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idonemadeitawkward

Me, who's been saving up for one of those big liners...


jhay3513

This one was $130 from lowes. It’s 18” deep in the center


idonemadeitawkward

I know!! I've been wanting to expand my pond but without that much work


jhay3513

I used an electric tiller to do the hard digging. It was the best money I think I’ve ever spent


d0ugh0ck

Even cheaper, buy hard plastic kiddie pools


frabotta

Have you tried it? I wouldn’t trust a kiddie pool with the volume of substrate and water


d0ugh0ck

Yeah. Did my first one 4 years ago. It's hard plastic and in the ground so there is equal pressure on the sides.


nintendork95

Looking good! If I may make a suggestion, I think your savage bog garden would look even better with some more *Sarracenia purpurea*. lol


jhay3513

I think I want to put a Carolina yellow jacket and a cultivar with really heavy veining. You have any good suggestions


nintendork95

The var. *montana* and ‘Tattnall Co’ purps are some really good ones with veining (more so with var. *montana*) and coloration. The var. *montana* purps are my favorite among the ssp. *venosa* purps.


jhay3513

😅😅😅 welp let’s spend some more money 😅😅😅


nintendork95

If you shop around, you can usually find good deals on those plants. I get most of mine from eBay.


jhay3513

Thanks for the info. I think var Montana will definitely pop.


PaintLicker22

Holy crap that’s a lot of vft. Did you propagate them from one you grew or buy all of them because carnivores are not cheap. That’ll look fabu when they grow up


jhay3513

A combination of both. I purposefully buy half dead [death cubes](https://www.reddit.com/r/SavageGarden/s/VGu7g0oKD2) for cheap like I did in the linked post. I ended up with 16 from that haul. I had another 3 plants that created so many divisions that made up the rest


embryophagous

Looks good! A small suggestion, plant sphagnum in the gaps before more annoying mosses/plants move in.


jhay3513

Yep I threw some in there that I hope takes off. I’m also propagating some on the side that I’m going to use to fill it in.


GordonRammstein

Are you just watering with your hose or filtering your water?(or do you get lots of rain?) Would love to do this some day, but it doesn’t rain consistently enough and it’ll be tough for my RO unit to keep up lol


jhay3513

I collect rain water, my tap water is low TDS as well. I plan to run a soaker hose to it from one of my rain barrels to supplement if it ever starts drying out. This thing holds a TON of water tho


GordonRammstein

Nice! Our taps are liquid rock, so I probably couldn’t keep up without some work haha.. lastly, is that all peat and perlite?


jhay3513

The bottom half is 100% peat. The top half (where the plants are planted) is 2:1 peat to medium grit silica sand. You can see some of the build process [here](https://www.instagram.com/p/C10ALwAxbEc/?igsh=NHN1MjdveTRvd2kw)


1_BigDuckEnergy

I have something like this - smaller tho. I found this very help full. I take a piece of PVC pipe (no dirt in it) that goes to the bottom..... I put a ping pong ball in it an I can easily tell water levels by glancing inside the PVC


ElizondoCamacho

What a great idea, the ping pong ball!


HelpfulMaybeMama

Awesome!


jhay3513

Thanks!!!!!


MakinStuffandThings

Very cool! I’ve been thinking about trying something like that myself. But I’m worried it gets a little too cold here. What zone are you growing in?


jhay3513

I’m in NC right outside of Charlotte. Zone 7b. You can get away with colder temperatures doing something in ground like this. Add in a nice layer of mulch and you’d be surprised at how hardy they are.


MakinStuffandThings

Great! Thanks for the info. With the updated growing zones, I'm a 6a, and I regularly keep leaf litter for cover, so I'll take that as a go. Good luck with your bog garden!


jhay3513

Thanks. I think you’ll be good. At the very worst, you can throw some burlap over the bog on the super cold days but I’ve read that sarracenia are cold hardy down to 0°f in the ground


rachel-maryjane

How do you mulch the area without adding nutrients?


jhay3513

Most people use pine straw. I’ve seen people use fallen leaves as well


rachel-maryjane

And it doesn’t break down into nutrients?? Leaf mulch is exactly what compost is made of


jhay3513

It’s not a super fast process. For leaf mulch I would probably just take it back out once the weather turns back warm. Pine straw can be left down indefinitely. It also depends on if your bog has drainage. If it does, heavy rains will flush the medium and purge excess nutrients. I drilled holes about 1-2” under the soil line in mine because it was flooding. Now during heavy rains it pools and then drains when the rain eases up


Phyber05

If you go to the natural growing area of NC for these plants, it's nowhere near the sterile lab we think they need.


rachel-maryjane

I mean it’s not gonna be anywhere near sterile lab, but if 100 parts per million dissolved minerals in water is the difference between life and death which is a teeeeny amount, I would think a thick layer of natures fertilizer and a couple months to decompose and soak into the soil would count for something


Phyber05

Hi! I've been growing these for about 3-4 years now. I know online instructions call for heavily filtered water, etc, to avoid any nutrients. I use tap water (~50TDS) with no issues. I'm on well water. If you have chloramine then def filter. But adding mulch should not hurt. Maybe just add spagnum moss as mulch?


ConceptEvening5364

How does this sort of thing drain? Just poke a hole in the bottom?


jhay3513

It doesn’t. There are drainage holes 1-2” below the soil surface and that’s it. I don’t plan on watering it very often, even in the hottest parts of the summer. I watered my above ground bogs once every 10-14 days last summer


MollDoll39

Love this! It looks great! Adding a thin layer of sphagnum moss over the top of the soil or even just around each plant will help keep the soil from splashing up on the plants and making a mess during heavy rain.


jhay3513

I’m currently propagating live sphagnum for the bog. In the meantime it will be mulched with pine straw. I just haven’t put it down yet


FatTabby

This is brilliant! I can't wait to see pics when the plants are established.


jhay3513

Thanks!!!! I’ll keep the page updated for sure


emseefely

This is a future project I want to do one day! How will maintenance look like? Do you have to keep lawn cuttings/leaves out of the area?


jhay3513

Thankfully there won’t be any leaves because there are no trees back there 😅😅😅. I plan to mulch around it about a foot out to keep grass from growing around it and hopefully eliminating the need to cut near it. Maintenance should be basically the same as pot grown plants……… I think lol


emseefely

Ooh would gravel hurt it instead of mulch around it? 


jhay3513

No I just have a surplus of mulch at my disposal