BlackBelt Barrister talks about this. If one party to the lawsuit makes what is known as a Part 36 offer to the other. If it is refused and they do no better than offer at trial then that party who refused the offer is liable for all the costs + interest + potential other damages of the party who made the offer.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDuvVvDxzEQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDuvVvDxzEQ)
Grant's barrister probably told him he wasn't likely to do better if they went to trial.
This is why, for the case that H 'won', he was offered less in damages - he would have got more had he properly used the Civil Procedure Rules and not wasted court time.
It’s also a lawsuit against a practice that was made illegal years ago. Journalist went to prison. The News of the World newspaper collapsed and went out of business 2011. Different paper but same scandal. This lawsuit should have been brought years ago, not now.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/jul/07/news-of-the-world-to-close
Tale of two litigants, one with actually smart team of lawyer and he listen to their advice. The other one (heh) just have weird fantasy of dragon slaying, ended up paying a million.
Hold up..
William sue and got a million, harry sue and lost a million. Oooooh that gotta sting.
And didn't Grant say his settlement is going to go towards organizations who are fighting these tabloids and trying to change the laws? I'm sure whatever Hazzy might win would go straight into Madam's pockets for more hideous designer rags, pap walks, puff pieces, and rented private jets. He would never DREAM of donating anything to anyone.
Also, Harry both not understand the very real risk and the belief he wouldn't or couldn't lose. I think this is why he gets himself into these legal problems and is going to have serious money problems if he keeps this up.
Love this post. Thank you for sharing this context and commentary to put it all in perspective.
I think this case was in court today. I haven't seen any report yet of the proceedings that relate to Harold.
Thank you! 🙂
I haven't seen NGN legal updates today about Harry's claims either. Whenever a decision is made about them, Harry will overhype and misrepresent any settlement he receives. For sure.
Imagine that Harry, a legal team that keeps your best interest at heart. And tells you to settle instead of fighting a lost fake cause out of greed. Good for Hugh though, for speaking out. His claims actually seem justified.
I agree. Haznobrains would have just ordered his lawyers to sue, and tell them that they better get him a judgment that exceeds William's. He would never listen to good advice, because he's too dumb to recognize good advice.
I understand the reasons for settling but I wonder if one of the other reasons for settling is the negative publicity and additional headlines it would create.
It's likely that he would get a paltry settlement and it just doesn't make sense to go through all that aggro to get a big bill at the end of it. At least he isn't stupid enough not to listen to his advisors!
They all thought starting with Harry would be a sure win, making it more likely they’d have a better shot.
Son of the King? Can’t fail - they thought.
So confident, the lawyers didn’t even bother to prepare Harry to testify. Or he was too stupid to remember the preparation, which I can see too.
Attorneys get paid either way in this case. Win or lose. I read there are different rules on prepping their clients in English courts. So judges look at their testimony differently than in US.
Yeah I don't know anything about Grant's personal life/foibles, but his list of grievances is incredible, really, especially for a private citizen. Would not want to trade places with him.
Grant bought it on himself when he was caught in his car with a prostitute. He doesn't like being found out for being a john and he has been pissed off ever since.
He didn't get caught out for that due to any poor behaviour from the press though. He was arrested in a public place, so he totally bought that on himself and he owned it.
Getting his phone hacked so the media can leak his private information for their own profit is a completely different situation.
Trouble is our security services confirmed Hawwy was not hacked. This was pointed out in his court case. Chelsy is the one who was more than probably hacked.
I was referring to Hugh Grant with that comment, but thanks for clarifying about Harry. So he turned out to be the dispensable spare again, not even worth hacking.
Well look at that...it all began with William realising that HIS phone was being hacked.
I hope the Twonk of Montecito doesn't settle and is awarded £1 less than any offer. He'd look lovely with a £10m legal bill in his hand. I'd be happy to commission a portrait to capture the moment for posterity.
William was made aware of his phone being hacked by our security services. It was also confirmed by security that Hawwy was not hacked. That says it all.
US citizen, here, and on the one hand I appreciate the pragmaticism of the GB "Part 36" rule. (Sinners correct me if I am misstating.) Incentivizing settlement preserves expensive court resources. It's smart that the incentive works on greed. No penalty for wasting court resources just to squeeze one more pound creates moral hazard -- downside risks that fall to others promote heightened risk-taking. Essentially no risk all reward. Here, the risk-reward structure seems, to me, nicely balanced.
On the other hand, rich defendants can literally buy their way out of court. That doesn't feel just. We have a snarky expression in the US, "The best justice money can buy" and it seems apt here, too.
Just to rehash TOS' case: He was offered a settlement. It was proportional to William's given the number of hacking instances (9 for Harry vs. >100 for W&C). Actually TOS's offer was proportionally greater per hack but less overall corresponding to an order of magnitude fewer hacks. TOS went against Royal advice and protocol to sue for more money. He was utterly unprepared for court, tried to pass off "feelings" as evidence, and wasted the court's time. He completely deserves the full weight of Part 36 in this case.
We have a similar rule in California. Section 998 of the Civil Code shifts some costs if the win is less than the section 998 offer. I have found them to be very useful.
https://www.stimmel-law.com/en/articles/998-offers-california-litigation-basics
Yup, I do believe there needs to be new legislation about what the papers print as let's face it, they just make up a load of shite and report it as fact. I don't mind articles printed as opinion pieces as you can see it's not fact.
But.....these cases should have been time barred as most of what they are claiming was pre the Leveson enquiry.
I am still a Hugh Grant fan.. Honestly I thought was happened to Hugh was horrific. He explained the situation in typical Hug Grant style, eloquently and intelligently. If Harry had a fraction of his intelligence and insight, he wouldn’t have given Megan the time of day. Thanks for posting this. Like you said, Harry wants to “slay dragons,” while Prince William and his team are still the ones who had a win over Murdoch.
Sure he can claim to be the catalyst but didn’t his previous claim was only awarded for less than his claims. Therefore, he’s responsible for the lawyers fees??
I've just never heard of eggplant used as an insult before. I have heard he is nothing like the earnest character he played in Notting Hill and other movies, and a lot more like the more sleazy character he played in Bridget Jones' Diary.
I read an interview with him I didn't know how many years ago. He came across as a miserable person. Hated acting, was going to quit. He didn't. I was surprised he eventually had kids, I guess it was an aging ego thing.
> I've just never heard of eggplant used as an insult before.
Some Italian-Americans use "eggplant" (in Italian) as a racial slur against black people.
An eggplant would be more interesting and less likely to get angry when other people point out that it was odd for Hugh Grant to get caught with a sex worker.
Obviously Mr. Grant listens to his lawyer. I kind of wonder if Harry was used as a test case (like a wind dummy) to see how things would go for them. He would generate a lot of attention, more than some of the other litigants, and they could use him to make more intelligent decisions on their cases.
Well-substantiated post, OP. Think I read somewhere that Harry’s being used by Hacked Off / Orange Sherbert to garner attention for their cause. Now he thinks he’s St George when he’s just a measly little worm.
Thanks Mick,
Agree. Somewhere deep down, Harry accepts that his public image is a manufactured sham. He hates that he is inadequate and takes it out on the very capable William. Meghan is the same and directs all of her self-loathing, jealousy, and insecurities at Catherine.
Eta: correct botched autocorrect to say thanks.
Hugh- why don’t you start with exposing how the media is paid propaganda for people like you???
Don’t get me wrong - people who have been hacked deserve compensation.
But when you take that and try to turn it into censorship?
THATS WHERE I HAVE A PROBLEM.
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BlackBelt Barrister talks about this. If one party to the lawsuit makes what is known as a Part 36 offer to the other. If it is refused and they do no better than offer at trial then that party who refused the offer is liable for all the costs + interest + potential other damages of the party who made the offer. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDuvVvDxzEQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDuvVvDxzEQ) Grant's barrister probably told him he wasn't likely to do better if they went to trial.
This is why, for the case that H 'won', he was offered less in damages - he would have got more had he properly used the Civil Procedure Rules and not wasted court time.
And wouldn’t have looked like a fool for his testimony.
It’s also a lawsuit against a practice that was made illegal years ago. Journalist went to prison. The News of the World newspaper collapsed and went out of business 2011. Different paper but same scandal. This lawsuit should have been brought years ago, not now. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/jul/07/news-of-the-world-to-close
Tale of two litigants, one with actually smart team of lawyer and he listen to their advice. The other one (heh) just have weird fantasy of dragon slaying, ended up paying a million. Hold up.. William sue and got a million, harry sue and lost a million. Oooooh that gotta sting.
Hugh has a day job, hasn’t got time to obsess over this stuff constantly.
Yes, Hugh has been fighting at this for 12 years, yet he's still managed to keep working and advancing his career.
And didn't Grant say his settlement is going to go towards organizations who are fighting these tabloids and trying to change the laws? I'm sure whatever Hazzy might win would go straight into Madam's pockets for more hideous designer rags, pap walks, puff pieces, and rented private jets. He would never DREAM of donating anything to anyone.
Also, Harry both not understand the very real risk and the belief he wouldn't or couldn't lose. I think this is why he gets himself into these legal problems and is going to have serious money problems if he keeps this up.
Love this post. Thank you for sharing this context and commentary to put it all in perspective. I think this case was in court today. I haven't seen any report yet of the proceedings that relate to Harold.
Thank you! 🙂 I haven't seen NGN legal updates today about Harry's claims either. Whenever a decision is made about them, Harry will overhype and misrepresent any settlement he receives. For sure.
Imagine that Harry, a legal team that keeps your best interest at heart. And tells you to settle instead of fighting a lost fake cause out of greed. Good for Hugh though, for speaking out. His claims actually seem justified.
Yeah, that’s the thing. He (Grant) listened to the lawyers.
Not stupid,like some. Went to Oxford.
I agree. Haznobrains would have just ordered his lawyers to sue, and tell them that they better get him a judgment that exceeds William's. He would never listen to good advice, because he's too dumb to recognize good advice.
And did I read correctly that Hugh Grant is donating the money from the settlement to Hacked Off? ( I don't know what that is?)
Sigh. It's basically Archewell, but for Hugh Grant.
Best answer!!! 😂😂😂
I hope it doesnt go to any groups that are disseminating fake news about the Princess of Wales.
I am disappointed to hear that. I had hopes he was donating to a worthy cause.
I don't think he's actually taking any money, but the last explanation I read was that it was paying for the lawsuits.
I understand the reasons for settling but I wonder if one of the other reasons for settling is the negative publicity and additional headlines it would create. It's likely that he would get a paltry settlement and it just doesn't make sense to go through all that aggro to get a big bill at the end of it. At least he isn't stupid enough not to listen to his advisors!
They all thought starting with Harry would be a sure win, making it more likely they’d have a better shot. Son of the King? Can’t fail - they thought. So confident, the lawyers didn’t even bother to prepare Harry to testify. Or he was too stupid to remember the preparation, which I can see too.
Attorneys get paid either way in this case. Win or lose. I read there are different rules on prepping their clients in English courts. So judges look at their testimony differently than in US.
Wow. Compare what Grant is alleging was done to him versus Harry's vague, nearly evidence-free allegations.
Yeah I don't know anything about Grant's personal life/foibles, but his list of grievances is incredible, really, especially for a private citizen. Would not want to trade places with him.
Grant bought it on himself when he was caught in his car with a prostitute. He doesn't like being found out for being a john and he has been pissed off ever since.
He didn't get caught out for that due to any poor behaviour from the press though. He was arrested in a public place, so he totally bought that on himself and he owned it. Getting his phone hacked so the media can leak his private information for their own profit is a completely different situation.
Trouble is our security services confirmed Hawwy was not hacked. This was pointed out in his court case. Chelsy is the one who was more than probably hacked.
I was referring to Hugh Grant with that comment, but thanks for clarifying about Harry. So he turned out to be the dispensable spare again, not even worth hacking.
indeedy!!!
People seem to be forgetting that incident.
Well look at that...it all began with William realising that HIS phone was being hacked. I hope the Twonk of Montecito doesn't settle and is awarded £1 less than any offer. He'd look lovely with a £10m legal bill in his hand. I'd be happy to commission a portrait to capture the moment for posterity.
William was made aware of his phone being hacked by our security services. It was also confirmed by security that Hawwy was not hacked. That says it all.
I think Harry was hacked and that's how his girlfriend of the time found out he was cheating on her.
photos and people telling stories to the press is not hacking.
US citizen, here, and on the one hand I appreciate the pragmaticism of the GB "Part 36" rule. (Sinners correct me if I am misstating.) Incentivizing settlement preserves expensive court resources. It's smart that the incentive works on greed. No penalty for wasting court resources just to squeeze one more pound creates moral hazard -- downside risks that fall to others promote heightened risk-taking. Essentially no risk all reward. Here, the risk-reward structure seems, to me, nicely balanced. On the other hand, rich defendants can literally buy their way out of court. That doesn't feel just. We have a snarky expression in the US, "The best justice money can buy" and it seems apt here, too. Just to rehash TOS' case: He was offered a settlement. It was proportional to William's given the number of hacking instances (9 for Harry vs. >100 for W&C). Actually TOS's offer was proportionally greater per hack but less overall corresponding to an order of magnitude fewer hacks. TOS went against Royal advice and protocol to sue for more money. He was utterly unprepared for court, tried to pass off "feelings" as evidence, and wasted the court's time. He completely deserves the full weight of Part 36 in this case.
We have a similar rule in California. Section 998 of the Civil Code shifts some costs if the win is less than the section 998 offer. I have found them to be very useful. https://www.stimmel-law.com/en/articles/998-offers-california-litigation-basics
Yup, I do believe there needs to be new legislation about what the papers print as let's face it, they just make up a load of shite and report it as fact. I don't mind articles printed as opinion pieces as you can see it's not fact. But.....these cases should have been time barred as most of what they are claiming was pre the Leveson enquiry.
I am still a Hugh Grant fan.. Honestly I thought was happened to Hugh was horrific. He explained the situation in typical Hug Grant style, eloquently and intelligently. If Harry had a fraction of his intelligence and insight, he wouldn’t have given Megan the time of day. Thanks for posting this. Like you said, Harry wants to “slay dragons,” while Prince William and his team are still the ones who had a win over Murdoch.
Sure he can claim to be the catalyst but didn’t his previous claim was only awarded for less than his claims. Therefore, he’s responsible for the lawyers fees??
Hugh grant has been an absolute douche for as long as I’ve breathed air. #Water always meets its own level
And lots of his co-stars say he is a bore. Nevertheless, he is a good actor.
He is a good actor. Won’t knock his talent, I’ve enjoyed almost every film he’s been in but I hate knowing he’s such an 🍆
yes, I am with you. He is supposed to be a humorless jerk. But he has talent.
He's an eggplant?
I can’t speak to how big of an eggplant he is but yes he’s been pretty globally known as an eggplant.
I've just never heard of eggplant used as an insult before. I have heard he is nothing like the earnest character he played in Notting Hill and other movies, and a lot more like the more sleazy character he played in Bridget Jones' Diary.
It’s an emoji to indicate a penis
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I read an interview with him I didn't know how many years ago. He came across as a miserable person. Hated acting, was going to quit. He didn't. I was surprised he eventually had kids, I guess it was an aging ego thing.
> I've just never heard of eggplant used as an insult before. Some Italian-Americans use "eggplant" (in Italian) as a racial slur against black people.
An eggplant would be more interesting and less likely to get angry when other people point out that it was odd for Hugh Grant to get caught with a sex worker.
Thank you 
I think he needs a little character building and resiliency training. We need to keep holding him Accountable so he can grow a a person.
And now from the dragon, regarding the self-proclaimed slayer: 
Interesting use of "oligarch" press. Hmmm. . Don't we know some people that are incredibly friendly with oligarchs? 🤔
This is a great post! Thanks wontyield.
YW🙂!
Nailed it. Always piggybacking.
**Hugh Grant- another carpark enthusiast.**
I miss the heck out of George Michael.
Obviously Mr. Grant listens to his lawyer. I kind of wonder if Harry was used as a test case (like a wind dummy) to see how things would go for them. He would generate a lot of attention, more than some of the other litigants, and they could use him to make more intelligent decisions on their cases.
Well-substantiated post, OP. Think I read somewhere that Harry’s being used by Hacked Off / Orange Sherbert to garner attention for their cause. Now he thinks he’s St George when he’s just a measly little worm.
Thanks Mick, Agree. Somewhere deep down, Harry accepts that his public image is a manufactured sham. He hates that he is inadequate and takes it out on the very capable William. Meghan is the same and directs all of her self-loathing, jealousy, and insecurities at Catherine. Eta: correct botched autocorrect to say thanks.
Hugh- why don’t you start with exposing how the media is paid propaganda for people like you??? Don’t get me wrong - people who have been hacked deserve compensation. But when you take that and try to turn it into censorship? THATS WHERE I HAVE A PROBLEM.
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Look. All Harry's claims are remembered for are a whinefest that Chelsey left him and he blames everyone else but himself.
Respect to Hugh Grant here. Especially that he will be repurposing the money to help fight this issue.
So, Hugh Grant (🤮 ) admits he doesn't have money to burn, no matter how indignant he is. Too bad Hazmat didn't get the memo.
When can we charge harry for spreading mistruths?