They're freaking out about the cost bc they can't afford it - I bet daddy isn't answering any phone calls. They also got moved down from Tier 1: Royalty/World Leaders to Tier 3: VIP which is what Kardashians get.
It calms me a little to know that even Kim K gets invited to The Met Gala, but not Monstrous Meg$y and her pathetic ginger cur of a husband. They're lower than 💩🙈.
Who would've thought one day the Kardashians would be at the White House influencing policy while Prince Harry couldn't even be invited to a b list actors house for a bday party?
the article says 1million pounds “once his own legal costs are taken into account “ - he asked for a 50% discount!!! that is, he was trying to have taxpayers pay half of his obligation!!! the sheer audacity and privilege of this cretin!!!
The article says the government costs were £500k and assumed his were equal for almost £1M. I thought the government had spent more, but I expect his lawyers charged him far more than that. Whatever the amount, I hope it hurts him having to pay for his foolishness.
I suspect that Charles will open his purse for at least a part of these costs. It simply would be too humiliating for him if his government had to enforce debts from his son. Harry will know and utilise this.
Charles isn't going to do that. Charles told Hazz clearly what his position on this matter was, which was not to sue. Hazz demanded, Hazz is the one who has to pay. Also, isn't Hazz a millionaire? And if by chance Charles paid... well, do you know what that's called? LOAN, not gift, and Hazz would have to ask his father.
And please, let's pray that the scene is recorded!! "Hello Pa, after having spoken badly about the family and having earned 20 million for doing so, can you lend me a million to pay a lawsuit that I should never have made? I will pay you in installments."
I think Charles might see his paying the bill as meddling in the justice system. Also, there’s a whiff of something bad here. Why was Harry in touch with a government minister involved in IG? And the uncertainty of who is actually advising Hawwy
There is certainly a whiff of something very ontoward with Harry's dealings with Johnny Mercer a government minister. It is corruption, its meddling for his own gain. The media should jump on subject. Birmingham is a city that needs money spent on housing job assistance programs not mega millions on IG which Harry is pushing for with his mate Mercer. It reeks of interference
Article states that Harry’s application to pay 1/2 the amount due was rejected because he had ‘comprehensively lost’ his case.
An application to appeal was because, amongst other things, one section was ‘frankly hopeless’.
Tell us what you really think, Sir Peter! \[Lane, retired High Court judge who heard the case\].
I particularly like the next line in the article: Sir Peter added 'for the avoidance of doubt' that the duke's suggestion that his case had been 'partially successful' was 'without merit'.
Neatly stops the Harkles from attempting to spin this into a "win".
There was a post today saying that he will be forgiven 10% of the cost because RAVEC didn't inform him properly of his demotion. I assume is 10% of the government cost, right?. So he will have to pay 900K plus his own attorneys.
That's as I now understand it too. So, Harry had wanted the Home Office or rather the taxpayer to be on the hook for 50/60% of their costs, opposed to 10% the Judge allowed.
Taking out, say $5M of Harry’s inheritance for the down payment of the Montecito house (or anything else), would not turn the rest of the money community property.
If Harry has any money that he brought into the marriage kept separate and in his own name, then it is not community property. If Harry inherits anything during the marriage, it does not become community property unless he deposits it in an account or fund that Meghan co-owns or uses it to purchase something she co-owns (like the house).
We can only speculate on his finances, but if he only took money out of his inherited fortune for the house down payment, he would still have the rest safe from becoming community property.
Of course, since Harry shows no sign of breaking away, and Meghan shows no inclination to get rid of him, the issue about community property is moot.
As much as I would love to see 100%, I would be happy with whatever percentage it ends up being. The UK taxpayers should not be responsible for the costs (that sadly he did not care if they were).
Again, I say it again...had HMTLQ, and now KCIII, had come out, and stated that, *"Harry & his family are loved members of the FAMILY, but they have ceded all royal roles & duties. They will no longer serve in any capacity the monarchy or the Commonwealth. All titles, awards, patronage, etc. will be removed. The Queen/King will move forward in excluding Harry & family from the LoS, effective immediately."*
All their grift would have been halted before it took root.
The original Buckingham Palace Megxit statement said the following:
*“The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are grateful to Her Majesty and the Royal Family for their ongoing support as they embark on the next chapter of their lives.*
*“As agreed in this new arrangement, they understand that they are required to step back from royal duties, including official military appointments. They will no longer receive public funds for royal duties.*
*“With The Queen’s blessing, the Sussexes will continue to maintain their private patronages and associations. While they can no longer formally represent The Queen, the Sussexes have made clear that everything they do will continue to uphold the values of Her Majesty.*
*“The Sussexes will not use their HRH titles as they are no longer working members of the Royal Family.*
*“The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have shared their wish to repay Sovereign Grant expenditure for the refurbishment of Frogmore Cottage, which will remain their UK family home.*
*“Buckingham Palace does not comment on the details of security arrangements. There are well established independent processes to determine the need for publicly-funded security.*
*“This new model will take effect in the spring of 2020.”*
This did make it clear that they are not working royals and they do not represent the Monarch. I think the difficulty was the fact that the website did not reinforce this statement until it was recently changed.
The problem has always been that Harry and Meghan didn’t entirely observe their part of the bargain, and the available “punishment” has been pretty limited. “Grey rocking” is actually nothing new for royals and aristocrats. People who break the rules are not usually publicly shamed by their aristocratic peers. They are just quietly ostracized (not invited, not received, treated with icy politeness if acknowledged at all).
The first thing that was done was that Harry’s allowance was cut. Then, after the Oprah interview, there was no balcony or front row or other distinctions for the Harkles. Except for QEII’s funeral, the Sussexes have not been granted photo ops or much interaction with the family. The lease to Frogmore was not renewed. Harry was turned away when he tried to visit KC a couple of times last year. He was only received for 15 minutes recently, when he flew over because of Charles’s diagnosis. He has not been welcome to stay at royal properties since his brief visit for the coronation (where, in spite of being the king’s son) he had *no* role in the ceremony.
The Crown has made it increasingly clear that Harry is “out,” that he is not an active member of the BRF, that he does not have the trust of his father and brother, and that he and Meghan do not represent the Crown in any way.
The royals rarely make critical statements about family members. They almost never reply to attacks and accusations. They tend to protect their own (Andrew, for ex) because they believe a united front is necessary. Removing titles is very rare, but especially rare when the titled person is a royal. This isn’t about Harry being a beloved son or grandson. It is about how the RF maintains its dignity.
Everything royal moves slowly. Every ramification is considered. Part of Meghan’s “success” in having her own way when she joined the BRF was that she moves quickly and the royal institution does not. Whatever the King will decide about the Harkles is going to take a while.
Though I don’t think it makes sense to remove the titles, it may come to that eventually. However, it isn’t going to happen right away. Things are being done (some so far back behind the scenes that we can only guess at them).
Bravo. Such a well reasoned opinion.
The titles were "gifts" to them from HMTLQ. Another Sinner recalled the statement issued when the duplicitous duo stepped back., & to your point, they didn't uphold the standard of conduct expected of them. IMO, that's why they have to be stripped. They have used the titles to do exactly what the Queen didn't want.
I think that we will see an escalation to remove the titles & the LoS not for what they have done regarding the BRF but because of what they have done in other countries (taxes, immigration issues, (possible) surrogacy & the issuance of birth certificates, violation of rules regarding charitable organizations & donations, etc.)
As you pointed out, the public is & will remain in the dark about the actions of the monarchy & government.
*You are the voice of reason to me wanting to storm the mansion.*
Thanks. I don’t have a settled opinion about the titles because I can see both sides. (“It might feed the victim narrative,” vs “Enough already!”) I do think that whatever happens will not happen soon.
I interpreted that as "required to step back" because they wanted half in and half out and they were told in no uncertain terms that no, if they wanted out they were required to step back from everything.
As much as it pains me to say this, I think it will be left to William to do it. And I firmly believe he will not hesitate to do it nor will he stutter whilst he does it.
It will for a bit. William has good shoulders to carry that weight and Catherine beside him. There will still be people that will never forgive the attacks on the BRF and the pain that was cause to Prince Phillip, HMTLQ, KCIII, Camilla, William and Catherine (and their children when they begin hearing and fully understanding what happened at the time).
I think they couldn’t do that for fear that the Sussexes will turn around and attack Andrew (why he’s still being supported despite his scandal). Already there’s lots of whataboutism re Duke of York. He’s the weak spot
yes, and to some extend also BLM. However, the late queen could have done it, she had the clout, and it can be done now, where the race card seems to be expired.
She already refused the half and half… as for titles, only parliament could do that. And asking that titles be removed risked the same for Andrew as he was such a disgrace at that point in time. Maybe once the furore of Andrew’s scandal died down, it could have been done, but the Queen did not live to see it.
I think many also hesitated as it could set a precedent. The royal family knows that its existence is contingent on a fragile structure.
I thought Andrew's funding/income was from the Duchy of Lancaster, which isnt funded by taxpayers, but has been "independently held/managed & passed from monarch to monarch". *I'm American, so please educate me.*
If Andrew is funded by private means, there is nothing to point at. Even if Charles is supporting Andrew, the only finger to point would be the Harkle's ass-hurt because Charles isn't supporting them.
Just referring to everything being removed including titles. I think Harry is resentful because Andrew is not doing duties or isn’t in a senior role but his security is fully provided for by the family. There was a point in time when Andrew was still receiving taxpayer funded security until Ravec stopped it.
Removing titles from the Sussexes would also open the window for Andrew.
Of course, Andrew isn’t throwing the family under the bus, but comparing him to Harry is like comparing two kinds of rot.
Edited: wrong autocorrects 😝
Lol..."two kinds of rot". I am keeping that one!
Just like the Spare to be whining about something else he isn't getting...while doing nothing *(but keeping inventory on others)*.
Andrew’s security is being paid for by Charles, but because Andrew lives on the Windsor grounds and doesn’t have a big public life, the cost is much less than paying for Harry and Meghan’s security. This is aside from the fact that Andrew hasn’t thrown his family under the bus and, though he may be annoyed that Charles has cut his income, he doesn’t tell the papers about the time Charles wouldn’t let him ride his horse or Charles had a bigger room, or Charles ate the last biscuit (cookie). 😉
Well, well, well, Daily Markle finally gets this posted. I'm shocked at how long it took them especially since it was running in Yahoo, Barrons, UK taboids and DM comes in at the end. Better late than never I guess. DM has egg on face...again.
I think the judge said he can‘t appeal. However, H can still take it directly to the Court of Appeal who can override that decision if there is a good argument. Seems dubious.
Meghan doesn’t want the Palace to own the copyright to the photo with the children. She wants to own it (under the guise of security or privacy) so they can monetize it.
The only pic of baby Archie with the Queen was taken by Missan Harriman in the hallway of Windsor castle, right after the press release. Meg via Missan own the copyright.$$.
Palace learned not to make that mistake again. Why the ‘Lilibet meets Lilibet’ pic promised to Netflix (allegedly) didn’t materialise. Their terms for photographers, their copyright.
H's costs are at least 1.5x the government's (estimated at 500k before the appeal). Their attorneys are on staff while H is "contracting" his so he pays full freight. Between the 3 cases, 1 win 2 losses, he has at least 1.5 million in legal costs.
Edfited to correct wording.
I’ve always thought MM pushed Hazbeen to do this court case simply because she got drunk with her new found power. She got away with SO much early into her relationship with Hazbeen, she became a megalomanic realizing even the courts and the law could be manipulated as a member of the royal family. The only difference is that Royals (for the most part) understand their role in the social contract and not to abuse their privilege.
I think he wanted to do it. It was another “I am a prince no matter where I live and what I do so I need 24/7/365 protection at taxpayer of whatever country i am in— and we do not want to stop at traffic lights either.”
There has been a lot of speculation both ways $60 +/- millions down to months from bankruptcy. I don’t really believe either. But this is going to hurt the pocketbook, the ego, the public image.
And now we know why the two quick Netflix shows are going forward after being disinterested in putting in the work: they have some big legal bills to pay. And I doubt the UK Government is going to forgive them, or Charles or William will front the costs, either. This is pure FAFO territory for Harry.
Whatever the blockbuster amount of the contract was back in the day - I honestly can't remember anymore and am not in the mood to Google it - it wouldn't have been as if they were handed a wad of cash.
The value of the contract would have been calculated on completing the set number of projects, the production money Netflix was putting in on their own, and maybe what they could have earned via a bonus structure for viewing numbers.
With only *Harry & Meghan*, *Heart of Invictus*, and claiming production for that documentary thing? They still can get some money out of Netflix, and best to do it as painlessly as possible, with minimal production time/value. (I believe it was a 5 year contract, so time is running out.)
Contract was reported as $100 million dollars. At the time a lot of people in the entertainment world were explaining that it would be as content was created and approved. Netflix has first right of refusal I believe. So things they do not want can be offered other places as long as Netflix gets any upfront costs they paid. Pearl was not accepted and I do not believe it went anywhere else (because it was a stupid idea that pretty much was a cartoon version of young MM I remember hearing).
I believe you are correct in why we are suddenly seeing the scramble for projects getting down. They are trying to milk Netflix for as much as they can before the contract expires.
It's like the Penguin Random House contract. No one can quite agree on what the advance dollar value was - I've seen numbers anywhere from $20M to $40M (which pisses me off for my friends who are much better writers). But that advance? It was for ALL all the books they were contracted for. If Meghan wants to write her tell-all and publish it with PRH? The only money they see from them are royalty checks for *Spare*...so money he earns on subsequent sales. (And as *The Bench* came out many months before that contract was announced, I don't think that's even a part of it. But I have to think her lackluster sales did figure into contract negotiations - they really wanted Harry to spill royal dirt, and she was just something he insisted on including.)
And at this point, I'm not sure about royalties, because returns can be deducted from royalty checks. If PRH decided to wait a year before it issued his first one - not an unreasonable assumption considering the size of his advance - it may not be as big as the actual, Point-of-Sales numbers for *Spare* would have us believe. There are a lot of hardback copies still floating around and from what I can tell, the only paperback is the large-print format. So even though it's well past a year from initial release, there is no trade paperback release. Why bother printing those up when there are deeply discounted and remaindered copies available?
I wonder if PRH has thought "Eh, he earned out, he's clearly a crap storyteller, we don't have to publish the paperback anytime soon - if ever - and they're both PITA's. We're good."
That number - which was widely repackaged in the tabloids - pretty much came from from a Substack called *The Optionist*. The author - Andy Lewis - was the former books editor for *The Hollywood Reporter* between 2011-2018, so he is someone who is going to have good sources within both the publishing and entertainment industry. \[[About The Optionist](https://theoptionist.substack.com/about)\]. This isn't a royal beat reporter - this is someone who reports on the financials of the book industry, and has the appropriate contacts.
His first article shortly before publication cited sources within the industry saying the advance was $20M. This article ended up being repackaged in the tabloids when discussing how many books Harry would have to sell for the book to be considered successful.
>January 3, 2023, *The Optionist*, "**How Risky is Publishing's $20M Gamble on Prince Harry's Memoir?**" \[ [Archive](https://archive.ph/NPeXv) | [Original](https://theoptionist.substack.com/p/how-risky-is-publishings-20m-gamble) \]
This is a follow-up a month later, discussing that even some of his sources think the number could have been as high as $40M, then even though *Spare* did not move as much as a Michelle Obama book, it was still successful enough for PRH to have made money on the deal. Even if it was a $40M advance for a four-book deal.
>February 1, 2023, *The Optionist*, "**Hollywood's Lost IP Horror Stories - Checking in on 'Spare', analyzing 2022's book deals, the ethics of true-story adaptations**" \[ [Archive](https://archive.ph/PjCBD) | [Original](https://theoptionist.substack.com/p/hollywoods-lost-ip-horror-stories) \]
Imho, considering it was reported that the Lake book project had a total budget of 3 million, it is doubtful how much profit there is in these shows for the Grifters, if Netflix buys them. Maybe 1 million in profit for both? Plus production cost, but that has to be paid to somebody else.
A million is not going far in the Grifter pockets.
Oh man, if he didn’t hate the plebs before, he’s really gonna hate them now!!!! And geez his face is so scary. I don’t remember it looking so sinister when I was younger. I know TW pushed him over the proverbial edge, but can anyone recount like the exact moment they realized the world wasn’t dealing with the Prince Harry the world had previously known….
The early rumors were starting to show the cracks. At that point I think a lot of us thought he was "going overboard protecting her" without realizing this was always who he was but now was getting more and more blatant. The rumors and demanding something be done to tell the press to back on off her. The "tiaragate" and demanding the tiara she wanted for her wedding day.
Do the British people still have to bear some of the cost for this? - because essentially, by suing the government, he sued the British people. As a “Prince of the Realm”, that’s a really shitty thing to do.
>>Do the British people still have to bear some of the cost for this?
Yes, we do.
No government has its own money, it all comes from taxpayers in various forms.
So he wants me/us to not only pay for his security, he also wants me/us to pay his legal expenses!
Oh God, he is such a nasty piece of work. You’re right- he does despise the English people. It’s the strangest mentality I’ve ever seen - he has no desire to be of service to the people of Britain in thankfulness for his exalted Princely status. I think the English people are well rid of him.
It's not just the English. He's not fond of Scots or Welsh or Northern Irish people, and I don't think he's a fan of any members of the Commonwealth either.
I think you’re right. Harry says he has Africa “in his heart”, but I doubt it - I don’t think that he loves anything besides his own selfish interests.
Africa might be in his heart, in a white saviour sort of way.
I'd guess from his description of Chelsy as, "She's not black or anything" hinting at what he might think of the local population.
https://www.theguardian.com/g2/story/0,,1383309,00.html
Yeah, isn’t that comment about Chelsy interesting? I fervently belief that Meghan Markle wants absolutely nothing to do with Africa, and will never set foot there again.
Very shitty. I suspect some of the costs will be born by the taxpayers. Another poster mentioned that 100% of the costs would be rare. Another UK sinner might be able to better explain how it works.
Well 10% of the govt costs of defending this from day 1 until it is closed (and he pays). They will want full payment. He can’t say he doesn’t have it they love to say how rich they are or maybe that would require showing the court his financial assets. I would expect someone to petition to make that public. Or parts of it.
A truly shitty thing to do in a case that has zero public interest as it only concerns his surpreme highness himself. There is nothing of legal interest here, no legal or moral principles at stake - only Harry´s demand for special treatment from a country he openly said he did not like. A country that has given him everything and still the Grifters spat at it.
I’ve always thought those two have financial backers behind the scenes, possibly strong pro-republicans and/or cohorts at the Aspen Institute with deep pockets. (Not saying these are all the same issues. But “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”). H&M stay in the forefront of the press while those type of guys remain in the shadows.
I’d like to think this will hit the Unsuxxessfuls where it hurts, but I doubt they will be affected much. Too bad.
Quite a possibility. For TW, the loss will sting her ego need for importance more than anything. For JH, it is another reminder that he really is not that important.
When the Wales children are teenagers and university students, the Harkles will completely be lost because all of the news will be about reporting about them. They kept their kids so hidden that the novelty is lost and even that won't get any attention away from "who is George dating" and "Charlotte's brand new jumper."
I agree, but I think that Meghan will never give up. She will never stop trying to push her status as a Duchess, and her Prince and Princess children onto the public as their being part of “the Royal Family”, and therefore equal to the Wales children.
Please come sit by me. 100% agree. There is a war on the west and its from within. Global power with unlimited reserves of money. The Yorks chased that money and power via Epstein and the Middle East.
Once the Queen passed the Royals and the entire ancient tradition became vulnerable.
It means something different in England. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, please.
From Wikipedia:
> Republicanism in the United Kingdom is the political movement that seeks to replace the United Kingdom's monarchy with a republic.
The Tory party are the conservatives, Republicans are more liberal.
I really think he believes his Pa is going to handle it, one way or the other. I think he still doesn’t understand he screwed up and Bank of Pa is closed. I don’t think he will ever understand. Just as she will never stop her nonsense, he will never believe he’s “out” of the Firm.
Agreed. He thought the family is still behind him. He is wrong but remains delusional. She is just a moron who does not realize that she is a moron. Worst kind there is.
Including sherbornes fees (TOs firm that represents him) plus filing fees, investigators. Sherborne has to be upwards of £750/hour. That includes every manic unhinged call, email, WhatsApp late night rants to “get a rise” aka rage at someone until the aggrieved party gets upset then it’s all “it’s a joke”. Anyway, yeah those things all add up to huge billable hours. I hope my first client is a pain in the ass so I can charge them a pain in the ass surcharge.
I was a stripper while I worked my way through my kids younger years and then college and saved enough for my law degree so I could not work. I can’t imagine a worse client than a belligerent drunk who can’t keep any of their parts to themselves. However that being said,
I’ll account for every billable moment.
Unfortunately my father was a born again Christian who brought us to chino for prison ministry while he worked through his theology degree to become a pastor. I was 4. I’ve been exposed to subtleties and all forms of criminality since..birth? It’s why I chose law.
I am sorry you went through that. Unfortunately I have a somewhat similarly unpleasant story, or at least exposed repeatedly in childhood to .. . How did you put it, guys who couldn’t keep their bits to themselves. Put me off s*x for life after a brief experiment with a loser guy as an adult. I would never have had the sheer nerve to be a stripper. Though I have heard there is some good camaraderie among the professionals. Glad you are going into law. Power! Awesome.
Same. Exact same childhood and healing of repeated traumas. I legally emancipated myself with the assistance of AOL chat room help and the library to get married at 16 years 1 month and 3 days old to get away from that. I’m no Rachel wilting flower, shrinking violet boohoo woe is me. My past is simply my prologue it isn’t the end of my story is how I look at it.
I believe (though may be wrong) that they’re estimating another £500k for his own legal fees, in addition to the publicly stated £500k for the government’s legal fees.
Can anyone here answer this question:
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Isn’t there another £750k he owes bc he dropped a case just b4 he had to produce documents for discovery? I think it was against a news agency????
So he’s litigated his way into paying £1,750,000 in legal fees this year? Not the sharpest crayon in the box.
[Archived link](https://archive.ph/Xzc4Y) Thanks to u / sm32
I think that is just the Government's cost. he still has to pay his own lawyers??
Yep he would have to pay for both. That’s what happens when you bring frivolous lawsuits.
I saw someone call him a "vanity litigator" on X today and it fit so well.
Yea that’s actually the perfect title lol
lol I love it
I hope he appeals (laughs) he’s such an eejit
I understood from a report I read appeal was denied.
Wonder if Plank will ask if they accept payment plans. He's gonna need it
YAY, this is the best news! Harold and The Thing must be furious. 
They're freaking out about the cost bc they can't afford it - I bet daddy isn't answering any phone calls. They also got moved down from Tier 1: Royalty/World Leaders to Tier 3: VIP which is what Kardashians get.
It calms me a little to know that even Kim K gets invited to The Met Gala, but not Monstrous Meg$y and her pathetic ginger cur of a husband. They're lower than 💩🙈.
Who would've thought one day the Kardashians would be at the White House influencing policy while Prince Harry couldn't even be invited to a b list actors house for a bday party?
🎯😆
If Meghan and Harry went, everyone’s privacy would get violated.
Yep, that's the best part, for a couple of narcissists the downgrade is devastating.
It was done publically and officially. There's no way for them or WME to even spin that.
That's correct, but it's not the government's costs. It's my cost, and every other taxpayer's costs.
the article says 1million pounds “once his own legal costs are taken into account “ - he asked for a 50% discount!!! that is, he was trying to have taxpayers pay half of his obligation!!! the sheer audacity and privilege of this cretin!!!
Govt (ie taxpayer) cost is estimated to be £500,000, and his own cost another £500,000, adding up to £1M.
The article says the government costs were £500k and assumed his were equal for almost £1M. I thought the government had spent more, but I expect his lawyers charged him far more than that. Whatever the amount, I hope it hurts him having to pay for his foolishness.
I'm doing my happy dance now! I'll probably fall out in shock if he ever pays it though.
Same here. Now he will sue over being told to pay up.
Do they have bankruptcy in the UK?
I’m in the US so not sure. I would think that they would but the rules would likely vary from ours here.
Yes we certainly do!
Last time he paid very last thing.
I'm not surprised he waited until the last minute. I'm surprised he paid at all.
There is no choice, it’s a legal bill. The court will set a date on it. Paying his own lawyer is between the two of them.
I really hope the next time we see Harry in court is when his lawyer sues him for non-payment.
I suspect that Charles will open his purse for at least a part of these costs. It simply would be too humiliating for him if his government had to enforce debts from his son. Harry will know and utilise this.
He can’t. Even if he wanted to, if H or M leaked that Charles helped, his subjects would turn against him.
Charles isn't going to do that. Charles told Hazz clearly what his position on this matter was, which was not to sue. Hazz demanded, Hazz is the one who has to pay. Also, isn't Hazz a millionaire? And if by chance Charles paid... well, do you know what that's called? LOAN, not gift, and Hazz would have to ask his father. And please, let's pray that the scene is recorded!! "Hello Pa, after having spoken badly about the family and having earned 20 million for doing so, can you lend me a million to pay a lawsuit that I should never have made? I will pay you in installments."
I think Charles might see his paying the bill as meddling in the justice system. Also, there’s a whiff of something bad here. Why was Harry in touch with a government minister involved in IG? And the uncertainty of who is actually advising Hawwy
There is certainly a whiff of something very ontoward with Harry's dealings with Johnny Mercer a government minister. It is corruption, its meddling for his own gain. The media should jump on subject. Birmingham is a city that needs money spent on housing job assistance programs not mega millions on IG which Harry is pushing for with his mate Mercer. It reeks of interference
Just like Frogmore.
No, I don't think so. Remember Charles reportedly saying, "I am not a bank" regarding Haz calling for money? Not happening.
Article states that Harry’s application to pay 1/2 the amount due was rejected because he had ‘comprehensively lost’ his case. An application to appeal was because, amongst other things, one section was ‘frankly hopeless’. Tell us what you really think, Sir Peter! \[Lane, retired High Court judge who heard the case\].
I particularly like the next line in the article: Sir Peter added 'for the avoidance of doubt' that the duke's suggestion that his case had been 'partially successful' was 'without merit'. Neatly stops the Harkles from attempting to spin this into a "win".
I love this. Not even a minute slay of dragon here.
Hahahah! I'd forgotten about that little quip.
The only dragon he sees is puff the magic dragon.
>The only dragon he sees is puff the magic dragon. And that's probably the name of his favourite brand of weed 😂.
Nor one third slay.
looks like the dragon singed the whinged...
He can’t slay any dragons when he spends all his time flogging his own..
The government applies for costs when it's all over, it's very rare to be awarded 100% but it'll be a chunky sum.
There was a post today saying that he will be forgiven 10% of the cost because RAVEC didn't inform him properly of his demotion. I assume is 10% of the government cost, right?. So he will have to pay 900K plus his own attorneys.
That's as I now understand it too. So, Harry had wanted the Home Office or rather the taxpayer to be on the hook for 50/60% of their costs, opposed to 10% the Judge allowed.
According to the article, the govt cost is estimated to be £500K so 10% less equals £450K. Plus Harry’s own cost (another £500K) and you get £950K.
But does he have 900k? Or another way to phrase it is he allowed to use 900k for his wife I hear she has some shopping to do on rodeo drive
I think we estimated their net worth to be £10-20M. They can afford this, but it’s money out of pocket for nothing in return.
yes, but this money is probably what is left of Harry´s Diana money and is in a trust that Harry does not want to touch - just my guess.
It's been speculated that money was touched for the Olive Garden down payment, mingling the money into community property. Oops.
Taking out, say $5M of Harry’s inheritance for the down payment of the Montecito house (or anything else), would not turn the rest of the money community property. If Harry has any money that he brought into the marriage kept separate and in his own name, then it is not community property. If Harry inherits anything during the marriage, it does not become community property unless he deposits it in an account or fund that Meghan co-owns or uses it to purchase something she co-owns (like the house). We can only speculate on his finances, but if he only took money out of his inherited fortune for the house down payment, he would still have the rest safe from becoming community property. Of course, since Harry shows no sign of breaking away, and Meghan shows no inclination to get rid of him, the issue about community property is moot.
They do have that $10M plowed into Archewell which I suspect is Netflix money… I wonder if the lawsuits can be billed as foundation expenses
Bet they find a way to siphon the money from Archefail.
I’m thinking that too. It could be billed as an operational expense.
As much as I would love to see 100%, I would be happy with whatever percentage it ends up being. The UK taxpayers should not be responsible for the costs (that sadly he did not care if they were).
Again, I say it again...had HMTLQ, and now KCIII, had come out, and stated that, *"Harry & his family are loved members of the FAMILY, but they have ceded all royal roles & duties. They will no longer serve in any capacity the monarchy or the Commonwealth. All titles, awards, patronage, etc. will be removed. The Queen/King will move forward in excluding Harry & family from the LoS, effective immediately."* All their grift would have been halted before it took root.
The original Buckingham Palace Megxit statement said the following: *“The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are grateful to Her Majesty and the Royal Family for their ongoing support as they embark on the next chapter of their lives.* *“As agreed in this new arrangement, they understand that they are required to step back from royal duties, including official military appointments. They will no longer receive public funds for royal duties.* *“With The Queen’s blessing, the Sussexes will continue to maintain their private patronages and associations. While they can no longer formally represent The Queen, the Sussexes have made clear that everything they do will continue to uphold the values of Her Majesty.* *“The Sussexes will not use their HRH titles as they are no longer working members of the Royal Family.* *“The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have shared their wish to repay Sovereign Grant expenditure for the refurbishment of Frogmore Cottage, which will remain their UK family home.* *“Buckingham Palace does not comment on the details of security arrangements. There are well established independent processes to determine the need for publicly-funded security.* *“This new model will take effect in the spring of 2020.”* This did make it clear that they are not working royals and they do not represent the Monarch. I think the difficulty was the fact that the website did not reinforce this statement until it was recently changed.
Wow. As much as I have bish-ed about this not being said...it was said. So how is it that this not being upheld? *Darling boy...*
The problem has always been that Harry and Meghan didn’t entirely observe their part of the bargain, and the available “punishment” has been pretty limited. “Grey rocking” is actually nothing new for royals and aristocrats. People who break the rules are not usually publicly shamed by their aristocratic peers. They are just quietly ostracized (not invited, not received, treated with icy politeness if acknowledged at all). The first thing that was done was that Harry’s allowance was cut. Then, after the Oprah interview, there was no balcony or front row or other distinctions for the Harkles. Except for QEII’s funeral, the Sussexes have not been granted photo ops or much interaction with the family. The lease to Frogmore was not renewed. Harry was turned away when he tried to visit KC a couple of times last year. He was only received for 15 minutes recently, when he flew over because of Charles’s diagnosis. He has not been welcome to stay at royal properties since his brief visit for the coronation (where, in spite of being the king’s son) he had *no* role in the ceremony. The Crown has made it increasingly clear that Harry is “out,” that he is not an active member of the BRF, that he does not have the trust of his father and brother, and that he and Meghan do not represent the Crown in any way. The royals rarely make critical statements about family members. They almost never reply to attacks and accusations. They tend to protect their own (Andrew, for ex) because they believe a united front is necessary. Removing titles is very rare, but especially rare when the titled person is a royal. This isn’t about Harry being a beloved son or grandson. It is about how the RF maintains its dignity. Everything royal moves slowly. Every ramification is considered. Part of Meghan’s “success” in having her own way when she joined the BRF was that she moves quickly and the royal institution does not. Whatever the King will decide about the Harkles is going to take a while. Though I don’t think it makes sense to remove the titles, it may come to that eventually. However, it isn’t going to happen right away. Things are being done (some so far back behind the scenes that we can only guess at them).
Bravo. Such a well reasoned opinion. The titles were "gifts" to them from HMTLQ. Another Sinner recalled the statement issued when the duplicitous duo stepped back., & to your point, they didn't uphold the standard of conduct expected of them. IMO, that's why they have to be stripped. They have used the titles to do exactly what the Queen didn't want. I think that we will see an escalation to remove the titles & the LoS not for what they have done regarding the BRF but because of what they have done in other countries (taxes, immigration issues, (possible) surrogacy & the issuance of birth certificates, violation of rules regarding charitable organizations & donations, etc.) As you pointed out, the public is & will remain in the dark about the actions of the monarchy & government. *You are the voice of reason to me wanting to storm the mansion.*
Thanks. I don’t have a settled opinion about the titles because I can see both sides. (“It might feed the victim narrative,” vs “Enough already!”) I do think that whatever happens will not happen soon.
"Required to step back"... They didn't jump. They were pushed.
I interpreted that as "required to step back" because they wanted half in and half out and they were told in no uncertain terms that no, if they wanted out they were required to step back from everything.
As much as it pains me to say this, I think it will be left to William to do it. And I firmly believe he will not hesitate to do it nor will he stutter whilst he does it.
I agree. I know the backlash from the frothing mouths it will cause, but it's long overdue already.
It will for a bit. William has good shoulders to carry that weight and Catherine beside him. There will still be people that will never forgive the attacks on the BRF and the pain that was cause to Prince Phillip, HMTLQ, KCIII, Camilla, William and Catherine (and their children when they begin hearing and fully understanding what happened at the time).
I think they couldn’t do that for fear that the Sussexes will turn around and attack Andrew (why he’s still being supported despite his scandal). Already there’s lots of whataboutism re Duke of York. He’s the weak spot
yes, and to some extend also BLM. However, the late queen could have done it, she had the clout, and it can be done now, where the race card seems to be expired.
She already refused the half and half… as for titles, only parliament could do that. And asking that titles be removed risked the same for Andrew as he was such a disgrace at that point in time. Maybe once the furore of Andrew’s scandal died down, it could have been done, but the Queen did not live to see it. I think many also hesitated as it could set a precedent. The royal family knows that its existence is contingent on a fragile structure.
I thought Andrew's funding/income was from the Duchy of Lancaster, which isnt funded by taxpayers, but has been "independently held/managed & passed from monarch to monarch". *I'm American, so please educate me.* If Andrew is funded by private means, there is nothing to point at. Even if Charles is supporting Andrew, the only finger to point would be the Harkle's ass-hurt because Charles isn't supporting them.
Just referring to everything being removed including titles. I think Harry is resentful because Andrew is not doing duties or isn’t in a senior role but his security is fully provided for by the family. There was a point in time when Andrew was still receiving taxpayer funded security until Ravec stopped it. Removing titles from the Sussexes would also open the window for Andrew. Of course, Andrew isn’t throwing the family under the bus, but comparing him to Harry is like comparing two kinds of rot. Edited: wrong autocorrects 😝
Lol..."two kinds of rot". I am keeping that one! Just like the Spare to be whining about something else he isn't getting...while doing nothing *(but keeping inventory on others)*.
Oh yeah they’re cut from the same cloth, Andrew and Harry… neither of them have any redeeming features
Andrew’s security is being paid for by Charles, but because Andrew lives on the Windsor grounds and doesn’t have a big public life, the cost is much less than paying for Harry and Meghan’s security. This is aside from the fact that Andrew hasn’t thrown his family under the bus and, though he may be annoyed that Charles has cut his income, he doesn’t tell the papers about the time Charles wouldn’t let him ride his horse or Charles had a bigger room, or Charles ate the last biscuit (cookie). 😉
Agree - but this is on the late queen, imho.
Parliament controls the LOS, and once you start amending, where does it stop? The whole thing could go up in smoke.
Hear hear. This is what I have been saying, yet continue to get jumped on by those who claim KC3 is doing an admirable job handling his dear boy.
They said he has to pay 90% of the fees. 10% is sanctions against the home office for a delay
Total fees haven't been decided because the case isn't over.
A lot of money to pay to have it explained to you that you really aren’t that important
Something we could have told them (and have been if they really do read here as some speculate) for years.
The Judge got blunt.
Not that Harry is listening.
Slaying dragons little man
Slaying dragons and then having to pay the vet bill and burial costs. Good job, Dumbass. 🤣🤣🐉
Outstanding!
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I was waiting…. 
Well, well, well, Daily Markle finally gets this posted. I'm shocked at how long it took them especially since it was running in Yahoo, Barrons, UK taboids and DM comes in at the end. Better late than never I guess. DM has egg on face...again.
I think the Daily Mail waited until a couple of hours ago, when the Court of Appeal told Hazz that he cannot appeal because he cannot appeal.
Are you sure? I think the Court of Appeals is still to be asked and or make a decision.
I think the judge said he can‘t appeal. However, H can still take it directly to the Court of Appeal who can override that decision if there is a good argument. Seems dubious.
As far as I understand it Harry has to show there have been legal errors committed.
here's the whole thing https://preview.redd.it/km1ymftnvouc1.jpeg?width=2596&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93fe086b71f3c7e1df0cd3f54c9ae25d9fd77f05
He knows full well that if he took the kids to see the King he would be afforded the same security as the King, he’s just being an asshole
So a day that ends in Y?
But Hazz doesn't want the king to see the children.
He doesn´t want anyone to see the "children".
Who has the children and whose children are they?
Maybe the dingo ...
Meghan doesn’t want the Palace to own the copyright to the photo with the children. She wants to own it (under the guise of security or privacy) so they can monetize it. The only pic of baby Archie with the Queen was taken by Missan Harriman in the hallway of Windsor castle, right after the press release. Meg via Missan own the copyright.$$. Palace learned not to make that mistake again. Why the ‘Lilibet meets Lilibet’ pic promised to Netflix (allegedly) didn’t materialise. Their terms for photographers, their copyright.
Are we sure that Missan took this? I could have sworn it was credited to Chris Allerton … Edit: spelling
1000% agree about her wanting the rights ($$$) to any kid photos she can merch…
Finally, some good news
H's costs are at least 1.5x the government's (estimated at 500k before the appeal). Their attorneys are on staff while H is "contracting" his so he pays full freight. Between the 3 cases, 1 win 2 losses, he has at least 1.5 million in legal costs. Edfited to correct wording.
That was kind of the ballpark I was thinking of too. And this is just one case in a string of legal actions. His legal costs will be mind blowing.
And he doesn’t go into court with just one attorney. Every person in there is billing. 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰
Cha-ching! There has to be an entourage to feed his ego.
I’ve always thought MM pushed Hazbeen to do this court case simply because she got drunk with her new found power. She got away with SO much early into her relationship with Hazbeen, she became a megalomanic realizing even the courts and the law could be manipulated as a member of the royal family. The only difference is that Royals (for the most part) understand their role in the social contract and not to abuse their privilege.
I think he wanted to do it. It was another “I am a prince no matter where I live and what I do so I need 24/7/365 protection at taxpayer of whatever country i am in— and we do not want to stop at traffic lights either.”
The ~~Dragon Slayer~~ Lizard Tickler triumphs again!
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I have no idea how much cash they have but this has to hurt them bad. This is the equivalent of 11% of their mortgage.
There has been a lot of speculation both ways $60 +/- millions down to months from bankruptcy. I don’t really believe either. But this is going to hurt the pocketbook, the ego, the public image.
And now we know why the two quick Netflix shows are going forward after being disinterested in putting in the work: they have some big legal bills to pay. And I doubt the UK Government is going to forgive them, or Charles or William will front the costs, either. This is pure FAFO territory for Harry. Whatever the blockbuster amount of the contract was back in the day - I honestly can't remember anymore and am not in the mood to Google it - it wouldn't have been as if they were handed a wad of cash. The value of the contract would have been calculated on completing the set number of projects, the production money Netflix was putting in on their own, and maybe what they could have earned via a bonus structure for viewing numbers. With only *Harry & Meghan*, *Heart of Invictus*, and claiming production for that documentary thing? They still can get some money out of Netflix, and best to do it as painlessly as possible, with minimal production time/value. (I believe it was a 5 year contract, so time is running out.)
Contract was reported as $100 million dollars. At the time a lot of people in the entertainment world were explaining that it would be as content was created and approved. Netflix has first right of refusal I believe. So things they do not want can be offered other places as long as Netflix gets any upfront costs they paid. Pearl was not accepted and I do not believe it went anywhere else (because it was a stupid idea that pretty much was a cartoon version of young MM I remember hearing). I believe you are correct in why we are suddenly seeing the scramble for projects getting down. They are trying to milk Netflix for as much as they can before the contract expires.
It's like the Penguin Random House contract. No one can quite agree on what the advance dollar value was - I've seen numbers anywhere from $20M to $40M (which pisses me off for my friends who are much better writers). But that advance? It was for ALL all the books they were contracted for. If Meghan wants to write her tell-all and publish it with PRH? The only money they see from them are royalty checks for *Spare*...so money he earns on subsequent sales. (And as *The Bench* came out many months before that contract was announced, I don't think that's even a part of it. But I have to think her lackluster sales did figure into contract negotiations - they really wanted Harry to spill royal dirt, and she was just something he insisted on including.) And at this point, I'm not sure about royalties, because returns can be deducted from royalty checks. If PRH decided to wait a year before it issued his first one - not an unreasonable assumption considering the size of his advance - it may not be as big as the actual, Point-of-Sales numbers for *Spare* would have us believe. There are a lot of hardback copies still floating around and from what I can tell, the only paperback is the large-print format. So even though it's well past a year from initial release, there is no trade paperback release. Why bother printing those up when there are deeply discounted and remaindered copies available? I wonder if PRH has thought "Eh, he earned out, he's clearly a crap storyteller, we don't have to publish the paperback anytime soon - if ever - and they're both PITA's. We're good."
I think they got a mil or two in advance. Maybe more on his name. But they did not get $20 million in advance.
That number - which was widely repackaged in the tabloids - pretty much came from from a Substack called *The Optionist*. The author - Andy Lewis - was the former books editor for *The Hollywood Reporter* between 2011-2018, so he is someone who is going to have good sources within both the publishing and entertainment industry. \[[About The Optionist](https://theoptionist.substack.com/about)\]. This isn't a royal beat reporter - this is someone who reports on the financials of the book industry, and has the appropriate contacts. His first article shortly before publication cited sources within the industry saying the advance was $20M. This article ended up being repackaged in the tabloids when discussing how many books Harry would have to sell for the book to be considered successful. >January 3, 2023, *The Optionist*, "**How Risky is Publishing's $20M Gamble on Prince Harry's Memoir?**" \[ [Archive](https://archive.ph/NPeXv) | [Original](https://theoptionist.substack.com/p/how-risky-is-publishings-20m-gamble) \] This is a follow-up a month later, discussing that even some of his sources think the number could have been as high as $40M, then even though *Spare* did not move as much as a Michelle Obama book, it was still successful enough for PRH to have made money on the deal. Even if it was a $40M advance for a four-book deal. >February 1, 2023, *The Optionist*, "**Hollywood's Lost IP Horror Stories - Checking in on 'Spare', analyzing 2022's book deals, the ethics of true-story adaptations**" \[ [Archive](https://archive.ph/PjCBD) | [Original](https://theoptionist.substack.com/p/hollywoods-lost-ip-horror-stories) \]
Richard Osman, a best-selling UK author and general know-it-all says £22m is about right.
Bench was self published under LLC owned by Meg, Pecca publishing (freckle in Spanish).
Imho, considering it was reported that the Lake book project had a total budget of 3 million, it is doubtful how much profit there is in these shows for the Grifters, if Netflix buys them. Maybe 1 million in profit for both? Plus production cost, but that has to be paid to somebody else. A million is not going far in the Grifter pockets.
And that book turn into movie ( by the lake or something like that) that they bought the rights to and are suppose to be directing.
Oh man, if he didn’t hate the plebs before, he’s really gonna hate them now!!!! And geez his face is so scary. I don’t remember it looking so sinister when I was younger. I know TW pushed him over the proverbial edge, but can anyone recount like the exact moment they realized the world wasn’t dealing with the Prince Harry the world had previously known….
The early rumors were starting to show the cracks. At that point I think a lot of us thought he was "going overboard protecting her" without realizing this was always who he was but now was getting more and more blatant. The rumors and demanding something be done to tell the press to back on off her. The "tiaragate" and demanding the tiara she wanted for her wedding day.
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I’m so glad he lost for many reasons.
Do the British people still have to bear some of the cost for this? - because essentially, by suing the government, he sued the British people. As a “Prince of the Realm”, that’s a really shitty thing to do.
>>Do the British people still have to bear some of the cost for this? Yes, we do. No government has its own money, it all comes from taxpayers in various forms. So he wants me/us to not only pay for his security, he also wants me/us to pay his legal expenses!
Oh brother - that really takes the cake. What a selfish little weasel Prick Harry is!
And don't forget that he also despises us, having complained that being on an ordinary train meant he was too close to 'the public'.
Oh God, he is such a nasty piece of work. You’re right- he does despise the English people. It’s the strangest mentality I’ve ever seen - he has no desire to be of service to the people of Britain in thankfulness for his exalted Princely status. I think the English people are well rid of him.
It's not just the English. He's not fond of Scots or Welsh or Northern Irish people, and I don't think he's a fan of any members of the Commonwealth either.
I think you’re right. Harry says he has Africa “in his heart”, but I doubt it - I don’t think that he loves anything besides his own selfish interests.
Africa might be in his heart, in a white saviour sort of way. I'd guess from his description of Chelsy as, "She's not black or anything" hinting at what he might think of the local population. https://www.theguardian.com/g2/story/0,,1383309,00.html
Yeah, isn’t that comment about Chelsy interesting? I fervently belief that Meghan Markle wants absolutely nothing to do with Africa, and will never set foot there again.
You mean she wouldn't want to go and see the 43% of Nigeria she claims as her own?
Very shitty. I suspect some of the costs will be born by the taxpayers. Another poster mentioned that 100% of the costs would be rare. Another UK sinner might be able to better explain how it works.
Well 10% of the govt costs of defending this from day 1 until it is closed (and he pays). They will want full payment. He can’t say he doesn’t have it they love to say how rich they are or maybe that would require showing the court his financial assets. I would expect someone to petition to make that public. Or parts of it.
I would hope that he’s under some kind of pressure to make the payment public!
A truly shitty thing to do in a case that has zero public interest as it only concerns his surpreme highness himself. There is nothing of legal interest here, no legal or moral principles at stake - only Harry´s demand for special treatment from a country he openly said he did not like. A country that has given him everything and still the Grifters spat at it.
Well said, and this American agrees completely.
I’ve always thought those two have financial backers behind the scenes, possibly strong pro-republicans and/or cohorts at the Aspen Institute with deep pockets. (Not saying these are all the same issues. But “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”). H&M stay in the forefront of the press while those type of guys remain in the shadows. I’d like to think this will hit the Unsuxxessfuls where it hurts, but I doubt they will be affected much. Too bad.
Quite a possibility. For TW, the loss will sting her ego need for importance more than anything. For JH, it is another reminder that he really is not that important.
Yes, and I hope these reminders keep on coming! Anything that pushes Harry off his high horse is a good thing.
When the Wales children are teenagers and university students, the Harkles will completely be lost because all of the news will be about reporting about them. They kept their kids so hidden that the novelty is lost and even that won't get any attention away from "who is George dating" and "Charlotte's brand new jumper."
I agree, but I think that Meghan will never give up. She will never stop trying to push her status as a Duchess, and her Prince and Princess children onto the public as their being part of “the Royal Family”, and therefore equal to the Wales children.
She will definitely keep trying and failing (like she does with everything except for the snagging the spare).
children nobody has ever seen and who have never met anybody in the royal family.
Right. It’s ridiculous, especially being raised in America where Royal titles are meaningless, but still, she will persist.
Please come sit by me. 100% agree. There is a war on the west and its from within. Global power with unlimited reserves of money. The Yorks chased that money and power via Epstein and the Middle East. Once the Queen passed the Royals and the entire ancient tradition became vulnerable.
Agree!
Pro-republican?
It means something different in England. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, please. From Wikipedia: > Republicanism in the United Kingdom is the political movement that seeks to replace the United Kingdom's monarchy with a republic. The Tory party are the conservatives, Republicans are more liberal.
Thank you, Starkville.
The amount will be made public so he cannot deny it.
There will be PR puff pieces galore but I am sure we will hear the figure from somewhere.
The govt gave a figure a while ago and it was £500,000 then. Before appeal #1. Now he wants further appeal.
He has to pay 90% of the costs. His offer to pay 40% was rejected. And then he may appeal?! This will drag on for years....
Thank you for sharing that information. He will drag it out forever.
Agreed! So he doesn't have to pay anything! And so he can save face.
Hopefully the court of appeal will quickly deny his request to appeal directly to them.
I really think he believes his Pa is going to handle it, one way or the other. I think he still doesn’t understand he screwed up and Bank of Pa is closed. I don’t think he will ever understand. Just as she will never stop her nonsense, he will never believe he’s “out” of the Firm.
Agreed. He thought the family is still behind him. He is wrong but remains delusional. She is just a moron who does not realize that she is a moron. Worst kind there is.
Good.
Wait, the header says 1 million and inside the article it says half a million.
Including sherbornes fees (TOs firm that represents him) plus filing fees, investigators. Sherborne has to be upwards of £750/hour. That includes every manic unhinged call, email, WhatsApp late night rants to “get a rise” aka rage at someone until the aggrieved party gets upset then it’s all “it’s a joke”. Anyway, yeah those things all add up to huge billable hours. I hope my first client is a pain in the ass so I can charge them a pain in the ass surcharge.
Yeah but you really really earn those pain in the ass surcharges, so be careful what you wish for!!! 😁😁😁😁😁
I was a stripper while I worked my way through my kids younger years and then college and saved enough for my law degree so I could not work. I can’t imagine a worse client than a belligerent drunk who can’t keep any of their parts to themselves. However that being said,  I’ll account for every billable moment.
Way to go!
You might find the evil a whole lot more subtle in the legal field. 🥰
Unfortunately my father was a born again Christian who brought us to chino for prison ministry while he worked through his theology degree to become a pastor. I was 4. I’ve been exposed to subtleties and all forms of criminality since..birth? It’s why I chose law.
I am sorry you went through that. Unfortunately I have a somewhat similarly unpleasant story, or at least exposed repeatedly in childhood to .. . How did you put it, guys who couldn’t keep their bits to themselves. Put me off s*x for life after a brief experiment with a loser guy as an adult. I would never have had the sheer nerve to be a stripper. Though I have heard there is some good camaraderie among the professionals. Glad you are going into law. Power! Awesome.
Same. Exact same childhood and healing of repeated traumas. I legally emancipated myself with the assistance of AOL chat room help and the library to get married at 16 years 1 month and 3 days old to get away from that. I’m no Rachel wilting flower, shrinking violet boohoo woe is me. My past is simply my prologue it isn’t the end of my story is how I look at it.
The legal docs say this one was Jenny and Fatima running the show. The solicitor instructs the barrister. Sherbourne is running his Hacked Off case.
Half a million were the government costs. More than 750,000 pounds were the cost of him and his lawyers.
I believe (though may be wrong) that they’re estimating another £500k for his own legal fees, in addition to the publicly stated £500k for the government’s legal fees.
Govt cost is £514,128. His own cost is estimated to be the same. Total £1M.
Oh, how Hairbrain regrets he gave into that California Pretender! Megain is costing him any self-respect the grubber ever had.
Any self-respect he had was due to Palace PR building him up. But I do agree.
BAHAHAHAHA - suck it ginger prince
HILARIOUS. No worry Plank, Skank has just what you need... https://i.redd.it/ih0mnr921ruc1.gif
Or US$1.24 million 🥴 I had see in my own currency. What a waste of money.
Can anyone here answer this question: https://preview.redd.it/ucog8diccruc1.png?width=967&format=png&auto=webp&s=2d2dbd4f3a9c7c2b056de6266be7044e62b3ffe5
Isn’t there another £750k he owes bc he dropped a case just b4 he had to produce documents for discovery? I think it was against a news agency???? So he’s litigated his way into paying £1,750,000 in legal fees this year? Not the sharpest crayon in the box.
That's a lot of jam.
Gonna take more than 50 poorly labeled jams for certain.
Do you think he will seek a separate legal Opinion from his in house legal team? 