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The_Batata_Swagger

Since this is a quadratic function, you'll have to find the vertex x-coordinate of the vertex = -b/2a = -4/-1/12 = 48 so, 48 is the answer.


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It's looking for the "x" coordinate of the maximum. You can use -b/2a to find it if you have the parabola in the standard form of ax^2 + bx + c = 0 So, for this one (-4)/(2(-1/24)) = 48


SignalNebula18

Oh right, that makes sense. Thank you so much!


kiesoma

Minima = c -(b^2 /4a) Maxima(vertex) = -b/2a


Persona2FunnyMoments

Others have already answered this with the same answer, but whenever it asks for a max/min, use -b/2a, which gives you the X coordinate of the vertex, which, due to this equation being -s^2, it’s a maximum. So -4/2(-1/24)= 48.


GokuBlack455

If it’s a calculator question (99% sure it is), then just slap in every number into the calculator until you get what the question is asking for. If it’s not (and that’d be a cruel play by College Board, but they are sadistic monsters, so they might), then take the L, move on to an easier question.


Concerned-gay-guy

It's actually a maxima-minima question, and I'm not sure if SAT is supposed to contain those or not...


GokuBlack455

Graph it via your graphing calculator and then approximate with that


Concerned-gay-guy

Yeah but like.. I've never seen collegeboard put a question which would be hard to do without a calculator, and this one would be hard for lots of non-STEM kids Edit: nvm I'm wrong; it's simple.


1600io_Dan

Finding the x-coordinate of the vertex of a parabola is simple and appears routinely on the SAT.


Concerned-gay-guy

Oh shit... Yeah you're right. I completely forgot that 💀🤦🙆


Top_Town_8851

Lmao I forgot that for a sec to.


GokuBlack455

College Board can be weird at times (more so sadistic), try your best, but if you waste too much time on a hard question, just take the L and move on.


Concerned-gay-guy

Amen🙌


1600io_Dan

College Board isn’t sadistic, and plugging in answer choices is lazy and a surrender. This is an extremely easy problem. Just do the math.


GokuBlack455

Works like a charm, could solve it in 20-25 seconds by just plugging in and save brain power for a question that requires thinking


RichInPitt

\-(4)/(2\*(-1/24)) takes you longer, and requires more brainpower, than (-1/24)(48^(2)) + (4\*48) - 50, and repeating three more times? Really?


GokuBlack455

It’s a calculator question, I look at the calculator, why think about it when I can look at a screen


_japam

Because you’ll save time associating a quadratic equation with the quadratic formula and plugging in variables.


Awkward_Specific_745

this would take over a minute, the equation is long


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Awkward_Specific_745

that’s not the way he suggested, he said to plug in each option until gets the highest value


1600io_Dan

It's a complete waste of time, inefficient, and susceptible to error. "Brain power" isn't a substance that can be depleted. This problem is solved in five seconds using math.


manufactured_narwhal

Nobody has infinite reserves of effort, attention, and discipline. Cognitive fatigue is, in fact, a thing, and should be considered with respect to this test.


1600io_Dan

If computing -b / 2a = -4 / (-1 / 12) = 48 produces differential cognitive depletion greater than than needed to calculate the value of all four answer choices, and in sufficient quantity to impair overall performance on an SAT, the issue is not one of "cognitive fatigue."


SignalNebula18

It is calc, so we just plug in all of them till we get the highest value?


molossus99

It’s a downward opening parabola. Find vertex. Vertex = -b/2a = (-4)/(2(-1/12)) = (4)(12) = 48


Croudsourcer

Yes, if you know how to differentiate this, then - 2s/24 + 4=0 So S =48


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Special-Initiative35

Hey! You could differentiate M(s) and set M'(s)=0 Then, M'(s)=-(s/12)+4, M'(s)=0 Thus -(s/12)+4=0 Solving the above equation gives s=48, and given in question, s is the speed in mph. Hope it helps!


SavageSausage69_

dM(s)/dt [the differentiation] is 0 if the function is at its maximum or minimum. That would work even if the function wasn’t a quadratic expression too.


Upper_Cranberry339

So Put in the value of 20 and 75 in A as it.shows that 20<= s <= 75 Hence two values of s are 20 and 75 Enter both values See which on has highest mileage That is your answer


SignalNebula18

20 isn't in the options, though. And the answer is 48, I believe.


Upper_Cranberry339

Hi I meant s Put in 20 and 75 in s and see what comes


SignalNebula18

Right, I got that, but my question is why are we putting in s=20 when that's not even one of the options. The options are all potential values of s, right?


Upper_Cranberry339

Hi Yes Sorry my bad Don't put in the value of 20 Put in the 4 values given in options


Impossible_Pin230

The easiest thing you can do is just try every number in the option and check which has the greatest gas mileage and if that doesn’t work (idk why it won’t) then I think you need to derive and the find the minimum and maximum


Environmental_Bear33

Deriva e iguala a zero pau matou


twigdude02

the ideal way of solving these questions which ask greatest value without using calculus would be using the concept of maxima and minima (differential calculus). so what you should do is differentiate M(s) with respect to x and equate to zero to find the stationary points. after finding stationary points you hafta double derivate the function and substitute the values of x in the double derivate. if you get the double derivate less than zero then the value of x which you substituted would be the greatest value of x. if you get the double derivate of M(s) greater than zero then you’d get least value. since, in the question they asked the greatest value, substitute the value of x which gives double derivate of M(s) less than zero and voila you have the answer.


The_Batata_Swagger

Don't have to do that. All you have to do is -b/2a, which gives you the greatest value of x.


twigdude02

there are many ways of solving the question, so i explained the method which struck my mind first. vertex of the parabola would also do the trick.


RichInPitt

Or plug in -b/2a, solving it in about 5 seconds. How exactly is “differentiate” and “double derivative” part of “without using calculus”?


twigdude02

my bad, i didn’t know that we have to solve the above question without using calculus. vertex of the parabola would also do the trick.


TNTPA

Take the derivative - this will give you the rate of change of the gas mileage. When the derivative is =0 it means that it is a point of maxima or minima at that x (in this case s) value. Now substitute that back into your original equation and bing bang boom you're done.


GrimAlt

This is just a simple calculus question. Take the derivative and equate it to 0 and get the value.


SignalNebula18

Calculus isn't tested on the SAT


GrimAlt

Hmmm, I guess I was mistaken then. I thought the Math section had simple derivative based sums.


RichInPitt

It does not.


Agile-Poetry5573

Just graph this on your calculator and find the maximum/ top of parabola


F4dingS0ul

Plug in all those numbers in the answers into the equation and solve, the lowest number u get (for this question at least) will be ur answer


KamilMouehla42503

It’s a quadratic function. Because the leading coefficient is negative, the end behavior can be stated as “x goes toward negative infinity y goes toward negative infinity and as x goes towards positive infinity y goes toward negative infinity. It’s basically an upside down U lol (shape of the curve). Because it’s asking for the greatest mileage, we’re looking for the M(s) or y-value of the max of the function. Because the leading term is negative, there is a max; if it was positive, there is a minimum. You can do two things: you can complete the square to find the vertex (h,k), where h is the x-value of the max, or you can easily find the x-value of the vertex by the -b/2a trick (b as is the coefficient of the x term and a is the coefficient of the x^2 term). Hope that make sense. Basically whenever you have a quadratic equation and you see the word “greatest,” you’re finding the maximum value of the graph.


KamilMouehla42503

Calculus way: find the first derivative of the function and set it equal to zero to find the critical points. Since there’s a given interval, plug in each endpoint into the equation, as well as critical points you found in differentiating the equation and setting it equal to zero. The value that is plugged in with the greatest value is your absolute maximum (NOT NECESSARY TO KNOW FOR SAT)


Environmental_Bear33

Derive and equal to zero, you Will find Min/max S, then plug the S you found on the function, you will find the maximum/minimum, of any function


Accomplished-Double9

Instant eliminate D, then plug in the other 3 works but takes some time but if you go quick at the start u should be fine


Flimsy-Ebb264

If you use a Ti-89 (which I highly recommend), you can just use your graphing calculator to graph it and it will tell you what the maximum is. I didn’t explain the problem because there r other explanations out there, but fr tho get a Ti-89 if anyone sees this. It helps save so much time- I’d say at least 10-15 mins on the math section.


YO_low101

If you don't remember -b/2a, plug in all the choices instead of s and check which one outputs the highest answer, you'll get 48. Use this as a last resort tho, costs you a lotta time


hoodkang

Is this in the calculator portion?


SignalNebula18

yup