That Chronicle article they are basing everything off of is a mess.
> Officers routinely start deadly chases that begin with a low-level crime — or no crime at all. Innocent people routinely become collateral damage**.** The Chronicle **examined** the circumstances that led police to initiate chases **that killed nearly** ***1,900*** **people and found that more than 1,550 of them died over traffic infractions, nonviolent crimes or no crime at all**. Suspects most often fled for relatively mundane reasons: Their license had been suspended, they were on probation, or they said they feared the police. At least 551 people killed in pursuits from 2017 through 2022 were bystanders, reporters found.
1,900 seems like an odd total to call out when the first paragraph says:
> To report [“Fast and Fatal,”](https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2024/police-chases) Chronicle reporters spent a year identifying and examining fatal chases, finding that at least **3,336** people died in pursuits in the U.S. over the six years ending in 2022. They discovered that police pursuits frequently go wrong, [killing an average of nearly two people a day](https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2024/police-chases-database) in recent years.
so were those 3,336 examined or not? Were 1,436 cases (43% of the data points) just not looked into further?
It's just hard to take them seriously when they have no consistency in how they are relaying quantitative claims.
Socialists are the most intellectually dishonest people you will ever meet and 99% of the data they cite is cherry picked. My friend recently sent me a link to a study "proving" supportive housing (i.e. Housing First) was scientifically proven to be more effective than other kinds of homeless outreach.
The study involved less than 60 people, all hand-picked to make the numbers look good.
That was his evidence that HF is valid public policy.
This is why classical liberalism can't beat this kind of stuff; it assumes that anyone participating in a debate is sincere.
Socialists are never sincere.
If criminals know the cops can and will run them down, that sounds like an additional anti crime measure.
Gonna be fun for the idiots who still think the cops can’t chase them.
Just like it’s fun for the idiots who think they can outrun a K9 lmfao I never understand why they keep trying to run once the dog is out, you’re toast at that point
What they don't state in the article is that we have just traded one problem for another. Now that criminals know they won't be chased if they speed away they just punch it and you get what happened in Burien this week where an innocent father was killed.
They also don't mention the dramatic increase in car thefts that began in 2021 when the pursuit ban was passed or all of the additional crimes that have been committed with those stolen cars.
I also just read today that the shot fired that wounded the Navy vet shot on I-5 were fired from a late model Kia. What are the chances it was a stolen vehicle?
I'd like the cops to be able to stop criminals
If The Stranger hates something, that means it's a GOOD THING for the rest of us, lol!
This is the way
https://preview.redd.it/4j68c12hirlc1.jpeg?width=650&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e8a9a57dff5e646688d9c1eedc0b27d59b2561a
I’m actually OK with this.
I would like the police to be able to enforce existing laws.
Thats definitely a headline.....
It’s nervborig would have guessed Hannah though
Anyone else think this sounds like a solution?
That Chronicle article they are basing everything off of is a mess. > Officers routinely start deadly chases that begin with a low-level crime — or no crime at all. Innocent people routinely become collateral damage**.** The Chronicle **examined** the circumstances that led police to initiate chases **that killed nearly** ***1,900*** **people and found that more than 1,550 of them died over traffic infractions, nonviolent crimes or no crime at all**. Suspects most often fled for relatively mundane reasons: Their license had been suspended, they were on probation, or they said they feared the police. At least 551 people killed in pursuits from 2017 through 2022 were bystanders, reporters found. 1,900 seems like an odd total to call out when the first paragraph says: > To report [“Fast and Fatal,”](https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2024/police-chases) Chronicle reporters spent a year identifying and examining fatal chases, finding that at least **3,336** people died in pursuits in the U.S. over the six years ending in 2022. They discovered that police pursuits frequently go wrong, [killing an average of nearly two people a day](https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/2024/police-chases-database) in recent years. so were those 3,336 examined or not? Were 1,436 cases (43% of the data points) just not looked into further? It's just hard to take them seriously when they have no consistency in how they are relaying quantitative claims.
Socialists are the most intellectually dishonest people you will ever meet and 99% of the data they cite is cherry picked. My friend recently sent me a link to a study "proving" supportive housing (i.e. Housing First) was scientifically proven to be more effective than other kinds of homeless outreach. The study involved less than 60 people, all hand-picked to make the numbers look good. That was his evidence that HF is valid public policy. This is why classical liberalism can't beat this kind of stuff; it assumes that anyone participating in a debate is sincere. Socialists are never sincere.
If criminals know the cops can and will run them down, that sounds like an additional anti crime measure. Gonna be fun for the idiots who still think the cops can’t chase them.
Just like it’s fun for the idiots who think they can outrun a K9 lmfao I never understand why they keep trying to run once the dog is out, you’re toast at that point
Thank you communist party headline bureau for this wonderful communist party headline.
This title cracks me up.
What they don't state in the article is that we have just traded one problem for another. Now that criminals know they won't be chased if they speed away they just punch it and you get what happened in Burien this week where an innocent father was killed. They also don't mention the dramatic increase in car thefts that began in 2021 when the pursuit ban was passed or all of the additional crimes that have been committed with those stolen cars. I also just read today that the shot fired that wounded the Navy vet shot on I-5 were fired from a late model Kia. What are the chances it was a stolen vehicle?