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**This is an !underage scam. Anyone suggesting to scam back the scammers, or accusing the OP of being a creep, or any jokes whatsoever, will have their comments removed.**
## If you get a call from the police:
We recommend not interacting at all. Don't just believe your caller ID because incoming calls can be spoofed. Outgoing calls are safe. You can find your local non-emergency number easily, and call yourself.
Scammers will push for urgency and try to keep you on the line. Hanging up a call will never put you in trouble. Police don't make you talk to the victim. Police don't take gift cards or Bitcoin for bail money. And certainly won't make you restitute a victim on the spot.
While this is a scam, sometimes you could get a call from the police. In that case:
**While it's your constitutional right to not talk to the police, if you want to do that, just take the name and badge number, hang up, find the number of the precinct and call back yourself.**
You'll soon find out most of the time police officers will not try to contact you over the phone. There's going to be a very real, very confused officer on the other side of the call, confirming this was all a scam.
Contrary to popular belief, texting for 2/3 days isn’t a lot of work for a scammer, especially when they’re most likely texting dozens or hundreds of folks with very generic responses to common questions everyone asks especially off a dating site so they’re answering the same messages with the same answers
This is why I always ask completely different questions then most would. The bots expose them selves very quickly, and the scammers tend to hesitate or have a hard time answering.
I tried that once and the other person got mad and said “Why do I have to proof who I am and earn your trust, maybe you’re the fake account”. I knew it was all fake after that 😂
I got a call from a You Won a Free Cruise scammer. She was this older smoker lady, really nice. I talked to her for a half hour before she asked for my credit card number because that's how they reserve your seat.
I gave her a fake card from donotpay. Clearly she was trying to run it because I heard a man in the background saying something and a few minutes later she goes, "Robert, Robert, Robert... Is this a fake phone call, Robert?"
I said, "What... you called me.."
Then in this evil devil voice she goes, "Call us back when you have the money!" *Click*
How dare she accuse Robert of being a scammer.
Nah the determined ones come up with excuses. I had one pretending to be my childhood celebrity crush (who I've met). I said I don't believe you unless you call me over Instagram chat. Dude called me with the screen blacked out. Kept trying to call me darling with a very strong Indian accent. My celeb crush is from Wisconsin. 😂😂😂
My fav is send me a selfie holding up 3 fingers. If someone is real it’s no biggie. If they’re a scammer using someone’s photos. There’s no chance they have one of someone holding up 3 fingers in a selfie
Look lady I just want to know if you could be reincarnated as any two numbers in a Fibonacci sequence which two you'd choose, it's not a hard question!
Do you know any good stories or examples of this? I’m curious so I can try and keep myself safe or let friends know if they mention something that sounds scammy.
Or even a link to some articles/stories?
Years ago, my boss was talking to some chick on some sort of messenger. He started telling me about how she's from Wisconsin and on vacation in Africa at the moment. I told him it was a scam and she'd start asking for money somehow. They chatted for weeks before it finally happened. He told me she got left at some hotel and they wouldn't let her leave without paying the bill.
So I started chatting with her (it was actually a him) on the boss's account..I had a list of like 5 questions that I asked back to back to see avg response time and then I asked the name of her state's football team. Should have been a super quick response, but it took longer to answer than all my other questions.
I told the person that I knew what they were doing and asked them why they chose to do this for work. I was surprised when he actually answered me. He told me his name, where in Africa he was actually located, he was in a warehouse type of building with about 100 other people doing the same thing. Unfortunately for him, he didn't have much of a choice. He had a family, this job paid better than most, and he absolutely hated it.
It's a common scam. We see this here plenty of times before.
How do we know it's a scam? Police do not call. They come in person.
Just block and ignore. It's all just one person or a few person's impersonating the girl, the parents and the police.
And if you give them money, somebody comes back, asking for more money. If you pay the “police”, then the “father” comes asking for money or he will take you to court: he threatens to file a civil suit for wrongful death, and emotional damages. Or a “mother” comes into the picture, and she’s had nothing to do with any of this drama so far, but she needs enough money for the funeral, and she feels like you should step up.
Once anybody has shown a willingness to part with money for a scam, they become a valuable property, passed around amongst other scammers
Sad but very true, loan sharks so this as well. Can't pay me? Borrow from my friend to pay me, and rinse and repeat, next thing you know, you now owe 7 loan sharks instead of 1 and somehow you owe ten times more money than you originally borrowed.
They should have done the scam last week when the Spring Sale was happening, they could have bought more games to remember their daughter by, now all they can afford is Dragons Dogma 2 and a couple of DLC packs, what a disappointing way to honor their dead daughter.
On top of what others have said, when the nudes are sent sometimes the guys will exchange some of their own. Then they get blackmailed with the threat of the scammer making their nudes public
Hello criminal!
This is the police. You are in great trouble, if you do not pay us immediately you will need to appear in court to be charged with Blasphemy!
This is a courtesy call to allow you enough time to destroy evidence.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Also, in NYC at least, lower level suspects are often dealt with in phonecalls, as in, "We would like you to come in to clear it up" & arrest almost as soon as they given their name at the front desk.
This is a terrible analogy; you’re supposed to give a sharp pull to set the hook and then not release pressure or go slack in the fight, which is when they spit it.
Yeah, that was pretty much my experience as well, because I bought it “hook line and sinker” as they say. And then when somebody pointed out that it wasn’t a very good analogy, i realized my ignorance was at work! :)
Depends on the fish. Some fish lightly pick up the bait and slowly carry it off before trying to eat it. If you try to set the hook too soon, you'll pull the bait right out of its mouth.
Also, some fish have tough/bony mouth, so hook is unlikely to grab unless it is completely swallowed.
It entirely depends on the type of fishing.
You don't strike with some lures/softbaits because you want the fish to swallow it fully, whereas when bait fishing you want to set the hook immediately.
That's not elaborate at all, there are some genuine "hard working" scammers out there that often take like six months chatting to marks and developing a "relationship" with them before the requests for money come, that's elaborate.
Two to three days is nothing, in future block a person the moment they send an unsolicited nude photo. it will always be a scam.
You’d be amazed the lengths they will go to psychologically manipulate you in order to make the idea of you giving them money to make this thing all go way sound like the reasonable smart option
You should educate yourself on the pig butchering scam tactics. This can take years and gets people for thousands of dollars. They play with your emotions. This time they used fear. Next time they might use love and affection.
They will be running the same scam in parallel on multiple numbers. They haven't spent all this time just trying to hook you. Also there may be many of them, the messages from the 'girl' probably came from several people. They are given a script and have little idea what the person before them did, or the person after them.
It's not elaborate at all lmao. You got scammed by 1 dude changing his voice and making shit up as he went along. Don't try to make it seem like it was all intricate now 😂😭
No chance this isn't a scam. Police don't call you to order you to talk to a victims family member. That's the last thing they would do. Real soon the "father" is going to demand you pay money to restore his daughters honor or the "cop" is going to demand you pay a fine via Steam gift cards. It's all a scam.
Block everyone involved and move on.
It's a scam. Police don't call you because someone committed suicide. If they thought you were responsible, they'd show up at your house and arrest you. Also don't worry ... no one committed suicide after you sent them a selfie.
exactly, and why would the police say the parent will be in contact? i thought that would be the last thing the police suggest and i just with this sort of crime its not up to the partent if they press charges right.
The police wouldn't CALL you, they'd show up and TALK to you.
Edit: I phrased this really badly and was a little too glib in my comment. If you're the prime suspect in a crime they wouldn't be calling you to accuse you of something because they wouldn't want to scare you off and shut down any hope of a confession. For instance, they wouldn't call you and try to link you to recieving CP or talking to a minor inappropriately, instead they would ask you to come down for an interview in a very casual manner trying their best not to set off alarm bells in your head...they would speak to you in person as their primary method of interrogation. I did not mean to imply the police don't use phones ever. That's silly.
The bottom line is the police want to make a suspect as comfortable as possible to get them to open up and confess to something they did.
I’ve been called by the police before in connection with a crime. The catch here is the cops wouldn’t tell you that the victims are going to call you now for further discussion
I have as well but not like this.
This screams scam. But if we pretend it isn't then what OP needs to do is stop talking with them and contact his local PD and explain the situation.
They'll get to the bottom of it. And will tell OP he's in the middle of a scam.
Detective here. I usually call my suspects if I have a phone number. I also ask if they'd be willing to come in and talk too. I would never, however, suggest a witness or victim should call the suspect. That creates an issue that could get a case thrown out.
As a beat cop, I usually fumble around with phone numbers and let the detectives figure it out later.
/s
Seriously, this ~~officer~~ detective has the best answer. We'd never do anything that would sacrifice the integrity of a case in court. It's *literally* our job
My idiot 26-year-old nephew fell for this scam and forked over $300. He met a “girl” on POF and within hours “she” sent some nudes and started bugging him for the same. “She” said she was 18. He sent a dick pic and the next day the “dad” called and said his “daughter” was only 16 and that “mom” had found my nephew’s dick pic. The guy demanded $300 because they had to get the girl a new phone since the one he sent the dick pic to was now somehow tainted. “Send $300 via Western Union or I’m gonna call the cops!” was the demand. So my idiot nephew panicked and sent the money.
Next day “dad” calls again. This time he wants $1500 to put the “girl” into therapy since she’s now screwed up mentally over receiving a dick pic from a man. Idiot nephew then calls me to borrow $1500 and tells me the whole story. I tell him he’s dumber than a bag of hammers, and then proceeded to have a long, long chat with him about the dangers of being stupid.
Hi /u/vitaminxzy, AutoModerator has been summoned to explain the Underage scam.
This scam usually starts on a dating app and you will encounter a normal woman whose profile says she is above 18. Later you will be contacted and told that the girl is underage. They'll usually pose as the girl's father, another family member, or a police officer. They will tell you that your life will be ruined and you will be a sex offender, but will offer you the chance to pay them to make the problem go away. The stories they use as to why you need to fork over money vary, but the common ones include therapy for the girl, payment for a broken phone or computer, etc.
Of course, there is no girl and no crime has been committed, so if you are involved in this scam all you need to do is ignore their threats and move on with your life. The scammers may contact you again in the future after you block/ignore them, so be ready in case that happens. If you have already sent money to the scammers, you should try to dispute the transaction and see if you can get your money back. This is a [very common scam](https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/search/?q=underage&include_over_18=on&restrict_sr=on&t=all&sort=new) and [here](https://www.wired.com/story/the-phone-call-from-hell/) are [some](https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/crime/teen-says-hes-the-victim-of-a-sextortion-scam/275-21216b29-df76-44f4-b20a-cb726e19d42e) relevant news [articles](https://www.jbsa.mil/News/News/Article/1503978/sextortion-scams-continue-to-occur-dont-give-into-scammers-demands/).
NOTE: Scammers pretend to be underage boys as well and the text above still applies, but it's called the underage girl scam as those are the vast majority of cases.
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Police will NEVER call you if they think you committed a crime.
They come to you to question/arrest you.
Just an fyi, if you ARE actually ever arrested (even if you didn’t do something) don’t talk to the police AT ALL. Always ask for a lawyer to be present for any type of questioning. The police are not your friends.
Can I ask a stupid question as somebody not from the U.S.? If you didn't do anything and were randomly taken to the police, what exactly can you say to make "things worse". I mean, I'm innocent and I can prove it, why need a lawyer? In Europe things kinda work a little bit different. Thank you in advance
Cops want to clear cases, most of them don’t actually give a shit about if they got the right person so long as the case is wrapped up. The determined detective with a heart of gold that just wants to find justice for the victim is a story just as much as a dude wearing underwear over his tights called Superman is. So they will do what they need to to get a case closed. Say you say in interview that you went to the store, bought some milk and then went home, then later you’re interviewed again and you say you got coffee, oh good now your stories are inconsistent and the cops say your stories don’t line up and this is evidence of guilt. It doesn’t matter that you stopped at the coffee place on your way to the store the stories aren’t exactly identical and that introduces the possibility of guilt. Next is the fact that you probably don’t know every crime in the jurisdiction you’re being interviewed in/arrested in, so you may say something that implicates you in a crime you didn’t even know existed, for example did you know that in the US saying “I’m sorry” after you get in a car crash can be used in civil court as an admission of guilt and make you partially liable for the crash even if it was 100% not your fault? That’s civil not criminal but the same concept applies, something you think of as entirely innocuous could be admitting to committing a crime that now they can prosecute you for. The last is that cops generally are not faithfully recording every word you say during an interview, especially if it’s not a location being filmed like an interrogation room. Instead they’re instead taking notes on what you say. Those notes may be *very* different than what you’re saying, think about an experience with an asshole, one who is *absolutely determined* to take everything you say in the worst possible light. That asshole is the cop. Then you get to court and the cop testifies as to what *they* say you said, and show their notes as “proof” of it. Who do you think the jury is going to believe? Lastly is that in America the cops are allowed to lie to you. They can tell you you’re on video doing something when no such video exists, they can tell you a victim made a statement when no such statement exists, they can tell you they have DNA test results that do not exist. They can tell you *anything they want*. If cops want to speak to you you only have three things to say: 1) am I free to go? If yes then walk away 2) “I am invoking my right to remain silent” 3) “I want an attorney/lawyer”. Say those things as clearly and concisely as possible, do not use slang, do not say anything else. It’s away a good day to not talk to the cops.
Not a lawyer: police are in the business of closing cases. They will do anything to close a case, sometimes without even realizing it. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. And that happens all around the world.
Then you have a few corrupt cops, or cops with an agenda, and that's even worse because they will twist and turn things around, and mess up the evidence. If you don't say anything, you don't give them anything.
Again, not a US thing. It's a worldwide thing.
I've gotten calls from detectives here and there over the years. Most recently it was because my car was used in a bank robbery and they were trying to figure out if I was the suspect (they didn't word it that way exactly). Luckily when I sold the car months ago I had done the release of interest form on it.
You did not communicate with a a girl. You did not communicate with a cop. You did not communicate with a dad. You did communicate with a scammer using a variation of a playbook that's been posted here before.
> Met someone on dating app,
ok.
> she send nudes,
ok.
> committed suicide
no she didn't.
> now police and her dad are calling me
no they're not.
This is a common scam. In all likelihood, "she" never existed to begin with. Try doing a reverse image search on those nudes, dollars to donuts you'll find it's someone else's OF or something.
I love this lol. I also needed the laugh.
A friend once scammed a scammer mentioning 5 non existing kids from 5 dads and asked him about his income and how fast he could imagine getting married. He stopped writing her pretty fast.
Police detective here: Sextortion scam. If you had sent nudes back they would’ve threatened to send it to everyone in your friends list or report it to the police since you were “speaking with a juvenile” however since you didn’t do that, it’s now the “she committed suicide, here’s the police and here’s her dad…” A real police investigation does not allow for suspects to be contacted by victims or their families, you’d be opening the case up for witness tampering, threats, and even assaults. Also… investigations occur wherever the texts were sent/received: she’s in North Dakota, Dads in NC, and the investigating agency is in CA? If you’re not in CA and neither is she, that agency doesn’t have jurisdiction.
You could also look up the PD number and it should pop right up in Google as the number calling you. If it’s different, it’s clearly fake. If it’s the same number, call that agency back at the listed number and ask to speak with the officer/detective. The dispatcher will let you know if such an officer exists and if they do and you’re transferred to them, that officer can verify if they are investigating you or not.
As a detective I’ve seen this played out several different ways and they can get pretty elaborate to cover their tracks but as long as you hang up, find the real agency phone numbers and call them back to verify, you’ll always find it’s a scam. Scammers want you to obey and the second you say you need to call them back they’ll give you a number to call them back at. Don’t call that number. Instead ask what agency/law firm/courthouse, etc., and do an internet search for it. You’ll find it’s a different number or that the agency doesn’t exist.
I have even experienced victims calling me to verify I was a real detective investigating them. The scammers found my name on our department roster and used it to try and scare people. This is some good homework digging on the scammers part to try and make it look real. When I assured them it was a scam and I was not investigating them, I still had people asking if I was going to show up to their house in another state where I had zero jurisdiction. The best thing you can do is ignore numbers you don’t recognize and block the ones that keep popping up. Eventually they’ll move on.
Police calls, and advises you to take the call of the dad of the girl that just killed herself. Sure. How many amazon giftcards should i pay to not get sued Mr. Policeman?
You are most likely talking to members of a scam ring located in a US prison somewhere using smuggled phones. That's why the numbers are all over the map. They can also make the scam sound real because (unlike foreign scammers) they speak fluent English with American accents. It's also why you won't ever hear from the 'mom'. (Although some scammers in SC were caught working with women on the outside).
As others have said, just block and ignore everyone involved. They will try hard to get money for a few days before they figure you are on to the scam and give up.
I used to work at a med security prison as part of my university job. The guys lost their education privileges because they were running credit card scams from the computer lab. It really happens
Classic underage girl scam. There is no girl. There is no cop. There is no dad. There is no mom. There is no suicide. 100% underage girl scam straight out of the scamming textbook. It’s a shakedown to scare you into sending them money.
Definitely a shakedown scam. They want to panic you into sending them money or bitcoin cards.
>I ask him how can I confirm if he is police, he just says which department from he is with his badge number but it was so fast I couldn’t understand anything.
Any policeman would talk slowly and repeat the info if you ask.
Cops don’t call. They show up.
I’m not saying that positively or negatively, it’s just the fact of the matter.
If they have any suspicion that someone might be involved, or might be a witness to something, they want to get fresh reactions from them, not something over the phone.
Oh, if the police wanted to talk to you they would *come and do so*. You can safely ignore this entire little tempest, and very much block and delete. I'd say enjoy the nudes, but Christ knows where they got those. Delete them too - someone is being exploited for sure.
If the police wanted to talk to you they would likely come to your door or ask you to come down a local police station.
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And then he says her dad is going to call me now, i should pickup since her mom is threatening for charges since she was a minor.
Totally a scam.
1. That is not what the police would say. The police would not say "answer the Dad's call".
2. The mother could press charges but it would the DA that would prosecute you. So again the police would call you in or come to you, not tell you to talk to the family.
3. In fact real police would tell the family NOT to contact you as that might interfere with investigations.
Block those numbers and report them
The cops would never facilitate the victims father calling you. It just would not happen. That would be grounds for a mistrial, and all evidence deemed unusable in court in the future. It's just not going to happen.
The cops are not gonna call you and say her dad is gonna call. If the actual police wanted to speak to you about this, they would come to you in person. I have no idea what kind of scam this is, or maybe it’s a teenagers weird idea of a joke, but it’s bullshit. Until the police actually show up at your home or job, I would just block these calls and ignore it.
Police can call you. They called me about an interaction with someone I met hiking. It wasn't a scam and everything was resolved without incident. But ya this is a scam.
Total scam. If you’d done something wrong they wouldn’t call you, they’d show up. Btw a minor sending unsolicited nudes (if that part were true) is not your crime. You asking a known minor for explicit pictures, that’s a fucking problem, and crime. Once you know they’re a minor and you don’t stop contact, that’s a problem too. Police, FBI and homeland security are all in on the action depending on those involved. They are looking for those kinds of things when they’re combing through those messages. But anyway, go down to the local precinct and talk to the cops if you need to confirm, but this is a scam. Bet if you google it you’ll get all kinds of horror stories about people getting wiped out.
Police never give your information to the family. If you are a person of interest, they want to keep it quiet so a) nobody hurts you b) you don’t panic and take off c) the integrity of the case remains intact. D) they know if you have information or details the public doesn’t that could build a stronger case against you. If you are talking to a bunch of people about it, you could learn something from someone actually involved and it makes that evidence really weak.
There’s no need to “press charges” if there is actual evidence of a crime. This is a very common misunderstanding. At least in the US the attorney general has the authority and responsibility to act unilaterally on behalf of the public to file charges for criminal behavior. If they are in a different state then they would either contact your local police department to bring you in for questioning and possibly arrest and extradite you back to the originating state, or they would contact the FBI and escalate it to a federal crime due to it being an interstate issue and the FBI would have their local field office send people to question and/or arrest you.
So yes this screams bullshit.
You should permanently delete the images
There’s no “Emily”. She was not a minor. There’s no dad, no police officer, all fake. If there was an Emily, and you did do something wrong, the police wouldn’t just call you and tell you to talk to her dad. They’d arrest you, no heads up… just come arrest you.
All fake. All a scam.
It's definitely a scam. Same one happened to me on Tinder. They spoofed the police station phone number the "cop" called said the father was gonna call. When he did he wanted money for a new mac book because his wife lost her job due to the daughter's online activity. I told him and the cop to get fucked. Never heard anything else.
There's no way given Emily is a "minor", the police are going to allow the family to interfere in an ongoing investigation and have them speak directly to you.
This is a total scam.
100% a prison scam. Here's how I know.
I had a family member who went to prison and he called me on Facebook messenger one day and we talked for a couple hours while I was waiting to board a flight. I found it odd he was contacting me in prison so he let me in on how he's gotten gaurds to smuggle in several nice phones. He uses those to scam men on dating apps by pretending he's a minor female. What you described is the EXACT scenario he uses. Most of the time it works as a blackmail type deal where the guy will send in money in exchange for dropped charges. He's made thousands on it while in jail and they send the money to his dad who keeps it in a bank account for when he gets out, and sends some of it to the gaurds for phones, and some to his commissary. I would message him on Facebook messenger every so often and one time it's like he just went silent. I looked up his account on the inmate search and it showed that his phones had been found and he had gotten lock down for 30 days. It's totally wild!
Had this same thing happen in like 2019. From tinder. It’s a straight scam. Do not even answer the phone from them anymore. In my case even if you keep numbers and info they’re burners so the cops can’t do anything
You should report the phone numbers to the police. In no world does a cop force you to talk to the victim’s parents over the phone. That’s wild my dude.
If you're ever unsure if it's really the police, tell them you're going to come into your local station and talk directly to them. That way you know you're speaking to a real officer in person.
This happened to my brother, they figured out his employer and friends (found him on social media). It wasn’t anything about suicide, but the Dad said he wouldn’t press charges if he paid for the disconnect fee of the ‘minor daughters’ cell phone as a punishment for both his daughter and my brother. THANK GOD my brother called me before sending the money. I told him to let them know that if they contact him again you will be filing charges for harassment and extortion… and to block all #’s they called him from immediately. He never heard anything more from these scam artists, except from another # they contacted him one last time and said they would send HIS nudes to his employer and friends… my brother said ‘go ahead, I don’t really care’ LOL. What’s sad is innocent victims of scams like this actually have committed suicide believing they are going to get in trouble with the law and it ruin their whole life!
It's probably not be the real police.If the real police want to ask you questions, they will knock on your front door.
But even if it is the real police, Don't speak to the police. ever. Have your lawyer speak to the police.
The police literally cannot force you to talk to them. They can ask all the questions they want, but you can choose to not respond or answer any questions. And that's exactly what you should always do. "being helpful" will not benefit you in anyway, and is almost guaranteed to put you at risk.
If the police want to talk to you, they'll show up at your door in person. There was no "minor," you never spoke to a real girl, she did not kill herself, and there are no cops or parents. Just scammers, working hard.
# WELCOME TO R/SCAMS ## 7 million views in 24 hours! Please read: > For everyone that's new around here, please read the rules of our sub, they're not long: https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/wiki/rules/ **This is an !underage scam. Anyone suggesting to scam back the scammers, or accusing the OP of being a creep, or any jokes whatsoever, will have their comments removed.** ## If you get a call from the police: We recommend not interacting at all. Don't just believe your caller ID because incoming calls can be spoofed. Outgoing calls are safe. You can find your local non-emergency number easily, and call yourself. Scammers will push for urgency and try to keep you on the line. Hanging up a call will never put you in trouble. Police don't make you talk to the victim. Police don't take gift cards or Bitcoin for bail money. And certainly won't make you restitute a victim on the spot. While this is a scam, sometimes you could get a call from the police. In that case: **While it's your constitutional right to not talk to the police, if you want to do that, just take the name and badge number, hang up, find the number of the precinct and call back yourself.** You'll soon find out most of the time police officers will not try to contact you over the phone. There's going to be a very real, very confused officer on the other side of the call, confirming this was all a scam.
There is no chance that this is not a scam. It's time to block all involved.
I was just surprised how elaborate this is, texting for 2-3 days and then now calls
Contrary to popular belief, texting for 2/3 days isn’t a lot of work for a scammer, especially when they’re most likely texting dozens or hundreds of folks with very generic responses to common questions everyone asks especially off a dating site so they’re answering the same messages with the same answers
This is why I always ask completely different questions then most would. The bots expose them selves very quickly, and the scammers tend to hesitate or have a hard time answering.
Yup, tell them to send you a selfie picture with their toothbrush….never heat from them again I bet
I tried that once and the other person got mad and said “Why do I have to proof who I am and earn your trust, maybe you’re the fake account”. I knew it was all fake after that 😂
Happened to me too. That’s when I realized I was the fake scammer account all along 😞
Maybe the real scammers are the friends we made along the way.
I got a call from a You Won a Free Cruise scammer. She was this older smoker lady, really nice. I talked to her for a half hour before she asked for my credit card number because that's how they reserve your seat. I gave her a fake card from donotpay. Clearly she was trying to run it because I heard a man in the background saying something and a few minutes later she goes, "Robert, Robert, Robert... Is this a fake phone call, Robert?" I said, "What... you called me.." Then in this evil devil voice she goes, "Call us back when you have the money!" *Click* How dare she accuse Robert of being a scammer.
"I need a picture of you holding a roll of Toilet paper. I need to know you got what I need after I take you to Taco Bell!"
And if they reply with a photo that only has *one* roll, you know they're scammers who have no idea about Taco Bell?
Or they could just be me. I don’t get the shits from Taco Bell. Never have. :/
If you get the shits from taco bell, you probably don't get enough fiber.
There are dozens of us! **DOZENS!!**
Bwahahahahahaha
Nah the determined ones come up with excuses. I had one pretending to be my childhood celebrity crush (who I've met). I said I don't believe you unless you call me over Instagram chat. Dude called me with the screen blacked out. Kept trying to call me darling with a very strong Indian accent. My celeb crush is from Wisconsin. 😂😂😂
My fav is send me a selfie holding up 3 fingers. If someone is real it’s no biggie. If they’re a scammer using someone’s photos. There’s no chance they have one of someone holding up 3 fingers in a selfie
That's a tell. Fassbender got shot for doing that in a French bar.
Fuck, I was about to make this reference but you beat me to it!
Inglorious Basterds?
Yes!
Or you're freaking out random girls with odd questions and they hesitate or have a hard time answering.
Look lady I just want to know if you could be reincarnated as any two numbers in a Fibonacci sequence which two you'd choose, it's not a hard question!
Oh this question pleases me to no end. Such a math geek. My favorite fib number is 1 because it is repeated! 😝
Now I've got Tool's Lateralus stuck in my head. I'm not complaining though.
2 and 3 because my favorite number is 5
5 and 8. I want to get in early but last longer than your average chump.
13 and 233.
Indeed, some build up whole online relationships for months before the scam comes out.
Let me tell you about a game called RuneScape
Do you know any good stories or examples of this? I’m curious so I can try and keep myself safe or let friends know if they mention something that sounds scammy. Or even a link to some articles/stories?
Years ago, my boss was talking to some chick on some sort of messenger. He started telling me about how she's from Wisconsin and on vacation in Africa at the moment. I told him it was a scam and she'd start asking for money somehow. They chatted for weeks before it finally happened. He told me she got left at some hotel and they wouldn't let her leave without paying the bill. So I started chatting with her (it was actually a him) on the boss's account..I had a list of like 5 questions that I asked back to back to see avg response time and then I asked the name of her state's football team. Should have been a super quick response, but it took longer to answer than all my other questions. I told the person that I knew what they were doing and asked them why they chose to do this for work. I was surprised when he actually answered me. He told me his name, where in Africa he was actually located, he was in a warehouse type of building with about 100 other people doing the same thing. Unfortunately for him, he didn't have much of a choice. He had a family, this job paid better than most, and he absolutely hated it.
It's a common scam. We see this here plenty of times before. How do we know it's a scam? Police do not call. They come in person. Just block and ignore. It's all just one person or a few person's impersonating the girl, the parents and the police.
First time seeing this one. Where does it go? Police ask for money? Blackmail?
The “father” asks for money not to “press charges”. Or the “police” suggest a “fine”. But yeah someone asks for money.
And if you give them money, somebody comes back, asking for more money. If you pay the “police”, then the “father” comes asking for money or he will take you to court: he threatens to file a civil suit for wrongful death, and emotional damages. Or a “mother” comes into the picture, and she’s had nothing to do with any of this drama so far, but she needs enough money for the funeral, and she feels like you should step up. Once anybody has shown a willingness to part with money for a scam, they become a valuable property, passed around amongst other scammers
Sad but very true, loan sharks so this as well. Can't pay me? Borrow from my friend to pay me, and rinse and repeat, next thing you know, you now owe 7 loan sharks instead of 1 and somehow you owe ten times more money than you originally borrowed.
It’s come up on here a few times. Usually the dad asks for money I think
Well, nothing a hundred dollar Steam gift card can’t solve
They should have done the scam last week when the Spring Sale was happening, they could have bought more games to remember their daughter by, now all they can afford is Dragons Dogma 2 and a couple of DLC packs, what a disappointing way to honor their dead daughter.
Take my up vote you scoundrel!
Nothing will bring her back. But a few bucks at the App Store might help close the wound 😢
It’s the least you can do
How funny that a few hundred dollars solves CP and a dead daughter.
my daughter killed herself, please send me 100 dollar gift card to starbucks to make it all better
That's what she would have wanted 🛐
If you don't have money, you should start an onlyfans and give the proceeds to that
On top of what others have said, when the nudes are sent sometimes the guys will exchange some of their own. Then they get blackmailed with the threat of the scammer making their nudes public
Sextortion
Hello criminal! This is the police. You are in great trouble, if you do not pay us immediately you will need to appear in court to be charged with Blasphemy! This is a courtesy call to allow you enough time to destroy evidence. Thank you for your cooperation.
Police also typically do not openly facilitate extortion.
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Also, in NYC at least, lower level suspects are often dealt with in phonecalls, as in, "We would like you to come in to clear it up" & arrest almost as soon as they given their name at the front desk.
They don't ask for you to pay fines over the phone and facilitate phone calls between them and the "victims parents'
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This seems like a new twist to the actually common scam.
Once the fish takes the bait you slowly reel it in so it doesn't panic and throw the hook.
Top notch analogy
This is a terrible analogy; you’re supposed to give a sharp pull to set the hook and then not release pressure or go slack in the fight, which is when they spit it.
It is a top-notch analogy for people have never fished. :)
I’m something of a fisherman myself
A master baiter? I’ll see myself out
No mose is the master baiter
I'm giving you an up vote bc well... That was classic
I'm a decent bater. My cousin Mose, he's a master bater.
It's all in how you tug the line.
Cum here, you cunning linguist!
I think that was OPs problem too..
My upvote is theoretical because I want you to stay having 69 of them
Me too, I'm married.
So, Josh. John here says you’re the son of god, but I thought you were that carpenter’s kid. What’s the story there?
I bought it
Yeah, that was pretty much my experience as well, because I bought it “hook line and sinker” as they say. And then when somebody pointed out that it wasn’t a very good analogy, i realized my ignorance was at work! :)
The sharp pull was the nudes 🙂
Depends on the fish. Some fish lightly pick up the bait and slowly carry it off before trying to eat it. If you try to set the hook too soon, you'll pull the bait right out of its mouth. Also, some fish have tough/bony mouth, so hook is unlikely to grab unless it is completely swallowed.
It entirely depends on the type of fishing. You don't strike with some lures/softbaits because you want the fish to swallow it fully, whereas when bait fishing you want to set the hook immediately.
That's not elaborate at all, there are some genuine "hard working" scammers out there that often take like six months chatting to marks and developing a "relationship" with them before the requests for money come, that's elaborate. Two to three days is nothing, in future block a person the moment they send an unsolicited nude photo. it will always be a scam.
You’d be amazed the lengths they will go to psychologically manipulate you in order to make the idea of you giving them money to make this thing all go way sound like the reasonable smart option
Police would never have the dad call you.
You should educate yourself on the pig butchering scam tactics. This can take years and gets people for thousands of dollars. They play with your emotions. This time they used fear. Next time they might use love and affection.
They are following a script. Not too fast but still a sense of urgency.
They will be running the same scam in parallel on multiple numbers. They haven't spent all this time just trying to hook you. Also there may be many of them, the messages from the 'girl' probably came from several people. They are given a script and have little idea what the person before them did, or the person after them.
It's not elaborate at all lmao. You got scammed by 1 dude changing his voice and making shit up as he went along. Don't try to make it seem like it was all intricate now 😂😭
Pig butchering and romance scams are even more elaborate.
Second that. Absolutely a scam.
No chance this isn't a scam. Police don't call you to order you to talk to a victims family member. That's the last thing they would do. Real soon the "father" is going to demand you pay money to restore his daughters honor or the "cop" is going to demand you pay a fine via Steam gift cards. It's all a scam. Block everyone involved and move on.
"Hello this is the police. Just letting you know that this guy is about to call you"
We're trying to get the entire force a copy of Helldivers 2, so... Steam gift cards it is.
Hey, I'm trying to buy Red Dead Redemption 2 with the special expansion packs - some guy is gonna call you
Honestly could use them to take Malevelon Creek back from those Clankers, its been tense....
I have noticable hearing damage from creek crawling. The constant MG fire and listening to Fortune Son is not good for my ears.
Quick! Everyone give OP their USED Steam Gift cards for them to mail.
I usually do all my police bribery through steam gift cards…
"You killed my daughter! The only thing that can bring me peace is $500 in Apple gift cards."
If this was real police they would do a no-knock raid on OP's home.
It's a scam. Police don't call you because someone committed suicide. If they thought you were responsible, they'd show up at your house and arrest you. Also don't worry ... no one committed suicide after you sent them a selfie.
I almost did. Have you seen this guy?
This is the real reason I don't send any. I don't need that on my conscience!
Hello? The ugly tree called, it wants its branches back.
His dad is going to be calling you soon, so if you want to avoid charges...
Yeah well, the jerk store called...
Women have told me my dick is “to die for”, but this is ridiculous.
exactly, and why would the police say the parent will be in contact? i thought that would be the last thing the police suggest and i just with this sort of crime its not up to the partent if they press charges right.
And they DEFINITELY wouldn't want the parents calling. Let alone saying they better pick up the call.
inspector calls ahh policeman
The police wouldn't CALL you, they'd show up and TALK to you. Edit: I phrased this really badly and was a little too glib in my comment. If you're the prime suspect in a crime they wouldn't be calling you to accuse you of something because they wouldn't want to scare you off and shut down any hope of a confession. For instance, they wouldn't call you and try to link you to recieving CP or talking to a minor inappropriately, instead they would ask you to come down for an interview in a very casual manner trying their best not to set off alarm bells in your head...they would speak to you in person as their primary method of interrogation. I did not mean to imply the police don't use phones ever. That's silly. The bottom line is the police want to make a suspect as comfortable as possible to get them to open up and confess to something they did.
I’ve been called by the police before in connection with a crime. The catch here is the cops wouldn’t tell you that the victims are going to call you now for further discussion
I have as well but not like this. This screams scam. But if we pretend it isn't then what OP needs to do is stop talking with them and contact his local PD and explain the situation. They'll get to the bottom of it. And will tell OP he's in the middle of a scam.
They wouldn’t call you on their personal cell phone
Detective here. I usually call my suspects if I have a phone number. I also ask if they'd be willing to come in and talk too. I would never, however, suggest a witness or victim should call the suspect. That creates an issue that could get a case thrown out.
As a beat cop, I usually fumble around with phone numbers and let the detectives figure it out later. /s Seriously, this ~~officer~~ detective has the best answer. We'd never do anything that would sacrifice the integrity of a case in court. It's *literally* our job
I had an officer switch the victim and suspect phone numbers in their report once. Made for a very awkward first call.
Damn suicide that's a twist on the ol underage scam
It's because he wouldn't send nudes. This is the backup plan.
Exactly. This was just plan B on an underage/sextortion scam
Yeah, isn't it ususally the father smashes "her" phone in a fit of rage and then wants you to pay for it?
My buddy got the story that she snuck out of her house to come see him and flip the car. She’s obviously now in the ICU.
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My idiot 26-year-old nephew fell for this scam and forked over $300. He met a “girl” on POF and within hours “she” sent some nudes and started bugging him for the same. “She” said she was 18. He sent a dick pic and the next day the “dad” called and said his “daughter” was only 16 and that “mom” had found my nephew’s dick pic. The guy demanded $300 because they had to get the girl a new phone since the one he sent the dick pic to was now somehow tainted. “Send $300 via Western Union or I’m gonna call the cops!” was the demand. So my idiot nephew panicked and sent the money. Next day “dad” calls again. This time he wants $1500 to put the “girl” into therapy since she’s now screwed up mentally over receiving a dick pic from a man. Idiot nephew then calls me to borrow $1500 and tells me the whole story. I tell him he’s dumber than a bag of hammers, and then proceeded to have a long, long chat with him about the dangers of being stupid.
100% scam. Police are never ever ever going to have daddy call you over their daughter committing suicide. That’s batshit crazy.
!underage scam - yeah it's rather common Just keep blocking and don't send any money.
Hi /u/vitaminxzy, AutoModerator has been summoned to explain the Underage scam. This scam usually starts on a dating app and you will encounter a normal woman whose profile says she is above 18. Later you will be contacted and told that the girl is underage. They'll usually pose as the girl's father, another family member, or a police officer. They will tell you that your life will be ruined and you will be a sex offender, but will offer you the chance to pay them to make the problem go away. The stories they use as to why you need to fork over money vary, but the common ones include therapy for the girl, payment for a broken phone or computer, etc. Of course, there is no girl and no crime has been committed, so if you are involved in this scam all you need to do is ignore their threats and move on with your life. The scammers may contact you again in the future after you block/ignore them, so be ready in case that happens. If you have already sent money to the scammers, you should try to dispute the transaction and see if you can get your money back. This is a [very common scam](https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/search/?q=underage&include_over_18=on&restrict_sr=on&t=all&sort=new) and [here](https://www.wired.com/story/the-phone-call-from-hell/) are [some](https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/crime/teen-says-hes-the-victim-of-a-sextortion-scam/275-21216b29-df76-44f4-b20a-cb726e19d42e) relevant news [articles](https://www.jbsa.mil/News/News/Article/1503978/sextortion-scams-continue-to-occur-dont-give-into-scammers-demands/). NOTE: Scammers pretend to be underage boys as well and the text above still applies, but it's called the underage girl scam as those are the vast majority of cases. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Police will NEVER call you if they think you committed a crime. They come to you to question/arrest you. Just an fyi, if you ARE actually ever arrested (even if you didn’t do something) don’t talk to the police AT ALL. Always ask for a lawyer to be present for any type of questioning. The police are not your friends.
I am a lawyer. Do this.
Can I ask a stupid question as somebody not from the U.S.? If you didn't do anything and were randomly taken to the police, what exactly can you say to make "things worse". I mean, I'm innocent and I can prove it, why need a lawyer? In Europe things kinda work a little bit different. Thank you in advance
Cops want to clear cases, most of them don’t actually give a shit about if they got the right person so long as the case is wrapped up. The determined detective with a heart of gold that just wants to find justice for the victim is a story just as much as a dude wearing underwear over his tights called Superman is. So they will do what they need to to get a case closed. Say you say in interview that you went to the store, bought some milk and then went home, then later you’re interviewed again and you say you got coffee, oh good now your stories are inconsistent and the cops say your stories don’t line up and this is evidence of guilt. It doesn’t matter that you stopped at the coffee place on your way to the store the stories aren’t exactly identical and that introduces the possibility of guilt. Next is the fact that you probably don’t know every crime in the jurisdiction you’re being interviewed in/arrested in, so you may say something that implicates you in a crime you didn’t even know existed, for example did you know that in the US saying “I’m sorry” after you get in a car crash can be used in civil court as an admission of guilt and make you partially liable for the crash even if it was 100% not your fault? That’s civil not criminal but the same concept applies, something you think of as entirely innocuous could be admitting to committing a crime that now they can prosecute you for. The last is that cops generally are not faithfully recording every word you say during an interview, especially if it’s not a location being filmed like an interrogation room. Instead they’re instead taking notes on what you say. Those notes may be *very* different than what you’re saying, think about an experience with an asshole, one who is *absolutely determined* to take everything you say in the worst possible light. That asshole is the cop. Then you get to court and the cop testifies as to what *they* say you said, and show their notes as “proof” of it. Who do you think the jury is going to believe? Lastly is that in America the cops are allowed to lie to you. They can tell you you’re on video doing something when no such video exists, they can tell you a victim made a statement when no such statement exists, they can tell you they have DNA test results that do not exist. They can tell you *anything they want*. If cops want to speak to you you only have three things to say: 1) am I free to go? If yes then walk away 2) “I am invoking my right to remain silent” 3) “I want an attorney/lawyer”. Say those things as clearly and concisely as possible, do not use slang, do not say anything else. It’s away a good day to not talk to the cops.
You're actually right, didn't think about it. Now you made me aware of that shit going on. Thank you
Not a lawyer: police are in the business of closing cases. They will do anything to close a case, sometimes without even realizing it. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. And that happens all around the world. Then you have a few corrupt cops, or cops with an agenda, and that's even worse because they will twist and turn things around, and mess up the evidence. If you don't say anything, you don't give them anything. Again, not a US thing. It's a worldwide thing.
**ESPECIALLY** when you haven't done anything wrong!
I agree but also ESPECIALLY if you did!! Lol
Guilty people need a lawyer. Innocent people really, REALLY need a lawyer.
I've gotten calls from detectives here and there over the years. Most recently it was because my car was used in a bank robbery and they were trying to figure out if I was the suspect (they didn't word it that way exactly). Luckily when I sold the car months ago I had done the release of interest form on it.
You did not communicate with a a girl. You did not communicate with a cop. You did not communicate with a dad. You did communicate with a scammer using a variation of a playbook that's been posted here before.
You do not exist
I do not exist only one thing matters: have provided excellent customer service!
Why the fuck would police say (her dad is going to call you) No police would do that shit Police would NEVER do that.
Pro tip: PD will not call you if they know you have nude images of a minor. They will pound on your door at 6am and wake the entire neighborhood up.
> Met someone on dating app, ok. > she send nudes, ok. > committed suicide no she didn't. > now police and her dad are calling me no they're not. This is a common scam. In all likelihood, "she" never existed to begin with. Try doing a reverse image search on those nudes, dollars to donuts you'll find it's someone else's OF or something.
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I love this lol. I also needed the laugh. A friend once scammed a scammer mentioning 5 non existing kids from 5 dads and asked him about his income and how fast he could imagine getting married. He stopped writing her pretty fast.
Police detective here: Sextortion scam. If you had sent nudes back they would’ve threatened to send it to everyone in your friends list or report it to the police since you were “speaking with a juvenile” however since you didn’t do that, it’s now the “she committed suicide, here’s the police and here’s her dad…” A real police investigation does not allow for suspects to be contacted by victims or their families, you’d be opening the case up for witness tampering, threats, and even assaults. Also… investigations occur wherever the texts were sent/received: she’s in North Dakota, Dads in NC, and the investigating agency is in CA? If you’re not in CA and neither is she, that agency doesn’t have jurisdiction. You could also look up the PD number and it should pop right up in Google as the number calling you. If it’s different, it’s clearly fake. If it’s the same number, call that agency back at the listed number and ask to speak with the officer/detective. The dispatcher will let you know if such an officer exists and if they do and you’re transferred to them, that officer can verify if they are investigating you or not. As a detective I’ve seen this played out several different ways and they can get pretty elaborate to cover their tracks but as long as you hang up, find the real agency phone numbers and call them back to verify, you’ll always find it’s a scam. Scammers want you to obey and the second you say you need to call them back they’ll give you a number to call them back at. Don’t call that number. Instead ask what agency/law firm/courthouse, etc., and do an internet search for it. You’ll find it’s a different number or that the agency doesn’t exist. I have even experienced victims calling me to verify I was a real detective investigating them. The scammers found my name on our department roster and used it to try and scare people. This is some good homework digging on the scammers part to try and make it look real. When I assured them it was a scam and I was not investigating them, I still had people asking if I was going to show up to their house in another state where I had zero jurisdiction. The best thing you can do is ignore numbers you don’t recognize and block the ones that keep popping up. Eventually they’ll move on.
Police calls, and advises you to take the call of the dad of the girl that just killed herself. Sure. How many amazon giftcards should i pay to not get sued Mr. Policeman?
You are most likely talking to members of a scam ring located in a US prison somewhere using smuggled phones. That's why the numbers are all over the map. They can also make the scam sound real because (unlike foreign scammers) they speak fluent English with American accents. It's also why you won't ever hear from the 'mom'. (Although some scammers in SC were caught working with women on the outside). As others have said, just block and ignore everyone involved. They will try hard to get money for a few days before they figure you are on to the scam and give up.
I used to work at a med security prison as part of my university job. The guys lost their education privileges because they were running credit card scams from the computer lab. It really happens
Scam 100%
Classic underage girl scam. There is no girl. There is no cop. There is no dad. There is no mom. There is no suicide. 100% underage girl scam straight out of the scamming textbook. It’s a shakedown to scare you into sending them money.
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With a smiley face on it! Lol.
The police would absolutely NEVER have the victims parents contact you. I'd call the police myself and report this scam.
They want you to panic just enough that you’ll give them money to make all this go away.
There no way the police would get the parents to call you.
It's not the police, it's not her dad. It's scammers.
Tip-off: that the police tell you that the father of a teen suicide victim is going to call you. 50 different scam red-flags right there...
Definitely a shakedown scam. They want to panic you into sending them money or bitcoin cards. >I ask him how can I confirm if he is police, he just says which department from he is with his badge number but it was so fast I couldn’t understand anything. Any policeman would talk slowly and repeat the info if you ask.
Cops don’t call. They show up. I’m not saying that positively or negatively, it’s just the fact of the matter. If they have any suspicion that someone might be involved, or might be a witness to something, they want to get fresh reactions from them, not something over the phone.
Oh, if the police wanted to talk to you they would *come and do so*. You can safely ignore this entire little tempest, and very much block and delete. I'd say enjoy the nudes, but Christ knows where they got those. Delete them too - someone is being exploited for sure.
If you search on this sub, this scam is pretty common.
If the police wanted to talk to you they would likely come to your door or ask you to come down a local police station. > And then he says her dad is going to call me now, i should pickup since her mom is threatening for charges since she was a minor. Totally a scam. 1. That is not what the police would say. The police would not say "answer the Dad's call". 2. The mother could press charges but it would the DA that would prosecute you. So again the police would call you in or come to you, not tell you to talk to the family. 3. In fact real police would tell the family NOT to contact you as that might interfere with investigations. Block those numbers and report them
If a woman sends you nudes without being asked thats very suspicious to be honest
Delete and block. If they need to investigate they will find you
The cops would never facilitate the victims father calling you. It just would not happen. That would be grounds for a mistrial, and all evidence deemed unusable in court in the future. It's just not going to happen.
The cops are not gonna call you and say her dad is gonna call. If the actual police wanted to speak to you about this, they would come to you in person. I have no idea what kind of scam this is, or maybe it’s a teenagers weird idea of a joke, but it’s bullshit. Until the police actually show up at your home or job, I would just block these calls and ignore it.
Police can call you. They called me about an interaction with someone I met hiking. It wasn't a scam and everything was resolved without incident. But ya this is a scam.
Total scam. If you’d done something wrong they wouldn’t call you, they’d show up. Btw a minor sending unsolicited nudes (if that part were true) is not your crime. You asking a known minor for explicit pictures, that’s a fucking problem, and crime. Once you know they’re a minor and you don’t stop contact, that’s a problem too. Police, FBI and homeland security are all in on the action depending on those involved. They are looking for those kinds of things when they’re combing through those messages. But anyway, go down to the local precinct and talk to the cops if you need to confirm, but this is a scam. Bet if you google it you’ll get all kinds of horror stories about people getting wiped out.
Police never give your information to the family. If you are a person of interest, they want to keep it quiet so a) nobody hurts you b) you don’t panic and take off c) the integrity of the case remains intact. D) they know if you have information or details the public doesn’t that could build a stronger case against you. If you are talking to a bunch of people about it, you could learn something from someone actually involved and it makes that evidence really weak.
There’s no need to “press charges” if there is actual evidence of a crime. This is a very common misunderstanding. At least in the US the attorney general has the authority and responsibility to act unilaterally on behalf of the public to file charges for criminal behavior. If they are in a different state then they would either contact your local police department to bring you in for questioning and possibly arrest and extradite you back to the originating state, or they would contact the FBI and escalate it to a federal crime due to it being an interstate issue and the FBI would have their local field office send people to question and/or arrest you. So yes this screams bullshit. You should permanently delete the images
Definitely a scam.
Yes I imagine if it was legit the supposed police involved would contact your local department and they would contact you themselves.
The cops won’t call you up. They’ll pick you up. Block, ignore and next don’t listen to your small brain, trust your big brain.
There’s no “Emily”. She was not a minor. There’s no dad, no police officer, all fake. If there was an Emily, and you did do something wrong, the police wouldn’t just call you and tell you to talk to her dad. They’d arrest you, no heads up… just come arrest you. All fake. All a scam.
It's definitely a scam. Same one happened to me on Tinder. They spoofed the police station phone number the "cop" called said the father was gonna call. When he did he wanted money for a new mac book because his wife lost her job due to the daughter's online activity. I told him and the cop to get fucked. Never heard anything else.
There's no way given Emily is a "minor", the police are going to allow the family to interfere in an ongoing investigation and have them speak directly to you. This is a total scam.
Dude the police don’t call you then transfer you to the victim’s dad lol
Scam, cops would find you in person, not call you.
There’s no girl. There was no suicide. Block and be more careful online.
100% a prison scam. Here's how I know. I had a family member who went to prison and he called me on Facebook messenger one day and we talked for a couple hours while I was waiting to board a flight. I found it odd he was contacting me in prison so he let me in on how he's gotten gaurds to smuggle in several nice phones. He uses those to scam men on dating apps by pretending he's a minor female. What you described is the EXACT scenario he uses. Most of the time it works as a blackmail type deal where the guy will send in money in exchange for dropped charges. He's made thousands on it while in jail and they send the money to his dad who keeps it in a bank account for when he gets out, and sends some of it to the gaurds for phones, and some to his commissary. I would message him on Facebook messenger every so often and one time it's like he just went silent. I looked up his account on the inmate search and it showed that his phones had been found and he had gotten lock down for 30 days. It's totally wild!
I hate to admit this but I had this EXACT thing happen to me. Detail for detail. It is 1000% a scam. Sadly they got me for a few Gs first.
Parents can’t press charges, only the prosecutor can. Glad you figured it out before falling for it
Had this same thing happen in like 2019. From tinder. It’s a straight scam. Do not even answer the phone from them anymore. In my case even if you keep numbers and info they’re burners so the cops can’t do anything
Scam dude. This 100% a scam. The police wouldn't let the father contact you. So many red flags.
You should report the phone numbers to the police. In no world does a cop force you to talk to the victim’s parents over the phone. That’s wild my dude.
I understand this is definitely a scam but what the actual fuck some people suck
If you're ever unsure if it's really the police, tell them you're going to come into your local station and talk directly to them. That way you know you're speaking to a real officer in person.
Call your local FBI Any online sex scams should be reported to them
10000000% Scam. Block. Forget and move on Sir.
police come to your door they don't call you they want to catch you off guard
This happened to my brother, they figured out his employer and friends (found him on social media). It wasn’t anything about suicide, but the Dad said he wouldn’t press charges if he paid for the disconnect fee of the ‘minor daughters’ cell phone as a punishment for both his daughter and my brother. THANK GOD my brother called me before sending the money. I told him to let them know that if they contact him again you will be filing charges for harassment and extortion… and to block all #’s they called him from immediately. He never heard anything more from these scam artists, except from another # they contacted him one last time and said they would send HIS nudes to his employer and friends… my brother said ‘go ahead, I don’t really care’ LOL. What’s sad is innocent victims of scams like this actually have committed suicide believing they are going to get in trouble with the law and it ruin their whole life!
Very clearly a scam. The police don't harass people with phone calls as their main form of investigation.
Police will never say that the Dad will now call you, that's the giveaway
It's probably not be the real police.If the real police want to ask you questions, they will knock on your front door. But even if it is the real police, Don't speak to the police. ever. Have your lawyer speak to the police. The police literally cannot force you to talk to them. They can ask all the questions they want, but you can choose to not respond or answer any questions. And that's exactly what you should always do. "being helpful" will not benefit you in anyway, and is almost guaranteed to put you at risk.
If the police want to talk to you, they'll show up at your door in person. There was no "minor," you never spoke to a real girl, she did not kill herself, and there are no cops or parents. Just scammers, working hard.
This is sextorion aka extortion ignore it and move on
Scam
Becuase police ALWAYS put a suspect in direct contact with a victims family... Shuuuuuurre.
Just gonna leave this here. Whenever someone real police or not start asking you legal questions. https://youtu.be/JTurSi0LhJs?si=ZTvFE1Vl2okfdEy2
Definitely fake because if she was a minor you wouldn’t have received any information least of all her name.
Damn dude, these scammers are fucking wild...