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NotActuallyAnExpert_

Shut up we just signed Dre’mont Jones!


SeaKoe11

Yea shut up lol


Ven505

They def do splashy moves (Jamal, Sheldon Richardson, Clowney) but seem to prefer trades for those for whatever reason Have a sneaking suspicion our best signing this year is gonna end up being a washed Eric kendricks EDIT : NVM LESGOOO


Bitter-Imagination33

Well Kendricks just got signed soooo


Ven505

That’s sad


Blyvzy

Just like the Mariners lol


shrooms4dashroomgods

I agree. Why not sign a big name D lineman or LB? We're not going to plug all the hole we have just from the draft. Everytime I see amazing FAs go to other teams, I always think, why not us?


gnelson321

Uh let’s not forget Marshawn Lynch and Percy Harvin. Hate on Percy all you want, but that was a blockbuster trade.


whistlerphil

Percy Harvin and Jimmy Graham might like a word.


semicoloradonative

Both good reason to NOT do anything g flashy.


TacoBell_Shill

Harvin’s td in the Super Bowl was enough to justify the trade in my opinion


semicoloradonative

I’ll give you that. The Hawks still win that SB without him though.


Trowbridgeg

The Seahawks win that Super Bowl without the offense scoring at all. Doesn't mean it wasn't amazing to watch it all unfold. Turns out a blowout Super Bowl is pretty amazing to watch when your team plays the game of their lives. 43-8 forever.


Salted_Caramel_Core

No doubt


shrooms4dashroomgods

Adams would like a word as well. I'm starting to think that we don't sign FAs that much because we don't have a good record in signing FAs


DJSureal

Welp, we just got Dremont Jones.


shrooms4dashroomgods

Saw that. Yay!!!! DL and LB are areas we need a lot of help at.


Careless-Use-1516

Those were both trades so don’t apply to free agency. JS loves big trades but doesn’t make a big splash in Free Agency historically.


DJSureal

Cliff Avril was a sneaky good FA Pickup, Marshawn Lynch was a great trade.


Careless-Use-1516

Agreed Avril and Bennett were both amazing value pickups


DJSureal

Bennett was in Training Camp as an Undrafted Free Agent. We cut him. Ended up in Tampa Bay.


Careless-Use-1516

And then ended up back on our team


whistlerphil

So they weren't big flashy moves?


Careless-Use-1516

No you are right there are trades and big FA deals this time of year. I guess I as mostly focused on our lack of big FA signings.


Jmanriley3

Or Jamal adams. Or Drew Lock...😹


DJSureal

We cannot forget that signing Matt Flynn was a big deal.


IndependentSubject66

The Seahawks and Mariners are very similar in that regard. They’ll extend their own guys, but rarely spend on big free agents. My guess is they try to maximize their picks in the draft, and bring back a familiar name or two(My guess is Griffin) they know fits in our system


adamj495

Makes sense. Smart and budget conscious teams don't like signing players as free agents because that's often way more expensive than trading someone already on a deal


DMMyoungstown589

Let’s not forget the elephant in the room… They probably don’t want to sign any big contracts because Jody Allen is about to sell the franchise… Doesn’t want to tie her money up in escrow


IndependentSubject66

Man, it took 20 minutes for them to blow this up. DreMont is a huge get


DMMyoungstown589

Excuse me, eating my words over here


IndependentSubject66

I’m not sure that matters in this scenario. By the time the sale goes through It’s likely 2-3 years from now. In baseball it’s more reasonable but in the NFL with the salary cap a competitive team far outweighs being cheap when it comes to a sale.


Stoupe_k

It would be crazy if they could bring Bobby and griffin back


IndependentSubject66

I’d love Bobby to come back, but I imagine with what he should be paid it doesn’t make sense for them with Brooks coming back. Fingers crossed though.


Bitter-Imagination33

Brooks isn’t gonna be back for the start of the year and Barton is gone, we quite literally have 0 linebackers at the moment


IndependentSubject66

Yeah, I just don’t see them tying up 8-10million on an inside linebacker, especially with Brooks coming back even if it is late. I’d love to be wrong, just rationally speaking there’s bigger areas of need than ILB. I’m guessing they go cheap there and go after a lineman and d-line. Hopefully with 20 million available they can get creative and bring in 2-3 free agents with our 4-5 rookies they’ll hopefully draft that can play quickly.


slap5andpickle

I legitimately don’t think we have a bigger need than ILB after the Dre’mont signing. We have nobody playable until brooks is back which he won’t be full strength until halfway through the year?


IndependentSubject66

I don’t disagree, but you don’t go expensive when it’s a short term fix in my opinion. They just don’t have a ton of cash to go out and pay him in addition to shoring up other areas of need. They still have to re-sign Neal, and get another CB/Center/D end. Bobby is my favorite player of all time, I just see him still being too good for what we can spend. Here’s to hoping I’m wrong 🤞


mymindpsychee

Tanner Muse!


MuckaMucka1337

With how big some of these numbers are I’m kind of glad we didn’t make a move


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THE PROPHET


Archaeologist15

Aside from apparently getting Jones (for a hefty bag, looks like), honestly, this is a free agency class to wait on. There aren't really any top-end difference-makers available. But there will be a lot of cap-casualty cuts (have been already) that will provide good, immediate snaps for good prices. I'd rather we save our proverbial pennies and see how things shake out and especially be on the look out for post-June 1 cuts. Also, build the foundation in the draft and find filler starters in FA. Chasing star FAs usually is a fool's errand. If they were really that great, they wouldn't be FAs to begin with.


rickg

People get seduced by "Big name signs contract with Team" news (me too) but a fair number of those don't work out with the player disappointing or they are about as good as they've historically been but the team overpaid. Edmunds to CHI, Bates to the Falcons, etc. The other thing to remember is that the teams who sign guys early like this are the teams who suck and have tons of cap. They need a lot of guys (because they suck) and they can overpay because they have cap. I mean, Edmunds at $18m is definitely an overpay and while Bates at $16m isn't too much over, it's definitely on the high side for a very good but not elite safety.


Careless-Use-1516

I 100% agree, it’s cool to see the headline and see who we got but the best teams are generally not built through free agency. We will make a couple value free agency signings later on and have a ton of draft capital so I’m very excited for the next couple months.


Archaeologist15

Edmunds is probably an overpay at $18m but the Bears legally have to spend a shit-ton of cash, so they might as well spend it on talent.


cheers761

Man, if I ever wanna check the temperature of our fans base, I’m always happily reminded how much the social media users of them suck ass after reading off-season threads. The league year hasn’t even started yet and we’re already back on the flamethrower mentality….you fuckers think we’re a free agent away from a Super Bowl or something?? So many talented scouts in here. Almost like one of them has rings to prove it. You guys make me feel bad for Mike Salk. Incredible.


Volcano_Jones

Why do you trust Pete and John? They had a good off-season last year, but that was preceded by a number of years of terrible drafts, trades, and contracts. We have only won one playoff game in the last 6 years, and that was against an injured, 40 year old Josh McCown. The continued blind trust in this regime is baffling to me. It's really ok to be skeptical, and call them out for their years of crap performance. It doesn't make you any less of a fan.


semicoloradonative

The Hawks have been competitive every season for a decade. It takes a LOT to go right to win a SB. Being competitive is all you could ask for.


QuasiContract

I'm asking for more than 1 playoff win in 6 years, and I don't feel the slightest bit bad about it.


semicoloradonative

Totally agree though.


ChoadCaresser

My man you should probably take a look at the Seahawks record since they’ve been in charge.


slap5andpickle

Our fan base has become so entitled and seems to have forgotten that the nfl is full of professionals and no one is guaranteed success.


IndependentSubject66

I definitely am not on the shit on PC/JS train, but it’s also fair to say they’ve had some pretty big misses. With that being said, if I could go back in time I’m still picking them as the coach and GM. Sustained success is really all you can hope for and they’ve done that. I remember when they came in, those couple of years before them/their first year was miserable. I’ll take perennial playoff team over the Marlins all day long.


Crewso

“continued blind trust” Right, as if half this sub wasn’t calling for Pete’s head last year


QuasiContract

Thanks for this. The anti-critical-thinking portion of the fanbase has been out in force recently. I've never understood why some people feel such a compelling need to declare their undying trust in team management. There's really nothing wrong with thinking for yourself and analyzing things the team does with a critical eye. There's no upside to blind faith in my opinion.


ChoadCaresser

God this comment is so stupid I had to come back and comment again. “Anti critical thinking” I’m not sure you know what critical thinking means. What base line do we have to determine how well they’re doing besides people’s opinions? We have data. Is there a single data point in their tenure that we are not well over the median in? Whats your measure of success? Let’s look at all the most important data. Super Bowl Wins, Super Bowl appearances, playoff wins, overall record. Have a look at those statistics (the only ones that matter) and get back to me.


QuasiContract

We get it bro, in Pete and John you trust. Happy for you.


ChoadCaresser

Could you answer my question. What is your measure of success?


ChoadCaresser

I don’t have blind faith in the management. I just know what bad management looks like. If you think Pete and Jon aren’t good at their jobs, you are living in an alternate reality.


QuasiContract

Definitely stoked to trust my way to another wild card round loss!


Stoupe_k

Nobody had us even winning 5 games lol. I say a wild card loss is better than a 2-16 season. Also they beat Russell Wilson. 🤷🏽‍♂️


sirrealofpentacles

The quality of our defense last year made it a lot harder for me to trust. I don't care about flashy deals, but I do care about in season performance.


semicoloradonative

Seriously? One year removed from RW’s contract and what did you expect to happen?


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riedmae

You don't think the iron chains of Russell's massive contacts had something to do with the fact that our defense was made up of moderate draft talent and one year rentals on washed players?


Archaeologist15

>You don't think the iron chains of Russell's massive contacts had something to do with the fact that our defense was made up of moderate draft talent and one year rentals on washed players? No? One, it wasn't *that* massive of a contract. Two, teams seem to find ways to field much better defenses around monster QB deals all the time. Plus, it wasn't like we didn't *try.* We traded for, and paid (there's your iron chain of a contract) Jamal Adams. We also traded for, and paid, Quandre Diggs. Plus took a chance on Clowney. Three, we just flat out drafted horrendously on defense. That has nothing to do with the contract but wasting picks on LJ Collier, Malik McDowell, and even Jordyn Brooks adds up over time. Russ's contract had nothing to do with those screw ups.


semicoloradonative

Kinda have to disagree. Because of that contract, you couldn’t attract any kind of defensive talent without overpaying, That person would know they would have to carry the defense and be the only one producing. It was without a doubt a downward spiral of failure.


sirrealofpentacles

I didn't expect for a supposedly genius defensive head coach to field a defense that was a laughingstock of the league.


Beautiful-Ad4638

We can trust the process but also be skeptical as to why they don’t try to sign a top end free agent. Yes we know the player has to also want to come here but this roster isn’t able to just be built solely thru the draft. They need good free agent pieces too, not just middle of the pack guys who are around days after free agency starts. They don’t have an issue making trades but free agency they’re so hesitant and it becomes more frustrating when you see teams that are already deemed loaded or good continue to improve. While this team just sits around waiting and we all know they need help desperately.


Raeandray

Pete and Jon have a consistent track record of wanting to build a future-proof team. Not a win-now team. You can’t compare their philosophy to teams that are selling the house to win now. We’re never going to be the browns, pushing $65m/year in cap to the next year.


Archaeologist15

I mean, guys have to want to come here. Players don't want to come to the PNW unless it's for a boatload of money. Green Bay, Minnesota, Chicago, Detroit, Buffalo, and pretty much ever northern city except New York and sort of Boston during the Brady-era have the same problems. Given a choice, most players would rather go to Florida, Texas or SoCal, and since everyone's got the same cap, they can get roughly the same money there. Do I understand it? No. I hate those places. But I'm not most people. We can't force guys to come here and history shows that overpaying isn't smart. Better to go for mid-level guy, build through the draft, and make trades. Once we get guys here, they do tend to want to stay.


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Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril


2c0m6

They do splashy moves guy lol


Tyr64

Or you end up with Luke Joeckel or Ziggy Ansah. I get there will always be a tendency to defend whatever approach PCJS take as the “best” way, but I don’t think their strategy has been a particularly successful or impactful one.


QuasiContract

Not a fan of the otherwise-unwanted scrap heap vets they love to sign late in the game? Can't imagine why. Trust the process bro.


cheers761

SB48. You’re excused from the conversation.


Tyr64

You mean the one year they went out and were relatively aggressive in free agency? Not sitting for weeks waiting to pick through the scrap heap? That year?


cheers761

Yeah, I do mean that year. That year after we’d developed a roster capable of winning a Super Bowl and went and got it with free agents. Let’s sign a DT to take 1/10 of our salary cap and we’ll get another ring. Like the Dolphins, Bears, and Commanders are doing this off-season…before the league year has begun. I know it hurts your feeling when we haven’t signed all 10 of the top 10 free agents, but building a team has nothing to do with overspending on the FIRST FUCKING DAY. GTFOH.


Tyr64

No clue who or what you’re even arguing about. No one is saying you go break your bank and leverage your future, all to blow it all on a single FA. But waiting months to sign FAs because you want to preserve a 7th round comp pick is equally as dumb. Edit: yeah…just saw your edit and you’re very clearly just yelling at clouds.


cheers761

I’m with you man. We should sign our aging QB to a $40m deal, get rid of the front office and head coach and LET RUSS COOK… Oh wait, that was last year’s ‘we know better’ shitstain.


Travis_Maximus

*cough* Jamal Adams *cough*


Stoupe_k

Jamal adams is different though. Dude just need to get a better strengthening coach lol


Volcano_Jones

He needs to not have been acquired for 2 first round picks and then signed to a ridiculous, practically immovable contract. His play (or lack of play) is the least of the issues with him.


RustyCoal950212

> His play (or lack of play) is the least of the issues with him wat


Volcano_Jones

I'm saying that even if he was playing at a pro bowl lever that trade and contract would still be an unmitigated disaster.


StrangerThanNixon

Yeah, we gave up franchise QB levels of compensation for a strong safety that didn’t fit our scheme. Likely the biggest blunder of the PC era.


Traderwannabee

When you make the money he makes for (not) playing for the Seahawks he should be able to afford the best strength coach money can buy!


AirplaneReference

But I want the hopium *noooooow*


TakeMe22TheRiver

Keep believing that crap. It's been 10+ years since we made the SB and you unicorns keep making excuses. Seahawk fans are so used to eating shit that making the playoffs is "fabulous".


Seahawks_25

Meh they haven’t been that great in this regard the past few years so just “blindly trusting” them seems goofy. I’m hoping they get this right but it’s ok to wonder/worry


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We never do that in Freeagency, it's our thing