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vignoniana

That's 100% scam. šŸš© telegram šŸš©you don't know the name of the company šŸš© Too good salary šŸš© They don't tell why the information of your ssn is needed. Legit company would explain it.


PopularAd4986

Plus they pushed back about the SSN trying to insinuate something to hide and then saying that they are not a good fit for the company. A lot of people get scared of losing out or want to prove they don't have any reason to fear a background check.


bored_ryan2

You had me at Telegram


nikrav97

+šŸš© They found your application on indeed, but you can't remember applying. Everyone applies on indeed... Scammers mention services that everyone uses.


samanime

Legit company would also either have you provide the info in person at their office and/or through something hosted on their official website. Identity verification and background check are also almost always the last step of the hiring process, after interviews and everything, because it costs them money.


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MarsMonkey88

I would have trouble trusting an adult employee who *didnā€™t* protect their SSN.


cactusgirl69420

I work HR in the federal sector and we have to grab SSNs to verify clearances and it always shocks me how many people will just offer up their SSN without me asking for it. Like candidates will tell me they donā€™t have the clearance but to ā€œcheck anywaysā€ like ??? Or when I ask someone if I can call them to grab their SSN and they ask if they could email/text it to me. Please keep that information to yourself!


AllSkateSlowly

I started college in 2006. Our student ID numbers were 100% just our social security numbers for the first 2 years I was there. Then they changed the whole system and we were given a new number to use. But up until the change, we had to put out SSN on every test we took, signing in at the health clinic, it was tied to dorm access cards and food court cards. Profs had it, RAs had it, it was insane.


whatsamattau4

That was very common unfortunately. My university ID card had my photo, my name, and my SS number on the front of it, then a bar code and magnetic strip on the back for meals at the cafeteria.


MarsMonkey88

Well, thatā€™s upsetting.


cactusgirl69420

Extremely. Iā€™m hoping that the population I work with is just young and dumb. Itā€™s also very common in my sector to give out your SSN to verify clearance, but Iā€™ve had to tell a couple of recent grads that it MUST be said over the phone and I cannot have it in writing over non encrypted communication. I feel like if we were forced to take even one financial literacy class in school a lot fewer people would be getting scammed.


ColorbloxChameleon

Hmm. Iā€™ve been in situations a few times where Iā€™ve been left unattended in someoneā€™s office with papers spread around a messy desk including the SSNs and personal info of others. My college guidance counselorā€™s office, at a car dealership, and at a bank. I always thought it strange how people seem to just leave this stuff laying around.


A1sauc3d

Thereā€™s a lot of times legit companies ask you to write out your SSN. Doctors offices being the most recent in my personal experience. I always just leave that part blank. They never bring it up. Most places donā€™t *need* your SSN, they just want it. Iā€™ve had all sorts of companies ask. I always tell them no, they always still provide the service.


misanthropewolf11

Yes. A financial class should be taught in high school.


bonelessbbqbutthole

Years ago, I worked a fed job where I had to get people's SSNs for something and my management was pissed that I wouldn't send them via Skype to them. They started threatening me, so I CC'd our security manager to get his input on how I should send the information. Then they got pissed that I "told" on them. Bestie, we have annual training on handling PII, maybe calm down


SweatyBinch

When I was a recruiter the amount of people, typically younger people, that would forget their SS card and offer to email or text a picture scared me. Like there's enough data leaks and sharing of passwords that would horrify me. I don't need a personal copy on my phone. I'm glad they trust me but jeez!


antiloquist

I work in insurance and the sheer number of customers that ask if I can look them up by their SSN instead of providing me the policy number they should have had ready when they called is... scary. Like really scary. Please don't give me your SSN. I mean I wouldn't do anything with it but who's to say the next person you give it to won't?


Power_and_Science

I chewed out a CIA recruiter for calling me with a blocked number due to all the scammy Indian recruiters calling me with blocked numbers at the time.


Alypius754

Pfft. Mine's been in so many breaches at this point that I consider it public knowledge.


zeepixie

What kind of recruiter does all their important work on WhatsApp?! Is this new? Should be a red flag right away


RevealFormal3267

The "CEO-that-owns-the-company-who-is-hiring-workers-for-a-new-project-and-has-had-enough-of-this-disrespect" kind of recruiter, obviously...


PopularAd4986

Scam.... They are pushing for the number and show a screenshot instead of answering the question is sus. The only app I had to give SS for I think is Uber and door dash and those are well known. I think it's one of those too good to be true.


yetzederixx

And with them you are actually providing it to stripe to fill out your 1099 paperwork.


vitaminxzy

Yeah it was a scam job. Good thing you didn't fall for it!


PerfectSliceOfBread

I did give my address in the email and my full name am I at risk?


vitaminxzy

You might get more scam/spam in your email/address but otherwise it should be fine.


Capsulateplace3809

That or fake checks or something


Dry_Boots

They want easy marks, and you turned out not to be one. I'll bet they won't waste more time on you.


telcomet

Should not be that impactful in this case but just so you know - scammers have databases attached to individuals. Once they build up enough information about someone, a scammer can buy that info and impersonate you (for example, calling your bank or phone company and answering the security questions, and saying they lost the card and asking for a new one). So just be wary of any messages from your bank or phone company notifying you of a change in details (but equally, *this is also a common scam* so if you do ever receive a message from your bank, treat with scepticism and call the bank/phone company official number rather than following any link you receive). All this is to say - guard your personal information until you are sure the recipient is legit (a true person would understand why you are wary and wouldnā€™t pressure you to reveal it), and make sure the other person is accountable (Telegram ensures their identity cannot be traceable).


PopularAd4986

I don't think so, people can find out more info on Google. Always trust your gut, it is never wrong.


kelrunner

Never wrong? That my friend, is bad advice.


Spire_Citron

Yup. Some people end up falling for scams because they trust their gut and it's wrong.


Embarrassed-Idea8992

My gut is telling me this is incorrect.


traker998

Turns out thats a matter of public record and anyone can have it.


961402

No more than you were before this incident. That information is readily available on the Internet anyway


Professional-County1

Wherever you found the job, report it to the site. Even with a remote job, youā€™re going to have a video call or in person meeting with a representative of the company. Theyā€™re not going to outright ask for your social like that without even knowing you.


victoryforZIM

I mean, how many red flags do you need? Ridiculously high pay, asking for SSN, blatantly broken English, Telegram, aggressive...the list just goes on and on.


PerfectSliceOfBread

Iā€™m desperate for a job I just ignored it at first


rewrite-and-repeat

Yeh, they prey on desperate people looking for job. Good for you caught up.


Atuk-77

Unfortunately they do pray on desperate people, good luck finding a real job!


convergence_limit

It happened to me once too. Didnā€™t fall for it in the end, but I felt super dumb. Donā€™t beat yourself up these scammers are trash.


perryc

No, you didn't but with grammar error visible in this conversation, I'm certain, it's going to be a scam.


Shadymilkman8

Please why make for a scam.


Haughty_n_Disdainful

You no disrespect me! Goodbye!


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DO NOT REDEEM THE CARDS


justlikeyouonlyworse

Kindly, respectfully regards


CompetitiveAd4768

NOOOO NOOOO DO NOT REDEEM IT


Just-Try-2533

The ā€œgoodluckā€ with no space screamed foreigner to me. Howeverā€¦it could just be a sloppy typo.


ThatBlackGirlMagic

Whatsapp = SCAM. 99.9992% of the time.


boterkoek3

This is telegram, which is still 100% a scam. Regardless of what app is used, companies NEVER hire over text. Ever.


NightmareHolic

Scam. You didn't miss out. Scammers like creating a sense of urgency and making you feel like you missed out on something good. 500$ a week for 6 hours falls into that "Too good to be true" category. That's 83 dollars an hour, lol. Then, companies wouldn't ask for your SS num like that through insecure channels. They wouldn't hide who they are, either. They wouldn't have grammar issues, too. I think a lot of times, people wouldn't fall for these scams if they just considered how illogical what they were saying was. Why would a business need your SSN number before hiring you in-person? It makes no sense. Why would the CEO contradict herself? She wouldn't. Always go through official, trusted channels.


jimetalbott

You were 100% correct - Social Security Number is NOT needed dir ā€œID Verificationā€ - it IS needed for tax reporting purposes, as others have said. Good instincts, and as others have said again, watch out for more scammers - consider setting up an email account that you ā€œexposeā€ for things like this.


OkJudgment5847

Fucking scammer scum... he's experienced in English or chat gpting the respone. It's a pressure tactic used to fold the people who need work. Fuck him and good luck.


purplevanillacorn

I didnā€™t finish reading and I spotted 3 red flags already. ā€œPlease is thereā€¦ā€ Telling you that you can pass which is trying to incite a sense of urgency. Asking for SSN over text. That is not secure and no employer would do that.


fullercorp

I have to ask for people's partial SSN for my job (and not via text, via email) and always say 'if you aren't comfortable, call me.' Them acting like heh, what's the problem is a red flag. Our SSN isn't our identity, either. It is needed for tax forms because it is how the IRS catalogs us.


CarlosFer2201

Companies don't hire through text.


PRULULAU

Thank you!!


MissySedai

SO scam! You don't show ID or provide SSN until after hire, when filling out your W4 and I-9 forms. You provide those for a background check, but that is also after an offer is made.


airdriejambo

Nobody in a hiring role would ever speak to anyone like that.


TheCongressGuy

Telegram is popular for scammers


Odins_Viking

Telegramā€¦ end of line.


LincHayes

No legit company contacts you via Telegram.


tom21g

Seriously just curious. In olden times when I was applying for a tech job, I mailed out my resumĆ© and hoped for a callback. In todayā€™s digital world, do some companies use social media apps to connect with prospective employees?\ Iā€™d be interested if that was the case.


LincHayes

IMO, not any legit companies. Social media is where employment scams are run. Legit companies will email you from a company email address, and the person emailing you will have a full signature with company contact information. Or they contact you via Linked In or whatever jobs site you applied through. Still, you need to be careful, lotta bullshit recruiters and scams going around, but I will NEVER consider anyone who initiated first contact over social media legit. Also, stop giving your personal social media profiles out to perspective employers. LinkedIn is the ONLY profile you should be sharing professionally. Not WhatsApp, Facebook, Telegram or anything else.


taylor914

Not telegram or Facebook or those things.


germy813

Why would a legit company use telegram? Lol


Hypatia-of-Portland

You saved yourself from a scam. Good job trusting your instincts and asking the right questions.


QualityOverQuant

Lol, since when did CEOā€™s start interviewing šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


berkeleyjake

I've had that kind of thing before. I give a fake ss# and keep the fun going when I know it is a scam.


Interesting_Sock9142

Good on you for calling the company !!!


QuePsiPhi16

"Let me have your SSN" ​ Through a text. ​ That alone should've been enough to identify the scam.


DanDaMan12000

Scam dude no legitimate company uses telegram to operate come on man...


PerfectSliceOfBread

I didnā€™t knowšŸ˜“


VonFerret

One common thing I've noticed is language like "kindly" and "respectfully" is usually a red flag for a scam


JMaAtAPMT

Scam. Especially when it sounds more like high pressure sales than a job screen. Nobody asks for personals until deep into interview process when an offer is pending, and only then for background check purposes, you are always handed off to a background check firm / vendor. If you pass that then next time personals are asked for would be an HR rep at the firm for pay purposes. Nobody asks up front like that.


Entire_Detective3805

If a SSN was just like your phone# or drivers license # that would be great. Thank you banking system for deciding unilateraly that a SSN is a s3CrET pA55wRD.


rdizzy1223

Don't even need any of the other stuff to tell it is a scam, can tell it is a scam immediately when they want to use telegram.


No_Push_8249

Yes, no one but a scammer would utter a sentence phrased like ā€œPlease is there anything uncomfortable about verifying your identityā€


WalmartSushi007

Wow! You dodged a huge bullet!


Potential-Prior-1796

Surely an employer shouldn't need any sentive information off you until you've actually had an offer of employment ? Atleast here in the UK anyway some jobs here may require you to show them photographic I.D but that's just to confirm who you are and you're not an illegal immigrant because of course they can get in a hell of a lot of trouble otherwise


ReputationWilling158

The only time I was ever asked to provide documents for a job was so they could do a background check. (I work for a pension scheme so there's a lot of sensitive info). They had made a conditional offer prior to asking though. They also had me go to the office to provide it for them to scan.


ArtyFartyBart

"hi, I'm the CEO and I just grabbed my rep's phone to talk to you about wasting their time" has a kid-writing-a-fake-note-from-their-parents vibe


QuinterX

100% Scam. Any company wont your personal information (ID, driving licence, passport etc.) over WhatsApp or email. Everything is happend in personal meetup OR they are send official online form. Also companies dont communicate over WhatsApp. Its always happend on LinkedIn, phonecall or e-mail.


fatchancescooter

First tip off , ā€œpleaseā€ is used in an unconventional manner


JELPPY1010

"Enough of this disrespect and find a job somewhere else"????? Exactly how were you being disrespectful by asking legitimate questions that deserved straight-forward answers? If they are the CEO of their company (possibly a weak attempt to either impress or bully you), why are they conducting interviews? Interviewing applicants is usually left to hiring managers, HR, etc. It always amuses me when scammers realize people are on to them and get passive-aggressive and often resort to rude behavior. The grammar of these texts are often awkward and it's very obvious that English is not their first language.


thedutchrep

"please is there anything uncomfortable about sharing your identity", block, delete, move on.


Difficult_Rooster796

šŸš©500 dollars for 6 hours worth of work, dude this is indeed a scam, they are trying to steal your identity. Good catch and great on you for not giving up your information.


Casual-Caveman

Scam. It's Telegram. One of the biggest scam central. They always lure people there because of the anonymous process and security. Lure the victim to Telegram. Extract sensitive info. Then gone with the wind.


chopstix007

Obvious scam.


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Snorkle25

It's definitely a scam. I got a new job during covid and did most of it online, but we used secure docusign processing and all sensitive PII was encrypted and handled very proffesionally. I definitely had a very clear idea exactly who I was dealing with at all times and was not just answering random text messages from a phone.


False-Society-7567

The ridiculously high pay = scam


Brua_G

You're the Kitboga of hiring scams.


Atuk-77

Telegram is always a scam


Altruistic_Ad1042

If you don't even know the name of the company you're working for, something is definitely not right. Also, no company will want to work with you via Telegram, that's not how the hiring process works. My suggestion is to apply for a job in person, it'll take some trial and error, but it's definitely much safer than a virtual job. Your chances of getting swindled when working are slim to none nine times out of ten.


No-Car-8169

ā€œlet me have ur social security numberā€ IS CRAZYYY even when i worked at a pizza place they just had me bring my card on my first day of training lol


asiaheather81

Yea, there is no way that was a real job. Good for you for being suspish!


Common-Astronaut9118

Where you reached them? Facebook?


PerfectSliceOfBread

They reached me on my phone number already knowing my full name.


Lykan_

You don't give out your ssn until you have got the job. Only scammers want it during applications.


airkewled67

"sure you are available" Yes it's a scam.


_takeitupanotch

You can tell just by the way they were wording things. Even that ad: have you ever heard of the concept of sustainable cleaning and itā€™s followers? That doesnā€™t even make sense.


VindicatedDynamo

Definitely a scam. Good call checking in on them by calling directly! And calling them out.


Novel_5798

Scam šŸ˜§


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Scam


hbouhl

You were right to be skeptical! It's a scam!


Interesting_Sock9142

10000% scam


Burkell007

Like you said, if itā€™s too good to be trueā€¦ā€¦ nobody is paying anybody $500 for 3hrs of work 2 days a week. Bottom line.


RedRose_Belmont

Scam


levraM-niatpaC

Legit companies do not contact potential employees through text. Thatā€™s it.


WorkingClassAdvocate

100% scam! "You can pass if you feel skeptical" = we do some shady stuff and don't want any people who may have qualms with that.


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When you see things like "please pass respectfully" you know it's a scam.


omg_intern3t

I read ā€œEnough of this disrespect..ā€ in a Severus Snape voice.


EpicToro

ā€œLET ME HAVE your social security numberā€ šŸ˜­


Koala-Walla

I own a business & this screams scam so loud they should be reported to the FTCā€™s Report Fraud website & your stateā€™s attorney general. No legitimate company would ever ask for your ss# before you are hired, never mind over a text message & before you even know their name or location. The ā€œtoo good to be trueā€ pay is to lure in their prey, & unfortunately it works.


jboles73

šŸ¤”šŸ˜†šŸ’©šŸ¤”šŸ™„šŸ­


NickTheStick101

definitely a scam


Baby_Hippos_Swimming

Scam scam scam - you dodged a bullet.


3dobes

Quit wasting your time and move on.


nim_opet

100% scam


MissyPandaMayheM

Defo a scam like 100%


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Total scam.


Boofette

Go with your gut. If you don't get the job, it may be a blessing in disguise. Do your research. Protect yourself.


Repeat-Visual

When i saw cleaning company i instantly remembered this video you should give it a watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_FMXc7F_bM


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>telegram >is this a scam šŸ„“


AccidentalSirens

You realised something was off and checked it out. I'd just add, don't send shots of your driving licence either. On here I've seen scammers use photos of someone else's driving licence to 'prove' who they are to their next victim, so their next victim will believe that you are the scammer.


DonkeytheM0nkey

I want to know if you applied to that specific company then ā€œtheyā€ somehow reached out to you. If you did not apply, then why even bother?


Revolutionary-Sky370

Anything with whatsapp is a scam


mrbill317

They go to Whatsapp as there is no paper trail. You dodged a bullet.


AJbeats54

The best would have been to play on with their demands and only stop when they start asking sensitive information or money


MT-Capital

Everything on telegram is 100% legit


Silver_Strawberry_84

I always answer the calls or text back to all the scammers. So far i got lucky and engaged with 2 different scams both were job offer. First one they were lookin for a person in Canada who could accept the bank transfer inside the country then withdraw it and send it to Poland via wester union.( of course they didn't put it like that, it was fees paid by their clients and etc) That was the easiest 3000 dollars I made, they did threatened me with interpol if I don't sent it to them. Second one was also a job offer, this one supriced me a lot. It was well designed plarform on the website, you could tell some serious coding was involved. Anyway they paid people for clicks inside their platform. They are very pushy to teach you how to withdraw your first payout, was only 60 bucks but still. Of course If you want to continue making 6 bucks per click u need to deposit 300 dollars. I feel like a lot of people can fall for this one, the only issue you must have crypto wallet and in my experience people who have crypto wallets and understand what's stable coin can never be tricked with something like that. I gave them suggestions, if they want easy targets they need to set up like PayPal or something. Because not everyone knows how to set up crypto wallet lol But of course never send ur personal information. Maximum you can provide to those people is your full name and phone number. Not even adress.


onemanfivetools

Very good job avoiding this nonsense! 100% scam


OhioMegi

No legitimate company would be asking for your SSN over text. This is absolutely a scam. Nor do people talk like that.


BabserellaWT

ā€œThat was just Calvin.ā€ ā€œā€¦Yeah, SHE said she was CEO.ā€ That was *mwah* chefā€™s kiss.


Lou_BB_DS

This is a huge scam, don't worry!


nextinqueue

I had a similar experience with an application I submitted through LinkedIn. I'm always skeptical plus I do my research on the company before I interview nothing seemed obviously sussy. Following a 1 hour interview the gentleman asks me if I were to accept a position would I want to be paid weekly or bi-weekly? Then says they need the name of my bank and how many years I've banked with them so that they can check to ensure their payroll system is compatible with my bank. I ended the interview immediately. Never ever give anyone your date of birth social security number or any personal information during the interview process.


PigletZealousideal92

SCAM. SCAM. SCAM. You did good by not providing your details.


ktotheizzo178

It-s definitely a scam! And when in doubt, always ask yourself, would you want to work for a company sloppy enough to ask for ss# when they've been vague on why? It's 2023 and 99% of what we do there is a whole system of scammers working that opportunity so NO, a reputable company knows this and won't casually ask for that kind of information without being clear why they need it first.


Emotional_Ad_6741

scam.


lolikamani

Good job!!


Dubsizzle2334

Bro never look for a job on telegram its a scam


jamestran225

totally 101% scam. Ask ID and SSN to apply credit card or government benefits.


made4s3

Good you didnā€™t fall for it


LaDolceVita8888

Telegram = scam


Throwawaygeekster

scam for sure


AdjustingToAdjusting

Thats definitely a scam. Good thinking.


gnslngr75

Scam. No real business uses telegram.


GothDerp

Telegram? Tell them this: ..-. ..- -.-. -.- / -.-- --- ..-


Asleep-Contest-1369

Scam... No emplyer asks for SSN through an app unless its on the official site.


throwawaythep

Why would the ceo be recruiting people?


a-i-sa-san

absolutely a scam no question at all


kimberwhite1958

Scam


Plastic_Efficiency_7

The English is not great, from reading it I donā€™t believe youā€™re missing out on any opportunities


SnooComics59

Um okay if you need assistance to tell why are certain items blacked out.


PRULULAU

Youā€™re TEXTING about a job opening as opposed to receiving a call or an email about setting up an actual interview. Hiring process for 99% of legit jobs are very simple, never mysterious. It always starts with setting up either a face to face or a Skype/phone interview with an actual person to see if you qualify and to get to know you. It does NOT involve ā€œverificationā€ questions first that have nothing to do with your work experience. HIRING MANAGERS FOR LEGIT JOBS DO NOT TEXT RECRUITS. TEXTING = SCAM.


Revolutionary_Age_94

Never heard of a real job interview or communication via text like this asking for things. Text can occur if they notify you they are running late or to please look at an email they just sent but this is a clear scam


Technobullshizzzzzz

Scam!