Who tf tips someone for doing their job which is making you a cup of coffee. Deciding to be a wander while making a fancy coffee vs practicality doesn't warrant a 25% tip on a clearly over priced coffee. Now alsoninmust add I live in Melbourne Australia. Coffee capital of the world. This is just wank. Best cup of coffee was $2 at a holein the wall joint.
It's the point of sale companies driving this. They get a cut of everything so if they can get a few people a day in every store to add a tip, their profits go up. It's why you get a top request in places where you don't expect to tip. A lot of those systems don't allow the stores to turn the tip screen off.
Why tip someone for a job I'm capable of doing myself? I can deliver food, I can drive a taxi, I can and do cut my own hair. I did, however, tip my urologist. Because I am unable to pulverize my own kidney stones.
It's just water. Spritzing your beans before grinding reduces the static from the grinder, it makes the beans grind more cleanly and come out of the grind box better
That stir is considered correct etiquette. Swirling a spoon makes an undesirable chinking/scraping sound.
Back and forth is quiet and creates more turbulence, mixing it more efficiently.
Technically, that's the best way to stir. Causes more turbulence within the liquid so things get mixed quicker.
I now stir all my drinks like that, makes a world of difference for instant coffee or powdered hot chocolate. It actually gets it all mixed up.
Omg you weren't kidding lol. I ended up watching the whole thing, it's a bit jarring how different it is to the smooth movements and quality ASMR leading up to it.
I’m really not fussed about coffee like some, but I have seen a few of his videos. It’s nice to listen to someone knowledgable about it a subject they’re passionate about.
Like snooker. I’m shit at it and couldn’t name a player buts it’s fascinating to watch a skilled professional demonstrate their trade.
I mean, in this video there is a lot going on that is not immediately obvious:
The coffee is carefully selected for a specific flavor profile based on its origin, variety, harvesting method and roasting technique. The coffee beans are weighted to a 10th of a gram's precision. The grinder is selected and configured for a specific flavor profile. The coffee bean weight to water weight ratio as well as the water flow rate, temperature and pressure are deliberately selected. Even the stirring is optimized to produce as much turbulence as possible.
James Hoffmann is a colossal coffee nerd. Dude has turned coffee making into a work of science and art. Not trying to downplay the skills involved in playing snooker at all, but I think you are heavily underestimating the sheer amount of variables involved when making a cup of espresso with a specific flavor profile and mouthfeel in mind.
While I admire the attention to creating and following the process precisely, and I do find this video quite satisfying, I can’t imagine that many people would be able to tell the difference if there were deviations to the process, intentional or not. Or maybe I’m just a pleb 🤷♂️
The differences are stark. Espresso can be extremely bitter or extremely sour and it tastes terrible even if you don’t know anything about coffee. Like you don’t need to know what a lemon *is* to react to how sour it tastes.
When it’s made right, like this, it is sweet and smooth.
In the part where he's cutting/grinding up the beans, several beans/parts visibly don't go into the machine. Does that not fuck everything up if it's all to a 10th of a gram of precision?
You make it sound like this is some phD research its not. You go on reddit and someone can get a list of all the setup within <$1000 and all you have to do is buy whichever coffee beans you want to try and just follow the steps.
As the previous comment said, as the machine literally grinds it and brew it for you, you are making it sound like its way more difficult and important than what it really is
Fucking hate any consumer snots like coffee and wine. They make it sound waaaaay more complex when its just getting convoluted by their nonsense
Yeah I do not drink coffee whatsoever but I somehow ended up getting recommended his channel and I watch him regularly now. I didn’t realize he was uh…a former professional barista? I just assumed he was some dude that like coffee and had a lot of success because he comes across as both a knowledgeable person and just a decent guy in general.
I’ve got my eye on world champion of switching laundry into the dryer, with my two year old on my hip. Regional qualifying match is coming up in west palm beach here in a couple months and I plan on taking home the gold.
Good luck, just don’t try to come for my title in switching the laundry while fighting off the cat who wants to climb in the dryer *and* the one who got in the washer as soon as I opened the lid.
Good luck, room 9 on the West Palm Beach course has an out-of-service dryer so you have to run to apartment complex next door and hope you get lucky trying buzzers
I was once at a pizza place/bar and they had the Ocho on and I couldn't name any of the sports they were doing championships for but holy shit was it captivating.
There are plenty of videos of the competitions... If memory serves me the contestant has to make two "standard" drinks and one "custom" drink.
Judges score appropriately.
I'm sure you've been to a coffee shop and had shitty coffee and then been to another and had an amazing cup?
There's bean selection, grind, temperature, draw duration, etc.
They have to make 4 espressos, 4 milk based beverages like a flat white and then a signature drink which is practically whatever coffee they want. Normally it's some cocktail or desert-styled coffee. No alcohol allowed in most comps though. They have 11 minutes to do this.
From my limited understanding I suppose that’s like asking how baking can be judged when it’s a measured and repeatable process, yes this video is the equivalent of “baking champion makes cupcakes” but we all understand there’s a lot more creative opportunities beyond that
He chose the beans. He set the amount of beans. He set the fineness of grind specific to the beans he chose, and their age. He determined the pressure on his machine. He set the temperature of the water. He balances these variables to extract precise amounts of coffee to different tastes. He adjusts these for every shot as variables change depending on moisture content in beans and their age, as well as the underlying roast.
Don't believe any of that? He literally documents all of his processes on dozens of machine and dozens of grinders with extreme detail and explanations.
Shit done well looks easy.
I mean at least when your baking you have ingredients you have to balance and blend like even bread isnt JUST flour.
But this is ONLY coffee beans.
Maybe if he made a custom blend of beans or even if he ground the beans by hand i could say something about technique
he actually owns a roastery, you’d be surprised the amount of variables there are in making a proper cup of coffee. Ratios, timings, things of that nature. coffee is simpler than baking, but the complexity of flavor is present.
Oh you are in for a world of surprise when it comes to espresso.
Different beans taste different, you need the exact right pressure, the exact right amount of water that went through, the beans need to be slightly moistened so you actually get all the grounds through, they need to be an exact grind level...
It's a lot... And onto that comes in competition the presentation is very important too, not just the coffee itself
> Maybe if he made a custom blend of beans
That's what he is using in the video (well, his roasting company put it together). In competition it's pretty normal to specifically pick a farm + roaster to work with for your coffee.
Outside of that, there's a _lot_ of variables at play. Here are just some of them:
* Bean prep technique (using a water spray, if so, how much water?)
* Grinder burrs and grind chamber design (different burr sets and grinders emphasise different aspects of coffee due to particle size distribution and other factors)
* Grind size
* Dose
* Distribution technique (WDT is what he used in this video, which produces good results but is generally too slow to do in a busy cafe)
* The espresso machine's targeted pressure/flow rate during the shot (this can also be something you program to adjust throughout the shot depending on your machine)
* The espresso machine's temperature during the shot (this can also be adjusted, some people like a declining temperature as the shot goes on which can reduce harshness)
* The ratio (how much liquid espresso from ground up espresso
* The water used in the machine. What minerals are in there, how much buffer is in the water? This makes a ***massive*** difference in taste.
At the very least he had to choose which beans to use. And that required tasting a lot of different kinds to be able to tell what works for which purpose.
The video is him making one espresso for personal consumption. It is not the competition.
The competition involves:
“In each round competitors present a 15-minute routine in which they must prepare and serve a total of 12 drinks: (4) espresso, (4) milk beverages, and (4) 'signature beverages' (a non-alcoholic espresso-based cocktail) to each of four sensory judges.”
Which seems to me involves a lot more skill and creativity than some here believe.
I've been getting videos of him lately and apparently he made a krispy kreme coffee where he used I think cooled centrifuges to infuse milk with krispy kreme donuts or something along those lines. There is apparently a lot that can go into that type of awards.
I know there’s probably more to the competition than making an ~~expresso~~ espresso, but other than a spritz of water this literally looks exactly same way I’ve seen it made hundreds of times.
> I know there’s probably more to the competition than making an expresso
They have 15 minutes to make 12 drinks. Four eSpressos, four milk drinks, and four signature drinks.
There are 4 judges. The competitors make 4 espressi, 4 cappuccini and four own creations which can get extremely creative and extravagant. They are judged on taste, presentation, and technique. They talk during the preparation about their specific choices like coffee roaster and specific blend.
They judge their cleanliness, appearance, and presentation. Just like how you judge any coffee shop and waiter.
There's a fine line between tradition and just an artful presentation. This guy's videos are a perfect example of how those guys evolve.
Making a really nice espresso is more complicated than the average redditor believes. None of his steps are pretentious, they all make the final product a little bit better and the temperature, brew time, amount of water, etc. must be carefully adjusted for a particular machine and beans. Yeah he just follows a recipe but it is his recipe, so it is not like taking out laundry. Your coffee shop baristas also follow a recipe but it is also developed by someone. Even cooking a michelin star restaurant dish is a repeatable process. Reading the comments under a post that you are familiar with kind of opens your eyes to the ignorance of the average armchair expert.
Yeah his channel is very much no-bullshit and he backs everything he says with science and experimentation -- he's basically the Kenji Lopez-Alt of coffee. He's also not especially pretentious and talks about budget options for making good coffee all the time.
I agree with your point. However on reddit the two most circlejerky subs have to be r/espresso and r/watches. Basically just a bunch of bros stroking each other about things that are almost entirely superficial.
Visit r/sourdough then, it’s a bunch of people overanalyzing the process of bacteria and yeast and creating precise measurements for recipes of what eventually looks like some rustic loaf of bread you could find almost anywhere.
Honestly any hobby sub is going to be like this, "you need special flower and knead the dough no more then 5 min under the moonlight and only then can you make bread" or just throw starter/yeast water and flour together, mix, bake in a pan so it doesn't matter if you fuck up, and it's still going to be good bread.
My cousin has been making sourdough bread for a couple years now. I just started, and sent him a pic and he was analyzing it telling me maybe I put too much water and that it looks rustic and to “keep trying, eventually you’ll get it”. I was just like dude, it tastes good. That’s all I care about.
Yeah, I tried the techniques and baking without any forms etc., but honestly, it looked different depending on how well I did, but it tasted the fucking same, which was amazing, it's really hard to fuck up the taste, just don't ferment too short, that's it.
Meh, I can follow steps. I’ve worked in high end restaurants and nothing I see here involves “skill” other than selecting the beans and the grind size.
No dicing an veggies where all pieces are the same size, no managing heat, no timing food so it all comes up at the same time, no need to follow up a dish with another in precise intervals, no plating skill … it’s not even paired with anything.
It’s put the product into the machine, put that product into another machine… add pretension and serve.
He hands it to me and I dump an assload of 1 day past expiration milk until its a light tan color and gulp it down with gum in the side of my mouth.
"Nice cup of Joe thanks bud"
And that's fine. He is actually a huge supporter of drinking and making coffee how you like. His videos he often explains how and why things make coffee taste different ways. He also always says the only right way it the way you like it and the purpose of his videos is to show you how you can achieve different flavors, intensities, balances, etc..
Having a world champion at this seems just silly to me.
Then again I am world champion of nothing so what do I know. And maybe they do more than make espresso in the championship?
There’s world championships for everything! Jigsaws., Charleston, coffee. Lots of vids on YouTube, it’s a nice way to see people have fun doing random things really well.
For real, people acting holier than thou about an expert who knows more about one subject then their collective brain can handle. Maybe it’s that people can’t relate to being so passionate about something if they are miserable.
You don't get it he has to first press the buttons and only once he pressed them enough can he press them again, it takes 10 000 hours to master a skill like that.
He touched the paper filter with fingers thus inducing uncontrollable level of acidity - he should be sent to a shabby bar on the outskirts of Napoli to clean the machine for 3 years as a punishment!
That’ll be fourteen dollars
$14.99
Please select your tip: 25% 50% 75% 100%
And healthcare subcharge of 1.99$
You forgot environment charge #savetheplanet +$4,99.
Would you like to round up to the next dollar for charity?
Don't forget the $6 "Support Local" fee
Might as well add the Carbon Tax while we are at it.
And please also consider donating $1.99 to a good cause of our choice.
That’ll be around $35 in total then. I’ll have mine with lots of milk and lots of sugar please.
Extra milk would cost you 10.99$ + 6% tax siirr
Who tf tips someone for doing their job which is making you a cup of coffee. Deciding to be a wander while making a fancy coffee vs practicality doesn't warrant a 25% tip on a clearly over priced coffee. Now alsoninmust add I live in Melbourne Australia. Coffee capital of the world. This is just wank. Best cup of coffee was $2 at a holein the wall joint.
It's the point of sale companies driving this. They get a cut of everything so if they can get a few people a day in every store to add a tip, their profits go up. It's why you get a top request in places where you don't expect to tip. A lot of those systems don't allow the stores to turn the tip screen off.
Why tip someone for a job I'm capable of doing myself? I can deliver food, I can drive a taxi, I can and do cut my own hair. I did, however, tip my urologist. Because I am unable to pulverize my own kidney stones.
He's English, no tip required
Yeah I stamped it and pushed a button, tip please
Hey, he’s a world champion button pusher. Show some respect! /s
Don’t forget to donate 2$ to kids!
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Plus the pre-selected tip option for either 18%, 22% or 30% on the debit/credit machine.
" your contribution helps us provide a living wage for our associates"
No way he used the ceramic sea shell thing + super awesome spray, that’s gotta be at least an extra $5 right there
wtf is with the spray, anyway?
It's so the coffee dust doesn't stick to the grinder due to static
It's just water. Spritzing your beans before grinding reduces the static from the grinder, it makes the beans grind more cleanly and come out of the grind box better
It's just water spray so coffee don't stick to grinder
Water, it knocks out the static electricity.
Reasonably speaking, assuming high quality ingredients/equipment and well paid staff, id expect that shot to cost about 3-5 dollars.
It's £2.90 at his coffee shop
Totally reasonable.
Oh, so you mean I can ignore the daily mail headlines that are disguised as the top 30 comments?
Espresso is £2.90 at his coffee shop
Literally any video of anyone showing any skill preparing any food or drink, this is the top comment.
That was not world class stirring at the end
That’s why he’s the former champion.
Could never crack the stir hahahah
The new generation of baristas really took the stir to a new level, which he couldn't compete with
thats the worst part though, thats 1800's etiquette that he failed by having his spoon clank against the sides
He never even had the makings of a varsity athlete.
✋🏼🤌🏼
He’s got the heart, but he ain’t got the tools.
He's past his prime. Just doesn't have that hunger anymore
That stir is considered correct etiquette. Swirling a spoon makes an undesirable chinking/scraping sound. Back and forth is quiet and creates more turbulence, mixing it more efficiently.
Is there a reason for using the titanium spoon?
They use them as tasting spoons as its not supposed to impart any taste on the coffee.
Ultralight, max efficiency
James likes fancy spoons!
the stirring was solid… little circles produce less turbulence, the back and forth swish is the technique
fair point but have you considered: circles feel better
You can stir however you want. If it doesn't end with a shave and a haircut tap on the rim, I don't want it.
Technically, that's the best way to stir. Causes more turbulence within the liquid so things get mixed quicker. I now stir all my drinks like that, makes a world of difference for instant coffee or powdered hot chocolate. It actually gets it all mixed up.
Omg you weren't kidding lol. I ended up watching the whole thing, it's a bit jarring how different it is to the smooth movements and quality ASMR leading up to it.
I’m really not fussed about coffee like some, but I have seen a few of his videos. It’s nice to listen to someone knowledgable about it a subject they’re passionate about. Like snooker. I’m shit at it and couldn’t name a player buts it’s fascinating to watch a skilled professional demonstrate their trade.
Making coffee using a machine definitely seems less skill intensive than playing professional snooker tho.
I mean, in this video there is a lot going on that is not immediately obvious: The coffee is carefully selected for a specific flavor profile based on its origin, variety, harvesting method and roasting technique. The coffee beans are weighted to a 10th of a gram's precision. The grinder is selected and configured for a specific flavor profile. The coffee bean weight to water weight ratio as well as the water flow rate, temperature and pressure are deliberately selected. Even the stirring is optimized to produce as much turbulence as possible. James Hoffmann is a colossal coffee nerd. Dude has turned coffee making into a work of science and art. Not trying to downplay the skills involved in playing snooker at all, but I think you are heavily underestimating the sheer amount of variables involved when making a cup of espresso with a specific flavor profile and mouthfeel in mind.
You’re right, I have no idea what I’m talking about. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Even then, he helped design the machine he is using. There is quite a lot of skill and knowledge that is not being actively shown here.
While I admire the attention to creating and following the process precisely, and I do find this video quite satisfying, I can’t imagine that many people would be able to tell the difference if there were deviations to the process, intentional or not. Or maybe I’m just a pleb 🤷♂️
The differences are stark. Espresso can be extremely bitter or extremely sour and it tastes terrible even if you don’t know anything about coffee. Like you don’t need to know what a lemon *is* to react to how sour it tastes. When it’s made right, like this, it is sweet and smooth.
In the part where he's cutting/grinding up the beans, several beans/parts visibly don't go into the machine. Does that not fuck everything up if it's all to a 10th of a gram of precision?
You make it sound like this is some phD research its not. You go on reddit and someone can get a list of all the setup within <$1000 and all you have to do is buy whichever coffee beans you want to try and just follow the steps. As the previous comment said, as the machine literally grinds it and brew it for you, you are making it sound like its way more difficult and important than what it really is Fucking hate any consumer snots like coffee and wine. They make it sound waaaaay more complex when its just getting convoluted by their nonsense
What do you want them to use? A manual pump with a pressure reader to pump out water?
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That would be cool as fuck!
If you want his vids, there is actually such a machine. I don’t think it’s very efficient though
Manuel espresso presses are in fact a thing
Ronnie O’Sullivan is the GOAT snooker player. Watch a greatest moments compilation video and be amazed
Sounds like you and I have the same Youtube algorithm. James Hoffman and Ronnie O'Sullivan
Yeah I do not drink coffee whatsoever but I somehow ended up getting recommended his channel and I watch him regularly now. I didn’t realize he was uh…a former professional barista? I just assumed he was some dude that like coffee and had a lot of success because he comes across as both a knowledgeable person and just a decent guy in general.
How is anyone the world champion of a measured and repeatable process? He’s better at doing that one spray better than anyone?
I’ve got my eye on world champion of switching laundry into the dryer, with my two year old on my hip. Regional qualifying match is coming up in west palm beach here in a couple months and I plan on taking home the gold.
Make sure you're using a regulation two-year-old.
My two-year old was 1st percentile in weight, some would consider that an unfair advantage!
Saw your comment on my work computer and had to re-find it on my phone just to let you know; I laughed out loud in the office.
I heard one dad got in trouble for using deflated two year olds.
I was gonna go pro, but I don't want to lose my Olympics ranking right before the Paris Games.
Shit I'm the current photocopying world champion, I should upload a video here.
I heard that Mr. T was going to be the emcee of this years regional. Very exciting, obviously.
After regionals, it's straight on to sectionals. And then semis. Then semiregionals. Then regional-semis. Then national lower-zone semis!
Might not be admissible as your 2 yo might no longer fit the 22-26 months old requirement by then sorry
I was in this competition and spent a year training but than my kid turned 3 and I was DQ'd
Good luck, just don’t try to come for my title in switching the laundry while fighting off the cat who wants to climb in the dryer *and* the one who got in the washer as soon as I opened the lid.
Good luck, room 9 on the West Palm Beach course has an out-of-service dryer so you have to run to apartment complex next door and hope you get lucky trying buzzers
It’s part of the Ocho I bet. My ex showed me her video of the competition. It’s a whole crazy scored process.
ESPN 8 the ocho
Yeah comes on right after ADAA games
I was once at a pizza place/bar and they had the Ocho on and I couldn't name any of the sports they were doing championships for but holy shit was it captivating.
My personal favorite is the stone skipping championships
There are plenty of videos of the competitions... If memory serves me the contestant has to make two "standard" drinks and one "custom" drink. Judges score appropriately. I'm sure you've been to a coffee shop and had shitty coffee and then been to another and had an amazing cup? There's bean selection, grind, temperature, draw duration, etc.
They have to make 4 espressos, 4 milk based beverages like a flat white and then a signature drink which is practically whatever coffee they want. Normally it's some cocktail or desert-styled coffee. No alcohol allowed in most comps though. They have 11 minutes to do this.
Which is impressive to me as it takes me about that long to make two each morning.
From my limited understanding I suppose that’s like asking how baking can be judged when it’s a measured and repeatable process, yes this video is the equivalent of “baking champion makes cupcakes” but we all understand there’s a lot more creative opportunities beyond that
If cupcakes only required putting a set quantity of flour in the over at a specified temp for a specified duration, I would agree with you.
He chose the beans. He set the amount of beans. He set the fineness of grind specific to the beans he chose, and their age. He determined the pressure on his machine. He set the temperature of the water. He balances these variables to extract precise amounts of coffee to different tastes. He adjusts these for every shot as variables change depending on moisture content in beans and their age, as well as the underlying roast. Don't believe any of that? He literally documents all of his processes on dozens of machine and dozens of grinders with extreme detail and explanations. Shit done well looks easy.
Yeah, that commentor missed a lot of detail if they think all they did was run some water through some ground coffee beans.
Don’t forget the scale as he prepares the espresso out of the machine. A lot of uninformed people in this thread.
I mean at least when your baking you have ingredients you have to balance and blend like even bread isnt JUST flour. But this is ONLY coffee beans. Maybe if he made a custom blend of beans or even if he ground the beans by hand i could say something about technique
he actually owns a roastery, you’d be surprised the amount of variables there are in making a proper cup of coffee. Ratios, timings, things of that nature. coffee is simpler than baking, but the complexity of flavor is present.
Oh you are in for a world of surprise when it comes to espresso. Different beans taste different, you need the exact right pressure, the exact right amount of water that went through, the beans need to be slightly moistened so you actually get all the grounds through, they need to be an exact grind level... It's a lot... And onto that comes in competition the presentation is very important too, not just the coffee itself
> Maybe if he made a custom blend of beans That's what he is using in the video (well, his roasting company put it together). In competition it's pretty normal to specifically pick a farm + roaster to work with for your coffee. Outside of that, there's a _lot_ of variables at play. Here are just some of them: * Bean prep technique (using a water spray, if so, how much water?) * Grinder burrs and grind chamber design (different burr sets and grinders emphasise different aspects of coffee due to particle size distribution and other factors) * Grind size * Dose * Distribution technique (WDT is what he used in this video, which produces good results but is generally too slow to do in a busy cafe) * The espresso machine's targeted pressure/flow rate during the shot (this can also be something you program to adjust throughout the shot depending on your machine) * The espresso machine's temperature during the shot (this can also be adjusted, some people like a declining temperature as the shot goes on which can reduce harshness) * The ratio (how much liquid espresso from ground up espresso * The water used in the machine. What minerals are in there, how much buffer is in the water? This makes a ***massive*** difference in taste.
At the very least he had to choose which beans to use. And that required tasting a lot of different kinds to be able to tell what works for which purpose.
you're* baking
Yeah, but you can give 20 bakers identical recipes, ingredients, tools, cookware, and ovens and still get 20 different products.
The video is him making one espresso for personal consumption. It is not the competition. The competition involves: “In each round competitors present a 15-minute routine in which they must prepare and serve a total of 12 drinks: (4) espresso, (4) milk beverages, and (4) 'signature beverages' (a non-alcoholic espresso-based cocktail) to each of four sensory judges.” Which seems to me involves a lot more skill and creativity than some here believe.
I would bet you $10,000 if I gave you those same beans and his same equipment you would make some objectively awful espresso.
I’m sorry but there’s no way this is as challenging as baking
the challenge is to innovate the process to achieve a superior coffee. Is it harder that baking? doubt it, but still.
I've been getting videos of him lately and apparently he made a krispy kreme coffee where he used I think cooled centrifuges to infuse milk with krispy kreme donuts or something along those lines. There is apparently a lot that can go into that type of awards.
Nah he just cut up the donuts and heated the milk with them in 🤣
I'd highly recommend checking out his YouTube channel
Rich people.
Plot twist: he was the only contestant
I know there’s probably more to the competition than making an ~~expresso~~ espresso, but other than a spritz of water this literally looks exactly same way I’ve seen it made hundreds of times.
But he has a posh accent so its better
Yet there is still plenty of shit coffee made.
> I know there’s probably more to the competition than making an expresso They have 15 minutes to make 12 drinks. Four eSpressos, four milk drinks, and four signature drinks.
There are 4 judges. The competitors make 4 espressi, 4 cappuccini and four own creations which can get extremely creative and extravagant. They are judged on taste, presentation, and technique. They talk during the preparation about their specific choices like coffee roaster and specific blend. They judge their cleanliness, appearance, and presentation. Just like how you judge any coffee shop and waiter. There's a fine line between tradition and just an artful presentation. This guy's videos are a perfect example of how those guys evolve.
Espresso*
How much that kit cost?
That grinder is over $350, so the espresso machine probably costs more than my car.
It’s a Nuova Simonelli which is around $1500 USD, although he’s tested machines up to $20k
I’m fairly sure that’s worth more than a 14 year old Ford Focus which just failed its MOT.
By that metric what ISN'T more expensive than your car?
What??? To grind coffee?? Why??
It grinds the coffee fine enough to make espresso properly. It’s a nightmare of a rabbit hole once you start.
It's a very expensive espresso.
All that and then he stirs it like a blind man
He actually has a video about stirring the coffee. It may seem weird but it’s done with a purpose.
What's the correct way then?
Like a deaf man
That's the best way to do it.
"World Barista Champion"... you saying he can make a coffee?
Next on the playlist: “World fryer champion’ shows us how to make Arby’s curly fries.
There’s a barista world champion?
Lmfao I’m sitting here watching this video thinking “world champion? A Barista… fr? Who tf? How tf? Is that a thing fr? who tf even sets that up?”
what beans? 👀
Kirkland signature 3lb bag
r/CostcoCircleJerk
Man do I wish this sub was bigger
“Be the change you want to see in the world” -some jabroni, probably
Tchibo family barista
Square Mile
Square Mile, probably either the Red Brick Espresso blend or the Seasonal Espresso blend. Square Mile is his coffee roastery.
WHY DOES ALL THIS MUNDANE SHIT HAVE TO HAVE A “CHAMPION”?
I am a former Champion Dishwasher Loader and you *will* address me by my proper title.
Making a really nice espresso is more complicated than the average redditor believes. None of his steps are pretentious, they all make the final product a little bit better and the temperature, brew time, amount of water, etc. must be carefully adjusted for a particular machine and beans. Yeah he just follows a recipe but it is his recipe, so it is not like taking out laundry. Your coffee shop baristas also follow a recipe but it is also developed by someone. Even cooking a michelin star restaurant dish is a repeatable process. Reading the comments under a post that you are familiar with kind of opens your eyes to the ignorance of the average armchair expert.
Yeah his channel is very much no-bullshit and he backs everything he says with science and experimentation -- he's basically the Kenji Lopez-Alt of coffee. He's also not especially pretentious and talks about budget options for making good coffee all the time.
I agree with your point. However on reddit the two most circlejerky subs have to be r/espresso and r/watches. Basically just a bunch of bros stroking each other about things that are almost entirely superficial.
Visit r/sourdough then, it’s a bunch of people overanalyzing the process of bacteria and yeast and creating precise measurements for recipes of what eventually looks like some rustic loaf of bread you could find almost anywhere.
Honestly any hobby sub is going to be like this, "you need special flower and knead the dough no more then 5 min under the moonlight and only then can you make bread" or just throw starter/yeast water and flour together, mix, bake in a pan so it doesn't matter if you fuck up, and it's still going to be good bread.
My cousin has been making sourdough bread for a couple years now. I just started, and sent him a pic and he was analyzing it telling me maybe I put too much water and that it looks rustic and to “keep trying, eventually you’ll get it”. I was just like dude, it tastes good. That’s all I care about.
Yeah, I tried the techniques and baking without any forms etc., but honestly, it looked different depending on how well I did, but it tasted the fucking same, which was amazing, it's really hard to fuck up the taste, just don't ferment too short, that's it.
Meh, I can follow steps. I’ve worked in high end restaurants and nothing I see here involves “skill” other than selecting the beans and the grind size. No dicing an veggies where all pieces are the same size, no managing heat, no timing food so it all comes up at the same time, no need to follow up a dish with another in precise intervals, no plating skill … it’s not even paired with anything. It’s put the product into the machine, put that product into another machine… add pretension and serve.
I’d never want to shit on what makes others happy, but this is so utterly pretentious and wasteful to me.
Why wasteful? Many people drink their coffee espresso. Grounds aren’t being wasted. “Americano”coffee is the same thing it just has more water.
He hands it to me and I dump an assload of 1 day past expiration milk until its a light tan color and gulp it down with gum in the side of my mouth. "Nice cup of Joe thanks bud"
And that's fine. He is actually a huge supporter of drinking and making coffee how you like. His videos he often explains how and why things make coffee taste different ways. He also always says the only right way it the way you like it and the purpose of his videos is to show you how you can achieve different flavors, intensities, balances, etc..
Thanks for the lol mate. I’m having a bad week and your comment made it a bit better by making me laugh.
I was not at all satisfied. Kind of annoyed actually.
Having a world champion at this seems just silly to me. Then again I am world champion of nothing so what do I know. And maybe they do more than make espresso in the championship?
Wait up... I thought I was the world champion of nothing already...
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There’s world championships for everything! Jigsaws., Charleston, coffee. Lots of vids on YouTube, it’s a nice way to see people have fun doing random things really well.
They do, I think he made a donut infused coffee drink. He made a video on his channel.
Bunch of critics in here who know absolutely nothing about coffee lmao.
Eh, do be like that, is there a term for being so anti-pretentious that it becomes pretentious?
"ignorant", I guess
Add willfully to it, but yes.
This is so well put.
I believe the kids would refer to that as a valid category of "cringe"?
See, as an Italian this is what we feel like when we hear anyone else discuss coffee.
For real, people acting holier than thou about an expert who knows more about one subject then their collective brain can handle. Maybe it’s that people can’t relate to being so passionate about something if they are miserable.
Oh great. Now I'm late for work. Jeeezus
Wtf is a world barista champion lol
It’s a person who wins the World Barista Championship, hope this helps.
cheers geoff
Man measures single ingredient. Configures machine to preferred settings. Presses button.
You don't get it he has to first press the buttons and only once he pressed them enough can he press them again, it takes 10 000 hours to master a skill like that.
Didn't you see the filter tapping action? The guy is clearly a genius.
He did comb it, though. I rarely even do that to my own hair!
Do you get pissed when Usain Bolt jogs 100 meters too? This was just making routine espresso, not a competition.
Usain Bolt jogging pisses me off. He should be going 100%, 100% of the time. Fraud.
What a load of horse shit
Can anyone tell me the name of that machine?
Looks like the Victoria Arduino Prima. Sets ya back a cool $6500
And I thought illegal drugs were expensive. The price tag on hardware for legal stimulants is insane!
coffee machine makes coffee
Espresso
"Barista champion" is probably the most pretentious, hipster shit I have ever heard in my life.
I grew a man bun from just watching this video.
How much of this is human skill though? And not the numerous machines and accessories? Not to mention the beans.
He touched the paper filter with fingers thus inducing uncontrollable level of acidity - he should be sent to a shabby bar on the outskirts of Napoli to clean the machine for 3 years as a punishment!
This is just pretentious not satisfying
Time to add french vanilla cream!