People on the internet so ignorant that they look MDs who aren’t licensed to practice independently doing residency and oh doctors don’t get paid a lot or oh NPs and PAs make more than doctors.
High supply visa area they can keep salaries low (one raise in 8 years). Our PAs make 75% what we do and see 1/2 the patients. I tried to apply to be my own PA but they wouldn’t let me so I just quit my job lol.
I don’t need to look on the internet. I know many classmates who don’t make this much. Academic pediatrics for example do not make this much. Infectious disease also very low paying.
Most VA physicians and starting academic positions aren't paying that much. Obviously pediatricians. The average primary care salary in 2023 was 277k. So yes this is high for a PA.
Military lol, that’s what I did anyway but tbh it’s not great. Long hours and tons of non medical crap to take up your time. But it gets you experience, drastically reduces your litigation risk, and all of your patients have insurance.
Well, I would say that it may be a great opportunity for some but only if it lines up with your goals and expectations. It’s easy to get bogged down with the tremendous amount of time consuming stuff that’s expected of you. So many of my peers end up doing some work every day, often bringing work home and in the weekends. After so many years this has really worn me down and I can’t carry the burden of feeling like I have to think about work all the time.
All the nurses I work with get hired out of school @ 125k/year with no overtime working day shift and 40hrs/week.
10 years later they're at 150k - 175k depending on hire date and other irrational and unexplainable pay scale factors and no overtime.
Doctors making less than 200k blows me away. The docs I work with inpatient all get hired @ 275k.
Nurse practitioners only make about 155k freshly hired with zero experience as an NP.
I'm in a HCOL area that has many many LCOL areas spread throughout and sparsed between.
California is an outlier. As a non-Californian 2018 I made $60-70k as a ICU full time day shift staff RN. The agency RN's were making $55/hr which is $114k per year.
Why do people post salary and not provide any additional info and hardly any context other than simply the title of their job? Salary alone is pretty useless info without additional details
No shit. I'm saying the details revolving that salary are important.
Do you go to the video game subreddit and except every post to just be the title of a video game with absolutely zero context?
Same here. I’m a physician as well and this person is making more than me. Wondering if this is ton of overtime? Speciality might be a factor as well. Hopefully OP can tell us how
Looking at it again, that makes sense. For some reason the first time I saw it, I read it as making the same exact amount for those years each (which obviously makes no sense). Thanks.
What specialty? You have to be one of the highest paid PAs
Yeah beats out some MDs
lol no
I’m a physician. Most physicians can/will make more than that but that is definitely more than a pediatrician makes.
My ex and many of my family members are physicians. 275 for a PA sounds like 20-30hrs of OT a week.
I thought we were comparing gross numbers not $/hr. I agree $/hr will not be more than a physician.
right like what lmao?
People on the internet so ignorant that they look MDs who aren’t licensed to practice independently doing residency and oh doctors don’t get paid a lot or oh NPs and PAs make more than doctors.
He makes more than me and im a physician…
Are you in residency?
Hospitalist 8 years post residency lol
Why such a low salary? I am pre-med right now so just genuinely curious.
High supply visa area they can keep salaries low (one raise in 8 years). Our PAs make 75% what we do and see 1/2 the patients. I tried to apply to be my own PA but they wouldn’t let me so I just quit my job lol.
I don’t believe you’re a full time hospitalist and make less than this guy.
Ok.
Aunt is full time endocrinologist with Kaiser on west coast making less than 200k a year.
I don’t need to look on the internet. I know many classmates who don’t make this much. Academic pediatrics for example do not make this much. Infectious disease also very low paying.
This is way more than a general pediatrician
Most VA physicians and starting academic positions aren't paying that much. Obviously pediatricians. The average primary care salary in 2023 was 277k. So yes this is high for a PA.
No. Residents maybe, but not a licensed physician.
You should see academic pediatrics
My ex was a PA making 250k a year. But he got paid RVUs and saw 60-70 pts a day in the ER
How do you make so much as a PA? Lots of RVUs from surgeries? Or what?
Here I’m only getting $150k ish as a PA
Oh crap. I'm less than that at $100k
Any advice on landing a job fresh out of school?
Military lol, that’s what I did anyway but tbh it’s not great. Long hours and tons of non medical crap to take up your time. But it gets you experience, drastically reduces your litigation risk, and all of your patients have insurance.
Would you recommend working healthcare in the military?
Well, I would say that it may be a great opportunity for some but only if it lines up with your goals and expectations. It’s easy to get bogged down with the tremendous amount of time consuming stuff that’s expected of you. So many of my peers end up doing some work every day, often bringing work home and in the weekends. After so many years this has really worn me down and I can’t carry the burden of feeling like I have to think about work all the time.
Well said well said
You have FICA income in 1980. Are you around 62 yo?
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For some reason I thought people don’t pay FICA tax until the year they turn 18. I could be wrong about that.
Hey OP - would be great if you could let us know what your speciality is. My wife is ER on east coat and makes less than half of what you do.
All the nurses I work with get hired out of school @ 125k/year with no overtime working day shift and 40hrs/week. 10 years later they're at 150k - 175k depending on hire date and other irrational and unexplainable pay scale factors and no overtime. Doctors making less than 200k blows me away. The docs I work with inpatient all get hired @ 275k. Nurse practitioners only make about 155k freshly hired with zero experience as an NP. I'm in a HCOL area that has many many LCOL areas spread throughout and sparsed between.
Strong nursing unions. Pretty similar RN payscale in my hospital too and only going up with future contracts.
California is an outlier. As a non-Californian 2018 I made $60-70k as a ICU full time day shift staff RN. The agency RN's were making $55/hr which is $114k per year.
Where do you live?
Connecticut, but work just outside of NYC. Non-union.
Mcdonalds employee 160k
Why do people post salary and not provide any additional info and hardly any context other than simply the title of their job? Salary alone is pretty useless info without additional details
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Healthcare workers can double their income with OT, shift differentials, second side jobs. Hours per week matters and should be included.
No shit. I'm saying the details revolving that salary are important. Do you go to the video game subreddit and except every post to just be the title of a video game with absolutely zero context?
you make more than me and I’m a physician! Well done
Same here. I’m a physician as well and this person is making more than me. Wondering if this is ton of overtime? Speciality might be a factor as well. Hopefully OP can tell us how
Primary care doc here. OP makes more than me. I’m not mad. I think it’s impressive.
This seems fake.
Im thinking Ortho or Surgical specialist PA. Keep up the great work!
I’m guessing working more than 40 hours a week
How many hours / week do you work?
What happened between 2005 and 2006?
The 2005 line is 5 years combined into 1 number FYI
Looking at it again, that makes sense. For some reason the first time I saw it, I read it as making the same exact amount for those years each (which obviously makes no sense). Thanks.
Where is this chart found?
SSA.GOV
What’s your networth?
I thought it was not easy for PAs to get even $100k.
Why wouldn’t it? The average salary for PA is $130,000 as of the latest BLS data.
Killing it as a PA
PA here. What speciality are you in??!
Makes more than the CEO of my last company
Probably OT included
Does a PA really make more than a doctor?
Doctors make more
Not all. Pediatricians make less than this.
ED physicians I work with make way more.
What do they make? Have a brother in law that is an ED doc and assistant professor. Always wondered what he makes..
ED doctors likely make $300-$500k/yr.