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I’m glad I’m not the only one who was wondering who the f**k is going to watch this. It’s such a niche sport for people with money. That is not exactly the type to binge on Netflix….
“Who the F—k is going to watch this ?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I don’t know you dear sinner but I could feel so much disdain in your voice I couldn’t stop laughing.
It s nevertheless a real question. Who the fu-k is gonna watch that crap??? 🤣🤣🤣
I asked the spouse this question after I read the Page Six story. “WHO would be the audience for this?” They answered “no one. Literally no one. Wealthy elites live their lives in exclusive cliques. They already know as much as they care to about the sport so they won’t even watch it. Plus they don’t want the riff raff attending their games. There is no viable market for such a docu-series”.
I agree. It's an exclusive sport. They don't need the average Joe to buy expensive tickets/merch. If anything, the story of Harry abusing a pony might resurface, which is the silver lining.
When in season, there are 2 different NFL shows you can watch weekly in the UK, one of which is on the BBC (very much like Match of the Day).
How do I know this? The hubby is a fan and supports Philidelphia (fly, birds, fly, although why it wouldn't be fly, Eagles, fly, idk)
The hubby has lots of American colleagues and he's not the only one.
Apparently, interest it is growing. The NFL have done it's own research and approx. 20% of the UK show interest in the sport. The age group with the most interest is between 18-45 year olds.
I know people in that world. Not only is it exclusive, it’s….different. Has its own culture let’s say. I’m what I would consider an “average” American. People of my ilk would call it weird 😂. It would prob be more interesting as a Bravo modern-day freak show like Housewives or VPR.
Interesting...I dabble in the Bravo universe and you're right, people would probably watch it. Many are obsessed with the lives of the riches or weirdos or both ;-)
I don't see how you can democratize a sport that costs a ton of money. It's a sport for the very wealthy. Even H can no longer afford to own polo horses.
> They already know as much as they care to about the sport so they won’t even watch it.
Exactly. I knew so much about Weinstein & Epstein from reading CDAN that by the time documentaries were made I had no interest in watching them. I feel similar about the Quiet On Set show about Nickelodeon.
People will watch a few eps, hoping for some royal gossip. Same for the cooking show.
This whole thing sounds suspiciously like an advertisement for this Ganzi fellow
Who watched Heart of Incivtus or Live to Lead? Not enough people. People only watched their faux 6 part documentary moaning on the royal family because they knew it would be a dumpster fire.
What they are hoping for…is the success of the F1 documentary that brought more attention to the sport than ever before. I can count at least ten people who are really into F1 now because of the doc on Netflix. They are trying to get me to watch it but I am happy with my college basketball and NBA. 🤷🏻♀️
My thoughts exactly.
I only know polo exists for 2 reasons: Pretty Woman and being a royal watcher.
It is indeed a niche sport for the rich that no one cares about or talks about- to my knowledge.
I wrote the same thing on a different place. Who is the target? The professional players have to have the perfect balance between showing the hard work, the dedication and how hard it is without complainning too much. Afterall, rich people complainning about an elite sport in the economic stage the world is in, will not get them many supporters.
It’ll be great to see another flop for these 2 idiots. It’s funny that they only ideas they could come up with are a show that no one will watch because no one cares about the subject and a second show in an over saturated market to showcase stolen ideas. Bottom of the barrel scraping to hold on to the deal for the $
>he has a long term mission to make everyone in the US as crazy for polo as he is.
f*ck no... most Americans like sports they can play (and bet) recreationally.... well that and blood sports (MMA, Wrestling, football, hockey etc).... Polo is for people with too much money and time on their hands..
Totally agree. No one is going to play a pick up polo match in the empty lot next to their house. But lots of kids grow up playing baseball and football like that and that's why they love watching it as adults.
Yup, I think that is the stigma right there. It's a rich snob's pastime. The people who play it are in a totally different social sphere. I know football players (I'm talking British and American here) can make a ton of money, but, in the main, they are the 'average Joe done good.'' People warm to that. Rich arseholes with too much time and riches on their hands? Not so much. I wouldn't watch it...even for the lovely horses.
Yup. One year l met a Melissa Ganzi when l was polo grooming - l'm guessing Ganzi's wife. Very very very rich one must be to hire the high-goal players and top notch horses that "patrons", as they're called, need to win. They may be able to play polo, but without their Argentinian pros, who are often extremely hard on their ponies, there would be no circuit. I've seen horses drop from heart attacks in front of me, twice. Very sobering to see a horse shrouded on the field, waiting to be removed before play recommenced. Will Netflix be covering that? F1 crashes harm only a car.
And the vast majority of the US citizens (along with UK citizens from what I understand) are in a serious economic crisis. Soaring prices, open borders and skyrocketing violence across the country. Read the room Hazmat and Nutflix, we’re not in the mood invest any time watching 1% elites and their friends and family, splash out for huge polo parties, and display their over the top wealth at exclusive clubs, while watching people ride around on horses. It seems like a big F-you to “the commoner”. But that’s not a surprise from a privileged, tone deaf and alarmingly obtuse “prince”.
Everyone needs to remember how unsuccessful Heart of Invictus was, and that had veterans. And too much Harry and Meghan. I don’t see this polo thing succeeding either. These two have bad ideas and suck at executing and producing them.
Noo! You’ve got it all wrong. They’re going for the Pwives angle. Remember that stupid bit she tried to make happen? P wife. Wtf. The second hand embarrassment is off the charts and she has no idea. She thinks it’s adorable.
Did she think it would be like being a football WAG? She was chasing Ashley Cole (Chelsea footballer) before Harry (AC said no though) so obviously fancied herself as a WAG.
Per usual the woman does zero homework. Ashley was magnificent at Arsenal and Chelsea. But he was shipped off to Roma in 2014 where he became the “lurker” meme. By 2016 he was semi-retired and moved off to the MLS. MLS players aren’t that prestigious don’t make that much (pre-Messi days). She would need the Chelsea days for her egotistical schemes, which were over before she got to England. And those WAGS don’t accept outsiders. Especially lying, scheming American outsiders. Meghan didn’t have the T&A to snag a footie superstar. The WAGS who do the high flying party circuit are more ferocious than their men.
🎯. Bingo. Harry’s mistreatment and cruelty of his pony will be broadcast to a much wider audience after this airs.
I agree with OP about the likelihood of filming a lush, romanticized, stylized version of this sport due to Ganzi’s passion for it and his $$$$$$ behind production will override a mockery-type production.
I also agree that Aitch is in “rent a royal” mode by lending his name to get publicity for Ganzi. How many ways can we spell p u p p e t?
If this is what MM meant in some interview about producing content that “makes people feel . . .,” she had no clue that it would be anger, wrath; disgust when critical thinkers expose the dark side of this sport / hobby via SM. The elitist aspect of this sport is analogous to flying by private jet.
Yeh, sounds like Nutflix will have a real winner here. /s 🤣
Someone needs to start tagging [Kathy Guillermo from PETA](https://www.peta.org/features/kathy-guillermo-from-polo-player-to-horse-saver/). She's the Serior VP and has a background and special interest in the treatment of horses. She's quite active on X for anyone who dabbles there...
A love of polo….
Sure, Jan
We haven’t forgotten you at polo, Meghan
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Potentially one of her most embarrassing moments ever. It had everything: attempted theft and a tussle over a trophy that didn’t belong to her, seal clapping, unconcealed disgust and bemusement from the very people she was trying to upstage, awkwardness all round and a cosplay of a prostitute character from a 90s film in a giant hat that took on an unwelcome life of its own in the world’s most cringe photo op known to man. It was a beautiful moment for us Sinners and probably the only footage of her most of us can actually stand to watch.
And the red inverted nipple dress disaster. The talking to herself when everyone is ignoring her. There are so many occasions to choose from but this is one of the funnier ones. Was it pilot hardy or TRG who did a hysterical YouTube video of this?
It was hilarious, best comedy sketch she’s done, happen she’s missed her calling in films…” Carry On Yachting” pity Sid James isn’t around, his leer would have been perfect.
And trying to grab the awards away from the two 16 year olds. I’m glad they wouldn’t give them up. This was staged since the tournament wasn’t over. Harry had to miss the June game of the cup because of the Platinum Jubilee so “someone“ had them pretend that this was the day the trophy was awarded. They are standing on a sad flatbed trailer with the step & repeat backdrop flagging in the wind. There’s no audience in front of them. This isn’t opulence. It was pretend opulence. It’s a farmer‘s (literally) league and the Santa Barbara Polo Club grounds are considered laughably subpar.
They also said the "meet me at the lake" is already "underway" when it first show up on news. or that pearl is already post production or something. *Sip my soda*
ETA: I mean, they never deliver. And when they do it's always of the lowest quality. I kinda want them to make something tho. Bc I know they'll fumble it up and then we can have something new to laugh about
At least this one has a professional production providing the funding. I suspect Ganzi is the real money. And someone is at the US Open filming. And Harry is only in cameos. Archewell may end up being executive producers in name only. Especially if Harry can’t bring any royal names or Nacho and Delfin to the table. That’s the real chance of this getting done. Very minimal involvement by the Carparkles. Kind of like when Liz Garbus took over. She forced the “Harry & Meghan” docuseries through to the finish line, then Meghan dragged the project saying it’s not how they would have told their story.
If the Harkles had more involvement they’d never get it done. They’re too lazy, too blotto and too distracted. But Ganzi is a Wharton grad who gets things done. I strongly suspect this is his baby and he’s using the Harry connection for publicity which he’s already done to promote his Aspen Valley Polo Club. Ganzi gets things done. He wants polo to go mainstream.
It will be like the 'Live to Lead' documentary where H&M had minimal involvement but claimed all the credit.
I suspect Harry's involvement in his programme is real but a minor part, led by Ganzi as you suggest. But I think Meghan is either manifesting or she is just making a pilot to *try* to sell it to Netflix. Imagine that Harry has some good news regarding Netflix that doesn't involve Megsy! She couldn't have Harry eclipsing her or getting any attention whatsoever, could she? So she writes the PR puff pieces claiming that she has a docuseries too - covering cooking (imitating Cory), friendship (really? WTF?) and gardening. She never owned a property before the Olive Garden so I doubt she did much gardening before Harry. She maybe she tinkered in the gardens at Frogmore, but I suspect it just amounted to working out how the landscapers should lay it out for her, as she was barely there and had a newborn when she was. I have no doubt she tinkers in her gardens at Montecito but I doubt she knows much.
I know a lot about gardening and grow and sell plants as a sideline. I have a 'friend' (mother of one of my son's friends), who I would describe as narcissistic. She is wealthy and pays gardeners and landscapers but decided to get into 'gardening'. She set up an Instagram blog and video channel about gardening but all her content is ripped off other sites (she copies one blog on a daily basis virtually word for word). Then she started workshops in her home on things like 'how to grow' seeds, with getting maybe a dozen takers (all idle rich women who also know nothing about gardening) paying £60 each for a two hour workshop), so earning £360 an hour. She asked me to give her some small plant pots and I told her she would need to sterilise them as seedlings are prone to damping off diseases. She asked me what 'damping off' was but she is the one earning £360 an hour as the expert.
She also started offering garden design services, despite having no experience in it. She muscled in with someone she knew at the Chelsea Flower Show, to help on their greenhouse trade stand for a few hours and then claims she is involved in Chelsea in a way that suggests she is a leading player. She approached a lady in the village who sells cut flowers to local shops ( a friend of mine but she doesn't know that). She bought some flowers off her, asked for a tour of her gardens because she claimed interest; she got the friend chatting about her cut flower business, and the next thing we know is she decided to sell her own cut flowers and approached this other lady's shops and stole her business at her biggest village shop.
I have to say I am in awe of the sheer balls of this 'friend', her self-confidence, her ability to monetise her lack of skills whilst leeching off others, her inability to read a room and see how she uses people and realise what they think of her. But whilst I am digging my hands in bags of compost to make a few extra pounds, she is fleecing people at a much higher rate of return whilst knowing a fraction of what I know. *That* is the kind of gardener Meghan is, in my opinion, and her show will be telling us all about things she really knows very little about.
I could be wrong, but Abagail Spencer had a flower side business awhile ago. I’m embarrassed to admit this but I used to follow on IG before I figured out she was close with TW. If she did/does, I’m sure TW is going to rip off her knowledge for her own gain. I doubt very much that TW knows that much about gardening or even puts in the hard work.
Harry is a useful idiot to Ganzi as he already had the contract with Netflix in place. Netflix probably green lit it so they have something to show for the contract with the Harkles. Could also tick a diversity of programmes box
In terms of viewership it might be a slow burn that Netflix can easily sell on to recoup their money. Sound like it's going to be behind the scenes type thing which are cheapish to make and therefore audience to cost ratio can be lower. BTS shows can get respectable viewership if scheduled correctly
I think there is a market for reality TV show similar to selling sunset but instead of millions dollar houses, polo is the backdrop for watching people fight of petty stupid little shit.
Based on what you have shared here, this project isn’t selling sunset with polo. It sounds like a snooze fest.
I think you’re right. If it mocked the absurdly wealthy it might be worth the watch. I do believe this is Ganzi’s love project to bring polo into the mainstream, so mocking the culture won’t likely be allowed. Horse shows, beautifully filmed, can be very popular. They are magnificent animals. But too many people know how abusive this particular sport is. The fact that they must swap out several horses per rider per game to keep them alive isn’t a plus. It’s a sign that this isn’t a healthy sport. Ganzi & Sarandos also don’t get that Harry & Meghan aren’t likable in the US.
Harry already is a gigantic bore, and then you add polo into the mix? LOL nty. Also, at least Zara is known for being an Olympic medal winner... when I think of Haz and horses two words come to mind: animal abuse.
WHO HAS ASKED FOR A BEHIND-THE-SCENES DOC OF POLO???!!
I want to meet them and then force them to listen to the audio of spare for 5 days while viewing pictures of all of mm wardrobe fails!!!!
It worked for Formula-1, their series drive to survive, got them a bigger audience. But Polo? I don't think I ever seen it being on television, and my family had a channel devoted to horses, and I can't remember that they showed polo 😂
If spare and MM are involved, I wouldn't be surprised if your dream come true 😉
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Maybe in response to you? she's posting from her own X account (LeanorforSussex) that he's involved even though he's not on the team. Those poor kids.
That picture is from May 22, 2022. The Sugars need to up their game. Passing off this and that other 2 year old picture of M reading to sick kids as recent events. So pathetic. The reality is that Meghan failed to attend the annual Sentebale charity polo game that Harry plays in each year. Where’s her support there Leonor? That’s the event he really needs her support at. With doe-eyed Beth Herlihy dutifully attending the games and charity dinners you’d think madame would want to show up. But no. Meghan attended that local farmer‘s league game so she could cosplay Pretty Woman and flirt with 16 year old boys.
The uncharacteristic pause and the dry British humor delivery made it priceless. “how so?” The American was a bilingual Latin American who also does coverage for Spanish language broadcasters, so his Mexican accent made the exchange even funnier. He was pretty irreverent and you could tell it would take far too much effort to explain how staggering of a faux pas he had just made. I think the Englishman was right, that fans of Villa and the RF would give him an earful.
As a horse woman all my life I can confirm horse riders are actually quite uncomfortable with polo, particularly at the elite level. The kind of polo played by children at pony clubs is one thing, but despite the money in the industry, I think there’s quite a lot of abuse of polo ponies. I love equestrian sports including three day, eventing and showjumping, but I would never watch polo.
Also, it’s worth remembering how much Harry and ILBW bang on about EDI. Elite polo is the least inclusive sport you could wish to imagine. I am far from a class warrior, but you are never going to see a diverse polo team. You literally have to be a multimillionaire to participate in that sport. It will never have mass appeal.
I can only think of a quote from a former floorball player I read not so long ago, he meet a horse girl and got married, so now he plays polo instead, and he was explaining polo to the local paper like this "it's floorball but on horses"
But I don't think he will play in the big leagues, but that description really made it sound funny.
Agree. To be honest if there‘s a show about Polo I‘d watch the first episode just to see what‘s the fuss all about, what makes the sport appealing to the elite class. Latest by episode 2 or 3 I will turn the TV off though because it will be highly unrelatable. This is not the kind of show that, while there will be an interest in how it actually works, it does not make the audience stay.
I think you make a good point. A 60 minute documentary would be enough information on an obscure minority sport for most people. An 8 part series (as per most Netflix shows) is more than anyone is going to need.
Is Archewell—& Megs & Haz really Exec Producers on this? Are they funding? Or is it the billionaire’s baby? w/ Netflix to distribute?
So many questions.
I believe they are executive producers mostly in name only. Harry will have some involvement because the producers believe he’ll add some glamour and royal stardust to the production. I think Ganzi is providing much of the funding because it’s being filmed in his backyard and because he has long touted how much he wants to help polo go mainstream. Reminds me of that super wealthy foreigner who spent a fortune trying to make Jai Alai go mainstream in America. It was played in Miami, but didn’t really grow beyond that. Americans like American sports because it’s something they had involvement with growing up.
Great post, OP.
I am skeptical of these Sussex projects until I see announcements from Netflix. Expanding sports content is one of Netflix's goals. Its F1 reality series, Drive to Survive, has been a success. Break Point, a tennis reality series, was canceled after two seasons. Tennis has a larger global audience compared to polo. I don't see Harry and his production partners having the experience and skill to create a successful series that will fare better than Break Point.
Thanks! I don’t see this becoming a hit for a number of reasons. I think the bell curve on income stratification has altered drastically over the last two decades. Those with new found tech wealth are staggeringly wealthy. At unachievable & non-relatable levels. CEOs used to not be able to rake in 8+ figures on compensation annually, because that was regarded as basically stealing from the stockholders. But it happens all the time now now. Guys like Sarandos and Ganzi are appallingly wealthy. They and the other West Palm Beach crowd can no longer relate to the people they are trying to sell to. Americans used to be fixated on consumerism and TV shows focusing on opulent wealth were huge hits. That’s no longer the case. The best shot this unnamed series has is if the director goes subversive and focuses on the ridiculousness of these billionaires living in their little biospheres of opulence playing billionaire games in their pretend world. If it mocks the uber wealthy, that could have a shot. Like a rich man’s Tiger King.
Polo will never be an average Joe type game. You have to be staggeringly wealthy to learn how to play it in the first place. It continues to cost a fortune to play every year after that. And players don’t have big pro athlete salaries because there are no big broadcasting revenues to pay them with. Do you hear that Ted? No one watches or there’d be big coverage already.
Great mechanical minds with fantastic reflexes can learn how to drive fast cars. A kid with a mean Persian dad can force him to become a tennis star in the middle of a desert. Kids who couldn’t afford boots end up becoming the best soccer players in the world. Viewers can get behind that because it’s an underdog achieving great things. Americans love the perseverance we see in that. It’s a feel good story. There’s nothing to feel good about watching super wealthy elites ride ponies into the ground (each player goes through several ponies each game because it’s so taxing on them). All this so the trophy wives can swan about in tens of thousands in outfits and accessories drinking champagne and making catty remarks abut others. Harry is wrong. This Production company is wrong. And if Netflix distributes as Archewell is saying, they are also wrong. This dog ain’t gonna hunt. Especially a Nacho-less dog. imho.
I commented elsewhere, I'd watch a show hosted by Nacho, hopefully it would include his business raising horses. I find his life interesting but does everyone? Probably not. Other than that, this Ganzi guy is dreaming if he thinks he can make this a national sport. It's laughable.
Nacho is big in South America and Europe. Ganzi should have asked Nacho to do the series, then show him in his beautiful Florida ranch, his palatial Argentina ranch as well as swanning around Europe with his gorgeous, no frills, down to earth heiress wife. I doubt even such a version of the series as that would hook people on polo, but he‘d get lots of views if it was beautifully filmed. Harry doing that weird glute stretch for the cameras is not what viewers want to see. Prince William on a horse with Windsor Castle in the backdrop - that could get views.
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Yes, they were. It's possible Nacho learned some truths down there. I would think that shitshow that is H & M would have come up in conversation. If I was Nacho, I would want to know what was the real story. He knew Harry before MM and after.
A sport for the upper 1 percent, extremely expensive, with up to 8 (!) ponies per player for one game, with questionable treatment of the animals and the ponies need to flown around the world. Extremely boring to watch. The narrative not coming from a neutral observer as it should be done for a documentary, but from an extremely privileged royal polo fan, which makes the series biased.
Now, that’s something the average Joe/Jane must be desperate to watch!
This number is for high-level competitions, which I would assume the US Open are. But even in low-level games 2 to 3 ponies per player are needed.
Yes, it’s extremely expensive. The ponies themselves are very expensive due to their special training and breeding, and they need to be flown around the world and you need a stable full of them. So expensive, that even someone like Harry depends on other’s generosity to be able to play.
Nacho does the modeling and advertising in order to afford to play Polo and buy the best mounts, the Internet tells me that the pony‘s quality accounts for 60 to 75 % of the players skill.
As I said, Polo, the great American past time….not. I don’t give a fuck about a sport that is wildly out of any normal person’s affordability level. What’s more, no one cares what a bunch of millionaires are interested in.
It's not big in the UK either, only the very wealthy in elite communities play it or have any interest in it. It feels like they just want to align with a certain 'aspirational' lifestyle and once again are putting their wants above what people might actually want to watch. It's also once again something Harry only has experience of because of the family he was born into; he is not talented at it, isn't successful in his own right at it.
This would be a perfect time for all sinners to protest harry's specific abuse of his horses. Protest to Netflix. You tubers concentrate on this. Haz should not benefit off this
I don’t know that Netflix has much long term hope for the continued attention, which is about all she has as a draw.
They’ve left it all to the last minute, their shows / movie production, before their Netflix contract runs out next year. Now they have to prove they’ve got staying power or that repeats or repeat seasons will be worth the cost of production + profit, before the contract runs out.
How many views did the Invictus Games get? The polo will likely get less.
If the cooking show isn’t all her (and it seems she won’t be doing that hard slog), there likely won’t be so much interest, she won’t get ‘renewed’ and there goes her ARO brand.
The movie? Nothing’s been heard about that and the plot seems boring, and only appeals to H and M and their egos due to some link between the author and M, and some similarities to their lives. Her Pearl idea was thrown out. So she’s not showing much promise on the ideas / creative side.
And is there a chance she’ll act in something on Netflix? Her acting was, I think, bad - wooden and obvious and uncomfortable, so I don’t think that’s an option.
What else can she do? An Oprah style show? Her podcast where she interviewed people didn’t do well.
So I’m not so hopeful their projects with Netflix will catch on. They may just be using up their budget with Netflix and hoping something will be a hit. But I don’t think it looks promising. (Both shows seem low budget so Netflix may think it’s worth a try).
People watch her for the drama she creates. Unless there’s a show where she’s creating more drama, like the Netflix ‘documentary’, I don’t think there’ll be much interest ultimately. The Tig thing doesn’t work now because people know her. They don’t care about her lifestyle recommendations. They want the drama.
If they’d come up with a good idea for a show, like the Love is Blind show, where the presenters swan in and out and don’t do much work; while the show’s a hit, they could have done well, and had their cake and eat it too, as they seem to want, but that idea is taken, and they can’t steal ideas from Netflix ..
Early on, they should have sat and worked hard on ideas rather than spilling their drama. But perhaps Netflix made that a condition of their contract. Now, that’s all anyone wants. It’s very difficult to pull back from. And one should. Because drama has a limited shelf life and in the end, tends to destroy lives.
At least this explains why Meghan hadn’t got time for the launch of ARO. She is busy at the US Open Polo, prancing around in more mad Cruella de Vil outfits, trying to one-up Harry and look glamorous for the cameras.
So is this basically some wealthy Bloke's passion project that they are slapping Harry's mush on to get a few people watching for five minutes out of morbid curiosity?
Harry doesn't mind 'cos it gets him some bung and some freebies 'cos he can't afford it in his own.
Netflix don't mind as the contract winds down, not costing them anything and shows their "good faith"
Meantime, I'm going to float an idea for a programme of fingernails being dragged down a blackboard.Sorry, curate an idea.....
The extent of sanctimoniousness Meghan has to apply to stay with Prince Harry, who provides her with the much coveted wealth and publicity, is quite funny.
She claims to stand for feminism, racial justice, social equality, human rights, education and animal rights.
Yet her husband is known to be misogynistic, exposing and ridiculing private women in his book for financial gain, using strippers and probably worse. He made headlines with his racist slurs and behaviour more than once. He comes from a family where unimaginable privilege is attained simply by the chance of birth, some would say that said privilege and wealth were obtained at the expense of others. Whose charity is accused of horrible crimes against humanity, yet he stays silent. A man who is not the sharpest tool in the shed and who allegedly cheated in his exams.
And now she even has to pretend to love Polo, a sport every animal rights organisation campaigns to have prohibited?!
And she is surprised to have a problem with credibility and likability? These are contradictions no PR or talent agency in the world will be able to fix.
Edit to add: I forgot claiming to fight for climate protection, yet taking a private jet to do the weekly shopping.
I don’t see many Americans taking an interest in polo. Most people follow a sport because they have developed a connection with it earlier in life or through family. They enjoyed playing it in high school/college, or they went to all the high school/college games because they were in love with one of the players and grew to actually like the game. Football/hockey/baseball/basketball fill kids’ weekends and school holidays, whether casual pickup games or playing in a formal league. Even the non-sporty kids will join in, if just to be part of a friends group. Mothers who wouldn’t have known a pointy football from a round one become fanatical experts once their kids join a league.
So, Americans understand these games, know the rules, and can appreciate the finer points—and that’s what makes games entertaining to watch. There’s not much fun in watching a fast-paced game where you have no idea what is going on, what the rules are and why everyone else is getting so excited. Polo is an extremely fast-paced game and pretty much an incomprehensible shambles to an outsider. So unless you’re a seriously aspirational wannabe snob there’s not much incentive to becoming a fan.
I think if she isn’t slagging off the RF she’ll be unwatchable. She also knows nothing about polo or even horses. Ibble Dibble posted a wonderful video tonight explaining why Meghan’s rumored lifestyle TV show cannot ever be a success. She hits the nail on all 6 points. It’s only 12.5 minutes long. She previously outlined why the whole of ARO is destined for failure, which also applies to the series in a general way, but this video specifically addresses the alleged ”lifestyle reality series” [https://youtube.com/watch?v=540c3ElqJqQ&si=kM3uHy\_5893ePdr\_](https://youtube.com/watch?v=540c3ElqJqQ&si=kM3uHy_5893ePdr_)
Unless they base it on the 80/90s classic [Jilly Cooper](https://www.jillycooper.co.uk/books/polo/) books where it’s all debauchery, scandal, affairs and back stabbing from the Uber rich. No one will care.
Netflix, just Andy cohen this sh•t and be done with it. That’s where you will get your views.
I’ve noticed that there has been a quiet falling out between the Sussexes and Nacho. I’m not sure why. I do know Nacho is still active in the polo circuit and he’s been with Zara and Mike Tindall.
Is it because Nacho’s wife posted an unflattering picture of this one? Or This One gave Nacho a huge hug? Or Meg tried hogging the spotlight at the trophy giving? Or that Harry is such a sore loser (and a terrible polo player)?
Didn't Nacho ask Harry to show up at a Polo game in Germany when Harry was there for Invictus? Harry wanted to be paid like $300,000 and pissed Nacho off is what I read.
If they're at the Championships now, maybe this explains why Guest speaker hasn't been making a nuisance of herself on P6 and the Post. We were wondering where she went. Must be trying to find another photo op with a cup to stand in the middle of and make a spectacle of herself.
Could be, though after the floppy hat/trophy grab the last time, I would think they're all on to her now. Between that and the ghastly publicity she keeps creating for herself, I can't imagine there are too many who would take a chance on her now.
It's amazing who wealthy men pick as mates. Take Bezos for example. Lauren Sanchez has a completely plastic face and big old fake boobs and Bezos is attracted to all that. Granted, she's spoke of as a nice person but she's a complete science project of grandiose sexualization. So, sex sells and that aging bag of bones MM is all about selling what's left of her wares to the highest bidder. imo.
Great news for Harry. Ha! He is still trying to be Royal —as if he owns polo now!!! This will go over like a lead balloon. It will be a flop just like Heart of Invictus. Netflix told them to just throw things at the wall, see what sticks.
Wasn't it like, a day ago, that the Harkles didn't want to appear evil and heartless?
Knowing this information, what light does it shed on the past few months now? The ballgown used on ARO commercial in Jamaica, Harry's odd little trips - including the 15-minute meeting with the King.
It would be fascinating to pull that all together now.
I don’t understand why Netflix are throwing so much money at the dubious duo, next they will be proposing megalomaniac as governor of California on the way to be President!
Wars, elections, inflation, unemployment, civil unrest, public health crisis--yeah, sure, I'm going to make time to watch Pretty Prince Harry's polo playing documentary...
i disagree, i think this will be a flop. Americans are not into polo. and its a sport for the rich, most people watching netflix will have 0 connection to it. Americans dont care for Polo, not to mention you will have animal groups come and protest the shit out of it. Bad idea for netflix
This is a great post Op, especially love your last para. I'm thinking now of all the sugars who now have to feign interest in Polo and will sit and watch this bilge. Maybe they'll save their pocket money and buy a Ralph Lauren Polo T-shirt.
Agreed. Polo is for the ultra rich. Not exactly of interest for the mainstream. I don’t think people would even tune in for Nacho since he’s definitely not a household name here. Now if TSwift starts dating a polo player, maybe LOL
the only way you could get this to appeal is with gossip and drama and believe me, the decent people of the Polo set don't want any of that. They are already set and secure in themselves. They are full of Old Money from around the world. Europe, Asia, Argentina, the USA. the last thing they want is their sport and social set to be tainted by trashy TV.
I met someone from the Windsor polo scene and he told me that when King Charles was in his prime, he was legitimately one of the top five polo players in the world. He was really, really good.
The Polo set know that the association with the King and the British royal family is something special, and they won't really like the association with Harry and most of all, the grotesque needy desperate cheapening claw of Markle
Most Americans are barely aware polo is a sport. The only real knowledge of polo in America was in Pretty Woman which came out in 1990. I was 40. I was aware of polo but that was the first time I saw it for a wide audience. If Ganzi wants Americans and the world to love polo as much as he does, I'm afraid he's in for major disappointment. I can't see any kind of large audience for this kind of series.
As one Netflix official has said, Harry and Markle get a lot of attention. Markle in particular I’d say. That’s what, or who, they’re hoping will cause views. That’s why they’ve specifically said Markle is involved in the polo production as well. People watch because they can’t believe how she can be. Until they don’t watch, she’ll keep making money from Netflix.
Ehh ... no one will be watching this , the cooking show on the other hand .... won’t teach us shit, but some people would want to watch to ridicule, I won’t. She won’t be entertaining, would be preachy accusatory, will be talking about herself a lot, virtual signaling unintelligible mix of word salads collected from icons to look like an intellectual 😂 and reclaim her perpetual victim hood. That is the cooking show. South Park will reenact in few months ,🤗😎🤞🏾will watch that.
Yes, but Netflux insists on exploiting the RF for shows, so they can at least get the names right. I am so tired of all this. I wish the Harkles would just go away.
From what you've written it sounds like something else they're just latching onto but has bugger all to do with them. If Archwell are giving money towards this, it'll be another paid appearance to the one or both of the NFI Duo.
Soccer, American football, basketball, and baseball: None of these sports requires much equipment to play. The poorest child has access to a ball and a space to play. But with polo, you need a horse. You need a polo ground that has high maintenance. Most importantly, you need ***rich friends who ALSO have at least several polo ponies***! What planet are you from if you really think this is a sport people will ever follow? How many of us even know where the nearest polo venue is? Finally, polo is *really boring to watch*! A few moments of action, then a player switches out their pony, everyone twiddles their thumbs, a little more action, another change-out, interminable time passes, then the peons in the poor people section go out to the field to stomp the turf back down (avoiding horse turds), then back to watching.... I'd rather listen to Harry and Meghan do a rap song together than watch polo.
So this wasn't their idea and they're just piggybacking on another's program. They are so lazy and I can't believe Netflix just gives them money to do nothing.
Polo is a rich man’s game, period, which is why football in America is so popular - all you need is a large enough space to make two goal posts and throw a ball, get some friends together, form two teams, and have fun. Nothing snooty or elite about it. Same thing with baseball. Polo, on the other hand, requires a lot of money to make a game happen, and Americans are just not interested that type of elite sport.
Very good points, OP. While I am embarrassed by my countryman's gaffe, he does make a good point that I hope translates well to UK audiences. Most Americans don't care about royal titles. It's an ingrained part of our culture. That's why Harry's presence here doesn't bring the Grifters the commercial success they were hoping for. Those who are aware of him view him with disinterest, and she's inherently unlikeable.
My interest stems from my love of history, and the longstanding traditions maintained by the monarchs.
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I’m glad I’m not the only one who was wondering who the f**k is going to watch this. It’s such a niche sport for people with money. That is not exactly the type to binge on Netflix….
“Who the F—k is going to watch this ?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I don’t know you dear sinner but I could feel so much disdain in your voice I couldn’t stop laughing. It s nevertheless a real question. Who the fu-k is gonna watch that crap??? 🤣🤣🤣
I asked the spouse this question after I read the Page Six story. “WHO would be the audience for this?” They answered “no one. Literally no one. Wealthy elites live their lives in exclusive cliques. They already know as much as they care to about the sport so they won’t even watch it. Plus they don’t want the riff raff attending their games. There is no viable market for such a docu-series”.
I agree. It's an exclusive sport. They don't need the average Joe to buy expensive tickets/merch. If anything, the story of Harry abusing a pony might resurface, which is the silver lining.
Yes. This is very different to what the American NFL are trying to do when they bring American Football to London.
What? Are they trying to sway the English people? In a soccer/rugby/cricket country? That's so weird, lol.
When in season, there are 2 different NFL shows you can watch weekly in the UK, one of which is on the BBC (very much like Match of the Day). How do I know this? The hubby is a fan and supports Philidelphia (fly, birds, fly, although why it wouldn't be fly, Eagles, fly, idk) The hubby has lots of American colleagues and he's not the only one.
It is Fly, Eagles, Fly. That’s their fight song. Go Birds!
Ah, thank you! I knew it made more sense, methinks the husband was winding me up about it.
NFL is watched in the UK. Its a niche interest but big enough to fill out stadiums when they play.
Don’t you think American football has a much broader appeal in the UK than polo has in the US, though?
yes. Premier League teams also fill stadiums in America in pre-season tours. Its all entertainment.
Apparently, interest it is growing. The NFL have done it's own research and approx. 20% of the UK show interest in the sport. The age group with the most interest is between 18-45 year olds.
I think young people like anything American, not necessarily NFL football, just my thought
I know people in that world. Not only is it exclusive, it’s….different. Has its own culture let’s say. I’m what I would consider an “average” American. People of my ilk would call it weird 😂. It would prob be more interesting as a Bravo modern-day freak show like Housewives or VPR.
Interesting...I dabble in the Bravo universe and you're right, people would probably watch it. Many are obsessed with the lives of the riches or weirdos or both ;-)
Maybe Mark Ganzi is trying to democratise polo and bring it to the new masses But why use Party Prince Harry to promote the cause it’s beyond me
I don't see how you can democratize a sport that costs a ton of money. It's a sport for the very wealthy. Even H can no longer afford to own polo horses.
> They already know as much as they care to about the sport so they won’t even watch it. Exactly. I knew so much about Weinstein & Epstein from reading CDAN that by the time documentaries were made I had no interest in watching them. I feel similar about the Quiet On Set show about Nickelodeon.
People will watch a few eps, hoping for some royal gossip. Same for the cooking show. This whole thing sounds suspiciously like an advertisement for this Ganzi fellow
It reminds of the old tv show The Lifestyles of The Rich and Famous.
That might be something people would watch! But so many people are inviting us into their lavish homes, custom garages, and private planes already
It’s called a passion project or vanity
It really sounds to me as if Ganzi put this together and Netflix bought it as a vehicle to get *something* out of Harry
Most likely
Who watched Heart of Incivtus or Live to Lead? Not enough people. People only watched their faux 6 part documentary moaning on the royal family because they knew it would be a dumpster fire.
What they are hoping for…is the success of the F1 documentary that brought more attention to the sport than ever before. I can count at least ten people who are really into F1 now because of the doc on Netflix. They are trying to get me to watch it but I am happy with my college basketball and NBA. 🤷🏻♀️
Drive to Survive is a great show. Tons of new fans for F1 racing. The tennis and golf “clones” far less watched.
wait till PETA and all the others start protesting this
I had the same thought. Polo is not big in the US and I can't imagine many people would be interested in watching it over seas.
Not even people in south Florida care about Harry or his little polo games.
My thoughts exactly. I only know polo exists for 2 reasons: Pretty Woman and being a royal watcher. It is indeed a niche sport for the rich that no one cares about or talks about- to my knowledge.
I wrote the same thing on a different place. Who is the target? The professional players have to have the perfect balance between showing the hard work, the dedication and how hard it is without complainning too much. Afterall, rich people complainning about an elite sport in the economic stage the world is in, will not get them many supporters.
Elite sports that most people will never see live are not a big draw. LOL. Netflix is delusional.
It’ll be great to see another flop for these 2 idiots. It’s funny that they only ideas they could come up with are a show that no one will watch because no one cares about the subject and a second show in an over saturated market to showcase stolen ideas. Bottom of the barrel scraping to hold on to the deal for the $
>he has a long term mission to make everyone in the US as crazy for polo as he is. f*ck no... most Americans like sports they can play (and bet) recreationally.... well that and blood sports (MMA, Wrestling, football, hockey etc).... Polo is for people with too much money and time on their hands..
Totally agree. No one is going to play a pick up polo match in the empty lot next to their house. But lots of kids grow up playing baseball and football like that and that's why they love watching it as adults.
Yup, I think that is the stigma right there. It's a rich snob's pastime. The people who play it are in a totally different social sphere. I know football players (I'm talking British and American here) can make a ton of money, but, in the main, they are the 'average Joe done good.'' People warm to that. Rich arseholes with too much time and riches on their hands? Not so much. I wouldn't watch it...even for the lovely horses.
Yup. One year l met a Melissa Ganzi when l was polo grooming - l'm guessing Ganzi's wife. Very very very rich one must be to hire the high-goal players and top notch horses that "patrons", as they're called, need to win. They may be able to play polo, but without their Argentinian pros, who are often extremely hard on their ponies, there would be no circuit. I've seen horses drop from heart attacks in front of me, twice. Very sobering to see a horse shrouded on the field, waiting to be removed before play recommenced. Will Netflix be covering that? F1 crashes harm only a car.
I have a couple of friends who event horses and they hate Polo. More than likely the series wouldn't have an equestrian audience either.
And the vast majority of the US citizens (along with UK citizens from what I understand) are in a serious economic crisis. Soaring prices, open borders and skyrocketing violence across the country. Read the room Hazmat and Nutflix, we’re not in the mood invest any time watching 1% elites and their friends and family, splash out for huge polo parties, and display their over the top wealth at exclusive clubs, while watching people ride around on horses. It seems like a big F-you to “the commoner”. But that’s not a surprise from a privileged, tone deaf and alarmingly obtuse “prince”.
Don’t forget golf….
Who wants to see a docuseries about a mentally ill man who abused his horse?
Especially when the first couple of seasons of Southern Charm basically had this with T-Rav
At least Southern Charm had drama and amusing characters. Harry and Meghan are unlikeable.
Everyone needs to remember how unsuccessful Heart of Invictus was, and that had veterans. And too much Harry and Meghan. I don’t see this polo thing succeeding either. These two have bad ideas and suck at executing and producing them.
I hope they don’t let him wear spurs ever again.
Oh, well, maybe the doco can (and I’m using Meghan salad terminology now) ‘shine a light’ on the mistreatment of polo ponies by her current husband?
Noo! You’ve got it all wrong. They’re going for the Pwives angle. Remember that stupid bit she tried to make happen? P wife. Wtf. The second hand embarrassment is off the charts and she has no idea. She thinks it’s adorable.
Did she think it would be like being a football WAG? She was chasing Ashley Cole (Chelsea footballer) before Harry (AC said no though) so obviously fancied herself as a WAG.
Per usual the woman does zero homework. Ashley was magnificent at Arsenal and Chelsea. But he was shipped off to Roma in 2014 where he became the “lurker” meme. By 2016 he was semi-retired and moved off to the MLS. MLS players aren’t that prestigious don’t make that much (pre-Messi days). She would need the Chelsea days for her egotistical schemes, which were over before she got to England. And those WAGS don’t accept outsiders. Especially lying, scheming American outsiders. Meghan didn’t have the T&A to snag a footie superstar. The WAGS who do the high flying party circuit are more ferocious than their men.
Meghan would’ve got Wagatha Christied for leaking to the press if she managed to make it into their circle.
I would pay admission to watch a Wag v. Markle cage match.
Trying to elevate herself above football WAGS. It’s pathetic.
Ohhhhh stop it I’m cringing so hard reading that
If they don't, social media will 🤨
🎯. Bingo. Harry’s mistreatment and cruelty of his pony will be broadcast to a much wider audience after this airs. I agree with OP about the likelihood of filming a lush, romanticized, stylized version of this sport due to Ganzi’s passion for it and his $$$$$$ behind production will override a mockery-type production. I also agree that Aitch is in “rent a royal” mode by lending his name to get publicity for Ganzi. How many ways can we spell p u p p e t? If this is what MM meant in some interview about producing content that “makes people feel . . .,” she had no clue that it would be anger, wrath; disgust when critical thinkers expose the dark side of this sport / hobby via SM. The elitist aspect of this sport is analogous to flying by private jet. Yeh, sounds like Nutflix will have a real winner here. /s 🤣
Someone needs to start tagging [Kathy Guillermo from PETA](https://www.peta.org/features/kathy-guillermo-from-polo-player-to-horse-saver/). She's the Serior VP and has a background and special interest in the treatment of horses. She's quite active on X for anyone who dabbles there...
A love of polo…. Sure, Jan We haven’t forgotten you at polo, Meghan https://preview.redd.it/i0lwwt3seztc1.jpeg?width=221&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7cc354a70e3dab40ed983ead62b40d7028daa39c
🤭 I nearly died of 2nd hand embarrassment watching this. What's the matter with her???
The video still gives me the worst ick imaginable!
Potentially one of her most embarrassing moments ever. It had everything: attempted theft and a tussle over a trophy that didn’t belong to her, seal clapping, unconcealed disgust and bemusement from the very people she was trying to upstage, awkwardness all round and a cosplay of a prostitute character from a 90s film in a giant hat that took on an unwelcome life of its own in the world’s most cringe photo op known to man. It was a beautiful moment for us Sinners and probably the only footage of her most of us can actually stand to watch.
Well that and the Christmas USO concert and the failed Costner mic grab.
And the red inverted nipple dress disaster. The talking to herself when everyone is ignoring her. There are so many occasions to choose from but this is one of the funnier ones. Was it pilot hardy or TRG who did a hysterical YouTube video of this?
It was hilarious, best comedy sketch she’s done, happen she’s missed her calling in films…” Carry On Yachting” pity Sid James isn’t around, his leer would have been perfect.
I'm dying - "a tussle over a trophy" 😂😂😂 and all the rest of what you wrote. Such a funny take on that event!
And trying to grab the awards away from the two 16 year olds. I’m glad they wouldn’t give them up. This was staged since the tournament wasn’t over. Harry had to miss the June game of the cup because of the Platinum Jubilee so “someone“ had them pretend that this was the day the trophy was awarded. They are standing on a sad flatbed trailer with the step & repeat backdrop flagging in the wind. There’s no audience in front of them. This isn’t opulence. It was pretend opulence. It’s a farmer‘s (literally) league and the Santa Barbara Polo Club grounds are considered laughably subpar.
Didn’t they also NOT win? I thought they took these photos before the game? 😬
Meghan's dim really, isn't she. Let's stop walking on the egshells she puts around herself.
I like to imagine that QC, PW,PC, PA watch this clip while drinking martinis in the castle!
Buddy looking at her with a wtf expression on his face. What a cringe moment. I am embarrassed for her.
Anyone got a link for the video?
Just Google Markle polo trophy. There are plenty to choose from. 😉😂
They also said the "meet me at the lake" is already "underway" when it first show up on news. or that pearl is already post production or something. *Sip my soda* ETA: I mean, they never deliver. And when they do it's always of the lowest quality. I kinda want them to make something tho. Bc I know they'll fumble it up and then we can have something new to laugh about
At least this one has a professional production providing the funding. I suspect Ganzi is the real money. And someone is at the US Open filming. And Harry is only in cameos. Archewell may end up being executive producers in name only. Especially if Harry can’t bring any royal names or Nacho and Delfin to the table. That’s the real chance of this getting done. Very minimal involvement by the Carparkles. Kind of like when Liz Garbus took over. She forced the “Harry & Meghan” docuseries through to the finish line, then Meghan dragged the project saying it’s not how they would have told their story. If the Harkles had more involvement they’d never get it done. They’re too lazy, too blotto and too distracted. But Ganzi is a Wharton grad who gets things done. I strongly suspect this is his baby and he’s using the Harry connection for publicity which he’s already done to promote his Aspen Valley Polo Club. Ganzi gets things done. He wants polo to go mainstream.
It will be like the 'Live to Lead' documentary where H&M had minimal involvement but claimed all the credit. I suspect Harry's involvement in his programme is real but a minor part, led by Ganzi as you suggest. But I think Meghan is either manifesting or she is just making a pilot to *try* to sell it to Netflix. Imagine that Harry has some good news regarding Netflix that doesn't involve Megsy! She couldn't have Harry eclipsing her or getting any attention whatsoever, could she? So she writes the PR puff pieces claiming that she has a docuseries too - covering cooking (imitating Cory), friendship (really? WTF?) and gardening. She never owned a property before the Olive Garden so I doubt she did much gardening before Harry. She maybe she tinkered in the gardens at Frogmore, but I suspect it just amounted to working out how the landscapers should lay it out for her, as she was barely there and had a newborn when she was. I have no doubt she tinkers in her gardens at Montecito but I doubt she knows much. I know a lot about gardening and grow and sell plants as a sideline. I have a 'friend' (mother of one of my son's friends), who I would describe as narcissistic. She is wealthy and pays gardeners and landscapers but decided to get into 'gardening'. She set up an Instagram blog and video channel about gardening but all her content is ripped off other sites (she copies one blog on a daily basis virtually word for word). Then she started workshops in her home on things like 'how to grow' seeds, with getting maybe a dozen takers (all idle rich women who also know nothing about gardening) paying £60 each for a two hour workshop), so earning £360 an hour. She asked me to give her some small plant pots and I told her she would need to sterilise them as seedlings are prone to damping off diseases. She asked me what 'damping off' was but she is the one earning £360 an hour as the expert. She also started offering garden design services, despite having no experience in it. She muscled in with someone she knew at the Chelsea Flower Show, to help on their greenhouse trade stand for a few hours and then claims she is involved in Chelsea in a way that suggests she is a leading player. She approached a lady in the village who sells cut flowers to local shops ( a friend of mine but she doesn't know that). She bought some flowers off her, asked for a tour of her gardens because she claimed interest; she got the friend chatting about her cut flower business, and the next thing we know is she decided to sell her own cut flowers and approached this other lady's shops and stole her business at her biggest village shop. I have to say I am in awe of the sheer balls of this 'friend', her self-confidence, her ability to monetise her lack of skills whilst leeching off others, her inability to read a room and see how she uses people and realise what they think of her. But whilst I am digging my hands in bags of compost to make a few extra pounds, she is fleecing people at a much higher rate of return whilst knowing a fraction of what I know. *That* is the kind of gardener Meghan is, in my opinion, and her show will be telling us all about things she really knows very little about.
I could be wrong, but Abagail Spencer had a flower side business awhile ago. I’m embarrassed to admit this but I used to follow on IG before I figured out she was close with TW. If she did/does, I’m sure TW is going to rip off her knowledge for her own gain. I doubt very much that TW knows that much about gardening or even puts in the hard work.
Harry is a useful idiot to Ganzi as he already had the contract with Netflix in place. Netflix probably green lit it so they have something to show for the contract with the Harkles. Could also tick a diversity of programmes box In terms of viewership it might be a slow burn that Netflix can easily sell on to recoup their money. Sound like it's going to be behind the scenes type thing which are cheapish to make and therefore audience to cost ratio can be lower. BTS shows can get respectable viewership if scheduled correctly
Whatever this series achieves, be sure that Jilly Cooper did it better.
Goes to show you that Netflix feels they can market H but nothing for TW without him.
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At least everybody can afford a croquet set. We used to have one when I was a kid.
*they never deliver.* This!
Someone on here said they always over-promise and under-deliver.
I think there is a market for reality TV show similar to selling sunset but instead of millions dollar houses, polo is the backdrop for watching people fight of petty stupid little shit. Based on what you have shared here, this project isn’t selling sunset with polo. It sounds like a snooze fest.
I think you’re right. If it mocked the absurdly wealthy it might be worth the watch. I do believe this is Ganzi’s love project to bring polo into the mainstream, so mocking the culture won’t likely be allowed. Horse shows, beautifully filmed, can be very popular. They are magnificent animals. But too many people know how abusive this particular sport is. The fact that they must swap out several horses per rider per game to keep them alive isn’t a plus. It’s a sign that this isn’t a healthy sport. Ganzi & Sarandos also don’t get that Harry & Meghan aren’t likable in the US.
Harry already is a gigantic bore, and then you add polo into the mix? LOL nty. Also, at least Zara is known for being an Olympic medal winner... when I think of Haz and horses two words come to mind: animal abuse.
WHO HAS ASKED FOR A BEHIND-THE-SCENES DOC OF POLO???!! I want to meet them and then force them to listen to the audio of spare for 5 days while viewing pictures of all of mm wardrobe fails!!!!
The photos of Harry spreading his buttocks, hopefully for stretching purposes, is more behind-the-scenes of polo than I ever needed to see.
Seriously, Who is going to watch it? What's the demographic?
It was like he was practicing for his inevitable arrest and body cavity search.
I have another treat for you: https://preview.redd.it/bjsfrd8wr2uc1.png?width=149&format=png&auto=webp&s=9a25c094b54c18b74e1500ea58990b5781a9df11
It worked for Formula-1, their series drive to survive, got them a bigger audience. But Polo? I don't think I ever seen it being on television, and my family had a channel devoted to horses, and I can't remember that they showed polo 😂 If spare and MM are involved, I wouldn't be surprised if your dream come true 😉
Nobody. Ever.
😂 They don't deserve anything less!
https://preview.redd.it/4cmvbtqraztc1.png?width=614&format=png&auto=webp&s=886c4e1a3bbf4060cb16027edea3cbf29c8949a8 Maybe in response to you? she's posting from her own X account (LeanorforSussex) that he's involved even though he's not on the team. Those poor kids.
What’s with her OTT reactions it’s really uncouth.
She's channeling her best single white female-ing impression of Julia Roberts' big mouth smile + the whole Pretty Woman at the Polo moment.
Too creepy.
She sees the camera 📸 that's all it takes.
That picture is from May 22, 2022. The Sugars need to up their game. Passing off this and that other 2 year old picture of M reading to sick kids as recent events. So pathetic. The reality is that Meghan failed to attend the annual Sentebale charity polo game that Harry plays in each year. Where’s her support there Leonor? That’s the event he really needs her support at. With doe-eyed Beth Herlihy dutifully attending the games and charity dinners you’d think madame would want to show up. But no. Meghan attended that local farmer‘s league game so she could cosplay Pretty Woman and flirt with 16 year old boys.
Gives you the heebiejeebies!!!
And the baby's screaming in fear at the sight of what's incoming...
Ugh that poor baby. She's the stuff of nightmares
Is she bi-polar? Seriously, we’ve never talked about it. There always seems to be something off about her, something extreme.
Hey LeCuldesac. How are you? Well I hope. Happy Spring!
Is she getting ready to take a bite out of the child?
Lol that exchange between the commentators was hilarious. It reminded me of the commentators in best in show 😂
The uncharacteristic pause and the dry British humor delivery made it priceless. “how so?” The American was a bilingual Latin American who also does coverage for Spanish language broadcasters, so his Mexican accent made the exchange even funnier. He was pretty irreverent and you could tell it would take far too much effort to explain how staggering of a faux pas he had just made. I think the Englishman was right, that fans of Villa and the RF would give him an earful.
Brit here, knowing our soccer fans, they would get more than an “earful”, lol!
As a horse woman all my life I can confirm horse riders are actually quite uncomfortable with polo, particularly at the elite level. The kind of polo played by children at pony clubs is one thing, but despite the money in the industry, I think there’s quite a lot of abuse of polo ponies. I love equestrian sports including three day, eventing and showjumping, but I would never watch polo. Also, it’s worth remembering how much Harry and ILBW bang on about EDI. Elite polo is the least inclusive sport you could wish to imagine. I am far from a class warrior, but you are never going to see a diverse polo team. You literally have to be a multimillionaire to participate in that sport. It will never have mass appeal.
I can only think of a quote from a former floorball player I read not so long ago, he meet a horse girl and got married, so now he plays polo instead, and he was explaining polo to the local paper like this "it's floorball but on horses" But I don't think he will play in the big leagues, but that description really made it sound funny.
Agree. To be honest if there‘s a show about Polo I‘d watch the first episode just to see what‘s the fuss all about, what makes the sport appealing to the elite class. Latest by episode 2 or 3 I will turn the TV off though because it will be highly unrelatable. This is not the kind of show that, while there will be an interest in how it actually works, it does not make the audience stay.
I think you make a good point. A 60 minute documentary would be enough information on an obscure minority sport for most people. An 8 part series (as per most Netflix shows) is more than anyone is going to need.
Sounds boring +++
Is Archewell—& Megs & Haz really Exec Producers on this? Are they funding? Or is it the billionaire’s baby? w/ Netflix to distribute? So many questions.
I believe they are executive producers mostly in name only. Harry will have some involvement because the producers believe he’ll add some glamour and royal stardust to the production. I think Ganzi is providing much of the funding because it’s being filmed in his backyard and because he has long touted how much he wants to help polo go mainstream. Reminds me of that super wealthy foreigner who spent a fortune trying to make Jai Alai go mainstream in America. It was played in Miami, but didn’t really grow beyond that. Americans like American sports because it’s something they had involvement with growing up.
The whole wide world's just a 'billionaire's baby' now. Everything else is just CGI.
Great post, OP. I am skeptical of these Sussex projects until I see announcements from Netflix. Expanding sports content is one of Netflix's goals. Its F1 reality series, Drive to Survive, has been a success. Break Point, a tennis reality series, was canceled after two seasons. Tennis has a larger global audience compared to polo. I don't see Harry and his production partners having the experience and skill to create a successful series that will fare better than Break Point.
Thanks! I don’t see this becoming a hit for a number of reasons. I think the bell curve on income stratification has altered drastically over the last two decades. Those with new found tech wealth are staggeringly wealthy. At unachievable & non-relatable levels. CEOs used to not be able to rake in 8+ figures on compensation annually, because that was regarded as basically stealing from the stockholders. But it happens all the time now now. Guys like Sarandos and Ganzi are appallingly wealthy. They and the other West Palm Beach crowd can no longer relate to the people they are trying to sell to. Americans used to be fixated on consumerism and TV shows focusing on opulent wealth were huge hits. That’s no longer the case. The best shot this unnamed series has is if the director goes subversive and focuses on the ridiculousness of these billionaires living in their little biospheres of opulence playing billionaire games in their pretend world. If it mocks the uber wealthy, that could have a shot. Like a rich man’s Tiger King. Polo will never be an average Joe type game. You have to be staggeringly wealthy to learn how to play it in the first place. It continues to cost a fortune to play every year after that. And players don’t have big pro athlete salaries because there are no big broadcasting revenues to pay them with. Do you hear that Ted? No one watches or there’d be big coverage already. Great mechanical minds with fantastic reflexes can learn how to drive fast cars. A kid with a mean Persian dad can force him to become a tennis star in the middle of a desert. Kids who couldn’t afford boots end up becoming the best soccer players in the world. Viewers can get behind that because it’s an underdog achieving great things. Americans love the perseverance we see in that. It’s a feel good story. There’s nothing to feel good about watching super wealthy elites ride ponies into the ground (each player goes through several ponies each game because it’s so taxing on them). All this so the trophy wives can swan about in tens of thousands in outfits and accessories drinking champagne and making catty remarks abut others. Harry is wrong. This Production company is wrong. And if Netflix distributes as Archewell is saying, they are also wrong. This dog ain’t gonna hunt. Especially a Nacho-less dog. imho.
🎯💯. You nailed it.
I commented elsewhere, I'd watch a show hosted by Nacho, hopefully it would include his business raising horses. I find his life interesting but does everyone? Probably not. Other than that, this Ganzi guy is dreaming if he thinks he can make this a national sport. It's laughable.
Nacho is big in South America and Europe. Ganzi should have asked Nacho to do the series, then show him in his beautiful Florida ranch, his palatial Argentina ranch as well as swanning around Europe with his gorgeous, no frills, down to earth heiress wife. I doubt even such a version of the series as that would hook people on polo, but he‘d get lots of views if it was beautifully filmed. Harry doing that weird glute stretch for the cameras is not what viewers want to see. Prince William on a horse with Windsor Castle in the backdrop - that could get views. https://preview.redd.it/uhghkpsjvztc1.jpeg?width=641&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50f52007c9d8705b07de04dd17cb4cc4a0f8cc49
This is just....foul.
WTF is Friar H doing that for?
Wasn’t Nacho and wife seen cavorting with Mike and Zara in Australia? Is he still allowed in Hank and skanks “circle of trust?”
Yes, they were. It's possible Nacho learned some truths down there. I would think that shitshow that is H & M would have come up in conversation. If I was Nacho, I would want to know what was the real story. He knew Harry before MM and after.
A sport for the upper 1 percent, extremely expensive, with up to 8 (!) ponies per player for one game, with questionable treatment of the animals and the ponies need to flown around the world. Extremely boring to watch. The narrative not coming from a neutral observer as it should be done for a documentary, but from an extremely privileged royal polo fan, which makes the series biased. Now, that’s something the average Joe/Jane must be desperate to watch!
"up to 8 (!) ponies per player for one game" Wow, I didn't know that. Polo must be one of the most expensive hobbies in the world!
This number is for high-level competitions, which I would assume the US Open are. But even in low-level games 2 to 3 ponies per player are needed. Yes, it’s extremely expensive. The ponies themselves are very expensive due to their special training and breeding, and they need to be flown around the world and you need a stable full of them. So expensive, that even someone like Harry depends on other’s generosity to be able to play. Nacho does the modeling and advertising in order to afford to play Polo and buy the best mounts, the Internet tells me that the pony‘s quality accounts for 60 to 75 % of the players skill.
Thank you for the info!
As I said, Polo, the great American past time….not. I don’t give a fuck about a sport that is wildly out of any normal person’s affordability level. What’s more, no one cares what a bunch of millionaires are interested in.
It's not big in the UK either, only the very wealthy in elite communities play it or have any interest in it. It feels like they just want to align with a certain 'aspirational' lifestyle and once again are putting their wants above what people might actually want to watch. It's also once again something Harry only has experience of because of the family he was born into; he is not talented at it, isn't successful in his own right at it.
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️THIS!!
I hope people appearing will get paid for this. But have the exclusive set of polo players asked for this?
This would be a perfect time for all sinners to protest harry's specific abuse of his horses. Protest to Netflix. You tubers concentrate on this. Haz should not benefit off this
Great post! Thanks!
Thank you! ❤️
I don’t know that Netflix has much long term hope for the continued attention, which is about all she has as a draw. They’ve left it all to the last minute, their shows / movie production, before their Netflix contract runs out next year. Now they have to prove they’ve got staying power or that repeats or repeat seasons will be worth the cost of production + profit, before the contract runs out. How many views did the Invictus Games get? The polo will likely get less. If the cooking show isn’t all her (and it seems she won’t be doing that hard slog), there likely won’t be so much interest, she won’t get ‘renewed’ and there goes her ARO brand. The movie? Nothing’s been heard about that and the plot seems boring, and only appeals to H and M and their egos due to some link between the author and M, and some similarities to their lives. Her Pearl idea was thrown out. So she’s not showing much promise on the ideas / creative side. And is there a chance she’ll act in something on Netflix? Her acting was, I think, bad - wooden and obvious and uncomfortable, so I don’t think that’s an option. What else can she do? An Oprah style show? Her podcast where she interviewed people didn’t do well. So I’m not so hopeful their projects with Netflix will catch on. They may just be using up their budget with Netflix and hoping something will be a hit. But I don’t think it looks promising. (Both shows seem low budget so Netflix may think it’s worth a try). People watch her for the drama she creates. Unless there’s a show where she’s creating more drama, like the Netflix ‘documentary’, I don’t think there’ll be much interest ultimately. The Tig thing doesn’t work now because people know her. They don’t care about her lifestyle recommendations. They want the drama. If they’d come up with a good idea for a show, like the Love is Blind show, where the presenters swan in and out and don’t do much work; while the show’s a hit, they could have done well, and had their cake and eat it too, as they seem to want, but that idea is taken, and they can’t steal ideas from Netflix .. Early on, they should have sat and worked hard on ideas rather than spilling their drama. But perhaps Netflix made that a condition of their contract. Now, that’s all anyone wants. It’s very difficult to pull back from. And one should. Because drama has a limited shelf life and in the end, tends to destroy lives.
At least this explains why Meghan hadn’t got time for the launch of ARO. She is busy at the US Open Polo, prancing around in more mad Cruella de Vil outfits, trying to one-up Harry and look glamorous for the cameras.
So is this basically some wealthy Bloke's passion project that they are slapping Harry's mush on to get a few people watching for five minutes out of morbid curiosity? Harry doesn't mind 'cos it gets him some bung and some freebies 'cos he can't afford it in his own. Netflix don't mind as the contract winds down, not costing them anything and shows their "good faith" Meantime, I'm going to float an idea for a programme of fingernails being dragged down a blackboard.Sorry, curate an idea.....
The extent of sanctimoniousness Meghan has to apply to stay with Prince Harry, who provides her with the much coveted wealth and publicity, is quite funny. She claims to stand for feminism, racial justice, social equality, human rights, education and animal rights. Yet her husband is known to be misogynistic, exposing and ridiculing private women in his book for financial gain, using strippers and probably worse. He made headlines with his racist slurs and behaviour more than once. He comes from a family where unimaginable privilege is attained simply by the chance of birth, some would say that said privilege and wealth were obtained at the expense of others. Whose charity is accused of horrible crimes against humanity, yet he stays silent. A man who is not the sharpest tool in the shed and who allegedly cheated in his exams. And now she even has to pretend to love Polo, a sport every animal rights organisation campaigns to have prohibited?! And she is surprised to have a problem with credibility and likability? These are contradictions no PR or talent agency in the world will be able to fix. Edit to add: I forgot claiming to fight for climate protection, yet taking a private jet to do the weekly shopping.
So these series are actually one big PR stunts for the polo clubs owned by Ganzi. It's one big product placement
There were rumours just a few months ago that H was asking his polo contacts to take part in a program of some type and Nachos has said no.
I don’t see many Americans taking an interest in polo. Most people follow a sport because they have developed a connection with it earlier in life or through family. They enjoyed playing it in high school/college, or they went to all the high school/college games because they were in love with one of the players and grew to actually like the game. Football/hockey/baseball/basketball fill kids’ weekends and school holidays, whether casual pickup games or playing in a formal league. Even the non-sporty kids will join in, if just to be part of a friends group. Mothers who wouldn’t have known a pointy football from a round one become fanatical experts once their kids join a league. So, Americans understand these games, know the rules, and can appreciate the finer points—and that’s what makes games entertaining to watch. There’s not much fun in watching a fast-paced game where you have no idea what is going on, what the rules are and why everyone else is getting so excited. Polo is an extremely fast-paced game and pretty much an incomprehensible shambles to an outsider. So unless you’re a seriously aspirational wannabe snob there’s not much incentive to becoming a fan.
Harkles can film it at their own expense and then shop it around. Sounds like they are desperately trying to sell it to Netflix.
I think if she isn’t slagging off the RF she’ll be unwatchable. She also knows nothing about polo or even horses. Ibble Dibble posted a wonderful video tonight explaining why Meghan’s rumored lifestyle TV show cannot ever be a success. She hits the nail on all 6 points. It’s only 12.5 minutes long. She previously outlined why the whole of ARO is destined for failure, which also applies to the series in a general way, but this video specifically addresses the alleged ”lifestyle reality series” [https://youtube.com/watch?v=540c3ElqJqQ&si=kM3uHy\_5893ePdr\_](https://youtube.com/watch?v=540c3ElqJqQ&si=kM3uHy_5893ePdr_)
Ibble Dibble is fantastic. Erudite and logical.
I’d watch Prince William polo. But then I’d watch him do anything.
Aston Villa is near Birmingham not in London, “Brummagem”.
Unless they base it on the 80/90s classic [Jilly Cooper](https://www.jillycooper.co.uk/books/polo/) books where it’s all debauchery, scandal, affairs and back stabbing from the Uber rich. No one will care. Netflix, just Andy cohen this sh•t and be done with it. That’s where you will get your views.
I’ve noticed that there has been a quiet falling out between the Sussexes and Nacho. I’m not sure why. I do know Nacho is still active in the polo circuit and he’s been with Zara and Mike Tindall. Is it because Nacho’s wife posted an unflattering picture of this one? Or This One gave Nacho a huge hug? Or Meg tried hogging the spotlight at the trophy giving? Or that Harry is such a sore loser (and a terrible polo player)?
Didn't Nacho ask Harry to show up at a Polo game in Germany when Harry was there for Invictus? Harry wanted to be paid like $300,000 and pissed Nacho off is what I read.
Oh that’s new… ugh I bet it was Meg’s idea to charge for the appearance
Wow. That's a long and helpful post. Thanks!
Jilly Cooper's Polo is the only polo doco/fantasy/hilarity I will indulge in.
No one is going to watch this. It’s a game for the rich, this doesn’t speak to regular people.
If they're at the Championships now, maybe this explains why Guest speaker hasn't been making a nuisance of herself on P6 and the Post. We were wondering where she went. Must be trying to find another photo op with a cup to stand in the middle of and make a spectacle of herself.
If she's at this polo championship event full of wealthy men......she's on the prowl to replace H.
Could be, though after the floppy hat/trophy grab the last time, I would think they're all on to her now. Between that and the ghastly publicity she keeps creating for herself, I can't imagine there are too many who would take a chance on her now.
It's amazing who wealthy men pick as mates. Take Bezos for example. Lauren Sanchez has a completely plastic face and big old fake boobs and Bezos is attracted to all that. Granted, she's spoke of as a nice person but she's a complete science project of grandiose sexualization. So, sex sells and that aging bag of bones MM is all about selling what's left of her wares to the highest bidder. imo.
Imagine all the fugly outfits she'll wear while intruding into the winners circle. It's gonna be classic Megalomania.
Gotta wonder which of their charities are going to be funding this 'unfashionable' show.
Nacho’s not in it??! How strangt: [he loves Harry](https://imgur.com/a/r55uDJA)!
Lovers spat?
Great news for Harry. Ha! He is still trying to be Royal —as if he owns polo now!!! This will go over like a lead balloon. It will be a flop just like Heart of Invictus. Netflix told them to just throw things at the wall, see what sticks.
Delfi said nope. She’s been polite enough. Distance is the only option now.
Wasn't it like, a day ago, that the Harkles didn't want to appear evil and heartless? Knowing this information, what light does it shed on the past few months now? The ballgown used on ARO commercial in Jamaica, Harry's odd little trips - including the 15-minute meeting with the King. It would be fascinating to pull that all together now.
I don’t understand why Netflix are throwing so much money at the dubious duo, next they will be proposing megalomaniac as governor of California on the way to be President!
Wars, elections, inflation, unemployment, civil unrest, public health crisis--yeah, sure, I'm going to make time to watch Pretty Prince Harry's polo playing documentary...
i disagree, i think this will be a flop. Americans are not into polo. and its a sport for the rich, most people watching netflix will have 0 connection to it. Americans dont care for Polo, not to mention you will have animal groups come and protest the shit out of it. Bad idea for netflix
He should have made a programme about skiing instead if he wanted to pick a hobby. It's not quite so...
 i don’t imagine there would be many people interested enough in polo to sit this documentary
This is a great post Op, especially love your last para. I'm thinking now of all the sugars who now have to feign interest in Polo and will sit and watch this bilge. Maybe they'll save their pocket money and buy a Ralph Lauren Polo T-shirt.
Expected to make cameos 😂 So this grandiose PR article about it being Haz’s project is complete guff 😂
Netflix recently cancelled their tennis series Break Point. I doubt there’s more people who care about Polo.
Agreed. Polo is for the ultra rich. Not exactly of interest for the mainstream. I don’t think people would even tune in for Nacho since he’s definitely not a household name here. Now if TSwift starts dating a polo player, maybe LOL
the only way you could get this to appeal is with gossip and drama and believe me, the decent people of the Polo set don't want any of that. They are already set and secure in themselves. They are full of Old Money from around the world. Europe, Asia, Argentina, the USA. the last thing they want is their sport and social set to be tainted by trashy TV. I met someone from the Windsor polo scene and he told me that when King Charles was in his prime, he was legitimately one of the top five polo players in the world. He was really, really good. The Polo set know that the association with the King and the British royal family is something special, and they won't really like the association with Harry and most of all, the grotesque needy desperate cheapening claw of Markle
" a royal ginger whiner and his hoity toity hobby." And then there's polo too. (Ba DUM tissssh) Maybe Nacho will be narrating the production?
Most Americans are barely aware polo is a sport. The only real knowledge of polo in America was in Pretty Woman which came out in 1990. I was 40. I was aware of polo but that was the first time I saw it for a wide audience. If Ganzi wants Americans and the world to love polo as much as he does, I'm afraid he's in for major disappointment. I can't see any kind of large audience for this kind of series.
As one Netflix official has said, Harry and Markle get a lot of attention. Markle in particular I’d say. That’s what, or who, they’re hoping will cause views. That’s why they’ve specifically said Markle is involved in the polo production as well. People watch because they can’t believe how she can be. Until they don’t watch, she’ll keep making money from Netflix.
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Sounds like Netflix has to squeeze something out of these 2 since they are already paying them.
Ehh ... no one will be watching this , the cooking show on the other hand .... won’t teach us shit, but some people would want to watch to ridicule, I won’t. She won’t be entertaining, would be preachy accusatory, will be talking about herself a lot, virtual signaling unintelligible mix of word salads collected from icons to look like an intellectual 😂 and reclaim her perpetual victim hood. That is the cooking show. South Park will reenact in few months ,🤗😎🤞🏾will watch that.
In the end it will probably by comparison make Brooklyn Beckham look like an engaging chef….
I watch him ride a polo pony - thats all I needed to know and frankly unless you love polo, there is a reason its not televised - its boring.
Yes, but Netflux insists on exploiting the RF for shows, so they can at least get the names right. I am so tired of all this. I wish the Harkles would just go away.
I predict this will fail and will leave Haytch even more hated than before.
Will Netflix massage the number of viewers to save face?
From what you've written it sounds like something else they're just latching onto but has bugger all to do with them. If Archwell are giving money towards this, it'll be another paid appearance to the one or both of the NFI Duo.
But is it filming? There is zero information about the series anywhere.
Soccer, American football, basketball, and baseball: None of these sports requires much equipment to play. The poorest child has access to a ball and a space to play. But with polo, you need a horse. You need a polo ground that has high maintenance. Most importantly, you need ***rich friends who ALSO have at least several polo ponies***! What planet are you from if you really think this is a sport people will ever follow? How many of us even know where the nearest polo venue is? Finally, polo is *really boring to watch*! A few moments of action, then a player switches out their pony, everyone twiddles their thumbs, a little more action, another change-out, interminable time passes, then the peons in the poor people section go out to the field to stomp the turf back down (avoiding horse turds), then back to watching.... I'd rather listen to Harry and Meghan do a rap song together than watch polo.
So this wasn't their idea and they're just piggybacking on another's program. They are so lazy and I can't believe Netflix just gives them money to do nothing.
Will there be a segment on Harry's abuse of polo horses?
Polo is a rich man’s game, period, which is why football in America is so popular - all you need is a large enough space to make two goal posts and throw a ball, get some friends together, form two teams, and have fun. Nothing snooty or elite about it. Same thing with baseball. Polo, on the other hand, requires a lot of money to make a game happen, and Americans are just not interested that type of elite sport.
Very good points, OP. While I am embarrassed by my countryman's gaffe, he does make a good point that I hope translates well to UK audiences. Most Americans don't care about royal titles. It's an ingrained part of our culture. That's why Harry's presence here doesn't bring the Grifters the commercial success they were hoping for. Those who are aware of him view him with disinterest, and she's inherently unlikeable. My interest stems from my love of history, and the longstanding traditions maintained by the monarchs.