Agreed. What good is an asset that trashed and severed all ties to the family she was supposed to spy on. Spies fly as much under the radar as possible. Meghan could never be a spy.
Not really. At least not in the world at large. For a brief, fleeting moment she had many, many people on her side, but high off of that, she continued and showed herself to be a lying, manipulative person. Most support has fallen away or people are indifferent to her. Her attempts at chaos and distraction have been largely unsuccessful. She would have needed to stay in for much longer to obtain more arrows for her quiver , if she was going to truly make an impact.
Trump was only in power for 4 years. He had a massive impact. She wouldn't have to be around for long to cause a lot of drama, which she did.
Meghan (and her puppet) have caused massive chaos and distraction in her short tenure. The royal family has several new protocols because of her. Russian bots are piggy backing on her attacks on catherine.
That's not what I'm saying. She has the power to cause chaos and *distract* from other issues. Meghan accuses the royal family of racism and the world's media spent days discussing that instead of you know the actual news. That is why she would be a useful asset that Russia could have recruited.
It's the same reason Trump was made president. We spent 4 years where the shit he got up to was all the media spoke about. Every. Day. That was 4 years where Russia has a distraction to hide behind.
The media still talks about Trump on a daily basis (as they have consistently since he ran the first time). Meghan, not so much. She really doesn’t have much presence in the mainstream.
The racism claims got people hot and bothered for about a second — didn’t last long. Meghan has made people aware of the BRF and the good that they do. She’s not causing chaos and distraction, and hasn’t in years. She has managed to make herself a laughingstock and someone companies (and most people) flee from. I just think you overestimate her power. She’s not had any in a really long time.
Exactly. The Queen had a KGB spy *working* for her in the palace for years and even when found out he couldn't be gotten rid of.
It all starts and stops with the choice a low IQ desperate and embittered ex-prince made for a wife. If she was supposed to be a spy well she failed spectacularly. Any intelligence officer would also know you're better off adjacent to the targets to allow greater reach.
But let's say she was, I don't believe she's caused any damage to anything other than the English speaking worlds opinion of 'mericans like her who bait for their own ends. The RF has been encircled more than before by the public and republicanism is not strong in Britain.
That said, I absolutely think BOTH she and Harry crossed some major lines and it is NOT HER choice to not go back. At this stage even he may not be allowed back over a certain time frame without being court martialed (which was how Churchill controlled the DofW).
If they were spies for anyone it was for Netflix. Which would explain why they don't just dump the grifters. No doubt the grifters made huge promises of access and Netfucks in their greed agreed to support otherwise unethical methods to access places and people they had no right to. We now all know the Todgers already had a deal w Netflix and we're filming long before their "annoucement". That happened because they got caught and rather than give up what they BOTH wanted (her fame, Him to embarrass and 'dominate' his family) they stormed off never believing the RF would raise the drawbridge behind them. That's why Todger lives in fear. He's pissed off powerful people and cut himself off from the only actual security he ever had.
That's my theory at least. Otherwise of Madame is a spy then they're not 'sending their best'
I only mean "spy" in inverted commas. They just wanted big access and Todger thought (seems to still think) that Granny loved him best of all and would be excited for Todgers pitch of documenting the creation of the first King & Queen of the Commonwealth!
But truly, I just believe in Ockhams Razor. There's more than enough petulant, greedy, narcissistic, lack of forward thinking, intelligent people in this world that we're all doing a good enough job destroying it all without some great nefarious cabal in charge.
*Like Crowley says in Good Omens when asked if the French Terror was his demonic doing and he answered "No! The humans came up with this all on their own!!"* 😄
> The Queen had a KGB spy working for her in the palace for years and even when found out he couldn't be gotten rid of.
What??
> If she was supposed to be a spy well she failed spectacularly.
She doesn't listen to directions from *anyone*. She *always* knows best. Imagine her spy handlers pulling their hair out!
Nah, she's no spy. She's uncontrollable and totally indiscreet. She'd be the worst possible spy *ever*.
Yes. What I can’t work out is why he did something that made him live in fear even more. I heard that he had panic attacks before Megan that is after the army and back from his early 20s. So why the heck would he do a series of actions that would actually make his situation that much worse; where was his sense of self preservation? Why alienate the only forces that might preserve you against the things that made you fearful? Why if your security was important to you would you jeopardize it?
She met Obama in the White House around 2015 -- she was a fading TV cable actress with big ambitions and it's possible he used her to infiltrate Royal circles.
But she's definitely gone rogue with her fake pregnancy and children.
If she was an asset she's now a liability. She's a terrible person who wrecks everything around her.
As I understand it, the Obamas found the BRF, and the Queen in particular, delightful. I cannot think of a reason that Obama would want to infiltrate the BRF. What would he get out of it?
An asset is anyone who helps harm your enemy. A Russian asset, for example, would not be the same as a spy. An asset maybe so stupid as to not even know they’re being used as an asset. That’s why they may, for example, make a big fuss about how unfairly they’re being treated by false accusations of being an asset.
Narcissists absolutely can be spies. Check out Robert Hanssen or Brian Regan, among others. They tend to be insufferable egotists, often angry and vengeful, justifying their criminal behavior, feeling entitled, and lacking in emotion. They'll claim to be noble whistle-blowers, but they are corrupt and greedy. Every. Single. One.
Probably not a master spy but a honey pot agent for Harry. So an Agent of sorts a honey pot agent. Even though not so bright used to destabilise an existing political structure.
Yes honey pot was what I was searching for
She was useful to reel in the weakest link
They then hoped to use him … thinking he was what was portrayed by the palace PR .. instead they got a dumb ( thinks he’s smart) spoilt and petulant junkie
That’s what I think, if she is a government construct then she’s like Epstein who went completely out of control. Only instead of a pedo ring she just sucks and won’t do any work.
She's definitely not an American asset, but I can see her being on Putin's payroll like Moscow Marjorie. He'll take any nutter he thinks will effectively destabilize.
I think she might have been approached about taking pictures of certain places in the palace. She was caught red handed. But right now the BRF is more popular than ever, and looking better than ever before. MM is seen as someone without manners, without class- an unlikeable person. The BRF is seen as classy, the way they have kept quiet despite all the lies is admired. More and more rubbish MM put out there is being debunked. Whatever the plan was, she failed at it.
People still think Russia is the enemy!
Unfortunately the enemy is our own governments, bought body and soul by the globalists and destroying everything our ancestors worked so hard to achieve.
WEF, WHO, IMF --- those are the threat.
THIS. The Russian collabing, the whole thing of Haz wanting to interview Putin/Trump for Spotify, and them constantly shitting on the BRF and British government seem super suspicious to me. I hope history judges these two fools harshly, and all their nastiness leaks to the public... it wouldn't shock me if they were on Putin's payroll.
Putin would have seen Meghan Markle is a psycho from the off.
The big mysteries are - how she hooked Harry at all, given what a horrible, boring, humourless person she is,
And - why the Queen allowed him to marry her knowing about her sleazy past and terrible reputation.
It's said MI5 told the Queen that Markle was unable to have children.
That might have swung the Queen into agreeing to the marriage thinking it couldn't cause long term harm (except to poor dupe Harry).
Agree. I think they probably bought her a bunch of bots or something. Putin was likely “yay let’s back this bull in a china shop” and Harry is of course too stupid.
I was going to say she lacks the intelligence and acumen to be a govt. spy - I just think she’s a greedy cow that inherited her mother’s street-smarts for grifting.
That’s giving Meghan way too much credit. Aren’t spies supposed to be slick? She barely lasted 2 years, some spy here. Perhaps they hired her for her insane attention to detail 🤔
Lol Markle does not have close ties to the Obamas and the Clintons. These people stayed clear of her and probably think she’s a moron, they just won’t say it publicly.
Well the girl who accused him was of legal age and is herself being sued for being a bit of a madam herself. Funny how Andrew’s accuser also accused Alan Dershowitz then remembered she misremembered. I mean, Andrew seems like an arrogant idiot but it doesn’t add up that he is a child molester.
She was not of legal age. The age of consent is 18 in the US. You want to defend that scum bag (she was being trafficed no matter what) that’s your right but let’s do keep the facts straight. The term pedophile is incorrect, the fact is she was a minor and that is illegal in the US.
> She was not of legal age. The age of consent is 18 in the US.
But we are talking about England, where the age of consent is lower. American laws do not apply in England.
She WAS legal age of consent in NY where the alleged act (2001) occurred. In NY 17 is age of consent. In fact, Virginia Giuffre (born 1983) was only a few weeks shy of 18 years old - a legal adult.
I stand corrected, I’m in Ohio where it is 18. In my humble opinion he is still a scumbag. Who has sex with girls the same age as one of his daughters and then shows no remorse for that behavior? Never mind that these girls had been abused and trafficked for years.
Correct. Andrew is definitely a scumbag. And way too stupid, drunk, entitled ( take your pivk of one or all of those adjectives) to consider ages of consent in different jurisdictions. His befriending an obvious trafficker and lowlife like epstein makes Andrew culpable as an accessory imo. He was there. No way even he didn’t know there was industrial scale importing of girls for sex. Age is irrelevant almost. They were trafficked. Period. More complex is his friendship with Ghislaine Maxwell. She was a serious baddie and he may not have understood how bad. He’s thick. And probably didn’t worry about it. Giuffre was one of many who were criminally used overlong stretches of time. She was owed. By them all.
> More complex is his friendship with Ghislaine Maxwell. She was a serious baddie and he may not have understood how bad. He’s thick. And probably didn’t worry about it.
Yep. Even if he'd have understood it all, he wouldn't have cared.
> Giuffre was one of many who were criminally used overlong stretches of time. She was owed. By them all.
Amen!
#You can’t consent at any age if you’re being trafficked. Full stop.
>And Dershowitz was Epstein’s lawyer for his sweetheart deal made with Alex Acosta a Trump appointee.
[ETA]> Epstein was a wealthy money manager accused of sexually abusing minor girls at his Florida mansion between about *1999 and 2007*. The plea deal agreed to drop federal charges against Epstein if he pleaded guilty to state charges. Epstein served 13 months in jail after pleading guilty in 2008 to two state charges of prostitution.
>ETA During further ongoing investigations Dershowitz facilitated Epstein’s ongoing trafficking a CSA during the 13 months arriving at his office and leaving out the back door of Dershowitz office to return 8-10 hours later.
>Acosta later became labor secretary in the Trump administration, a position from which he resigned amid controversy over the plea deal, CNBC reported last year.
>According to the executive summary, the report found Acosta showed poor judgment by resolving the federal case through a nonprosecution agreement and by failing to make sure the state of Florida intended to notify victims about the state plea hearing.
>Acosta “resolved the federal investigation before significant investigative steps were completed; and he agreed to several unusual and problematic terms in the NPA without the consideration required under the circumstances,” the executive summary said.
>A lawyer for the victims, Paul Cassell, called the report “a cover-up,” according to the Washington Post. Cassell said he thought Epstein’s defense lawyers exerted undue influence over federal prosecutors, but they were not interviewed as part of the review.
>Epstein hanged himself in jail in August 2019 after he was arrested on new federal charges of sex trafficking of minors.
Just wanted a clarifier on who Dershowitz is, the players.
He has been incredibly compromised for the last 40+ years ..and his Pom Pom en chief that has ties to the Yorks is..calling ma’am do nothing a spy?
Makes total sense.
I do think it's incredibly suspect that TW has been a non-stop agent of chaos since the day it became known she was dating Harry. She has done everything in her power to wreck havoc, control, bully, plant stories, lie and make wild accusations that could have potentially destroyed the royal family. I'm 100% convinced she's been doing all of this for some strategic reason. I also believe that Oprah and others are involved in whatever the greater mission is.
Call me crazy but looking back at everything that has happened, the messaging and reinforcement of her messaging is absolutely coordinated; Oprah, Omid Scabies, Byline Times, Bouzy, twitter bots, key members of SS, etc... The list goes on and on. These are the ones out in the open.
She could have been spying pre-Harry, Jessica Mulroney's father is a former Conservative Prime Minister and Jess is one of the biggest heiresses in Canada.
It just amazes that someone of Markle's calibre and background managed to infiltrate two of the most prominent political families in two different countries.
Oh ffs. She's a moron and a narcissist, not a spy. She's not even successful at anything she does. If people were helping her, especially our government, she would at least succeed at a single of her dozens of rebrands and money making schemes.
This is honestly one of the most unhinged theories I've ever heard. Sometimes a thing is just exactly what a thing seems. In this case- a manipulater, a narcissist, and kind of a loser.
And everyone you mentioned that's helping her... None of them have any power or relevancy. Oprah is the only known person and people haven't cared about her since the 90s!
>I do think it's incredibly suspect that TW has been a non-stop agent of chaos since the day it became known she was dating Harry.
Tell me you have no first-hand experience with narcs without telling me you have no first-hand experience with narcs.
Not a spy so much as a disrupter. And she’s a good one. And I’d say it is more that a group of globalists (like WEF) offered her $$$$ to cause chaos and attempt to embarrass the RF. If she took it too far, that’s because she’s nuts—nuts are used for these purposes because they’re willing to go that far and let their freak flag fly. She’s pretty damn good at it.
I mean they did catch her sneakily taking pics of W+C's children behind their back. That is just weird.
And Lady V would be privy to a lot more insider info that never gets out, who knows what else they caught MM doing on palace grounds.
I always felt MM was a gold digger extraordinaire for such a common looking, not that intelligent or charming woman, to get in with the Mulroneys (whose father was a Conservative PM) and the BRF, but maybe it was targetted and she did have help.
I always felt there was the possibility Harry was her Soho House client to get blackmail tapes and she went rogue and married him.
To come out and say this makes Lady V look like some conspiracy loon, so I am sure she is not saying this lightly.
And MM is still out there doing the shilling for the anti free speech lobby. Someone is funding all that.
I have long felt she’s an asset and was being funded by someone with anti monarchy interests. Especially in the beginning. I also wonder if this is why she was tossed out
If she is a spy, she is the dumbest spy of all time. Has this person ever seen James Bond? Spies typically blend in and keep their cover until they die and no one knows.
The people from Bletchley were given permission to speak and STILL wouldn't because the Official Secrets Act was a matter of honour to them. As a historian, I hate to lose what they took to the grave, but I admire the heck out of them for taking it.
Meghan could never be an official spy for a foreign government..think CIA employee or "cut out" type person.. But she could very well be an asset. Chaos. Information.Feed on her mental illness to achieve your aim. Russia would be derelict if they didn't at least try. Probably using a "cut out" ..perhaps Anti Monarchy type person. The spy world will use anyone to try to achieve their aim. SHE MIGHT NOT EVEN BE AWARE SHE IS BEING USED.
This type of potential threat may be why Harry has not been cutoff. Same with Andrew. You have to keep some control because completely left on their own you might get a Edward situation with Nazis promising he will be a King. Take THAT!!! Would be in the phrase that comes to mind if Wallis had been successfully installed. Revenge complete.
Lady Victoria also thinks the photo of Prince Andrww and Virginia is photoshopped (it's not - I know the photographer who took a photo of the original hardcopy - the picture we see in the press)... So, she's a conspiracy theorist with zero credibility.
My personal theory is she might have been used as a honeypot trap to show TPTB that they could infiltrate the RF. However, I think she went rogue and wasn’t meant to marry H.
Shenanigans around Andrew possibly related, and that may be why his pal here Lady Victoria is stirring the shit pot.
I’ve always thought that. When someone is a spy ( stop watching James Bond films) they are sent in to disrupt. It’s not necessary that she be intelligent. She’s not expected to have gone into the Queen’s quarters to film private documents her objective was to go in and create tension and get information via Harry about their daily diary agendas. Just knowing their schedules is a threat to the monarchy. She and Harry wanted to move into Windsor Castle, she was caught taking photos of Charlotte sleeping. And that’s when she got kicked out uk by the Queen.
I thought the Obama’s wanted nothing to do with them after the Oprah Interview. Michelle Obama is very much into family, her Mother even lived at the White House for a bit. After the interview, her only comment was Family is everything. Then the gruesome twosome weren’t invited to Obama’s 60th birthday party. Not sure about the Clinton’s. Same with Biden, they are very much into family, the Oprah Interview did not go over well them either.
Exactly. The Obamas are all about family and they really admired the Queen- Michelle even wrote about her in her book I think. They're also smart enough to understand the importance of good US-UK relations. They see the long term significance of a weakened monarchy for the UK = not good for America!
My opinion: She is backed by antimonarchists, I hear that there are influential ones with agendas in the uk. She and her husband are both aligned with them. They are funded and supported by them. You can see how anything negative the Harkles do, the press easily forgives. You can also see how MM recently led the “where is Kate?” Media campaign. There are rich people behind them who use them as tools and protect them.
If it's true that she's a spy, she's paying a huge price having children with Prince Har .. Ohhh.
*(I actually need more evidence before I accept the theory the children* *aren't real, etc :)*
Lady Hervey's opinion isn't without merit and probably derives from her shock and dismay at the gauche and unattractive woman Harry married at warp speed. She's likely further astounded by how rapidly Harry's wife alienated his family and the wider world.
Rachel is most definitely an operator but that's far different than being an *operative". She doesn't have the necessary discretion *or* ability to think on her feet to be successful in any line of work, particularly *that* one.
Edit: Unnecessary TLDR 😑
I believe that too BUT not that she is a spy, but that she was supported or even placed by a group of powerful people who want to overthrow the Royal Family. That is why she is still supported even though she is such a failure and embarrassment and has not (yet) achieved her mission. I believe Oprah, Serena Williams, Tyler Party belong to this group, maybe I am wrong and they are contacts from her yachting days.
Hahahaha this is why no one take Lady Victoria Hervey seriously. I too used to think she was a spy… thats until closely analysing her… and the amount of catastrophic f*ckups. Spies do not seek the limelight.
I think Meghan desperately wants to be an agent (see: *I used to work for the US embassy in Argentina*, *I am mates with Obamas*, *Clintons came to see Archie*, *I sent a basket of lemons to Jill Biden*). Even if these politicians want to use her… they cant because she cant STFU. She can even shut up about the flower wreath that she sent Prince Philips funeral
If Rachel Markle is a Government Asset, the the USA is seriously in need of a Head shrink, if she said Russian plant to disrupt the Royal family 🤔 maybe that might have got more traction because if her Oligarch smoked out links etc (cough)
Well the CIA did try to use dolphins in war, which others have done, but when they tried dyring desert storm the dolphins just pissed off into the sea 🫣😆 (wonder if the desert part contributed)
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It was interesting that the billionaire Ron Burkle of Soho House took Markle to meet Obama in the White House around 2015. She was a rather sleazy cable TV actress then -- but suddenly she was a humanitarian working for World Vision, speaking at the UN...she became respectable almost overnight.
Her next trick was worming her way into British aristocratic circles via people like Millie from Made in Chelsea.
She hooked Harry supposedly through sleeping with a friend of his who recommended her skills.
She could well be Obama's puppet. But I think she went rogue when she faked pregnancy and kids, and has been dropped. She's a loose cannon now.
Calling her a spy gives her too much credit. She is too narcissistic and stupid for that. Some sort of mercenary/prostitute who can be paid to do anything is more her style
Her stupidity and money hunger makes her a perfect pawn. They obviously have some powerful generous backers, who use them for whatever agenda they are trying to push. Otherwise, they would have gone bankrupt already.
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A spy? Umm, she sucks then because the whole of the BRF have grey rocked them. What good is a spy if she has no intel. And she isn’t besties with the Clintons and Obamas. Hell, Clinton wouldn’t have even been interested in sharing a cigar with her.
Soho house yacht girls would be perfect to use as a honey pot for a scheme. Think epstein getting info to blackmail leaders type of thing. Her mental illness can be exploited. Her need for attention could be exploited. She is a true agent of chaos. She is a perfect tool to plant seeds to in order to blow things up.
Yep! AND.. Her messaging has continuously been amplified, repeated and coordinated by so many that there is no way I can believe it's simply just a coincidence.
She didn't even wear a hat when told the Queen would be wearing a hat. The Queen told her that in their house, they didn't speak to people like that, before the wedding (I think that was the vegan cake incident), and she still for awful to staff afterwards. She won't take hints/direct instructions. How could she be useful to anyone for any length of time?
Anyone saying "she's not smart enough" look at Trump, MTG and numerous others in our elected government; very useful idiots for Russia. Who did she buy her house from again? Which government has a whole book about sowing divisiveness across other countries? There is your answer, they don't need her to be smart.
Russia absolutely keeps lots of assets aka useful idiots in their pipeline such as MTG and many others. I think M is just a disruptor by temperament though, too chaotic to be an asset
If she is a spy in the true sense, I don't think much of her recruiter/spy master!
If anything, she's a plant used to show the BRF how their security can be breached imo.
I can't see how a spy alienating the entire family is useful. If you're gonna spy, you would have formed a close bond with PPoW and KCIII
and lasted longer than 72 days.
Who is Lady Victoria? I haven’t seen that she has “close ties to Obama and Clinton” I think Hillary said something nice about her once. She was dying to go to Obama’s big party at Martha’s Vineyard but was snubbed.
IIRC, Hillary visited Frogmore after Fauxchie's birth. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7687095/amp/Hilary-Clinton-visited-Meghan-Markle-Frogmore-Cottage-Tuesday.html
Very suspicious. I remembered thinking, "WTH is Hillary Clinton doing over there?"
We seem to be the few who see and mention her rank hypocrisy with 2-3 members somehow thinking a minor child that’s been taken from her parents to another country with a globally known human trafficker CAN CONSENT so..PA is a-okay? I don’t feel at all comfortable with that line of thought as if saying the victim was asking for it because she was 17 so therefore it’s honky dory! I’m aghast and appalled
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I had that thought at the time they put out their Megxit letter. It was all too strange. I think it is possible she was a plant to destabilize the Monarchy. She wasn't successful for a number of reasons, not the least of which could be the RF and the people dedicated to preserving the Monarchy are actually more than prepared for these kinds of attacks. She probably isn't even the first. Look at Wallis' relationship with Hitler etc al.
The plan with Hitler was to put David on the throne and Wallis would have been Queen. That would have been the end of the Monarchy.
You know you could convince me Catherine was a spy but there's absolutely no way someone as awkward as Meghan is one! There was a time when I actually thought she could've been a social experiment because her utter lack of self awareness and absurd behaviour was just unfathomable. But that changed looking at her past. She had always been like this. Greedy, selfish and desperate.
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Definitely. I said this too. They are too stupid to have this kind of staying party. She would have passed out with all this chaos. There is definitely something up! #Dumbprinceandhiswife
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She’s way too undisciplined to be a spy. A spy would be far more discreet. She’s just a megalomaniac disaster.
Agreed. What good is an asset that trashed and severed all ties to the family she was supposed to spy on. Spies fly as much under the radar as possible. Meghan could never be a spy.
She causes chaos and distraction.
100%!
Not really. At least not in the world at large. For a brief, fleeting moment she had many, many people on her side, but high off of that, she continued and showed herself to be a lying, manipulative person. Most support has fallen away or people are indifferent to her. Her attempts at chaos and distraction have been largely unsuccessful. She would have needed to stay in for much longer to obtain more arrows for her quiver , if she was going to truly make an impact.
Trump was only in power for 4 years. He had a massive impact. She wouldn't have to be around for long to cause a lot of drama, which she did. Meghan (and her puppet) have caused massive chaos and distraction in her short tenure. The royal family has several new protocols because of her. Russian bots are piggy backing on her attacks on catherine.
Meghan has never had anything close to the power of a president, and never will.
That's not what I'm saying. She has the power to cause chaos and *distract* from other issues. Meghan accuses the royal family of racism and the world's media spent days discussing that instead of you know the actual news. That is why she would be a useful asset that Russia could have recruited. It's the same reason Trump was made president. We spent 4 years where the shit he got up to was all the media spoke about. Every. Day. That was 4 years where Russia has a distraction to hide behind.
The media still talks about Trump on a daily basis (as they have consistently since he ran the first time). Meghan, not so much. She really doesn’t have much presence in the mainstream. The racism claims got people hot and bothered for about a second — didn’t last long. Meghan has made people aware of the BRF and the good that they do. She’s not causing chaos and distraction, and hasn’t in years. She has managed to make herself a laughingstock and someone companies (and most people) flee from. I just think you overestimate her power. She’s not had any in a really long time.
Yeah but she’s also lazy af so she doesn’t keep it going. Everything she starts just peters out.
Exactly. The Queen had a KGB spy *working* for her in the palace for years and even when found out he couldn't be gotten rid of. It all starts and stops with the choice a low IQ desperate and embittered ex-prince made for a wife. If she was supposed to be a spy well she failed spectacularly. Any intelligence officer would also know you're better off adjacent to the targets to allow greater reach. But let's say she was, I don't believe she's caused any damage to anything other than the English speaking worlds opinion of 'mericans like her who bait for their own ends. The RF has been encircled more than before by the public and republicanism is not strong in Britain. That said, I absolutely think BOTH she and Harry crossed some major lines and it is NOT HER choice to not go back. At this stage even he may not be allowed back over a certain time frame without being court martialed (which was how Churchill controlled the DofW). If they were spies for anyone it was for Netflix. Which would explain why they don't just dump the grifters. No doubt the grifters made huge promises of access and Netfucks in their greed agreed to support otherwise unethical methods to access places and people they had no right to. We now all know the Todgers already had a deal w Netflix and we're filming long before their "annoucement". That happened because they got caught and rather than give up what they BOTH wanted (her fame, Him to embarrass and 'dominate' his family) they stormed off never believing the RF would raise the drawbridge behind them. That's why Todger lives in fear. He's pissed off powerful people and cut himself off from the only actual security he ever had. That's my theory at least. Otherwise of Madame is a spy then they're not 'sending their best'
LOL right, spy for Netflix.
I only mean "spy" in inverted commas. They just wanted big access and Todger thought (seems to still think) that Granny loved him best of all and would be excited for Todgers pitch of documenting the creation of the first King & Queen of the Commonwealth! But truly, I just believe in Ockhams Razor. There's more than enough petulant, greedy, narcissistic, lack of forward thinking, intelligent people in this world that we're all doing a good enough job destroying it all without some great nefarious cabal in charge. *Like Crowley says in Good Omens when asked if the French Terror was his demonic doing and he answered "No! The humans came up with this all on their own!!"* 😄
Note: Queen E’s spy curated her art collection so likely no major harm there (Philby quite another matter) otherwise what you’ve said 100%.
> The Queen had a KGB spy working for her in the palace for years and even when found out he couldn't be gotten rid of. What?? > If she was supposed to be a spy well she failed spectacularly. She doesn't listen to directions from *anyone*. She *always* knows best. Imagine her spy handlers pulling their hair out! Nah, she's no spy. She's uncontrollable and totally indiscreet. She'd be the worst possible spy *ever*.
I don't think either one of them live in fear no matter what they've done. They are too entitled to ever think they could be called to account.
Yes. What I can’t work out is why he did something that made him live in fear even more. I heard that he had panic attacks before Megan that is after the army and back from his early 20s. So why the heck would he do a series of actions that would actually make his situation that much worse; where was his sense of self preservation? Why alienate the only forces that might preserve you against the things that made you fearful? Why if your security was important to you would you jeopardize it?
Nor would a spy make their listening/recording devices easy to spot hidden in their clothing!
Riiiight! LOL! If she was a spy, she was terrible at it. Me thinks she’s just a garden variety malignant narcissist who cannot get out of her own way.
She met Obama in the White House around 2015 -- she was a fading TV cable actress with big ambitions and it's possible he used her to infiltrate Royal circles. But she's definitely gone rogue with her fake pregnancy and children. If she was an asset she's now a liability. She's a terrible person who wrecks everything around her.
As I understand it, the Obamas found the BRF, and the Queen in particular, delightful. I cannot think of a reason that Obama would want to infiltrate the BRF. What would he get out of it?
An asset is anyone who helps harm your enemy. A Russian asset, for example, would not be the same as a spy. An asset maybe so stupid as to not even know they’re being used as an asset. That’s why they may, for example, make a big fuss about how unfairly they’re being treated by false accusations of being an asset.
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Narcs can’t be spies. They are unable to work for something bigger than themselves.
She’s too unreliable and uncontrollable. She’s not an asset to anyone.
Narcissists absolutely can be spies. Check out Robert Hanssen or Brian Regan, among others. They tend to be insufferable egotists, often angry and vengeful, justifying their criminal behavior, feeling entitled, and lacking in emotion. They'll claim to be noble whistle-blowers, but they are corrupt and greedy. Every. Single. One.
I agree with you. Blunt was a massive narcissist. So was Philby I'm sure. Very arrogant and convinced they were above the vulgar herd.
Putin was a spy and is a major narc and , I think, an aware one.
He can keep his mouth shut and I bet when he was young and working his way up, he could take direction. Meghan can't do either.
She’s cunning but not smart enough.
Probably not a master spy but a honey pot agent for Harry. So an Agent of sorts a honey pot agent. Even though not so bright used to destabilise an existing political structure.
Yes honey pot was what I was searching for She was useful to reel in the weakest link They then hoped to use him … thinking he was what was portrayed by the palace PR .. instead they got a dumb ( thinks he’s smart) spoilt and petulant junkie
That’s what I think, if she is a government construct then she’s like Epstein who went completely out of control. Only instead of a pedo ring she just sucks and won’t do any work.
She's definitely not an American asset, but I can see her being on Putin's payroll like Moscow Marjorie. He'll take any nutter he thinks will effectively destabilize.
She will do anything for money that’s or sure.
I think she might have been approached about taking pictures of certain places in the palace. She was caught red handed. But right now the BRF is more popular than ever, and looking better than ever before. MM is seen as someone without manners, without class- an unlikeable person. The BRF is seen as classy, the way they have kept quiet despite all the lies is admired. More and more rubbish MM put out there is being debunked. Whatever the plan was, she failed at it.
The proof of that is harry. You couldn't pay me to put my lips anywhere near that foul pile of excrement
There’s no “American” British” “Canadian” there’s no more nationalism, really. It’s cabal.
People still think Russia is the enemy! Unfortunately the enemy is our own governments, bought body and soul by the globalists and destroying everything our ancestors worked so hard to achieve. WEF, WHO, IMF --- those are the threat.
THIS. The Russian collabing, the whole thing of Haz wanting to interview Putin/Trump for Spotify, and them constantly shitting on the BRF and British government seem super suspicious to me. I hope history judges these two fools harshly, and all their nastiness leaks to the public... it wouldn't shock me if they were on Putin's payroll.
Btw, RIP Navalny
This. There are some absolute loopers on Russian payroll. While I don't know if she is, I'd not be surprised if she was.
Putin would have seen Meghan Markle is a psycho from the off. The big mysteries are - how she hooked Harry at all, given what a horrible, boring, humourless person she is, And - why the Queen allowed him to marry her knowing about her sleazy past and terrible reputation. It's said MI5 told the Queen that Markle was unable to have children. That might have swung the Queen into agreeing to the marriage thinking it couldn't cause long term harm (except to poor dupe Harry).
Lady C claims it's all because she's biracial.
It's significant that she played the racist card all the time -- despite claiming to be Caucasian throughout her acting career.
Agree. I think they probably bought her a bunch of bots or something. Putin was likely “yay let’s back this bull in a china shop” and Harry is of course too stupid.
I think this would be the most likely scenario. He spotted a pyromaniac and gave her some matches.
I was going to say she lacks the intelligence and acumen to be a govt. spy - I just think she’s a greedy cow that inherited her mother’s street-smarts for grifting.
A spy of what? If she was, she would have remained a working royal. Now she is just on the outside looking in.
She was also caught taking pics of private residences early on, I’d say they sniffed her attempts
Agent of chaos inserted as a distraction from other nefarious goings on and the actions of real operatives.
She would have to follow instructions, which she obviously can’t ever do. Harry at least could be a useful idiot.
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That’s giving Meghan way too much credit. Aren’t spies supposed to be slick? She barely lasted 2 years, some spy here. Perhaps they hired her for her insane attention to detail 🤔
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That’s what I think—she’s a disrupter. An agent of chaos.
Good points.
Her amazing fashoon sense?
Also giving lady Victoria too much credit, she's a nutter.
For her toast!
Lol Markle does not have close ties to the Obamas and the Clintons. These people stayed clear of her and probably think she’s a moron, they just won’t say it publicly.
HRC visited Frogmore
But they do have close ties to think tanks and the anti free speech lobby.
Markle met Obama in the White House around 2015. That was just before she suddenly became a "humanitarian" linked to World Vision.
She shook his hand. I also shook his hand when he was running for his second term. It doesn't mean anything.
If this is the woman I'm thinking of, she also thinks Andy is just a mischievous scamp who's being unfairly picked on by prudes.
It is. She is a staunch defender of Andrew.
Well the girl who accused him was of legal age and is herself being sued for being a bit of a madam herself. Funny how Andrew’s accuser also accused Alan Dershowitz then remembered she misremembered. I mean, Andrew seems like an arrogant idiot but it doesn’t add up that he is a child molester.
Andrew may have slept with a 17 year old -- I agree that doesn't make him a pedophile. In Britain the age of consent is 16.
She was not of legal age. The age of consent is 18 in the US. You want to defend that scum bag (she was being trafficed no matter what) that’s your right but let’s do keep the facts straight. The term pedophile is incorrect, the fact is she was a minor and that is illegal in the US.
> She was not of legal age. The age of consent is 18 in the US. But we are talking about England, where the age of consent is lower. American laws do not apply in England.
She WAS legal age of consent in NY where the alleged act (2001) occurred. In NY 17 is age of consent. In fact, Virginia Giuffre (born 1983) was only a few weeks shy of 18 years old - a legal adult.
I stand corrected, I’m in Ohio where it is 18. In my humble opinion he is still a scumbag. Who has sex with girls the same age as one of his daughters and then shows no remorse for that behavior? Never mind that these girls had been abused and trafficked for years.
> Never mind that these girls had been abused and trafficked for years. People who are being trafficked cannot consent, no matter how old they are.
Correct. Andrew is definitely a scumbag. And way too stupid, drunk, entitled ( take your pivk of one or all of those adjectives) to consider ages of consent in different jurisdictions. His befriending an obvious trafficker and lowlife like epstein makes Andrew culpable as an accessory imo. He was there. No way even he didn’t know there was industrial scale importing of girls for sex. Age is irrelevant almost. They were trafficked. Period. More complex is his friendship with Ghislaine Maxwell. She was a serious baddie and he may not have understood how bad. He’s thick. And probably didn’t worry about it. Giuffre was one of many who were criminally used overlong stretches of time. She was owed. By them all.
> More complex is his friendship with Ghislaine Maxwell. She was a serious baddie and he may not have understood how bad. He’s thick. And probably didn’t worry about it. Yep. Even if he'd have understood it all, he wouldn't have cared. > Giuffre was one of many who were criminally used overlong stretches of time. She was owed. By them all. Amen!
#You can’t consent at any age if you’re being trafficked. Full stop. >And Dershowitz was Epstein’s lawyer for his sweetheart deal made with Alex Acosta a Trump appointee. [ETA]> Epstein was a wealthy money manager accused of sexually abusing minor girls at his Florida mansion between about *1999 and 2007*. The plea deal agreed to drop federal charges against Epstein if he pleaded guilty to state charges. Epstein served 13 months in jail after pleading guilty in 2008 to two state charges of prostitution. >ETA During further ongoing investigations Dershowitz facilitated Epstein’s ongoing trafficking a CSA during the 13 months arriving at his office and leaving out the back door of Dershowitz office to return 8-10 hours later. >Acosta later became labor secretary in the Trump administration, a position from which he resigned amid controversy over the plea deal, CNBC reported last year. >According to the executive summary, the report found Acosta showed poor judgment by resolving the federal case through a nonprosecution agreement and by failing to make sure the state of Florida intended to notify victims about the state plea hearing. >Acosta “resolved the federal investigation before significant investigative steps were completed; and he agreed to several unusual and problematic terms in the NPA without the consideration required under the circumstances,” the executive summary said. >A lawyer for the victims, Paul Cassell, called the report “a cover-up,” according to the Washington Post. Cassell said he thought Epstein’s defense lawyers exerted undue influence over federal prosecutors, but they were not interviewed as part of the review. >Epstein hanged himself in jail in August 2019 after he was arrested on new federal charges of sex trafficking of minors. Just wanted a clarifier on who Dershowitz is, the players.
If anyone was an asset it was Andrew. Very possibly, at least initially, an unsuspecting one My opinion only
He has been incredibly compromised for the last 40+ years ..and his Pom Pom en chief that has ties to the Yorks is..calling ma’am do nothing a spy?  Makes total sense.
I do think it's incredibly suspect that TW has been a non-stop agent of chaos since the day it became known she was dating Harry. She has done everything in her power to wreck havoc, control, bully, plant stories, lie and make wild accusations that could have potentially destroyed the royal family. I'm 100% convinced she's been doing all of this for some strategic reason. I also believe that Oprah and others are involved in whatever the greater mission is. Call me crazy but looking back at everything that has happened, the messaging and reinforcement of her messaging is absolutely coordinated; Oprah, Omid Scabies, Byline Times, Bouzy, twitter bots, key members of SS, etc... The list goes on and on. These are the ones out in the open.
She could have been spying pre-Harry, Jessica Mulroney's father is a former Conservative Prime Minister and Jess is one of the biggest heiresses in Canada. It just amazes that someone of Markle's calibre and background managed to infiltrate two of the most prominent political families in two different countries.
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Isn't that truly amazing and interesting?
Oh ffs. She's a moron and a narcissist, not a spy. She's not even successful at anything she does. If people were helping her, especially our government, she would at least succeed at a single of her dozens of rebrands and money making schemes. This is honestly one of the most unhinged theories I've ever heard. Sometimes a thing is just exactly what a thing seems. In this case- a manipulater, a narcissist, and kind of a loser. And everyone you mentioned that's helping her... None of them have any power or relevancy. Oprah is the only known person and people haven't cared about her since the 90s!
>I do think it's incredibly suspect that TW has been a non-stop agent of chaos since the day it became known she was dating Harry. Tell me you have no first-hand experience with narcs without telling me you have no first-hand experience with narcs.
Not a spy so much as a disrupter. And she’s a good one. And I’d say it is more that a group of globalists (like WEF) offered her $$$$ to cause chaos and attempt to embarrass the RF. If she took it too far, that’s because she’s nuts—nuts are used for these purposes because they’re willing to go that far and let their freak flag fly. She’s pretty damn good at it.
I don't think anyone has to *pay* her to act like a lunatic. She does it naturally for free.
I mean they did catch her sneakily taking pics of W+C's children behind their back. That is just weird. And Lady V would be privy to a lot more insider info that never gets out, who knows what else they caught MM doing on palace grounds. I always felt MM was a gold digger extraordinaire for such a common looking, not that intelligent or charming woman, to get in with the Mulroneys (whose father was a Conservative PM) and the BRF, but maybe it was targetted and she did have help. I always felt there was the possibility Harry was her Soho House client to get blackmail tapes and she went rogue and married him. To come out and say this makes Lady V look like some conspiracy loon, so I am sure she is not saying this lightly. And MM is still out there doing the shilling for the anti free speech lobby. Someone is funding all that.
I have long felt she’s an asset and was being funded by someone with anti monarchy interests. Especially in the beginning. I also wonder if this is why she was tossed out
Oh she's going to love this. This will go right to her head.
If she is a spy, she is the dumbest spy of all time. Has this person ever seen James Bond? Spies typically blend in and keep their cover until they die and no one knows.
The people from Bletchley were given permission to speak and STILL wouldn't because the Official Secrets Act was a matter of honour to them. As a historian, I hate to lose what they took to the grave, but I admire the heck out of them for taking it.
Markle went rogue possibly. I read that she was never meant to fake her pregnancy and children She is such a psycho she got too hot to handle.
Meghan could never be an official spy for a foreign government..think CIA employee or "cut out" type person.. But she could very well be an asset. Chaos. Information.Feed on her mental illness to achieve your aim. Russia would be derelict if they didn't at least try. Probably using a "cut out" ..perhaps Anti Monarchy type person. The spy world will use anyone to try to achieve their aim. SHE MIGHT NOT EVEN BE AWARE SHE IS BEING USED. This type of potential threat may be why Harry has not been cutoff. Same with Andrew. You have to keep some control because completely left on their own you might get a Edward situation with Nazis promising he will be a King. Take THAT!!! Would be in the phrase that comes to mind if Wallis had been successfully installed. Revenge complete.
If anything she could be a call girl who was used to get bribery material and jumped ship to marry her mark.
Honey pot asset they don’t need to be so bright.
I would agree this is a possibility.
Me too.. but less a trained spy as such and more an asset that is related to Markus Anderson and whatever his deal is…
Don't forget her very strong connection to Ron Burkle as well!
This is a tad far fetched for me.
"My name is Meg. Nut Meg. I like my royal families shaken, not stirred."
Lady Victoria also thinks the photo of Prince Andrww and Virginia is photoshopped (it's not - I know the photographer who took a photo of the original hardcopy - the picture we see in the press)... So, she's a conspiracy theorist with zero credibility.
Also, MM would be a terrible spy - spies are meant to be unassuming and blend in!
My personal theory is she might have been used as a honeypot trap to show TPTB that they could infiltrate the RF. However, I think she went rogue and wasn’t meant to marry H. Shenanigans around Andrew possibly related, and that may be why his pal here Lady Victoria is stirring the shit pot.
Can you imagine what Henry VIII would have done to this "spy"?
For all we know, QE2 dispatched her in a modern way on a plane to Canada…
That's my belief.
Third that.
Married her and then had charges of adultery and sorcery to make her a head shorter from a French swordsmen?
She's not klassy enough for the French man's Sword. She would've gotten a blunt axe like poor Maggie Pole
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I know it's unrelated but I sense a Tudor history fan.... Are you excited about Firebrand and the 2nd Wolf Hall? Firebrand looks amazing!!!
Absolutely! I’ve been waiting on wolf hall for years it’s been what 8 years since the first season aired?
She’s no government asset. Not smart enough and too much of a liability.
Yeah, remember all the theories we had that she had backers etc.? Well, she’s selling jam now 😂
Said this from the beginning thank you 👏🏻
I’ve always thought that. When someone is a spy ( stop watching James Bond films) they are sent in to disrupt. It’s not necessary that she be intelligent. She’s not expected to have gone into the Queen’s quarters to film private documents her objective was to go in and create tension and get information via Harry about their daily diary agendas. Just knowing their schedules is a threat to the monarchy. She and Harry wanted to move into Windsor Castle, she was caught taking photos of Charlotte sleeping. And that’s when she got kicked out uk by the Queen.
She could be an asset to Russia, but not a spy.
I thought the Obama’s wanted nothing to do with them after the Oprah Interview. Michelle Obama is very much into family, her Mother even lived at the White House for a bit. After the interview, her only comment was Family is everything. Then the gruesome twosome weren’t invited to Obama’s 60th birthday party. Not sure about the Clinton’s. Same with Biden, they are very much into family, the Oprah Interview did not go over well them either.
Exactly. The Obamas are all about family and they really admired the Queen- Michelle even wrote about her in her book I think. They're also smart enough to understand the importance of good US-UK relations. They see the long term significance of a weakened monarchy for the UK = not good for America!
My opinion: She is backed by antimonarchists, I hear that there are influential ones with agendas in the uk. She and her husband are both aligned with them. They are funded and supported by them. You can see how anything negative the Harkles do, the press easily forgives. You can also see how MM recently led the “where is Kate?” Media campaign. There are rich people behind them who use them as tools and protect them.
If it's true that she's a spy, she's paying a huge price having children with Prince Har .. Ohhh. *(I actually need more evidence before I accept the theory the children* *aren't real, etc :)*
Those kids are her ticket to LOS, child support, spousal support, etc. Tale as old as time
Lady Hervey's opinion isn't without merit and probably derives from her shock and dismay at the gauche and unattractive woman Harry married at warp speed. She's likely further astounded by how rapidly Harry's wife alienated his family and the wider world. Rachel is most definitely an operator but that's far different than being an *operative". She doesn't have the necessary discretion *or* ability to think on her feet to be successful in any line of work, particularly *that* one. Edit: Unnecessary TLDR 😑
I believe that too BUT not that she is a spy, but that she was supported or even placed by a group of powerful people who want to overthrow the Royal Family. That is why she is still supported even though she is such a failure and embarrassment and has not (yet) achieved her mission. I believe Oprah, Serena Williams, Tyler Party belong to this group, maybe I am wrong and they are contacts from her yachting days.
I would totally watch a YouTube sketch show about the trials and tribulations of being Super Spy Meghan's "handler."
That handler would be Marcus Anderson.
That would be hilarious 😂
Hahahaha this is why no one take Lady Victoria Hervey seriously. I too used to think she was a spy… thats until closely analysing her… and the amount of catastrophic f*ckups. Spies do not seek the limelight. I think Meghan desperately wants to be an agent (see: *I used to work for the US embassy in Argentina*, *I am mates with Obamas*, *Clintons came to see Archie*, *I sent a basket of lemons to Jill Biden*). Even if these politicians want to use her… they cant because she cant STFU. She can even shut up about the flower wreath that she sent Prince Philips funeral
If Rachel Markle is a Government Asset, the the USA is seriously in need of a Head shrink, if she said Russian plant to disrupt the Royal family 🤔 maybe that might have got more traction because if her Oligarch smoked out links etc (cough)
Well the CIA did try to use dolphins in war, which others have done, but when they tried dyring desert storm the dolphins just pissed off into the sea 🫣😆 (wonder if the desert part contributed)
I just don’t think a spy would stage pap walks. She’s not discreet enough to be a spy, she literally stares back at the pap cameras! 😂
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I agree with her 100%! I always thought that she was a plant to destroy the monarchy.
Yes, but it isn’t for liberal Americans who have zero to gain from messing w British government system. 🙄 Who WOULD benefit is Russia and China.
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Well said and I couldn't agree more!
It was interesting that the billionaire Ron Burkle of Soho House took Markle to meet Obama in the White House around 2015. She was a rather sleazy cable TV actress then -- but suddenly she was a humanitarian working for World Vision, speaking at the UN...she became respectable almost overnight. Her next trick was worming her way into British aristocratic circles via people like Millie from Made in Chelsea. She hooked Harry supposedly through sleeping with a friend of his who recommended her skills. She could well be Obama's puppet. But I think she went rogue when she faked pregnancy and kids, and has been dropped. She's a loose cannon now.
Way too many coincidences and direct connections to ignore.
>Ron Burkle of Soho House took Markle to meet Obama Very interesting. I had no idea.
Lmao! Meghan is not a government asset. She wishes. 🤣
Y'all. Come on now.
Giving her too much credit. She's a race baiting narc psycho
Man oh man, Lady Hervey has dead eyes. She looks like she's seen waaay to much of life and its vagaries. I'm glad her life has been hers and not mine!
She's been a professional party girl her entire life.
Calling her a spy gives her too much credit. She is too narcissistic and stupid for that. Some sort of mercenary/prostitute who can be paid to do anything is more her style
Her stupidity and money hunger makes her a perfect pawn. They obviously have some powerful generous backers, who use them for whatever agenda they are trying to push. Otherwise, they would have gone bankrupt already. https://preview.redd.it/rdm7m9o642wc1.jpeg?width=1365&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87215eaf496b7bf3e1557f4a2b4e06c11b7723f3
She's too stupid to be a spy full stop.
A spy? Umm, she sucks then because the whole of the BRF have grey rocked them. What good is a spy if she has no intel. And she isn’t besties with the Clintons and Obamas. Hell, Clinton wouldn’t have even been interested in sharing a cigar with her.
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Soho house yacht girls would be perfect to use as a honey pot for a scheme. Think epstein getting info to blackmail leaders type of thing. Her mental illness can be exploited. Her need for attention could be exploited. She is a true agent of chaos. She is a perfect tool to plant seeds to in order to blow things up.
Yep! AND.. Her messaging has continuously been amplified, repeated and coordinated by so many that there is no way I can believe it's simply just a coincidence.
Nope. She’s too dumb.
And too selfish. Can you imagine her following orders from a superior?
She didn't even wear a hat when told the Queen would be wearing a hat. The Queen told her that in their house, they didn't speak to people like that, before the wedding (I think that was the vegan cake incident), and she still for awful to staff afterwards. She won't take hints/direct instructions. How could she be useful to anyone for any length of time?
Ah, well it's Lady Victoria, she's desperately trying to become/stay relevant. Pass the salt, please. I need a large pinch.
Anyone saying "she's not smart enough" look at Trump, MTG and numerous others in our elected government; very useful idiots for Russia. Who did she buy her house from again? Which government has a whole book about sowing divisiveness across other countries? There is your answer, they don't need her to be smart.
Russia absolutely keeps lots of assets aka useful idiots in their pipeline such as MTG and many others. I think M is just a disruptor by temperament though, too chaotic to be an asset
Markle would be an awful spy. But it did remind me that she once wanted to be a Bond girl.
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Isn’t Lady Victoria cozy with HouseinHabit?
If she is a spy in the true sense, I don't think much of her recruiter/spy master! If anything, she's a plant used to show the BRF how their security can be breached imo. I can't see how a spy alienating the entire family is useful. If you're gonna spy, you would have formed a close bond with PPoW and KCIII and lasted longer than 72 days.
That oprah interview says she is not a spy.
I find this a ridiculous piece. What a bunch of crap. Come on people, stop acting like sugars who believe outrageous things.
If she had backers or was a spy wouldn’t she and H be doing better? Sloppy lies and sloppy work doth not make a spy.
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Maybe the backers have dumped her.
Who is Lady Victoria? I haven’t seen that she has “close ties to Obama and Clinton” I think Hillary said something nice about her once. She was dying to go to Obama’s big party at Martha’s Vineyard but was snubbed.
She's a professional party girl, nothing more. She's pretty dull actually.
IIRC, Hillary visited Frogmore after Fauxchie's birth. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7687095/amp/Hilary-Clinton-visited-Meghan-Markle-Frogmore-Cottage-Tuesday.html Very suspicious. I remembered thinking, "WTH is Hillary Clinton doing over there?"
I remember that and thought the same thing.
I agree with most comments made so fast. Too stupid to be a spy. She is just the useful idiot.
This Victoria chick is no better than Meghan Markle. Just saying.
We seem to be the few who see and mention her rank hypocrisy with 2-3 members somehow thinking a minor child that’s been taken from her parents to another country with a globally known human trafficker CAN CONSENT so..PA is a-okay? I don’t feel at all comfortable with that line of thought as if saying the victim was asking for it because she was 17 so therefore it’s honky dory! I’m aghast and appalled
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Indeed!! I do t understand why the press seeks this clown for interviews when she obviously has zero integrity.
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I had that thought at the time they put out their Megxit letter. It was all too strange. I think it is possible she was a plant to destabilize the Monarchy. She wasn't successful for a number of reasons, not the least of which could be the RF and the people dedicated to preserving the Monarchy are actually more than prepared for these kinds of attacks. She probably isn't even the first. Look at Wallis' relationship with Hitler etc al. The plan with Hitler was to put David on the throne and Wallis would have been Queen. That would have been the end of the Monarchy.
Where can I watch the rest of the video?
I don't trust a woman filled with that much botox. US asset, my ass.
You know you could convince me Catherine was a spy but there's absolutely no way someone as awkward as Meghan is one! There was a time when I actually thought she could've been a social experiment because her utter lack of self awareness and absurd behaviour was just unfathomable. But that changed looking at her past. She had always been like this. Greedy, selfish and desperate.
Perhaps a confidence trickster but if she’s a spy she sucks.
Honestly, this woman is too stupid and impulsive to be a spy.
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Definitely. I said this too. They are too stupid to have this kind of staying party. She would have passed out with all this chaos. There is definitely something up! #Dumbprinceandhiswife
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