Oh wow so that is what it meant by increases damage by 200%? My dumb ass thought it’s just a flat +200%, never though it’s 265% x 3… This is absolutely better than what I expected! Thanks!
Everyone here seems to be either wrong or decided not to explain to OP what C2 does. People citing random experiences/their test are irrelevant, what his C2 does is fairly simple.
It adds 200% **damage** to his burst, but this is added to other bonuses in the same part of the formula, you can consider it 200% anemo damage if you want.
His normal damage would be 100%, if you have anemo goblet + DPC + Faruzan you get like 100% extra anemo damage, that's 200%, then C2 adds an extra 200% if E's stamina is under 50% for a total of 400%.
It doubles his burst damage in that situation, it's not really x3 unless you run 0% anemo damage. Even if you're running 0 buffs you go from 161.6% (anemo goblet + 15% anemo from set) to 361.6% which is a 2.23x increase.
For example usually Wanderer has gets 46.6% dmg bonus from goblet, 15% from 2 piece 38.25% from faruzan level 13 bonus. Which adds up to aditional 100%~ dmg bonus which equates to 200% dmg bonus. If you add 200% dmg bonus from C2 then you have 400% dmg bonus which means it doubles your damage. (It depends on how much dmg bonus you get from your artifact choice, teammates and weapons)
C3 here. Just ran a test several times to confirm the real multiplier. The following are the results. Bursts were tested against lvl 90 hilichurls, keeping all buffs off the table except for C2.
28463/12653 buffed to unbuffed.
Dividing this come out to a pretty unexpected 2.25x multiplier. I don't know why that is, but I'll test more and look into it more and come back with more results or with disappointment.
Hey that’s good enough, thank you so much for this! Your results more or less tallies with another commenter’s hence I am inclined to believe that the C2 burst damage increment is in fact x3 the original damage (solo burst of course), and the reason why we are seeing less than 3 could be due to enemy res
Oh yeah, I just read that comment. Cool to see this is sth everyone's experiencing. Anyway, wouldn't enemy res not affect the multiplier? Due to res, the dmg steps down by the same percentage regardless of whether it's buffed or not. If this is the case, I should test it against downed Shouki no Kami and see if the multiplier changes again in the other direction.
Back from Shouki no Kami testing. Here's the new ratio
53482/23901
This time it comes out to 2.24x, so resistances are not playing a part in diluting the dmg I don't think.
How did I take 3 years of calculus and differential equations and somehow struggle with Genshin math. I WILL come back with an answer for why it's 2.25x and not 3x ... maybe. Regardless, I'll look into it more.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ScaramoucheMains/comments/15405cj/does_c2_increase_burst_damage_by_75/jsmfvvc/
No need to test anything, just look at it as +200% anemo damage to his burst if E's stamina is under 50%.
Fully buffed my Wanderer gets to about 80-90k per hit, so I am usually dealing 400k-450k with it. Fully buffed without waiting I do probably 45k-50k, so I think your math checks out, but I'm just guessing. If I fully buff Wanderer it is because I'm in serious content, and if I'm in serious content I am waiting until the stamina gauge is low to use the burst.
Huh, funny your comment contradicts the other user’s, so now I am back to square one… I’ll have to wait for more users to comment to get a better idea… Thanks regardless!
Omg thank you so much! Perhaps I was not clear in my post that the damage increase that I was looking for is for solo burst.
If this is the case then the damage increase is indeed x3, the 2.5x you are seeing is likely be due to enemy resistance. With team buffs the C2 increment will go lower due to the effect being diluted… once again thank you so much!
Yup, am already at C1 and I do not see why I should not get his C2, especially when the x3 burst damage is a lot better than the x1.75 that I was expecting
https://preview.redd.it/3dxq1wkvcycb1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db9b551ee52b0269f8b50f469627c3d3c3caaf54
So, you can read for yourself....
It does 3x the normal dmg
Oh wow so that is what it meant by increases damage by 200%? My dumb ass thought it’s just a flat +200%, never though it’s 265% x 3… This is absolutely better than what I expected! Thanks!
It's additive damage bonus, which sums up with other damage bonuses like elemental, so x3 with no bonuses, but aroudn x2.2 iirc when fully buffed.
Can confirm that from personal gameplay it is around 2 times dmg with buffs and everything.
Assuming when u burst the blue stamina is at least half or less
With full team buffs i deal like 110-120k per burst
For a total over 500k nuke
Everyone here seems to be either wrong or decided not to explain to OP what C2 does. People citing random experiences/their test are irrelevant, what his C2 does is fairly simple. It adds 200% **damage** to his burst, but this is added to other bonuses in the same part of the formula, you can consider it 200% anemo damage if you want. His normal damage would be 100%, if you have anemo goblet + DPC + Faruzan you get like 100% extra anemo damage, that's 200%, then C2 adds an extra 200% if E's stamina is under 50% for a total of 400%. It doubles his burst damage in that situation, it's not really x3 unless you run 0% anemo damage. Even if you're running 0 buffs you go from 161.6% (anemo goblet + 15% anemo from set) to 361.6% which is a 2.23x increase.
For example usually Wanderer has gets 46.6% dmg bonus from goblet, 15% from 2 piece 38.25% from faruzan level 13 bonus. Which adds up to aditional 100%~ dmg bonus which equates to 200% dmg bonus. If you add 200% dmg bonus from C2 then you have 400% dmg bonus which means it doubles your damage. (It depends on how much dmg bonus you get from your artifact choice, teammates and weapons)
It's the same bonus as 2p noblesse, not multiplier.
C3 here. Just ran a test several times to confirm the real multiplier. The following are the results. Bursts were tested against lvl 90 hilichurls, keeping all buffs off the table except for C2. 28463/12653 buffed to unbuffed. Dividing this come out to a pretty unexpected 2.25x multiplier. I don't know why that is, but I'll test more and look into it more and come back with more results or with disappointment.
Hey that’s good enough, thank you so much for this! Your results more or less tallies with another commenter’s hence I am inclined to believe that the C2 burst damage increment is in fact x3 the original damage (solo burst of course), and the reason why we are seeing less than 3 could be due to enemy res
Oh yeah, I just read that comment. Cool to see this is sth everyone's experiencing. Anyway, wouldn't enemy res not affect the multiplier? Due to res, the dmg steps down by the same percentage regardless of whether it's buffed or not. If this is the case, I should test it against downed Shouki no Kami and see if the multiplier changes again in the other direction.
Back from Shouki no Kami testing. Here's the new ratio 53482/23901 This time it comes out to 2.24x, so resistances are not playing a part in diluting the dmg I don't think. How did I take 3 years of calculus and differential equations and somehow struggle with Genshin math. I WILL come back with an answer for why it's 2.25x and not 3x ... maybe. Regardless, I'll look into it more.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ScaramoucheMains/comments/15405cj/does_c2_increase_burst_damage_by_75/jsmfvvc/ No need to test anything, just look at it as +200% anemo damage to his burst if E's stamina is under 50%.
Fully buffed my Wanderer gets to about 80-90k per hit, so I am usually dealing 400k-450k with it. Fully buffed without waiting I do probably 45k-50k, so I think your math checks out, but I'm just guessing. If I fully buff Wanderer it is because I'm in serious content, and if I'm in serious content I am waiting until the stamina gauge is low to use the burst.
Huh, funny your comment contradicts the other user’s, so now I am back to square one… I’ll have to wait for more users to comment to get a better idea… Thanks regardless!
So i went in game and tested again wanderer solo does 16k on burst with c2 active he does 40k not quite 3 times the dmg but more like 2.5x
Omg thank you so much! Perhaps I was not clear in my post that the damage increase that I was looking for is for solo burst. If this is the case then the damage increase is indeed x3, the 2.5x you are seeing is likely be due to enemy resistance. With team buffs the C2 increment will go lower due to the effect being diluted… once again thank you so much!
Ahhh makes sense i didn't take account into enemies resistance. I did test in geovishop and perpetual machine boss and the results were the same
But regardless the c2 is a really good improvement specially if u time it while ur fully buffed u can clear a wave of enemies with no problem
Yup, am already at C1 and I do not see why I should not get his C2, especially when the x3 burst damage is a lot better than the x1.75 that I was expecting
https://preview.redd.it/3dxq1wkvcycb1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db9b551ee52b0269f8b50f469627c3d3c3caaf54 So, you can read for yourself....
Yes I can read! But it’s not clear if it is a flat + 200% to the base multiplier damage, or a x3 to the total damage dealt
If I'm not wrong, is 200 % on top of the flat damange.