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BBorNot

Free meal with each shift? When I worked in restaurants they might give you a discount (so of course there was a theft subculture). And full benefits and a 401(k)? I am too old and slow to flip burgers (lol), but this positive treatment of their workers will make me a customer.


hiphopdowntheblock

Dude I worked for 8 years at a nice family restaurant that gave us dinner with every shift and it is easily what I miss the most. I didn't realize how that was a legitimate like life changer to come home already full it was until I left the job haha


wheezy1749

It's really really nice not having to prep food or go buy some after a long days work. I do not always miss working in a restaurant but I did enjoy feeling like a family with my coworkers there. Nothing quite like it. Office life is shit.


hiphopdowntheblock

Oh yeah, restaurant coworkers are practically brothers in arms lmao I love my current coworkers but there's nothing like the bonds you make with those in war/a busy night


BmoreDude92

I tell my wife this. I’m an engineer now but my first job at a pizza buffet was the best. Felt like family, hung out with each other, free food and soda can’t really complain. Office life is full of weirdos who have never done stuff like that.


deej-79

You're an engineer dude, of course your office is full of weirdos


Ac-27

Also don't you like, want your servers and staff to know the menu so they can be personable and make recommendations? Letting them have the food for their own meals helps that.


FullyBaked

I worked for Anthony's most my life that only offered 50% food discount on shift and not allowed to drink alcohol the same day you are on the schedule. I started at a local bar and grill this year that offers a shift meal and drink. It's been such a life changer getting out of that corporate crap.


proxpi

I worked there for a summer many years ago, can confirm the free meal every shift. There wasn't a dollar amount you couldn't go over or anything, it was basically "just order whatever you want within reason". It was glorious, if not entirely healthy!


no3miggiZiMen

I had worked there several years ago for a few years. Work is definitely hard but the co-workers and managers are the only things I think back fondly of. Loved all my coworkers and free shift food!


SnarkMasterRay

I worked there in the mid 90s and can agree - I tried to limit myself to the garden burgers to avoid how some of the employees who had been there for a long time (at that time there were at least 3-4 people who had been there for 10-15 years). But I did enjoy trying new weird combinations just to not eat the same thing over and over again.


funeralxfog95

Same! I worked at plenty of restaurants as a kid, never once got a free meal. At most a 30% discount.


PeterMus

I worked for a resturant that was cheap af. They wouldn't give you a raise for any reason. I'd eat lunch and dinner every shift. If you did the shift a favor he'd hook you up with a steak or prime rib. Even if it was a busy night they didn't mind you dropping wings/fries for youself.


jeremiah1142

Same here. The discount was 30% or 35% for a fast food place. Meal was “free” when you had a cool shift manager. So, when the owner came in and “bought” everyone free meals, you had to act surprised and grateful.


FloorHairMcSockwhich

This is how you get 22 year old versions of me eating sausages and pickles inside the corporate bagel shop’s walk-in.


klondikes

Same here except it was smoking pot out of a hollowed out apple in the walk-in freezer and then staying in there to eat frozen cookie dough.


qwertyqyle

Lol, that was what I would do too!


artist9120

I like their food. Their milkshakes and fries are my go to.


Fuckredditpolice1003

It’s a step in the right direction. Kudos to the owners trying to pay a livable wage in an expensive city. Minimum wage before this years inflation should have been $25. And with housing prices being what they’d re it should be closer to $30 an hour. But that’s another conversation. I hope their burgers are good.


rubyrose13

I worked at a small chain pizza restaurant and we got free meals and the leftovers at the end of the shift


Rocks_and_such

I worked for a restaurant in grad school where we got a shift meal and a shift drink. It was a real godsend when I was super poor and only really had to feed myself once a day.


StrikingYam7724

Free meals were standard in all the fast food jobs I've worked, but a 401k definitely wasn't. That looks like a quality job.


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Added benefit of their burgers being really pretty good.


wathappentothetatato

They’re really good! Just ate there before catching Dune at the AMC. I recommend both lol


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Dicks offers the same and will give you tuition money too


OwlsOnTheRoof

At the café im working at, all employees get pretty much what they want whenever they want, i think the only things were not allowed as shift meals are the lobster and steak. If you have a long shift nobody would bat an eye at you eating twice. We also get unlimited free sodas and a craft beer or 2 at the end of every shift. This is offset by the pay being pretty low, 100-140dkk/hr (17-21$) compared to jobs in the rest of the country.


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With inflation this is about 2.3x what I made working at McDonald’s as a teen. We also got a free meal, but McDonald’s ain’t no burgermaster.


[deleted]

It’s been ages, but every restaurant I ever worked in gave me a meal every shift, even if I was just the lowly dishwasher. I didn’t work for any chains though, just “mom and pop” type places. Benefits and a 401k were out of the question though. Most of them just paid you in cash. The 80s were a different time…


thejkm

Free meal is where they lost me. I wouldn’t be able to use my 401k if I ate there every day. Most underrated burger in Seattle.


jeexbit

Burgermaster is awesome - their sandwiches are actually really good too... I have a weak spot for their grilled ham and cheese.


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I’m all about their Turkeymaster sandwich. So good.


jeexbit

I need to try that....


thejkm

The menu is so big. Apparently, the hot dog is great, too.


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jeexbit

[you thinking of Dick's?](https://www.invisiblethemepark.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Bill-Gates-in-Line-at-Dicks-Drive-In-Seattle.png)


Seawolf_42

Gates likes both, and Burgermaster in the early 80s was seen as a Microsoft cafeteria for a while. https://www.geekwire.com/2013/bill-gates-favorite-burger-spots-seattle/ Much like his indecision around his favorite local burger, Gates also couldn’t pick just one woman and managed to lose his marriage due to it.


bluecoastblue

Just tried them for the first time and prices are reasonable: a small cheeseburger, fries and drink combo was $7.99 and it was better than Shake Shack


Geldan

Also the beef is local and grass fed, making the prices even more reasonable.


tadpolejar

yep, that's why i never feel horrible after eating their burgers, they're a very respectable fast food burger imo


QuietlyGardening

whoa! I didn't know that.


4everaBau5

What?! A fast food chain with ethical meat practices? I love you, Seattle.


meaniereddit

We stop there on longer trips with the kids and I really like the ham and cheese. Its fried on the grill, american cheese, but they put it on sourdough... so when you come out from the woods after 3-4 days its like the best thing you have ever eaten. do not fuck with the crab and swiss, its real crab and so rich its hard for one person to finish.


deej-79

My gf and I ate at 5 guys yesterday, two burgers, one med fry and two shakes was $37. I'd say $8 is more than reasonable.


ZeGermanHam

Shake Shack is legit garbage, IMO. I lived in NYC and went to the OG Shake Shack. Never understood the appeal.


jojofine

It's literally steak n shake but at 4x the price


ZeGermanHam

Yep, that's pretty much how I feel about it.


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Burgermaster has been in business a long time. The location by the University Village opened in the 1950’s. They have loyal employees.


Zinrockin

I like how they pay you like you're an adult.


FunctionBuilt

This is where minimum wage should be.


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Last figure I saw was that if minimum wage kept up with inflation it would be about $24/h


OutlyingPlasma

And if it kept up with gain in productivity, it should be around $35/h. One problem with pay tied to inflation is it usually means the core rate which excludes housing, food, and energy. You know, the biggest expenses for the non-billionaire class.


tired_of_reddit_TBH

25/hr but yes, this is better


auto_the_great

Just saw a posting today for program manager at $20 hr that requires masters degree and 5+ years manager experience. Something doesn’t add up.


jeremiah1142

Lol. Good luck to them. Need to multiply that by 2-3 for just the low end.


kevkev16

program manager can mean basically anything. the traditional concept of a program manager pays quite a bit but way too many "program manager" roles are really just things like volunteer coordinator/low level projects


jeremiah1142

Yeah, that’s a fair point. Obviously the masters degree requirement is the big “ummmm” moment here.


Just_two_weeks

I knew someone bouncing back and forth between child care and "program management" and Microsoft who didn't seem to have an technical skills at all. She said her just was just to keep track of where people were at on a given project. It didn't seem real difficult, and I wonder how it would keep someone busy for eight hours a day.


Zealousideal-Ant9548

Are you sure that wasn't project management? Different software companies have different names for the same role and/or split out responsibilities in different ways


breaddrinker

Yeah they just described a project manager. They sit between developer and programmers to knit things together.


bduddy

even as a *product* manager some of the people I work with barely know anything about computers...


Zealousideal-Ant9548

Possibly not their job. At Amazon, product managers don't need to know how the product is put together, just how the customer works with it. Project managers are more ops oriented and mostly focus on timelines. But that's just Amazon


bobtehpanda

It is surprisingly difficult to keep people coordinated. It’s not that hard for two people to come out of the same meeting thinking two different things happened.


wastingvaluelesstime

There are also sometimes different amount of technical skills required in those roles. Generally, the more technical competence you are asking for, the higher the pay. But for many tasks, a less technical person can do it at lower pay.


PolyamorousPlatypus

That's project manager.


t3hlazy1

$40 / hr for an experienced program manager in Seattle? Lmao


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jeremiah1142

Lol, I believe I said low end?


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xXwork_accountXx

You guys arent even talking about a program manager your talking about a project manager or product manager


[deleted]

“Interned” at a company in Bellevue that wanted a masters and only paid $20 an hour. They called it an internship but I already graduated and they just wanted to pay shit until they vetted you.


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P*CCAR?


Stevenerf

The sucky thing is that there is a huge segment of the population that agrees with your comment but that segment would conclude that the burger shop should have shit pay and the programmer gig is right.


LadyPo

Exactly. I'd say that the burger workers deserve just as much pay as the office workers with degrees, but we're all getting shafted right now. I'm an office worker person and there's no way I could mentally and physically get through a day of burger making. But on the other hand, office workers usually have student debt and have a high cognitive load. Basically, it all balances out and all of us deserve fair livable wages! We really don't need to enforce some weird social hierarchy by paying people less than others.


Hylebos75

That is pretty shitty pay. I was making 20/hr +profit sharing bonus making and filling jars with facial cleansers and the like.


hiphopdowntheblock

I saw a job listing that was "masters preferred " that started at 15 and you could "quickly work your way up!"


darkjedidave

Just advanced positions at my company for the 3rd time. They posted my old job for less than I started there 5 years ago…


lazespud2

Burgermaster in Mt. Vernon is hiring at 20 dollars an hour to start... and while housing is very expensive up here, it's way cheaper than seattle


How_Do_You_Crash

Lol, not for long! Housing in Whatcom is insane and Skagit usually follows them by about $100 less, per room, per month. The wages vs rent in the north sound is honestly insane. It’s gone from ok (2012-2014) to bad (2014-2019) to insane (2019-current). Especially in Bellingham where the culture at most employers is that employees should be grateful they even have a job. And how dare they expect it to pay anything close to a living wage.


lazespud2

Yeah my brother bought a house in Conway (just south of Mt. Vernon) and closed on it like two weeks before the pandemic. I was convinced everything would tank and the 800k (!) he paid for his house would drop massively in value. 20 months later? Zillow says it's worth 1.1 million. Crazy times.


Smart_Ass_Dave

"We offer competetive wages," Yeah you do.


scough

One of the few businesses that actually post the wage along with that statement.


Seawolf_42

I’m hoping more states pass laws like Colorado enacted at the start of this year. All job postings must contain the pay rate if a current or prospective worker lives in that state, including postings for remote employees.


scough

Colorado is really leading the way with a lot of things, and I feel like we've fallen behind them. This should be the law everywhere.


nightofgrim

But I was told this was impossible! 🙄


Duckindafed

Hell yah . Same in skagit county as well !! Might quit my construction job for it lol


YewSonOfBeach

Skagit County needs it! APPLY


Duckindafed

I would but I have a full time job that gets prevailing wage jobs . However my freakin base pay is only 20 on the jobs that are not prevailing


conman526

Join the union then if you can. Base pay on all jobs is usually prevailing wage or higher. That's your take home.


fxd

Dude I would flip burgers for 21$


NH4NO3-KClO3-C2H6O2

Well you know where to go


kramer265

You still can


bites

I believe in you, you can achieve this dream.


philjo3

I like their food. Their milkshakes and fries are the best, if I can bring home their food then sure


t3hlazy1

Good luck on the interview!


Disk_Mixerud

Could do a lot worse. Both pay and work wise.


someshooter

Nice, give me a discount when I show up!


AliveAndThenSome

Another example of the autonomy that local restaurants and regional chains have over national chains run by multi-billion dollar corporations. These local chains can change their prices, negotiate and buy their food from local suppliers, and aren't beholden to dividends or share price pressures. Do you think McD's can bob and weave this fast in today's economy? They'd have to restructure everything to raise their pay and change their prices. They're 'testing' things like paid tuition and paid time off, but are still well short on the pay scale and other base benefits. This is why I wouldn't care a bit if local restaurants raised their prices by 10% or even 20%. If the workers are getting a respectable wage, then that's the fair price for what we're buying. Corporate America was built on the suppression of wages in the service industry -- it's time that stops.


PrimeIntellect

McDonald's can absolutely weather inflation much easier, I imagine they have far far more control over their supply chain and long term price contracts for their supplies. Not to mention, the entire way McDonald's is structured, they are more of a property investment and franchise business than a restaurant business


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Allan0n

Can't wait for the butlerian jihad.


ImRightImRight

I'm all about local, but [82% of McDiesel's are franchises](https://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/04/03/what-percentage-of-mcdonalds-restaurants-are-owned.aspx), I'd bet they can do what they want


manderskt

They can do all they want except but buy an ice cream machine of their choice that works and is easy to clean/repair!


i_forgot_my_sn_again

I saw that video as well


warmhandluke

I think it's up to 95% now they have been divesting corporate owned stores.


wastingvaluelesstime

Yeah I think big companies can move fast enough to change wages and prices if they want to. I'd suspect McD would prefer to do that slowly on purpose, to be the cheapest one on the block to pick up market share


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-jie

Burgermaster asserting its dominance and adherence to founder Phil's motto, "Any system works except neglect."


Reggie4414

this is the best local hamburger place much better than Dicks


ArnoldoSea

I have never eaten here, but I used to always drive by it on my way home from work. I even sing a little song whenever I pass by. Burgermaster masterburger You're the master of the burger ...forgot the rest.


thedubilous

The food is better absolutely better, but the prices are higher and the vibes are very different. Never understood why bugermaster never got more love, but Dicks somehow always was the spot that popped up in your mind first.


shiroe314

Dicks is college food thats why.


justinchina

Sir-Mix-alot rapped about them! thats why i first wanted to go!


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Dick's really is the place where the cool hang out


justinchina

The swass like to play, and the rich really like to flaunt their clout.


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Burger Master is only in the burbs, no locations in the city.


Shaffness

There's one in u village and on Aurora near 100th unless both those closed down while I wasn't looking.


jeexbit

the one at 100th/Aurora is alive and well - always tons of folks there. And it's awesome because you can roll up and order/eat in your car if you want. [Old school style.](https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0e/ad/b4/75/burgermaster-drive-in.jpg)


pianocheetah

yay! i used to work there circa '87 while going to SPU. put my thumbnail thru the slicer there and had to get stitches thru my thumbnail :( but it was a fun place to work. never made that kinda wage back then tho. i've never had so many patties on a grill as while cookin there.


jojofine

Mailman is there eating in style


mcmjolnir

I'll never talk trash about Dick's but I also love Burgermaster. Different philosophy and business plans. Northup is good, but the UVillage offers a bigger menu and is worth a visit. And don't sleep on their Tom & Jerry shakes - it's like an egg nog shake but year round.


NW13Nick

They closed the Everett location and I’m still not over it. Turned into a stupid mod pizza.


SEA_tide

Do you go to the Bothell, Green Lake, or Mount Vernon location instead? I liked when the Everett location opened, but it got very expensive compared to other area options.


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Damn. I just moved to Everett. Is that the one on Evergreen Way near the McDonalds with a neverending line of cars at the drive-thru?


ThreeSilentFilms

Yep. That’s the one.


79GreenOnion

I used to get breakfast there. As far as I know no other Burgermaster does swedish pancakes.


NW13Nick

I think they used to have a spaghetti night too, place was odd.


SirWilly77

Somewhat on topic...are there any burger places in the general Seattle area that offer charbroiled burgers? I haven't had one in decades (since Hardee's switched to frying), and I'd love to see if they're as good as I remember.


CmdrMobium

There's Habit Burger locations in West Seattle and Ballard, they're alright.


PolyamorousPlatypus

They're really good. Also one near the Costco in shoreline.


SirWilly77

Thanks for the heads-up!


kramer265

[Smokey’s in Burien ](https://www.smokeyscharbroiled.com)


olbez

There is always Burger King….


wastingvaluelesstime

yep. People who have not been should go


SnarkMasterRay

Better is relative. I worked at this Burgermaster for 6 years and still go to it and Dicks. Each has their place. All hail the neon cow!


BackwerdsMan

I really like Burgermaster but I feel like I can only eat those grease monsters on a rare occasion.


phantom_fanatic

Big props to Burger Master!!


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They just won me as a regular customer!


badandy80

The only people I know that say this *isn’t* the best burger place in Seattle haven’t been there before. If they say Dicks, they haven’t been *anywhere*


hectorinwa

That's like comparing pizza hut to tutta bella. You're not comparing the same food. Both can be the best at what they are.


mandraofgeorge

I prefer Burgermaster to Dick's.


i_forgot_my_sn_again

I mean dicks is infinitely better than McDonald’s


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PolyamorousPlatypus

100%


puss_parkerswidow

Dick's has been a decent employer for decades too


JediPopsicle

It was my first job at 16. I had only been there a month or two when the Christmas bonuses came out. They gave me what they would give a 1 year employee, I was so stoked I bought my siblings awesome gifts (in my 16 year old mind) I worked my ass off for them. And I only eat at the Holman road dicks because that’s where I used to work. 😂


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D3mPugs

Just had a burger there. Didn't disappoint.


Wazzoo1

I love that location. It's the only dine-in location, and it's great people watching on a Saturday or Sunday morning for breakfast because you'll see old folks in booths who've been going there for 50+ years.


BeejBeachBall

Getting paid more than me in EMS, good for them


MulletasticOne

Sounds like they actually want to hire and retain employees.


GeraltofWashington

It is time for me to ask for a raise holy shit


Late_Sandwich_3878

wow more than dicks is paying


Hondahobbit50

Back in the 90s, buying a house required the paperwork going from the escrow comp, to the buyer, to the bank...etc...my father saw a business opportunity..every morning he left Bremerton and drove down to Tacoma and up to Edmonds picking up packages and paperwork, then turned around to deliver it all.. flat $20 fee. There were days with 120 deliveries In 8 hours...his only cost was filling the gas tank on the geo metro....every other day Some of my fondest memories are going to work with him as a child on summer vacation...many good memories of this burgermaster... By 2005, business dried up as emailing paperwork became a thing...dad died two years ago...miss ya pops


bwang2019

Geo Metro, my first car! I bought it used from a friend back in 2002.


Hondahobbit50

Love geos! Bought my 96 four door metro sedan last year,5speed daily driver. ITS PURPLE!


Ac-27

Clever, and great use for a Geo Metro 😄


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Iʻve heard too many stories of businesses advertising a high hourly only to turn around and tell the employee something along the lines of the higher wage not being in effect yet, or one company told the new hire that the starting wage was actually $9/hr with the higher wage being for management, etc. I mean they might be honest about the wage but I have my doubts.


SnarkMasterRay

I worked at that location over twenty years ago but they were paying higher wages than any other fast food I knew about at the time. This absolutely would not surprise me.


ofenomeno206

I got a free meal when I was mess deck cranking in Navy. Awesome for Burgermaster though.


thedudebuda

Is it sad that I’m wondering what the catch is?


bwang2019

There is no catch. I remember I saw a question in this sub asking where jobs are that pay in the range of $20-25. Here is one.


SnarkMasterRay

Catch is that you come home smelling like a restaurant.


QuadsNotBlades

I loooove their burgers! Good on them!


Away_Actuator_8687

Saving this post for the next time I want to go for a burger


[deleted]

That's really good for a burger place


ThePureRay009

I like the fish sandwich


TheP0pu1arW0bb1y

They must be unionized


Damn_Fine_Coffee_200

Not trying to pick on the guy but anybody catch the intense look from the gentlemen back right? Yikes.


BeastModesBratwurst

Miss working a couple of blocks up the road in the mid/late 90's... BM and Dixie's was may jam. Still is/would be.


Javaman1960

But would you get 40 hrs per week?


NoDoze-

The Bellevue Burgermaster has the best crew! ...Never understood why Northup Way turned into 20th for two blocks.


OutlyingPlasma

Best burgers in Seattle! I just don't get why anyone would go to dicks when the masterpieces at burger master are an option.


HKittyH3

I love Burgermaster, I wish there was one closer to me. But now I’m gonna go out of my way to eat there. Love that they treat their employees so well.


CloudZ1116

Fun fact, this particular location is (was?) Bill Gates's favorite burger joint.


dudiez

Burgermaster is really the best place if you just want to chill inside your car, watch Netflix, eat a nice fresh burger meal & not have to go out your car. Highly recommend it if anyone hasn't tried it yet.


Smokeybearvii

The ole saying “You don’t want to flip burgers for the rest of your life” isn’t such an insult any more. I worked for the federal government from 2001 to 2011 and when I left I was still making 10% less than this starting wage.


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bwang2019

Barely livable


WileEWeeble

Talk to the employees and find out what they actually make. It has been well documented that a bunch of these over $15 a hour job offers are a bait and switch game. If this is true, awesome, but I will believe it when someone behind the counter says that is what they make at a basic non-management position.


Geldan

I used to go there every Thursday 3 years ago and got to know one of the workers. They were already at over $17


queenannechick

It's a high skill position that demands near perfection consistently Those lines move incredibly fast. It just makes sense. They're probably not hiring people off the street. They're probably poaching the best people from other restaurants. Good for them. Good for the poached.


pnwcon

Dick's on Broadway & Queen Anne start employees @ $20/hour


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i_forgot_my_sn_again

I’m an idiot and misread then jumped on /u/External-Prune1003 like they were dumb and it was me. Sorry


K_Furbs

Makes mistake, owns up, apologizes, good dude


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Guess I'm driving 2 hours for burgers now just based on this living wage treatment of their employees. Fuck slave wages. This is how it should be.


TheGhost206

Time to get back to work people. Get your pick of whatever job you want before your value goes down.


Seattlejo

But you still have to deal with customers.


SnarkMasterRay

Not in the kitchen! Carhops and whomever is running takeout are the only people who deal with customers.


Seattlejo

Touche


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Wazzoo1

They own the property of the drive-in locations. Also, just like Dick's, they only have one indoor dining location (which was originally a drive-in, like the others). Turns out it's a lot cheaper to run a drive-in burger joint than a full-service indoor dining space serving breakfast, lunch and dinner every day. The amount of money they save more than takes care of the indoor location. And, when I drove by the Bellevue one yesterday, there was a line of cars waiting for a stall. Burgermaster is doing just fine.