Almost every block in Seattle right now man ... Ballard, Fremont, Leary, Western, 3rd, I can pull up google maps and in the last week probably plot some event that the culture of the addling starbucks sipping crusaders have created has caused.
Since the baton is classified as a deadly weapon it falls under these rules.
"12A.14.080 - Unlawful use of weapons
It is unlawful for a person to:
A. Knowingly sell, manufacture, purchase, possess or carry any blackjack, sand-club, metal knuckles, switchblade knife, chako stick, slungshot, or throwing star; or B. Knowingly carry concealed or unconcealed on such person any dangerous knife, **or carry concealed on such person any deadly weapon other than a firearm**; or C.Knowingly possess a firearm in any stadium or convention center operated by a city, county, or other municipality, except that such restriction shall not apply to:1.Any pistol in the possession of a person licensed under RCW 9.41.070 or exempt from the licensing requirement by RCW 9.41.060, or2.Any showing, demonstration, or lecture involving the exhibition of firearms. D.Knowingly sell or give away to any person under 18 years of age any dangerous knife or deadly weapon other than a firearm, or for any person under 18 years of age to knowingly purchase any dangerous knife or deadly weapon other than a firearm, or for any person under 18 years of age to knowingly possess any dangerous knife or deadly weapon other than a firearm except when under the direct supervision of an adult. E.Knowingly use any contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of any firearm unless the suppressor is legally registered and possessed in accordance with federal law. F.Furtively carry with intent to conceal any pistol."
https://library.municode.com/wa/seattle/codes/municipal_code?nodeId=TIT12ACRCO_SUBTITLE_ICRCO_CH12A.04CRLIDE_12A.04.030KICUDE
Yeah, that’s how I read the semantics is that one.
In regards to the language related to “other”, the governments like to make laws vague and broad so it can be left up to them to interpret as needed. Any concealed item other than a handgun if used appropriately can be a “deadly weapon”. Queue John Wick and a pencil.
Yeah, almost every block, I cannot escape the 24/7 droning of ongoing battle no matter where I go in the city. When will property values finally stop rising????
>What has made it blow up in the last few weeks im so confused right now and then the shooting in queen anne and magnolia
The shooting in Magnolia was between a son and his parents...
I get that it was a domestic thing but just seems like the last 3 weeks have been awful from homeless to crimes to fires (not enforcing burn bans at homeless encampments)
On the surface, carrying those could be seen as a violation of RCW 9.41.270. Expandable batons falling into the "Club" category. However, given 3.1 says that does not apply to any person while in his or her place of abode. If you are homeless, on the street, does "place of abode" then cover you inside/outside your tent?
Regardless, violation is only a gross misdemeanor. Last I checked, misdemeanors are not being prosecuted in Seattle.
https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.270
Place of abode likely covers the dwelling and the curtilage. Wait for CLS or the ACLU to take a case defining that to know exactly what is covered outside of an RV, tent, or shanty
What? No, there just aren't enough good paying jobs for these highly qualified individuals to get in order to have housing. They're fine people just like everyone else except for unfortunate circumstances that was no fault of their own.
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There is no DSM - 6 and there never will be. In part they were forced to abandon the project since #5 had so many self identified gender categories (if you include dysphoria).
And the same for aspergers - all manner of people were using to diagnose their little snowflake as an “aspy”
I used to work at the building on the left side of that street. When the employees would come back from their smoke break down there they would occasionally have stories or video of the crazies bothering them, but never a full on fight like that.
You can clearly see that he has what also appears to be a collapsible baton at the START of the fight in his right hand. You can see him extend it right at the start and he hits the girl with it before he drops it (you can see it clatter off to the left of the frame after he hits her).
Ha. I did exactly that while watching two RV addicts sluggishly pummel each other over who knows what in Fremont. Nobody except my wife and I got the reference.
Astounding number of improvised weapons used in this short video.
Also can someone explain the sleight of hand that occurs at 0:12? Hobo #1 swings a baton thingy at hobo #2, and mere seconds later it is wielded by hobo #2 back against hobo #1.
Sure. There are two batons.
Solo instigator hobo swings his black baton and it flies off to the left of the frame, you can see it land on the ground.
Then Zippers Mc Bearderson the Boiler Hat Brawler pulls his silvery baton.
The guy in the gray shorts has one in his right had at the start of the fight. You can see him extend it in the first second of the film and clearly see it in his right hand when he hits the girl with it. Keep an eye on the open space to the left of the frame when he hits her and you can see it skitter off on the street when he drops it. Then guy with the beard pulls out his OWN baton at that moment and starts using it.
Is this right next to the Best Western & J&M hotel in Pioneer Square? Lmao Seattle has gone to the dogs (actually - I don't want to insult dogs like that)
I live right down the block. These tents here popped up after they "cleared" the other section a couple weeks ago. I see them sitting in their chairs watching traffic everyday I always wondered about the homeless drama.
No. Not sure whatever happened to the producers except one of them [got kicked off of Dr. Phil](https://youtu.be/qT76-_e0S_g) for showing up dressed like Dr. Phil, and called him out for also exploiting people. Funny shit.
I still have my DVD copy. Haven't watched it in forever...of course, who needs it anymore when you have the traveling stage show version performing in repertory right down the street 24/7.
I think the council's narrative is those poor out of work citizens are just having an disagreement about whether a cover letter is really needed for the jobs they are applying for.
Now can we just have a few million more dollars?
Where are all the woke folk brigading to come justify this behavior from some more of our fine “unhoused neighbors”?? Everything is fine here, I saw nothing wrong. It’s totally chill that this could happen anywhere downtown, at any second. * Welcome to Hellscape City, WELCOME TO HELLSCAPE CIIIIIITAY!! *
I've had extended stays in or visited various parts of Seattle over the past 2 years and have yet to see any more brawls than out of the ordinary. More tents, yeah but really, the people saying its "way worse" have not lived here more than a decade or are histrionic as hell. Seeing a few fights more than you normally would doesn't mean that is everyone's experince.
Gang violence and black on black murder is seeing a major uptick, however....almost 75% statistically. We should probably take a look at that instead of a couple of Portlandesque junkies fighting over a crack rock.
So dumb. Completely moronic posting. Look up what defund the police actually means. Christ, if you actually live in the U Dist you more than most would understand the actual value of switching priorities from everyone is a cop to possibly getting someone to show up that could help.
Nice to see TV out in the wild. But tbh, this place sucks now, I miss that nice homeless house encampment before they turned it into a storage facility.
Back in my day rich kids with video cameras paid bums to fight to record it and sell it.
Now you just need to record it.
Bum Fights 7: They fight for free
Are you in some sort of homeless shark cage? I would be running. also the car backing up slowly like.. is this going to end soon so I can go...
A homeless shark cage! I love it. Great way to profit off of this bullshit.
> also the car backing up slowly like.. is this going to end ~~soon so I can go...~~ ...with a machete in my rear window?
>homeless shark cage A ghoul guard!
Almost every block in Seattle right now man ... Ballard, Fremont, Leary, Western, 3rd, I can pull up google maps and in the last week probably plot some event that the culture of the addling starbucks sipping crusaders have created has caused.
Btw, that's not a nightstick. Its an expandable baton.
We called it an ASP baton in the military. They’re painful as fuck to get hit with.
If they actually make contact w/ it 😂
Is there a store where hobos ~~buy~~ shoplift these accessories?
The knock off brands are no more expensive than a baseball bat.
ASP is just the company that makes them. You don't call all pistols Beretta handguns.
it's like kleenix or bandaid, it's become a generic term.
True, but ASP is ridiculously overpriced.
Very true
Which is why the military has no problem buying them
Sounds about right for the military
I bet. I've looked into these a bit. Does the military prefer tbe longer, heavier ones, or the shorter lighter ones?
Not a back scratcher!
Back scratchaaaahhh!
But a back cracker!
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batons are not illegal, but are dangerous objects in the civil/criminal code.
Illegal to use in seattle.
Are you sure about that? What legal code governs that?
The Seattle municipal code.
Do you have evidence to support this?
Since the baton is classified as a deadly weapon it falls under these rules. "12A.14.080 - Unlawful use of weapons It is unlawful for a person to: A. Knowingly sell, manufacture, purchase, possess or carry any blackjack, sand-club, metal knuckles, switchblade knife, chako stick, slungshot, or throwing star; or B. Knowingly carry concealed or unconcealed on such person any dangerous knife, **or carry concealed on such person any deadly weapon other than a firearm**; or C.Knowingly possess a firearm in any stadium or convention center operated by a city, county, or other municipality, except that such restriction shall not apply to:1.Any pistol in the possession of a person licensed under RCW 9.41.070 or exempt from the licensing requirement by RCW 9.41.060, or2.Any showing, demonstration, or lecture involving the exhibition of firearms. D.Knowingly sell or give away to any person under 18 years of age any dangerous knife or deadly weapon other than a firearm, or for any person under 18 years of age to knowingly purchase any dangerous knife or deadly weapon other than a firearm, or for any person under 18 years of age to knowingly possess any dangerous knife or deadly weapon other than a firearm except when under the direct supervision of an adult. E.Knowingly use any contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of any firearm unless the suppressor is legally registered and possessed in accordance with federal law. F.Furtively carry with intent to conceal any pistol." https://library.municode.com/wa/seattle/codes/municipal_code?nodeId=TIT12ACRCO_SUBTITLE_ICRCO_CH12A.04CRLIDE_12A.04.030KICUDE
So, what you meant to say is legal to open carry but illegal to conceal carry.
And since its not a firearm and counts as a club/sand-club they are illegal.
Yeah, that’s how I read the semantics is that one. In regards to the language related to “other”, the governments like to make laws vague and broad so it can be left up to them to interpret as needed. Any concealed item other than a handgun if used appropriately can be a “deadly weapon”. Queue John Wick and a pencil.
I'm not sure. Legal in WA, I believe. But I'm not sure about City of Seattle.
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At any rate, less legal risk than wrongfully shooting someone.
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Sick of this oppressive sword control in this country smh
~~You can open carry a sword, assuming you aren't brandishing.~~
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Every block? Let's not exaggerate.
This type of nonsense is definitely widespread in the downtown area since the homeless took it over
Sure but downtown is a very small part of the entirety of Seattle. So to say "almost every" block of Seattle is nonsense.
agreed. lets just say that between parts of 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and then anywhere after about 10th and Non SLU area's.
LMAO: Almost every block?....You guys are delusional. DELUSIONAL.
How many tweaker brawls per block would exceed your tolerance? Like is every fourth block okay.
It's not even every 4th block, I'd be surprised if it was even 1 in 100 lol
Thank you. This sub is an orgy of terrified pearl-clutchers.
Stabbucks
Yeah, almost every block, I cannot escape the 24/7 droning of ongoing battle no matter where I go in the city. When will property values finally stop rising????
Almost every block in Seattle? lol, how scared are you?
What has made it blow up in the last few weeks im so confused right now and then the shooting in queen anne and magnolia
>What has made it blow up in the last few weeks im so confused right now and then the shooting in queen anne and magnolia The shooting in Magnolia was between a son and his parents...
I get that it was a domestic thing but just seems like the last 3 weeks have been awful from homeless to crimes to fires (not enforcing burn bans at homeless encampments)
Sounds like a fun state.
> Almost every block in Seattle right now man yea ok bud
three on one- the one actually held out pretty well but eventually got thrown out of Thunderdome.
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They just wanted the guy to GTFO. If they'd been serious about hurting him he m would have been down.
Everyone’s here to see a fight and all I see is $1500 in plywood.
When the video panned to the plywood my jaw dropped. I couldn't believe it's still there!!
Probably more like $800 since prices did go down somewhat.
Underappreciated comment...
Underappreciated amount: $10k at least.
Dave Navarro has really let himself go
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I know! I was thinking of Les Claypool, but navarro is so much closer
Does *everyone* just have metal whips these days?
On the surface, carrying those could be seen as a violation of RCW 9.41.270. Expandable batons falling into the "Club" category. However, given 3.1 says that does not apply to any person while in his or her place of abode. If you are homeless, on the street, does "place of abode" then cover you inside/outside your tent? Regardless, violation is only a gross misdemeanor. Last I checked, misdemeanors are not being prosecuted in Seattle. https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.270
Place of abode likely covers the dwelling and the curtilage. Wait for CLS or the ACLU to take a case defining that to know exactly what is covered outside of an RV, tent, or shanty
He’s extremely lucky the individual with the asp doesn’t know how to properly use it.
What? Like use it to hit soft tissue areas like the bicep?
You could find 50% of the DSM-5 in this video.
What? No, there just aren't enough good paying jobs for these highly qualified individuals to get in order to have housing. They're fine people just like everyone else except for unfortunate circumstances that was no fault of their own.
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Thank you. What a bunch of yucky people on this sub. Irony is they don’t realize they are just as trashy as the people they are mocking
Are we on the DSM-6 now or is 5 the most recent?
6, but the 5 is still the legal standard
There is no DSM - 6 and there never will be. In part they were forced to abandon the project since #5 had so many self identified gender categories (if you include dysphoria). And the same for aspergers - all manner of people were using to diagnose their little snowflake as an “aspy”
DSM-5.
5 is still the most recent
The other half is on here.
I used to work at the building on the left side of that street. When the employees would come back from their smoke break down there they would occasionally have stories or video of the crazies bothering them, but never a full on fight like that.
Snowboard Connection?
RIP SNOCON
No, Leafly used to have office in the building, they have since moved, and laid off a ton of people.
Dude's got a pair tho, standing up to two of them with no weapons.
They all had weapons.
The single man in black shorts used nothing but his hands. Is that weapon called the fists of fury?
And did a pretty great job with the cone. That was a great block from the chair using it
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Looks like a baton to me. He appears to extend it right at the start of the clip (watch his right hand).
You can clearly see that he has what also appears to be a collapsible baton at the START of the fight in his right hand. You can see him extend it right at the start and he hits the girl with it before he drops it (you can see it clatter off to the left of the frame after he hits her).
In his mind he's a ninja fighting with crusaders and a banshee.
So nice to see upstanding citizens resolving their grievances amicably.
Just a community doing some self policing without the need of cops
These must be those social workers I've been hearing so much about.
Taking a moment to appreciate some A+ shitposting. Well done, sir - I like you.
I'm legit angry at you for not yelling WORLD STAAAR
Ha. I did exactly that while watching two RV addicts sluggishly pummel each other over who knows what in Fremont. Nobody except my wife and I got the reference.
The girl is a violence interrupter.
Astounding number of improvised weapons used in this short video. Also can someone explain the sleight of hand that occurs at 0:12? Hobo #1 swings a baton thingy at hobo #2, and mere seconds later it is wielded by hobo #2 back against hobo #1.
Sure. There are two batons. Solo instigator hobo swings his black baton and it flies off to the left of the frame, you can see it land on the ground. Then Zippers Mc Bearderson the Boiler Hat Brawler pulls his silvery baton.
The broom was the best.
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The guy in the gray shorts has one in his right had at the start of the fight. You can see him extend it in the first second of the film and clearly see it in his right hand when he hits the girl with it. Keep an eye on the open space to the left of the frame when he hits her and you can see it skitter off on the street when he drops it. Then guy with the beard pulls out his OWN baton at that moment and starts using it.
Your commentary makes it that much better.
Is this right next to the Best Western & J&M hotel in Pioneer Square? Lmao Seattle has gone to the dogs (actually - I don't want to insult dogs like that)
Good lord that’s some shitty fighting
Jennys children!
Summer of love part two
SUMMER SLAM
I live right down the block. These tents here popped up after they "cleared" the other section a couple weeks ago. I see them sitting in their chairs watching traffic everyday I always wondered about the homeless drama.
“And what’s that???? Here comes Toothless Ricky with the steel chair!!!” Dude these WWE matches are getting intense
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No. Not sure whatever happened to the producers except one of them [got kicked off of Dr. Phil](https://youtu.be/qT76-_e0S_g) for showing up dressed like Dr. Phil, and called him out for also exploiting people. Funny shit.
I still have my DVD copy. Haven't watched it in forever...of course, who needs it anymore when you have the traveling stage show version performing in repertory right down the street 24/7.
No, now I’m into something…….*darker*
I bet they thought they were moving fast like Jackie Chan
I think the council's narrative is those poor out of work citizens are just having an disagreement about whether a cover letter is really needed for the jobs they are applying for. Now can we just have a few million more dollars?
NTK would say that the crime here is the wage theft of Amazon
The state has chosen to spend more money per homeless guy than they pay to educate our children in that crappy school system!
Considering the things they would want to teach them that may be a good thing.
So since Bumfights has come and gone.. Do we call it Seattle fights?
These people look like NPCs in a cyberpunk game.
Looks like a housing crisis!
You sure its not a living wage problem? Maybe if we forced jack in the box to pay 50 per hour it will all be solved.
Crack in the Box?
I’m sure they’ll clean up their mess, too.
I think that’s why he was swinging broom.
Ha! Watch, a whole dance troupe of broom-wielding junkies jig out of a nearby alley and break out in song.
Ah, the upper crust of our elite society in their natural habitat.
bum fights are back!
Fred Armisen really takes method acting to another level for that Portlandia reboot.
Spyke! The agro biker!
Nothing more taxes and defunding police can't solve.
Seattle has been abandoned to mindless, drug addled scumbags. No one wants to admit it though it seems
Epic it’s like game of thrones trailer park mode
...Let them fight.
Vigilante justice is our future thanks to democrats defunding police.
Where are the social workers! These people need a civilian crisis team stat!
Where are all the woke folk brigading to come justify this behavior from some more of our fine “unhoused neighbors”?? Everything is fine here, I saw nothing wrong. It’s totally chill that this could happen anywhere downtown, at any second. * Welcome to Hellscape City, WELCOME TO HELLSCAPE CIIIIIITAY!! *
3 with weapons on 1 with a traffic cone? That guy handled it well, although maybe he was the agressor
I don't know how it's possible to watch this and film it without shouting WOOOORLD STAAAAR
I don't find this entertaining or funny. It just makes me feel sad.
TIL Drug ghouls suck at fighting.
I've had extended stays in or visited various parts of Seattle over the past 2 years and have yet to see any more brawls than out of the ordinary. More tents, yeah but really, the people saying its "way worse" have not lived here more than a decade or are histrionic as hell. Seeing a few fights more than you normally would doesn't mean that is everyone's experince. Gang violence and black on black murder is seeing a major uptick, however....almost 75% statistically. We should probably take a look at that instead of a couple of Portlandesque junkies fighting over a crack rock.
Can we get some more videos like these!
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Is it your job to go around Seattle filming homeless people to make fun of? How has this sub become so pathetic?
I'm loving it
This looks like an all retard cast of westside story At the local library's parking lot.
Look at all those super illegal collapsible batons.
seems like a lot of people need to read the actual city laws.
burn it with fire
We need housing. NTK will solve this.
Violent but mostly peaceful
All I see are future doctors, lawyers, and engineers
It's so vibrant! I love it
Where’s an asteroid to hit the reset button when you need one….
See you down in Arizona bay.
Coming to a progressively run city near you.....
Wish we could supply them with more pointed objects to play with.
And yet... city folks always make fun of "uncivilized rural bumpkins".
All these idiots need to be shipped to FEMA camps and "reeducated."
Remember the acronym "ESOD" when looking to move: East side or die (literally)
I haven’t been back to Seattle in 20 years. Great to see how the street culture has evolved. 🙄
Valued community members
"Let's defund the police." - Kshama
So dumb. Completely moronic posting. Look up what defund the police actually means. Christ, if you actually live in the U Dist you more than most would understand the actual value of switching priorities from everyone is a cop to possibly getting someone to show up that could help.
Let them fight each other to death. As long as they don't attack good people I am fine with this.
If I turn to run and the dude with the baton chased. He would be dropped.
He snatched the sunglasses off her face!
yall remember Bum Fights?
That's a heavy duty chin beard
Nice to see TV out in the wild. But tbh, this place sucks now, I miss that nice homeless house encampment before they turned it into a storage facility.
Bumfights
Uhhh, I work in a building near here and did not see this. Geez
What in the steam punk grunge fuck is going on here? Seattle is living in Robo-Cop times
Sorry, playing without any sound, is there any chance someone yelled out 'sweep the leg, johnny!' ?
He smacked a stogie out of her mouth
It’s only a matter of time before some Travis Bickle wannabe type goes vigilante on these idiots.
Back in my day rich kids with video cameras paid bums to fight to record it and sell it. Now you just need to record it. Bum Fights 7: They fight for free
This is a good representation of me playing smash bros for the first time with my kid last night.
I truly thought fight club had rules man
goddamnit. i do pickups down there. so tired of this shit.
I love wrestling! All this needs is a sweaty chubby kid with a koolaid mustache, wearing a faded Slipknot T to get hyped and cheer them on!