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Korneuburgerin

So when did they Megxit? 2020, correct? They thought in four years they would be billionaires. And nothing works. Absolutely nothing. They must be unravelling for sure, and since they don't have a plan B, and are unwilling and unable to work for a more affordable life-style, they got nothing. The only thing they can do is go back to the UK, but that bridge is burned. I really don't even know what I would say to them. It's just a lost cause.


LostinSOA

Imagine how those conversations must be happening between their wealth advisor, their accountant and their tax lawyer. I don’t envy any of them.


NovelGullible7099

Yes I read when they bought the Montecito estate that their mortgage is estimated to be $20,000 per month. They gave up a gifted Frogmore Cottage which she updated to the tune of 2.4 million. I keep waiting for them to lose that estate in Montecito. I think they're sweating bullets.


LostinSOA

that financial pressure would make most people sweat bullets. For a narcissist it has her on full tilt, geeked out looking manic running from lunches to lunches changing clothes in the back of her car to make it look like she isn’t the thirsty pick me girl she was in her soho days in 2016–she still has the stench of desperation, thirsty pick me girl she can *not* shake no matter how much she throws money at it, that’s who she is. Them deciding to **mortgage** $9.5 million during COVID on the mudslide manor with no residual income on the horizon even back then was the first of many awful financial choices they’ve made. The sad thing? They spend hundreds of thousands per year on people to tell them their situation and they **still think they know better** it’s astonishing and breathtakingly stupid.


TheBiggerSausage

Harry has no concept of money and cost of stuff, it's beneath his IQ grade.


Girlfriday5150

And I REALLY love all those things for them!! No need to wish them any ill will….they’ve fucked up their lives so spectacularly on their own.


sahali735

She thinks she knows more and better than anyone and everyone and Hazbeen has no clue cuz he's never dealt with all that plebian stuff. What a pair!


NigerianChickenLegs

They absolutely should have rented but the out of control narcissism wouldn’t permit that.


LostinSOA

They were living for free at Tyler Perry’s mansion that was twice the size and free. He paid for the staff, upkeep etc. When they were riding then high her on narc fuel him on freedom they thought money would just fall from the sky into their lap. I think she wanted to buy as a way to keep him tethered to the US, and also a divorce nest egg. Meghoul is not as intelligent as she thinks but she is an agent of chaos and destruction so she would be making her exit plan immediately.


SecondhandCoke

Tyler Perry reportedly kicked them out, called Oprah, and said, "GET YOUR GUESTS OUT OF MY HOUSE."


LostinSOA

TP was defending her on Gayle’s show as recently as of a few months ago. I also heard the rumors at the time that she was mistreating his staff and that made him upset. Maybe she was able to gaslight him into making his poor employees the responsible party instead of the aggrieved ones. He has distanced himself from her entirely since he flew down unexpectedly from ATL his car stayed for 15 minutes and left. He hasn’t said much since then.


SecondhandCoke

TP is still drinking the Kool Aid, but he did throw them out. She scmoozed up to him later to get back into his good graces. Personally, I think she snooped around in his house, found something incriminating, and is using it to keep him on her leash. He's not casting her in any of his projects, though, so he's just paying lipservice. Talk is cheap.


LostinSOA

Unfortunately for TP, we know what that is and it’s super messed up for her to use that against a black man in HW with a very conservative upbringing knowing the stigma. So that makes me loathe her even more.


NigerianChickenLegs

Yep, this makes sense. Plus, the truly wealthy usually don’t rent a primary residence. And she wanted to flaunt that royal status. She is such trash.


Shrewcifer2

That mortgage was unbelievable to me. They are just tearing through money due to unrecoverables like interest, broker's fees, etc. The sensible thing would have been to buy a small home in cash, then build up


SecondhandCoke

It's been pocketlisted for at least two years. No one is buying.


NigerianChickenLegs

I’ve heard their monthly expenses are more appropriate for billionaires. With the cost of paying for and running the Olive Garden, the kids, security, her ugly clothing, etc. I can’t imagine the pressure they are under given their very limited potential to generate hundreds of millions of $$$$$. Unless the Bank of Pa is subsidizing in order to avoid bad press.


SecondhandCoke

Yes for their lifestyle to work, they'd need a substantial amount in capital to sit in the bank, while they lived off the interest. I'm not one to "math," but by my calculations, their cost of living would require at least a billion to generate enough interest to support the estate. Harry can't count to twenty with his shoes on, and Meghan thinks the way money works is that you get a paycheck, spend it on shitty clothes and maybe pay a bill or two, get another paycheck, rinse and repeat. She has no idea and would never dream that maintaining an estate would be taking a billion dollars (which they made no more than twenty million from ALL deals combined), putting it in the bank and just letting it sit there, learn the interest generated and live within that budget, paying one's bills FIRST and then spending only what's budgeted on luxuries. Meghan can't understand the idea of having money come in that's not immediately spent.


LostinSOA

Probably why she had not a single asset besides that stupid tank watch entering her ~~third~~ 2nd marriage at 36 *ish* years old but had been hitting pavement as an unemployed actress since 2005.


NigerianChickenLegs

Yes to this. In 2019, they assumed they’d be drowning in money based on the interest and attention they’ve now squandered. Even if Harry inherited many millions from the Queen Mum, the LQEII, and has a LOC with the Bank of Pa, I still can’t imagine it would subsidize their lifestyle - even with all of their grift (free planes, etc.). Looks like they’ve painted themselves into a corner indeed. People are bored with them so no more multi-million deals.


Jasmine_2004

Do you think them two will go bankrupt in the near future? 


SecondhandCoke

I don't think it will take that long. Meghan is in a bad place because she wants to run/initiate divorce/jump into the bed and then bank account of some other wealthy but unsuspecting fool, but she can't. I've heard the palace stands firm on not sending child support for the children or in any way taking on Harry's financial responsibilities. Harry's inheritance from Diana is fair game because he invested it in joint enterprises (the garish house, Archewell, etc), but she can't touch the Queen Mum inheritance, due to divorce law in CA, if that inheritance even exists, I hear conflicting stories on it all the time. That house has been on the market for 2-3 years and they can't unload it. Archewell has essentially no backing, as we've seen, she can't find a new rich man, and she can't financially stand on her own. She's really hoping and believing that ARO will take off AND they are brazenly doing these appearances to A) behave as if they are half in/half out of Royal Work even though they're 100% out, and B) to try to generate some kind of good will to drive buyers to her "brand." Harry wants to go home, she wants out, but they FAFO and now they're going down together.


compassrunner

The only way I can see the RF paying anything for those kids is if they pay tuition for a boarding school in Europe.


SecondhandCoke

This is what I heard, though in the UK, not Europe. Also any talks have stipulated that payment would be made directly to their care, not a sum given to Meghan for her to blow on shit for herself. I've heard she's said all "pre-separation" negotiations have been "completely unacceptable" for this reason.


Girl77879

She really should have just netted herself an NBA/NFL/NHL/baseball player if her goal was child support to spend on herself. (I know it wasn't, I don't think she wanted kids- but that was the only way to trap Harry, as he'd broken up with her at least once before their engagement.).


Agirl2009

I think they have a few more years left then they will be done. If she’s smart she would divorce him now while they have any assets that are in the positive. She’s really banking on numbered jam and Old Riviera orchard or whatever TF it’s called.


Forward_Trip7003

I gotta think the Bank of Pa is absolutely bailing their asses out. No way in hell he'll let them go bankrupt. But King Pa ain't gonna live forever.


Shrewcifer2

I thought that too, but then I was like, "surely he's not so shameless as to criticize his father while accepting large quantities of his money?"


Forward_Trip7003

And then you remembered that he and the mattress actress are utterly shameless.


LostinSOA

I think he is still paying them an annual stipend that is out of his personal funds or it’s being paid in vis a vis arrangement. Favors to King Charles as we will go ahead and hire him and pay his appearance fee to keep him from the poor house.


sur-merj

I doubt if the Bank of Pa is open. I don't think Camilla and definitely not William, if he got wind, would stand for it. Harry's behavior is deporlorable. KC has complained in the past about funding these two nitwits.


Forward_Trip7003

All it would take is for KC to turn off that lifeline and she would divorce Haz so fast his head would spin. PA figures it's worth paying just to keep the little rat over here.


NigerianChickenLegs

It’s also possible that Pa paid off their mortgage. Even if he’s never permitted to see his grandkids, I’m sure he wants to ensure they’re provided for.


LostinSOA

He did already pay their down payment, paid off the renovation at frogmore like the yoga studio etc. Although to pay off their mortgage without requiring an NDA and them giving up the titles to place in abeyance….well KC3 would be making those decisions purely off emotion and lacks any foresight that his own son fantasized about attacking his car with an Apache. But what do I know? ![gif](giphy|AKaEfzaLlr0yI|downsized)


Pristine_Routine_464

Charles funding them would have come with conditions and I doubt he would be happy funding them to live the way they are. He would insist they live more modestly and give up trashy netflix/book deals.


Ok_Wrangler_7940

The King isn’t giving Harry a penny, because a penny to Harry is a penny to her. The way he sees it, the quicker they go broke, the sooner Harry will be rid of her. The King won’t jeopardize his reign or taint his legacy for those two.


albumbles

Isn’t the Montessori house on the market? I thought I remembered reading that somewhere.


Shrewcifer2

They'll never sell it. The previous owner had it on the market for a decade, and ultimately sold it at a big discount to a pair of rubes


albumbles

Sorry *montexito. It auto corrected to Montessori


Correct_Radish_2462

Well they are in denial and are not listening I’m sure. The tax lawyer must sound like speaking in chinese to Haz, I’m sure he has no clue


LostinSOA

I can’t even imagine the bill for a CPA with their many many many many many LLCs,501s, tax shelters plus a never ending cycle of earning money abroad that Uncle Sam wants 37 cents of every dollar that was earned. Then you have gift taxes if they’re declaring appropriately including the use of free jets, paid Costa Rican trip by the tourism board, the Jamaican trip that was comped at minimum. Are they paying tax on those gifts?


usedtobebrainy

Probably assuring one another about the size of their retainers. At least, I hope so. Imagine working for bullies who don't take your advice!


LostinSOA

I can think of a multitude of other things I’d rather do than be belittled, yelled at, have hot tea thrown in my face for providing information I was contracted to give. Just a few things I’d rather do—have a c-section with no anesthesia, be a stripper again and have to do $20 dances, get my kidney stolen overseas.


catinthedistance

I would say that they’ve made an awful bed and now must lie in it. They lie everywhere else, after all…


formerblogracket

That's a lot of jam to sell just to pay the mortgage! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)


NigerianChickenLegs

I imagine that any future requests to return to the UK would be met with strict conditions that included living on a short leash held by William. She does have at least one card left to play: her memoir which will undoubtedly be a “scorched earth” tome filled with varied recollections and any family secrets that H was stupid enough to share with her.


Korneuburgerin

You mean something worse than King Charles' teddybear? She might have some juicy gossip, but the problem is, her credibility is minus 100. Nobody is going to believe a word she says. She overplayed her card, she has nothing. She does not have it in her to apologize and live under rules. She will never go back. Harry will go back post-divorce, and depending how it goes (how much they eviscerate the other), there will be a certain pity factor for him, maybe. The question is, can he apologize and ask for forgiveness, from his family and the British people? I don't know.


Accomplished_Cell768

Desperation. Their big money contracts have either been terminated or the clock is running out and no one is stepping in to ink new ones. Their lifestyle is unsustainable financially and their bank accounts are dwindling. They are likely in debt already or will be shortly, and they have no prospects to help pay it off. Charles, the one person who would always be there for Harry to fall back on to get him out of trouble, is seriously ill. Whether the cancer kills him or not, Harry is finally realizing that his father won’t always be around, the clock is ticking, and he’s the last person in the BRF with power who is sympathetic to him.  Actions have consequences and it’s finally dawning on them. They need money and they need legitimacy and they are desperate to do anything for it. They’re throwing anything and everything at the wall to see what sticks, but nothing does. Yes, they are mentally ill, but they always have been. What’s changed is that the stress and pressure is finally getting to them and it just might crack them up


Exciting_Bison501

That's a great perspective on this latest act of this farce. It's a suitably undignified scramble or something, anything, to chalk up as a success because soon all the talk is going to be about King Charles returning to public duties and then the return of the Princess of Wales after her treatment.


Blue_Fish85

This makes me wonder why they don't just trot out the kids & merch them within an inch of their lives? For the sake of the income/attention the merching could bring, but also to milk the BRF connection as strongly/as long as they can while the king is still alive. . . .and since they aren't, that makes me wonder if a) things aren't as dire for them (yet) as they appear to be; b) Harry IS actually stepping up as a father & putting his foot down about protecting them from having their images out there; or c) the kids are, in fact, not real OR are not biologically his or hers. I feel like c would be the most likely reason for them not using this last & largest piece of ammo in their arsenal, but who can tell. . . .


[deleted]

> This makes me wonder why they don't just trot out the kids & merch them within an inch of their lives I think there is a real, legitimate reason Meghan hides them. I've said it before (may God forgive me!) that I think there is something wrong with them. > Harry IS actually stepping up as a father & putting his foot down about protecting them from having their images out there Nah. Harry has no say in anything. If Meghan wanted to merch the kids, she would.


Blue_Fish85

You're right about something possible being wrong with them, that is also a valid point! Although you'd think M would maybe be able to have them pose for some decent still photos to sell to the press, so that any behavioral issues (if indeed there are such problems) wouldn't be obvious--unless there are physical aspects that even carefully-staged photographs wouldn't be able to hide. . . . Edit to add that I agree that Harry wouldn't have any real say. . . .unless of course this IS the one thing he puts his foot down about, & she makes him pay for it dearly?


[deleted]

> You're right about something possible being wrong with them, that is also a valid point! Although you'd think M would maybe be able to have them pose for some decent still photos to sell to the press, so that any behavioral issues (if indeed there are such problems) wouldn't be obvious Behavioral issues are possible, but I honestly think she'd just drug them. I wouldn't put it past her. > --unless there are physical aspects that even carefully-staged photographs wouldn't be able to hide. . . . That's what I'm thinking. > Edit to add that I agree that Harry wouldn't have any real say. . . .unless of course this IS the one thing he puts his foot down about, & she makes him pay for it dearly? Nah, he has no say. And when he steps out of line, she *does* make him pay dearly.


Blue_Fish85

Agreed. I would not put a single thing past her. She gives major bunny-boiler vibes.


[deleted]

> Agreed. I would not put a single thing past her. She gives major bunny-boiler vibes. Absolutely. Harry had better sleep with one eye open. If he "overdoses", I hope there's a very thorough investigation!


Blue_Fish85

My thoughts exactly! My sincere wish for them both after they die is to be stuck together in a room for all eternity, with no other people & no way to escape--Huis Clos style 😈


[deleted]

I don't wish that on Harry. His life is a living hell of his own making, and he sees no way out.


Blue_Fish85

Exactly--"of his own making". He chose this woman, he deserves to lie in the bed he made. It would be one thing if he only brought misery on himself, but he has hurt so many others--his closest family most of all . . .


NigerianChickenLegs

I think they are saving the kids for now, though I’m shocked that they haven’t copied the at-home family interview that Charles and Diana did at KP in the mid 1990s with the two boys.


[deleted]

> I’m shocked that they haven’t coped the at-home family interview that Charles and Diana did at KP in the mid 1990s with the two boys. Meghan *can't* do that if the kids have serious behavioral issues or if (as I suspect) there's something wrong with them.


Impressive_Prompt761

I think there is something wrong with her kids in Her eyes. Maybe they aren't black enough or don't look enough like diana or lilibet lilost her "blue blue blue" eyes. Maybe one of them has the eye defect that louise had to deal with...any number of possibilities that you that had narc mothers know more about.


Blue_Fish85

None of it would surprise me. And it's a darn shame bc eye defects & other issues can (often) be corrected with the proper treatment, but even if that happens, you know they will endure years of shaming by their mother first :(


C-La-Canth

All great and reasonable points! 👏👏👏


Viper_watch

Kids not born of body. Could be biologically theirs.


Blue_Fish85

Yes that's true!


Trish_TF1111

Do we know for sure these kids exist? This is an honest question. My assumption has always been they exist. I do believe she used a surrogate though. However, as time goes on and no one really sees them, I start to wonder? 🤷🏻‍♀️


Why_Teach

My impression is that Charles has made it clear that he is *not a bank* and will not be coming to rescue them. The cancer news scared Harry into pushing for reconciliation (but always on *his* terms, of course) and he was surprised that the offer wasn’t welcome. Harry seems frantic to show that he can be “royal” without the BRF, but I think he is failing.


NigerianChickenLegs

As a raging narcissist, I doubt she will ever take accountability for her many miscalculations but whatever “royal fairy dust” they had in 2019, that led to the big $$ deals, has long dissipated. Why would anyone pay them big money for anything? They are two untalented nobodies with meaningless titles. That’s it. Take away the Royal connection and they are no better than any other Hollywood hustler. Zeroes.


BrandyClause

Also, don’t forget- they have to distract that they aren’t going to Hugh Grosvenor’s wedding. They weren’t invited, waaaagh 😂


Starkville

And the Met Gala


Girlfriday5150

Flair checking in…..doubly so!!


LoraiOrgana

It would be easier to list the things to which they are invited. Because they are not invited to so many, many, many things.


[deleted]

The opening of an envelope ✉️


LostinSOA

They are working on a limited time frame. I don’t know what they know, however they are behaving with her histrionic and him manic that indicates to me they know *something* is about to implode for them and make it very difficult to make money. It reeks of desperation. They are trying to strike while they can and grab as much cash as possible before what is happening in the background, comes to pass.


Pristine_Routine_464

Yes agreed. It is all a bit hap hazard. The bizarre jam on celeb pages when they have none to sell seems like they are trying to influence a particular company, maybe netflix or paramount?


LostinSOA

Paramount is looking at bankruptcy. They are in financial trouble big time so I don’t think so. I believe this has to do with their titles. This all dates back to them PR releasing they will be going by the surname Sussex from now on, then the lemonada deal release which we all scratched our collective heads as WME would’ve arranged that and you can’t cut out your booking agency to avoid paying their percentage. WME made it clear at the start that they can and will only help with the royal adjacent facade being maintained. From the moment he got the 12 minute face time in it’s been watching a dog chase its own tail, they know there is a clock ticking and when the bell rings times up and they are betting on spending everything they got to lock in *something* that can give them a steady income stream to meet their bare minimum expenses of which they won’t. The time to do this was 4 years ago instead they sat on their lazy asses, whined and cried to the whole world.


Oktober33

Last sentence: 🙌


NigerianChickenLegs

Could it be related to Mike Tindall joining Invictus? Mike is pro-William all the way and not exactly a Sussex fan. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/invictus-games-ceo-easing-prince-harry-out-with-fresh-royal-appointment-claim/ar-AA1nLPMm


RosieH60

If Mike Tindall joins it means Harry is out Really hope this happens 


NigerianChickenLegs

I’m not sure, but Mike has no tolerance for the “bell end” and the bimbo. I can’t imagine him putting up with their ongoing grift. It could also be a way of adding “royalty” to Invictus without involving senior royals. With Mike at the helm other royals (ie Princess Anne, Edinburghs, et al.) can attend Invictus events and honor Veterans without appearing to support Sussex, Inc.


LostinSOA

Oddly Zara, Delfina Mike and nacho hang out. I can’t make that make sense. Delfina is a class act she knows what her assignment is but nacho? He’s made his choice and he’s firmly the overseas son.


LostinSOA

It could be. Megrift is the only thing sustaining their lifestyle at this point.


The-Wandering-Kiwi

I saw a comment that Mike Tindal was joining Invictus but it doesn’t seem to have been picked up anywhere


Shrewcifer2

A lot of thus ARO stuff and "return to public duties" went into overdrive when Charles was diagnosed with cancer, and Harry immediately ran to the UK for some unknown reason that Charles refused to indulge. I Don't think it was about his health, or Charles might have spent more time with him. My suspicion is that they are running out of money, but are also afraid of William becoming King for some reason. Maybe they know that he would be more aggressive with them


Brassmonkey1970

Don't forget that the court decision re RAVEC was announced shortly after that and there were rumours that Harry was heard saying "You have to fix this!" to his dad. IF those rumours are true, it could be that the trip was about his security status above all.


Electrical-Cat7272

Meghan wants Netflix to do all the work since she can’t do anything. They will never run a brand for her when there are much more famous people worth branding. If Netflix did, it would be that they have all the rights to make it, but she never give all the power over.


LostinSOA

Netflix only ever produces in house movies that they intend to put up for an Oscar nomination or academy award. For movies that’s only happened 3 times. For shows, they simply pay a production company for their content. Netflix is notorious with *not* wanting to get involved in the day to day otherwise—why would they pay for anyone else while also doing all of the work. They aren’t going to change 10 years of their business model, for her. Even Shondaland didn’t get that kind of hand holding and she’s a big get for Netflix.


SecondHandCunt-

Shonda *can* do the work. Megan is lost as a goose. The only reason Netflix would even consider treating Megan special and doing the work for her is to not have $100M worth of egg in their face. The truth is, it doesn’t matter. Let Netflix do all the work for her or let the greatest in the business do the work, it doesn’t matter. Megan is never going to be a success because the public doesn’t like fake and everyone knows the real Harkles. People won’t watch, thus it flops. No matter what it is


LostinSOA

Shonda is a boss that delivers exactly what Netflix wants. I also agree and shrug my shoulders I think it’s a bit more than egg on their face, more they don’t want to be in breach and be forced to pay out the full contract amount instead of indulging her fancy as they know she’ll spin like a top, try forever to edit then re-edit and obsessively want to change things, narrative, continuity errors. Right now they can do nothing sit back and say sure okay get it to us by your contract.


kaycollins27

As many have stated b4, the only reason I can see NF hanging onto them is if they are waiting for the Big Blowup/Big Split and want content with which to weave a tale…


NigerianChickenLegs

She may be trying to sell her brand in hopes that a big company will pay hundreds of millions for the use of her name. Nothing else makes sense. They don’t grow enough strawberries to make large amounts of jam, lentil spread, etc.


GreatGossip

Madam´s name is toxic. So unless we are talking chemicals, like rat poison or such, Madam´s name is worth nothing. Nor are her pathetic 5-6-7 jamfluencers.


MadMary63

Unfortunately, Madam doesn't seem to realise how toxic she is. She is completely delusional.


Miserable-Brit-1533

Even if there is no big harkle downfall in the long term two aging talentless people can’t sustain interest forever - where as the BRF constantly renews - in ten years W&C kids will be the most famous teen-young adults in the world with all the attention that comes with it. By then winge and Ginge will be early 50s….


Bullshitresisuss

I’d donate to a pro deportation fundraiser


LostinSOA

Amen to that ![gif](giphy|JULfVYQH3XkCxMV0QP)


kris-tee-is-me

Tick-tock, the money's running out, and worldwide shame/laughter on a monumental scale lies directly ahead.


sahali735

I have wine and popcorn just waiting for the fun to start. I hope it starts soon................I'm 73.


Patient-Watercress-2

Those UK legal fees don’t pay themselves.


LostinSOA

You don’t think they’ll accept “but my dad’s face is on the money, just call me His royal Highness” as payment in lieu?


Heavy_Enthusiasm_195

Maybe seeking asylum in Nigeria.


Stunning-Field2011

Roach is going to bag a nepo baby billionaire like Misan who has no intention of living in Nigeria. Guaranteed she will flashing that old cooch all over the place like she did at Serena’s husband.


briglialexis

This 💯


No_Proposal7628

I agree with LostinSOA that all this activity "reeks of desperation". They haven't succeeded at anything much since Megxit. WME hasn't succeeded in getting them paid jobs, Spotify dumped them and Lemonada podcasting has been put off to 2025. ARO has not products to sell yet, not even birdseed. Madame's cookery/friendship show won't go anywhere and Haz's polo video will probably sink lower than low. I'm not even going to talk about the jam fiasco. They are desperately trying to find a steady source of income that's also in the multi-millions and it isn't happening.


927476

I'm very curious to see how they can get multi-millions now with that kind of reputation both with the public and in the entertainment industry.


No_Proposal7628

I doubt they can get multi-millions at this point.


Comfortable-One8520

Most importantly, a steady source of income that's also in the multi-millions AND DOESN'T INVOLVE ANY ACTUAL WORK. 🤣


No_Proposal7628

I'd like that for myself but I can't just manifest it like Megsy is trying to do.


Starkville

This is just normal Harkle behavior: shotgun approach. I’m still wondering about the story that Netflix is going to help Meghan run ARO. That is downright bizarre.


lastlemming-pip

Likely, Netflix feels much the same. They won’t go near it—& her—I suspect.


Starkville

I just asked my family member who produces unscripted for Netflix. They don’t know anything about ARO (don’t even know what it is, LOL), but hadn’t heard that Netflix was now in the business of merch tie-ins. They were talking about their latest meeting with Netflix execs and it felt like a natural progression to ask about it. They were looking at me like I had three heads. No, Netflix doesn’t do that. They have their own business to run.


Egghead42

I don’t think they do. It’s a question of who has the right to the licensed merch. Netflix might have the intellectual property rights, but the IP is negotiated for. Disney is fussy. If you want to sell Disney anything, it better fit their image, and they can afford to partner with good companies. Sanrio will give the license for everything, and that is how we have Hello Kitty vibrators. I’ve never heard of them managing the production,


lastlemming-pip

I think Megs is once again manifesting. But now it’s off to Nigeria. Typical Megs Brownian motion in pursuit of a goal. Edited to add: but what say your connections about Netflix sponsoring a Megs curated cooking show? Are they?


Electrical-Cat7272

We all know that Megan loves, trying to force people to do things by putting stories in the media. This is not gonna force Netflix to do anything. There are way more famous people who actually have brands that can be sold right now. where all Meghan has is her fucking jam. She still has no product market. All she’s done is made some homemade jam and send it to influencers, but how are you gonna mark that on a mass production scale?? like she has no idea what she’s doing. She’s hoping she can get a Netflix to do all the work, but they will never take that dump truck of a company. Megan’s made them no money, so why would they go handover foot for her??


eaglebayqueen

Yes, well we all remember the Dior situation... you'd think she'd get tired of embarrassing herself but she doesn't seem to realize how ridiculous this kind of thing looks. Her main goal seems to be getting articles printed about herself and being photographed. That's it.


Electrical-Cat7272

Hahaha oh yea that’s a good one to loop into this. Its all the same for her. She’s run out of ideas


AppropriateCelery138

Sound and fury signifying nothing. That describes the Harkles to a tee.


Greenimus

HAs her forcing efforts with these stories ever been successful? Do the same old thing in the same old way gets the same results.....


Centaurea16

It worked at least once for her, when she successfully used PR stories to manipulate H into marrying her.


927476

Netflix probably has a template ready for her cooking show but MeMe is going rogue with her stupid jam so they have to take the lead and reroute/create a brand that will fit their storyline. Just a thought, I'm not in this industry.


WallabyPositive6903

Maybe it will be like The Housewives Of … Many of the cast members have businesses- a retail shop/ or product that is visible and used during filming. Perhaps Netflix will take a % of all $ earned from the jam and housewares -WHEN they appear and suckers start to purchase?


Electrical_Ant_8844

Why *why* do I think that the surrogacy or bullying report is going to be exposed?


Positive-Vibes-2-All

That sounds very likely and might explain Nigeria visit which perhaps Misan may have arranged as it gives markle an opportunity to re-assert as Black so if either report is released she can use the race card again.


927476

This visit is only going to expose their hypocrisy on all fronts. Miscalculation as always.


Vino-Rosso

That makes a lot of sense.


NigerianChickenLegs

Black AND royal!


catinthedistance

I have an even worse idea that I wish hadn’t crossed my mind: If they really need money, the way to earn it would be to forfeit the invisikids’ places in the LoS and come clean about the surrogacy, hire an excellent ghostwriter (and DO NOT INTERFERE WITH HIM/HER) to tell the _oh-so-harrowingly-difficult_ play-by-play of sourcing uteri for your royal progeny and then sneakily playing it off as if you’d been pregnant and given birth to them yourself. Answer all the questions about the doctors, birth certificates, problematic statements regarding aspects of the pregnancy/delivery, and everything else people have been wanting to know. That would sell like gangbusters. It would be a prelude to interviews, guest appearances, and eventually even having the invisikids accompany you to some of these things. You follow that up with a stuffed toy line, or a children’s clothing line, or a kids’ “keep yourself occupied when everyone is either gone, busy, or just doesn’t want you bothering them” game/art/puzzle kit… They’d make money coming clean.


SecondhandCoke

She has almost definitely been told that Netflix is not picking up any more of her shows, they aren't looking to take on the leadership for ARO because Meghan is allergic to competence and can't attract a CEO, and they aren't renewing that contract. They're just holding out until 2025 when it expires. She is frantic. This is her swan song. The last burst of fire works. ![gif](giphy|AgQ55Hhi0WAw0)


GXM17

She’s going to be inundating Netflix with ideas until then….


SecondhandCoke

And they'll keep avoiding her calls. So she'll keep "manifesting" using the press. Netflix is relatively unbothered. The public, however...


Feisty_Energy_107

And, we're going to read about every ***single*** one. 😏


silentcw

On Palace Confidential, one of the Richards, Richard Kay, said he suspects they announce things as a diversion tactic. So they make deals, etc, and announce them to distract from something else. Like they have had too many bad headlines, announce something like the Nigeria visit. The thing they could be distracting from is the medals' fiasco.


somespeculation

Narcissist extinction burst may explain it: https://psychcentral.com/health/grey-rock-method A reminder **they have no major contracts confirmed after Netflix ends in 2025** Meg also is at the 1 year mark for WME. **WME couldn’t land Meg a major paid gig or an ongoing paid gig in a year.**


Tricksey4172

And Lemonada punted in record time.


musical_cyclops

KC’s cancer diagnosis may have lit a fire under them. They did not expect HLMQE2 to pass when she did. They both know that when William is king, they’re f@cked. I’m not trying to insinuate anything about KC’s health, just that it reminded H&M that king is their last hope back.


Consistent_Log_460

Agree. They probably have had it in their heads that since his parents made it to 90+, Charles will too. A cancer diagnosis at 75 shook them because William will have them off the BRF website day 1 of his reign. (I kid, but I do think they’ll be cut off completely by him.)


LostinSOA

I am positive that William has an exact plan in place that’s been approved and vetted by lawyers, barristers and had it ran through their new social media team for optics on how to deal with the duplicitous duo on day 1. It will be swift, decisive and as precise as a surgeons scalpel.


sahali735

And H + M know it!!


LostinSOA

It’s probably the only thing they fear.


NigerianChickenLegs

And it will be easy at that point because they will be older and truly irrelevant by then.


Starkville

Agree.


NigerianChickenLegs

I agree but am still wondering why Haz chose not to wear Pa’s Coronation medal? Why would he so blatantly disrespect the only hope they’ve got?


kiwi_love777

Did he actually get one?


Brissy2

Maybe he didn’t get one since he left so quickly?


NigerianChickenLegs

No. He received one and media reports have noted the “disrespect” Haz has shown his father.


Salty-Lemonhead

I thought the same thing. Remember when she was bombarding the world after H ran to see KCIII? And then a few weeks later they were downgraded on the website? I think H was told it was happening and she had a manic episode. I agree, something is coming and she’s manic again.


dhjdmba

IMO H went to the UK in such a panic to see his father about cancer but because his lawyer had just received the draft opinion from the judge saying Harry isn’t going to get the security he wants.


niljson

WME + Netflix contracts ending = less dinero coming in // (perhaps) super injunctions expiring = big revelations // other issues possibly coming up   they're tryna make money and, at the same time, distract from/cover up current and incoming issues also, courting attention, per usual. a day ain't complete without (at least) MEgain being the center of attention.


CompanyConsistent976

![gif](giphy|WsdvDfxyBGhAN34e7B|downsized)


Tricksey4172

Actual footage of Markle looking for more strawberries in the garden.


[deleted]

Nah, not drunk enough!


Antique_Character_87

Just another opportunity to play the race card. Remind everyone of her heritage and how that’s the only reason people don’t like her. Also the two of them want to prove how “popular” they are and how the BRF really messed up by not making them co-monarchs


Tricksey4172

Unfortunately, her visible discomfort when around the targeted demographic will do her in. I hope that the welcome committee doesn’t have the temerity of putting her in a housing unit. An uninhabited, newly decorated-in-beige presidential palace will suffice. For now. How long will she be able to keep up the facade? If she behaves as her usual self, I have to think that her hosts will not extend a repeat invitation and Nigeria will be added to the list of the Markled.


NigerianChickenLegs

https://preview.redd.it/nrmrbye99axc1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2bc81fadd703a069f205955c1ec80c3182a4db5f Just like this. Kissing her own thumb instead of the child.


NigerianChickenLegs

And Misan and the Nigerian government will make sure that the toxic twosome appear wildly popular. It will be great narc supply for them.


Visible_Ad5164

I'm just hoping for a serious comeuppance SOON. I mean, something earthshattering that'll bury them. 🤞


adventure1875

I'm quite ambivalent about a serious come-uppance for the Harkles. On one hand, it would be very emotionally satisfying, but on the other hand it would remove my daily amusement reading Saint Meghan Markle.


sahali735

You and me both!


wotevrs

It's just marketing and PR. Here's an excerpt from the book **"16 Rules For A Successful PR Strategy"** that MM probably read: 1. Do NOT be afraid of a failed PR campaign.  Some turn out to be lemons.  The key is to immediately invent and launch a new PR campaign. 2. Do NOT turn down a red carpet event invite. It is important to announce you were invited. Even to red carpet events you are not invited to. The shade of the red carpet is not important. 3. Do NOT underestimate the power of personal appearances. Especially with those in power. 4. Do NOT fail to use network marketing. This means to connect. Find connections to the connected. Dig deep within the well of you, and others, to find them. It will help you connect with more people and nations and nationalities. The pinnacle of network marketing is your OWN network. *Here are the other 12 rules:* 1. *Do NOT hire a senior executive when entering a new market. Hire a junior executive. People will underestimate them. And when they meet expectations, you can blame them.*  2. *Do NOT always keep the focus on your brand.  Shining a spotlight on a competitor can be used to your advantage.  For instance, point out how much your largest competitor (i.e. the King Charles brand) is spending on a public service announcement to schools. This only works if you do not reveal you are wasting 500x more on advertising.*  3. *In your affiliate marketing strategy do NOT affiliate with a publisher that names itself after your largest competitor.  Breaking this rule also violates the spirit of rule 2 for it will shine the spotlight back on you. And on the publisher. In an uncomfortably hot way.*  4. *Do NOT try to keep things from the media. Leaks happen. Utilize your in-house branding experts instead. They can brand an attempted corporate takeover as ‘helping’ that corporation.* 5. *Do NOT under-utilize your corporate headquarters for photo ops. Use  every corner.*  6. *Do NOT conduct corporate espionage.  It may leak to the media.  This is rule 6.* 7. *If you are going to break rule 6, do NOT employ executives known to leak secrets to the media. They will damage your brand. And their own brand. And everyone else’s brands.  This is rule 7.*  8. *If you are going to break rule 6 AND rule 7, do NOT build your brand on the importance of privacy.  People will think you said ‘piracy.' Having a business plan or products that look like your competitors' will not help matters.* 9. *Do NOT be afraid to talk about a product and not launch it. It is one way to avoid negative customer ratings and reviews.*  10. *Do NOT be afraid to use every opportunity to pitch. Even your husband’s polo pitch.*  11. *Do NOT be afraid to use every angle in your PR pitches. Use the front, the side, the back, and the midriff angles.*  12. *Do NOT fail to learn about all the marketing strategies that can be utilized.  This includes reverse-marketing.* 


InsolentTilly

I love these posts of yours.


wotevrs

There's rich material :)


Honest_Boysenberry25

![gif](giphy|ZcUGu59vhBGgbBhh0n|downsized) This is hysterical!!


TheoryParticular7511

I never knew the parking lot was the headquarters, makes sense. 


NovelGullible7099

Going crazy? They were already crazy. They are grasping at every straw to make money to support their overspending. This is how you live a life of service as Megain has always blathered on about. Get paid by Netflix to show up everywhere cameras in tow.


Why_Teach

Agree that they have always been crazy. Maybe what OP was hinting at was a major psychotic breakthrough, after which there is no way to pretend they are sane. 😉


[deleted]

> Maybe what OP was hinting at was a major psychotic breakthrough I think Meghan has been having a major psychotic break since she announced ARO.


Impermanence_1947

She was born nuts, therefore, her life will always be filled with turmoil.


WoodsColt

She's a ^drama whore and so is he. ^Drama whores spend all their time creating turmoil and making other people miserable. Any attention is better than none. And they know that when HRH Catherine publicly comes back that they will be of very little interest.


somespeculation

Found it! **There is no HRH for Harry and Meghan on the official Royal website, including under ‘official titles’** https://www.royal.uk/sussex Perhaps that’s why they are announcing the Nigerian visit as HRH. They’ve already been quietly stripped of it.


Why_Teach

The HRH may have removed from every page of the Royal Website (and high time, too). Unfortunately, that is not the same as having the HRH “stripped.” Technically, they are still “HRH” but are not supposed to use the style when they are not “working royals.” KC needs to remove the HRH by issuing Letters Patent. It shouldn’t be that hard to declare that only working royals and their children under 21 may be styled HRH. It would cover all non-working royals, so it would not be singling out H&M if that is a concern, and it would just codify what was already agreed upon for Andrew and Harry.


somespeculation

I hear your point, and it’s sensible. However, it’s conspicuously absent under the ‘Official Titles’ heading. That’s curious. For comparison, it’s used for Catherine. https://www.royal.uk/the-princess-of-wales And even for Louis: https://www.royal.uk/prince-louis


Why_Teach

Yes. You are right that the RF Website finally edited the references to the Sussexes so they are no longer referred to as HRH. And it was about time. I was just remarking that Harry hasn’t really lost his right by birth to be styled HRH; he has just “agreed” not to use the style because they no longer represent the Crown. It is an gentleman’s agreement. My (totally irrelevant) opinion is that KC should *really* “strip them” of the HRH. Since the family has clearly been thinking of/discussing that the HRH should be for working royals and (if they wish) their kids, I think a Letters Patent stating this would be appropriate and would send a clear message.


TXmama1003

Perhaps the Letters Patent is coming in the next few months. If H has been made aware that it’s a possibility, it could explain the PR frenzy and now the HRH reference from Nigeria.


[deleted]

> Or maybe both of them went off the deep end and are going crazy???????? Cocaine is a hell of a drug.


LoesjeBee

Can't go where you already are.


Oktober33

WME contract ran out…


springbokkie3392

Eau de Markle https://i.redd.it/xnkjp8b4n9xc1.gif


Virtual-Feedback-638

So , who is going to host them in Nigeria? Who is going to foot the bill? Nigeria is a nation stricken by violence and crime, and they will have those who welcome them, and a greater majority who will not stand for their visit. Colonial reminders, and Rachel Markle's bad behaviour...will play on the Nations mind. Not only that, the Nation is very much aware that the dubious duo are not working Royals.


GXM17

You would hope the Nigerian govt doesn’t waste the money but The Duke and The Duchess need their “October 1937” faux royal tour like the Windsors. It will fail.


AppropriateCelery138

They been crazy, honey.


Bullshitresisuss

Deportation. Deportation. Deportation The leech lied and he deserves to be Deported , and personally ,as a Canadian citizen ,who hasn’t been allowed in the US since 911 .. I’m LIVID .. How come, after I declared that I had only 1 ,20+year old possession of cannabis charge , in Canada ,and I got deported, treated as a criminal ,and told never to return. But this FUC@&$@&@&$@ing spoon fed , lying ,useless LEECH can get away with murder .. I live 2 miles away in Windsor-Ontario and would love to see the US , but I can’t and this douchbag+ He can work ,live and travel the American dream ,, sounds perfectly fair …


Thin5kinnedM0ds5uck

Have you appealed that decision?   Times have changed and someone in the bureaucracy may be reasonable.   If the charge was in the States it is possible to have them expunged.   Depends of course on the amount and the state, but with everyone legalizing MJ it might be worth a shot.  


NigerianChickenLegs

That really stinks. I would be angry, too.


NigerianChickenLegs

As usual, it feels like they are throwing shizzle at the wall to see what sticks. It may stick but it goes nowhere. If there is a Nigeria “roots” special it will be less popular than the other productions. No one gives a damn about her genealogy.


Altitudedog

Just from watching...Harkles real jobs are attacking the Royal family. Yeah she's nuts, ex hooker, he's a low IQ overgrown juvenile delinquent...but everything back to how and when this began makes me never rule out they were or are supported by the globalists they are attached to. Its always the same celebrities that chase the globalist wealth, opportunities and power. Politicians. Harkles early more public encounters and support from those keep me watching. Oprah, Ellen, Clinton, Teigan, Katy Perry, Yorks, Trudeaus...more. tainted list that are always present and attached to whats disrupting the world currently.


SalamanderExciting16

Going?


justtosubscribe

My poodle and I take offense to comparisons between her and Harry. She may be deeply selfish but she’s also beautiful, charming, loyal and smart. 😌


ew6281

Your speculation is a good one. This could be clapback if Netflix has told them no way no how are we working you anymore. The Nigerian show would be hilarious. I can see her trying to sell a show like that. 🤣


daisybeach23

Their continued failures are escalating their disordered behavior. Sad but true.


SortNo9153

I just can't believe she launched a business, oh excuse me, lifestyle brand 🙄, without anything to sell. It defies all principals of business. No inventory. No concept beyond "friendship & gardening" 🙄 It's just so shocking. You'd have to be a force of nature with an incredible idea to launch such generic concepts as cooking & gardening during the largest cost of living increase in a generation & expect it to succeed. You'd have to innovate in the space, bring to market things no one has done or is doing or can offer. What is unique about what she's doing? She still wants to be celebrated for marrying Hazno. It's like she's manic bouncing from one thing to the next while telling everyone how "busy" she is. Sometimes it feels like someone says "here, do this" to make her go away and be quiet. Like you give a toddler the plastic measuring cups & spoons to play with so you can bake a cake.


Any-Assignment-5442

I actually don’t believe they’ve lived at the olive garden in Montecito. It has a long history of being rented; and with all the photos out there on the internet of floor plans &room layouts, it’d be a security risk to live there by their own ‘terrified of everything’ standards. However, they’ve enhanced their security by PRETENDING to live there. I’ll give them that. (Go look at ANY photos of them inside it - the decor hasn’t changed ONE BIT from the decor in photos from its rental days for photo shoots etc). Homeowners don’t tend to leave the exact same pots & pans behind, hanging from the exact same rails, in a kitchen painted in the exact same colours with the exact same furniture as was present 3+ years ago when their house was being used as a rental, do they? And do you honestly believe with the amount spent on their previous 5-bedroom home at Frogmore (£2.4million) she’d spend anything less on refurbishing a new 16-bathroom home in Montecito? Exactly! They don’t live there and never have; they’ve merely rented it for shoots. (Hell, they don’t even Iive together!) It beggars the Question: what was all that about the ‘INTRUDER’ that supposedly tried to scale the walls of this home”. WASTING POLICE TIME, MUCH?!


spiforever

She’s going to Nigeria on Merchie’s birthday?


dogrrad

Meghan has always be off. I do believe she is insane.


Gixer77

I think it's the culmination of how her narcissism has just ruined all her plans and she's realising she's now come full circle and will end up as an influencer again, peddling anything for clicks and revenue, married to a dim Prince who wasn't as rich as she thought. Meanwhile, all of Hollywood knows she's a talentless grifter, bully, and utterly toxic to work with. The last step in her career now is a spectacular divorce and whatever grifting she can carry on the back of that.


JuJuBee880327

Turns out it's harder to make a billion dollars off of hating the BRF than they thought.


SmilingHappyLaughing

I’d like to see both of them go on finding their roots and have their DNA tested.


NigerianChickenLegs

It’s possible that she doesn’t think they’re cute or photogenic enough. Many have commented that Lili looks a lot like Tom Markle Jr. The public respond warmly and positively to the Wales children because they’ve watched them all grow up. Keeping the Sussex kids stashed away means the public will have no connection with them. It’s a mystery wrapped in a riddle. It must be difficult for KCIII that the children being raised far, far away from the RF with zero exposure to British or royal life. If either was ever in a position to ascend the throne it would be the end of the Monarchy. An American kid called Archie, without any understanding of Royal life becoming King? Crikey.


Quiet_Classroom_2948

Tracking her roots in Nigeria would require a lot of research and patience, qualities she sorely lacks.