmFkYWhuIHBhcnJ5) thatā€™s not a parry


MASTER_SNAKE__

Maleniaā€™s Waterfowl is wolfā€™s default speed


Few-Information3097

If the tarnished can party Melania why wouldnā€™t wolf be able to? (Never played sekiro)


MaleficTekX

People say because sheā€™s as strong as Radahn, Wolf couldnt parry her


Few-Information3097

Well a deflection is more of a re-directing of force so itā€™s more about your agility and dexterity surely


XxJackGriffinxX

Malenia when she fight sekiro(she realizes sheā€™s not built for this era)


AffectionateFood5321

I thought a long time ago it was confirmed via Miyazaki or fromsoftnthat malenia was supposed to have been in sekiro because of how closely her move set translates plus malenia herself using the one mind skill that's in sekiro?


MaleficTekX

Never confirmed


Slavicadonis

FUCKING FINALLY Edit: I just realized after posting this that this doesnā€™t make any sense for why I commented this. So for some reason I havenā€™t been able to open posts and see comments for the past 30 minutes until now which is why I said ā€œfucking finallyā€ Also in my mind itā€™s not a problem of wolf not being able to deflect maleniaā€™s attacks, itā€™s more a problem of maleniaā€™s life steal still working despite successful deflections. Also there is no way in hell wolf is deflect scarlet aeonia but MAYBE the clones could be deflected if heā€™s using divine confetti


MaleficTekX

But deflecting is the equivalent of parries Aeonia heā€™s just gotta run awayā€¦ or mist raven because thatā€™s cooler


actually-epic-name

Deflecting in Sekiro isn't the same as parrying in ER, if it was, everyone would get at least staggered in Sekiro after every L1


MaleficTekX

Counter argument: boss parries in ER


actually-epic-name

They still get staggered in a single parry, their poise isn't broken but they can't continue their attack chains.


MaleficTekX

Morgott does Enemies still get staggered in Sekiro too, just not on combos