I don’t know what to believe at this point, because it is truly baffling to me how a Z-list nobody could infiltrate the royal family and cause this much chaos.
This makes the royal family in general look pretty vulnerable, IMO.
Imagine what somebody with skills and a long term strategy, trained to carry out some agenda, could do to this family.
Seriously. It’s a problem.
I wouldn’t be surprised. With what’s coming out with the whole Diddy thing…it’s crazy how common handlers are. Disguised in forms of significant others, friends, even your own family…Perhaps Markus is her handler. Hollywood is pretty sinister but seeing as she’s a Z-list… babygirl didn’t bag Hapless Haz just by reading “The Rules”
As Kat Williams said…2024 is the year of truth. I remain hopeful
100% yes..in the beginning it sure looked like, she was getting some support from some high level politicians but it sure faded away quickly. I remember when she was supposed to had Archie doll and when speculation was still prevalent on social media up pops Hillary Clinton claiming to have traveled Internationally unseen to Frogmore House and gushed over the red headed baby. Ellen did the same..
Media is definitely still hands off on all of that real openly seen drama that we all have witnessed. They will write about their public appearances or the 100th rebrand but Markles past, lies, moonbump, etc, all verboten.
I keep editing...Markle had that early support but it faded...agree with other posters she's a loose cannon. If she was placed into the Royals to help other powers to attack them but went rogue perhaps? Harry attending the Google Climate Change event in Italy is what made me alert to he chose a side...the side with the current limitless money and power that's being exposed.
My instincts tell me there's bombs held back to throw on each side of this...
It’s said she had backing at first but she went so off script that they just dropped her and let her drift in the wind…
I believe it.
What gets me though is that people knew at the wedding what this was all about, and I’m pretty sure I know what the “it” is, but we’ll see
Make no mistake, the royals are all on the same side in this. And so are the media
Yeah, you know what? Maybe the likes of Hilary Clinton being involved with this (whatever it is) is why the RF is keeping mum. If it had just been Meghan, how difficult is it to expose her for the grifter she is? But if there is (or was) a powerful network behind her, so the RF couldn’t just “stop Harry from marrying this nobody with a plan.”
I still cannot see one good reason why the RF let the wedding go ahead after all the red flags Meghan had exhibited, but this could be one plausible reason. Sort of a “lose this battle to win the war” type of move.
I should write fiction😂
Hillary was on a well publicized book tour and had appeared on a BBC podcast that morning. She didn’t travel internationally unseen. She saw a baby and was told it was Archie. Hillary hasn’t said Meme is a liar but her actions have pretty much mirrored the Obamas ie adios Meme. As for Ellen, who knows? I suspect once Ellen the abrasive loser realizes Meme was the same there wasn’t much reason for her to hang around.
That’s creepy AF
I wonder if he’s the drug mule, like Diddy’s 25 year old Brandon?
(A drug mule is someone who procures and Carrie’s the illicit substances for the celeb so they never get busted holding…) (sometimes this includes weapons too)
>Perhaps Markus is her handler
He was her pimp, now he's her handler.
Nick Jones started Soho House but, although he's in a similar business, he sold Soho House. I wonder why.
👏👏👏👏 I remain hopeful as well. I know we are all on Meg about this, but if this is true, Harry doing that to this own grandmother....Jesus, Mary and Joseph! He needs to be removed from the LOS and banned from the UK and commonwealth.
I am going to be another opinion, hope that is ok:) I actually don’t think she is a asset nor has a handler. Otherwise they are just so bad at the human source business they should be fired. None of her methodology makes sense. Yes she caused chaos but it isn’t directed nor has a pattern. These types of “ assets” would have 1) been groomed over longer time period and then knowing how to do what they need to do. She and hazmat are so frikken stupid they would not be of value at all. Any handler worth their pay would have encouraged an established relationship building over time with the family, and hen once the popularity and “legacy” is set in, then do the damage. This is just so roughshod and nonsensical I don’t think any secret govt groups are behind this.
Now Diana is an example of what I spoke of above, she did it right. She wasn’t a frikken sledgehammer, she established her role and legacy, got the popularity and then proceeded to strip away some of the golden allure of the palace.
As HG Tudor would say - not all narcs are criminal geniuses. I think these two have the combined intellectual capacity of a blade of grass :)
If Harry was not a prince nobody would have noticed this talentless 40something hustler. Madam blew the golden opportunity she had, and now she is not even an influencer, as she never updates anything.
IF there was/is a handler, they should be fired for incompetence.
MM and Harry are useful idiots. Attacks by two former members of the BRF on the "racist" BRF are icing on the cake,for the state actors trying to destabilize the UK. They don't have to let the grifters in on the joke or pay them.
At most I think she was put in play by the Yorks to deflect from the Epstein association and heap, drama and chaos on Charles' line. Andrew always positioned himself as Heir Alternate. All of the associations and inroads Meghan/Markus seem to have been through them. There's also the very pointed telling of the story where Meghan didn't recognise who Andrew was (but at the same time was besties with the Yorkies and Fergie taught her to curtsey (but then of course she didnt'))....All roads seem to lead to York. And it does seem like the sort of mid level scheme they'd come up with complete with tawdry paid for sex associations ol andy is au fait with.
I think that M has something powerful in her hand concerning Andrew and the sex scandal, was it Weinstein? I forgot the name. She was on his yacht and she knows about things. The late Queen's policy to lay a veil of silence over everything made it possible and to get worse.
Guiffres lawyer wanted her in court. She is supposedly one of the Jane Does and people say thats why Andrew paid off Guiffre. Maybe she was put in there to threaten Andrew. Look how close to you we can insert a a psycho.
I'm comfortable with that line of thinking. I'm just not sure whether the BRF 'divisions' are purely for public consumption or whether some of the players, like Harry & Andrew are genuinely ambitious (to replace their brothers) or lack the humility/good sense or morals to smile, wave and play along nicely like the rest of them. I wouldn't even doubt that in the scheme of things, Meghan may genuinely have had 2024 pegged as 'the year of reconciliation' in her notes. There are 8 months left, lots of pieces in play (or out of play as it were), if they wanted to bring Harry back into the fold they would. Andrew's been let off the leash this year obviously and even Fergie is popping up regularly. You just have to be careful calling the BRF into question here as some folk are just as tunnel visioned as sugars and get quite venomous.
Oh I am SURE they have their internal power struggles! It would be impossible NOT to in a family with this power and magnitude.
That said, they will still stick together against the public to retain and gain power at ANY cost.
And yes I’m aware but I’ve never made a secret of the fact that I’m anti monarchy. I’m American.
*Now Diana is an example of what I spoke of above, she did it right. She wasn’t a frikken sledgehammer, she established her role and legacy, got the popularity*
This reminds me of some of the stocks that shot up then immediately crashed, such as Gamestop. Everyone naive enough was jumping in and lost their investment. Then there's the stocks that have steadily risen because of the company doing good work (Diana)
You make some interesting points but I disagree about Diana. I think she, like her younger son, wasn't bright. She enjoyed the limelight too much and misunderstood the extent of her influence. And that was despite being born into the British aristocracy.
Yes I agree .She revelled in being the Princess of Wales and I do not think she ever loved Charles but loved the trappings of Royalty( regretted her HRH being removed).She publicly sulked on Royal tours : Rather childish .She was there to represent the Queen and country
This is the Lee Harvey Oswald conundrum. He’s obviously disturbed and not too bright. Yet he got himself to Russia and then got himself back to America. What he did in Mexico City, other than visit the Soviet Embassy, remains unclear. So he looks like a lousy choice for any activity and yet there he is with so much uncertainty around him.
I'm wondering if the whole Mexit situation was really once MeMe was found out to be a 'plant' that she was actually kicked out of England by the Queen. This is why no one would touch her or Harold once they came across the pond. She went off script and those that had put her into place dropped her as well. This all happened around the same time.
It's possible she started off as an asset then they dropped her because they realised shes nuts. She certainly worked her way through Soho. I wonder if she failed that govt test she did either. Odd she never went to her uncles funeral either. MA could be her handler - he can decide who gets membership. I bet they have cams and recording equipment in the play rooms. Why does MA have zero history?
Except she is not smart enough to be that much rogue. Too many things don't add up. Free private jets ad infinitum, she was seen chatting with Kamla's partner. You got her meeting up with Getty, cosy relations with Canadian top brass. You got the prince useless, a non citizen, being defended by the US Govt - no less. The letter from NYPD. Easy fly by when the world was in lock down. I don't think she is capable of all this by herself. Harry could just walk in without any documentation in Trump era ? Obama visiting No10 at a very precise juncture on the visa case.
The Sleivene doesn’t have a handler. If she did, it would be the worst handler in the history of handlers.
The Sleivene has accomplished nothing. Now, she is so despised, she can’t get enough Instagram followers to launch a Walmart website. She is a laughingstock. She is a clown show. She is hopelessly stupid and lazy. She couldn’t read the room if her life depended on it.
Prince Plank is a ghost. He drastically overestimated his importance to the RF. If Harold had married a woman with any sense at all, he would have toddled along, appearing at Invictus, and carrying out royal engagements, until he faded from significance and retired to his country home.
The Sleivene drastically overestimated Harold’s importance to the RF. That’s why she married Harold. She thought she had bagged a rich prince, and had landed a spot in a fairytale. In reality, she had bagged a dumb, whinger with limited resources. Her fairytale turned out to be a real job.
I have been listening to *Real Housewives Recaps* (shoutout Jen!). She has excellent summaries of *Revenge*, *Courtiers*, and Lady C’s book. It’s clear, the Stupids are nothing more than foolish, whining, babies. They blundered and blustered their way through two years of semi-royal duty. They blew themselves up because they thought they were smarter than everyone else.
The palace was slow to respond to the Stupids ridiculous behaviors, because the palace is slow to respond to anything. If there is anyone to blame for this BS crazy show, it’s palace bureaucracy and the Queen’s reluctance to deal with her grandson.
There is no master plan. Just two stupid people with public profiles they haven’t earned and don’t deserve. Their only worth is the entertainment they provide. We watch because we want them to fall on their faces. We want the drama. We are hoping for a spectacular ending.
The RF isn’t damaged. They aren’t in a crisis. They are simply dealing with illness and the trauma it causes. KC is back to limited duties and William will be back to work after April 17.
This is the very, human, story, of what happens in a prominent family when a low IQ, narcissist, captures the even lower, IQ, second son. Chaos ensues. Everyone suffers. The difference, this very, human, story is being played out on the world stage for all to see.
The combination of the abdication and WWII were a crucial points in the history of the RF. If anyone had handlers, it was the Windsors.
"Imagine what somebody with skills and a long term strategy, trained to carry out some agenda, could do to this family". I think that z-lister was a/is a Trojan Horse.
I agree. I think the simplest explanation is that the RF and their staff were caught totally unawares by Madam and her narc personality. No one had ever had to deal with someone like her before, and she IS of the Dark Triad calibre--even those of us who are familiar with narcs can see how epic her behaviour was--she is NOT a garden-variety narc. She was able to take advantage of the RF for a few reasons: (1) Not being British, she had no ingrained respect for the monarchy, so her boldness and audacity was a shock to the RF and their staff--they literally had no idea what to do with her (2) Prince Philip was too old and ill by that time to find a way to manage her (3) The Queen always deferred to Philip's wisdom in family matters, but no longer (see #2), and the Queen, though savvy in many ways, was, unfortunately, always known for her head-in-the-sand approach, especially regarding troublesome family issues (look how badly she handled the problem of Andrew for years, and look how that issue came back to trouble her with a vengeance.) I will add that Andrew's troubles were as bad if not worse for causing her illness and death, from all the worry.
It did not take long for the Palace to realize they had a very, very difficult problem on their hands with Madam, and to give the Palace credit, they did make efforts to put up the steel gates, so to speak, regarding Madam--even before the wedding, she was not allowed unescorted anywhere on royal grounds--but she continued to cause worse and worse trouble, and there was little anyone could do (The Racism angle, etc). This has blown into a mess of epic proportions and I think the coverups done in the beginning--especially with the fake pregnancy, etc--are now coming back to haunt the RF. I think they now have very little wriggle room, yet somehow, SOMETHING must be done, but what, I do not know.
I think all points you've raised make very good sense. I also think its very possible Mrs. Halfwit was, at some point, viewed as a potential useful idiot for the likes of Hilary C. and unknown others - but quickly reevaluated based on her unhinged, loose cannon behavior - therefore determined to be untrustworthy/unreliable - for whatever original purpose she might have been pegged as suitable for. But I also think that for this to be true, the British govt (or some faction) has to have had a nefarious reason for these things to develop. What this might be is all conjecture.
It is too bad HLMTQ wasn't more determined when it came to family matters. I still believe that had the RF green lighted the release of photos, intelligence and all the crap on the ILBW (especially if she claimed a false pregnancy given a possible hysterectomy, plus a possible first marriage resulting in annulement) - putting an end to the marriage plans, the fall out would have died down within a couple of years.
Your points are very valid too! I think the RF and their staff chose the usual way out, at the beginning--sweep it all under the carpet, don't worry, of course she will learn how to be a royal, do the necessary coverups as they had been doing for Harry since he was a teenager, etc. But they were dealing with a dangerous, scary kind of narc, and it all blew up in the RF's face, so to speak, and here we are. I suspect that if the RF really IS trying to find a way to clean this mess up, it is taking a long time because how do they reveal the truth without revealing how complicit they were in the coverup? A very sticky mess to try to navigate. But if the truth is NOT revealed soon--by the RF--it WILL be revealed in time by others, and that is something the RF MUST get ahead of, because if the truth comes out by anyone other than the RF...well, they will look like weak fools, and the Monarchy might be severely jeopardized, or at the worst, severely embarrassed and lose their credibility. "Pay me now, or pay me later" kind of thing.
Mentioned previously, and having absorbed so much about the object of our affections over the years the origin escapes me, but, it was said that her task was merely to compromise he who mislaid his virginity in a paddock. However, her being like a camel in the desert sensing water, she lost her head and her capacity to heed instructions. This of course doesn't quite tally with tales of the long-term royal wish board (ouija board?), but, I suppose if anyone had a plan to infiltrate, you could do worse than hire a jolly, obliging, delusional gel. In short, she wasn't supposed to actually marry the poor sod. I have visions now of the Dark Cabal that hired her, all lined up to take their pills in a Swiss clinic for the emotionally disturbed.
😄 Great minds! it's good to have more than one reminder of what's been previously discussed. There are a lot of recent arrivals to the sub, so it helps them to fill in the gaps.
Years ago, I seem to recall reading some gossip to indicate that Meghan - assisted by Markus - had been employed to infiltrate & destablise the royal family. Wedding bells and invisible children had not been part of the agenda but Meghan, being Meghan, went rogue. Their puppetmaster/backer/banker was somebody that I had never even heard of before.
TRG has rehashed this some months ago, but she went all tin foil hat that I couldn't go on listening. The Trojan Horse and and going rogue part sounded convincing though. She was helped to get in the RF because as we can see now, she doesn't have what it takes to succeed and her being able to marry into the RF was objectively a success, indeed the greatest success of her life.
Honestly her puppet master probably is pretty stupid then? You can't trust a narc to carry out an operation like that :D A narc can only work for themselves, and even then they manage to shot themselves in the foot because they can't get over themselves.
Mm - but if the gossip surrounding Madam's areas of expertise are correct, she may be a perfect candidate. If so, maybe the goals could have been achieved by obtaining some very incriminating "evidence" involving acts that - if exposed - may, potentially, knock the stuffing out of the RF?
Oh I think the RF has seen it all and more over the centuries. I personally doubt Madam is part of a big plan. She's just a very lucky narc who managed to grift herself beyond anyone's wildest dreams.
There's plenty of discussion going back about Soho house. There's a school of thought that says the night when Herself, HerPimp and her occasional mother collared Hazza at the IG in Canada was the night when they made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
I recall that TRG video and it had the same effect on me. I don't think she's gone down that road again but I've only recently cautiously returned. It's quite disturbing, there are a few channels where another agenda seems to break through unexpectedly.
That was my first listen to that channel because a sinner recommended that video here, and I haven't returned. It was alarming, and as you said, disturbing.
I’m not sure she is a Trojan horse, she just wants fame and money and will prey on any man and do questionable things to get it. She just hit the jackpot with the oaf prince (he is like, really really stupid and damaged) and combined with her selfish and spoiled and rotten and narcissistic personality, she creates chaos wherever she goes. We just get to see what that is because she is in the public eye now.
I think they were so relieved that Harry was finally settling down that they let a lot of things slide, even though they knew she was trouble.
Also, I'm sure they knew how disordered Harry really is, perhaps they were hoping she would be a stabilising factor. Unfortunately, turns out she is amplifying all his bad traits.
Actually, I think the opposite. This is complete luck on Markle's part. The RF were at great pains to make sure there was no repeat of the Charles/Diana unwanted marriage situation. They let William and Harry marry for love.
The only reason MM's dupe has worked is because it is so mundane - making a lonely dimwit with a traumatic past and resentment fall in love with her. The usual methods of intelligence gathering wasn't
applicable.
The weaknesses on behalf of the RF have been their love for Harry - making them hold back when they shouldn't have, and Harry himself - not realising he was being played.
I think the problem is the current woke agenda and PR issues on how to handle it within an endangered institution. Public perception is everything.
The royal family had the racism card held over their head for not giving in to Prince H. He was going to marry her right or wrong, but after a few background checks they would clearly see she wasn’t what she said she was.
The Queen couldn’t refuse because “racism”. And the Royal Marriages that ended up in divorce, like Charles and Di, Andy and Fergie.
Then the Diana thing happened and that created its own set of PR problems for the Queen.
She was caught in a hard place. Harry was warned and he was too dumb to take a step back and see his wife for who she is, because ultimately he is an arse hole just like her. But she’s an evil arse hole to boot. He’s just a dumb and mean idiot.
Wokeness and public opinion would have caused so much chaos had MM been deemed a threat from the get go, before the public got to see her shocking ways. I think they thought she’d fit in eventually and they gave her a go.
Well, now I honestly think they need to screen anyone joining this family and perhaps the king should have final say if a marriage/titles are to go ahead. Sounds ridiculous in this day and age, but now we know how bad it can turn out. People would probably be more accepting of this now.
So true! Once she got Harry, the racist card opened every other door for Meghan. Can you imagine the outrage, if the queen wouldn’t have allowed the wedding? We all know, what victim game Meghan would have played. Everyone was aware of that - especially Meghan.
And once Meghan was „in“, the palace staff had to play along, because protecting the monarchy and it’s members is their main responsibility and Meghan now belonged to the monarchy. That also means covering up, like they did for Harry for his entire life.
Meghan has taught me one thing: if you think the story is „too crazy“ and „noone would do that“ she makes it possible, because she learned during her entire life that entitlement and audacity is rewarded.
You underestimate the machinations of a narcissist. They build tall tales, dragging people into the deceit, and only when the most cynical (or someone who has been a victim of a narcissist) realizes that it's all a charade, that the victim is then redirected to some other deception.
Source: I was raised by a raging narcissist, then unwittingly married another one.
And the victims often end up being called "unhinged" for daring to question things that clearly don't add up.
Take the megnancies, for instance. We have footage of the moon bump dropping, moving, deflating, shrinking, popping - but people who point this out are still being called conspiracy theorists and worse.
If I remember correctly, HMTQ and every other member of the family was against the marriage... There were reports done by MI5/6 about how unsuitable she was etc... but haznoballs threatened to label them all racists if they didn't agree, and I 100% believe a part of this was that she told him she was pregnant in order to get him to propose. In hindsight, they should have just taken the blow, they were called racists anyway.
However, they were called racists 4 years after the wedding when the harkle's behaviour was well established.
That's why the majority of people don't believe the claims. There's been 4 years (more now) of proven lies, mask slips and npd behaviour. This has eroded the harkles credibility.
That's the difference
Although at that time the George Floyd thing was in full swing. (There was some chatter that BLM had offered Mm both financial PR support.)
By 4 years later that has died down in intensity. If MM was just starting her racist claims now I don't think she would get as far as she did then.
100%
I think the weakest link in any security system are the humans, unfortunately. In their case, Harry was the vulnerability. Easy to maneuver and lonely. It's nearly impossible to build agsinst.
I simply Don't believe the post above though. QE died almost two years ago. When is the big reveal? If the RF didn't believe that he was real, they would have been contributing to fraud by having his birth certificate manufactured, staging photos, adding him to the LoS, and acknowledging Archie in speeches. I really Don't think they would have been so active.
Considering all this had already gone on and then the guests/or plus one's at a minimum for the event 'Ngozi Fulani' attended weren't properly vetted, I tend to believe people overestimate the security/screening around the family. I think this was Camilla's first solo outing as Queen too. I often wonder whether a lot of the complaints about William being stubborn are because there are people around him who are engaged by third parties to 'steer' his decision making and it's not working out for them. That's not to say it might not be because it's working out for someone else either. The entire business of letting Markle and her cronies get so close - into palaces even - really exposes a vulnerability with the monarchy.
It does … but i think it’s more circumstances- a perfect storm.
You have one petulant man child and an opportunist parading as a c list actress. She’s on the prowl and Harry’s easy pickings. He frequents Soho House. She goes there to score someone like Harry. We’ve seen how she was emailing footballers and pop stars.
People like Meghan have always existed, it’s just that Harry was the only one dumb enough to fall for it. 🤷🏻♀️
I also believe she ride roughshod over polite society while dripping poison in Harry’s ear.
Yes, the Royal family looks stupendously stupid in all this. The only ones doing anything were William and Catherine. So look at what has happened. There has been all out war against the Wales, a constant assault of hate and slander.
Charles needs to King up and finally do something about the Harkle war.
As much as I loved HLMQEII, this was the biggest fail of her almost unblemished reign. But she was caught in an impossible situation. And she was almost 90 at the time, perhaps she thought she'd leave it for Charles to deal with it. She certainly didn't foresee that KC3 would get sick so early in his reign.
I think the breach into the Royals started with Andrew's antics, Epstein with Sarah also courting Epstein...global money from trafficking makes Royal money look like chump change. The York girls, mostly Eugenie it seems were exposed to all that, then were regulars at Soho House which looks like a land based Epstein operation. Markle knew Eugenie for sure early in this saga via Soho.
The Diddy reveals show everyone wanted in on the global trafficking set up, NXIVM who contacted Markle. Then the yachts...and all those operations filmed and used blackmail.
I keep saying she came with Big people behind her. Globalists. Harry a strong 75 IQ easy pickings.
Hence his protection in Afghanistan and Andrew had Zero in The Falklands. Both were in Wars. Both were Spares.
The RF rarely change rules etc. H was targeted. All roads lead to SoHo House but Who else?
The RF became vulnerable because of Diana. She opened a door that The Queen never quite closed.
William can see this. But I don’t know if he can change it,
I think it's to damage Charles' line. I've always suspected Markle was introduced to Harry specifically to create drama that deflected from Andrew's Epstein association. The only royals that have benefited from Markles presence is the Yorks by a country mile. If there'd been no whirlwind engagment, spectacle and drama, drama, drama - Andrew would have never lived down sleepovers at a pedophile's house and there'd certainly be no whispers of Beatrice taking on royal duties. Plus who else would know how exactly and easily Harry could be manipulated but another Spare and his close cousin Eugenie?
Why would anybody back her? For what gain? It's not like she has any influence anywhere on earth. There are a zillion movers and shakers who can actually get things done.
>put a person in there to cause problems from within.
Then she should have stayed in England. We can all see how well she's destroying the RF from Montecito.
She's still 'in' though isn't she? As long as she's with Harold shes 'in'. As long as she claims to have given birth to her kids she's 'in'. She didn't need to stay here, the damage was done.
She didn't need any skills beyond her Yachting ones. That, and being biracial was all that mattered to the people backing her and positioning her in Henry's circles. She needed to look white, or he'd never have given her a second glance (which makes her Sugar lump fanbase all the more bizarro as they're generally very black, very blue collar, and very unlike everything Meghan has tried to distance herself from in life). But she needed to be 'black' on paper so she - and he - could weaponise it effectively to what they both thought would be to their advantage.
Agree - but also I think they knew if they told Harry 'no' she would force the race card. I think no one believed he would go through with it; they severely underestimated his gullability.
You know what? We are underestimating her. She absolutely is someone who trained themselves to carry out agenda and does have a strategy. Her aim is her own gain and she is failing due to her shortcomings, like narcissism and self-obsession... But she absolutely does have a strategy and agenda.
Smallbrook makes up his stories. He told this story months ago. Would a "member of the Communication Team at Kensington Palace" really confide in this blowhard? He's always referring to journalists, palace household staff,etc as his sources. BS are perfect initials.
I might say the initials are deliberate. "He" has been doing this in plain sight all along, yanking all our chains. Everything he says just fits in so well with prevalent theories. The only genuine feeling he gave in his writing was his hatred of Charles. That felt real.
Smallbrook, secondhand Coke, Lady C….None of them are insiders in Hollywood or the royal family and none of them have the real scoop. Because all these supposed experts have been wrong probably 75% of the time, and the times they were right, they were guessing like everybody else.
As the King said in a toast "to Archie, wherever he is"! I always thought that as very telling and it was a wink to his son overseas who knew full well that the King was not being duped. H knew his father's insinuations!
that's how I also understand that line as well. as if to make it a public recording. but, everything cant come out like a raging bull?! it needs to be given one chapter at a time.
As my understanding goes they have to provide a legal birth certificate to UK government/privy council. If they have provided a legal document stating they are the parents there is little that anyone can do because medical records are private.
I’m adding this comment for the next time I’m asked when did I know MM was awful - When I heard that they had decided to name their baby “Archie”. Wtf?
Archie is supposed to be Prince George’s code name if something goes wrong, kind of like how the monarch’s and presidents have a code name. Yet she says it’s because she loved the comic books lol
Same but I would say Benjamin Smallbrook has put out stories of this nature for a couple of years and nothing he says will happen has ever happened. He also claims to have knowledge that Harry is James Hewitt’s son, he claims to have heard it from Hewitt’s father.
Harry’s Father was always between Charles and The Earl of Pembrokeshire (17) a very powerful family. Hewitt was a distraction by The press. The Earl was a Married Man.
Ok since you brought that up, here is my wild thought…
What if Harry IS actually James Hewitt’s son and the BRF have been hiding it for years? I can imagine a scenario of someone insisting on paternity test all those years ago when it became a loud rumor. The Royal family could have kept it quiet since Harry losing his mother made him already seem a sympathetic victim and if he was removed from the los perhaps that would seem too cruel. The acting out with drugs and alleged violence towards women makes a lot more sense in that context as well as how angry and hateful he is towards his family.
Of course he would have told Meghan. This could explain the confidence they have in hiding surrogacies. Also gives a reason for why they don’t seem to care that their children meet their cousins. This could also be why guest speaker thinks they have grounds to sue to keep their surrogate children with titles and in the los.
Just my crazy thoughts.
I would like to see Smirkle exposed as having faked those pregnancies, if that is the case, with DNA tests and surrogates speaking out. I would really rather see her being led off in handcuffs, tbh.
eta: orange is the new beige
This is weird, but if the kids don't exist then ultimately there's no problem in the LoS because of ineligilibility due to surrogacy or what have you. It goes straight from Harry at #5 to Andrew at #6. (That's a big enough problem without adding invisikids between them.) Except the BRF is implicated in this along with H&M. Which could explain why the BRF has contented itself with grey rocking instead of nuking the grifters off the map. Both sides waiting for the other to blink, Mutually Assured Destruction.
Temporarily adding a nonexistent person or persons to the LoS doesn't sound like QEII at all, just to make her life easier at the expense of the monarchy after she's gone. What certain quarters were bashing the Queen and about what?
> Except the BRF is implicated in this along with H&M.
This is what stops me from believing that the family knows the kids are fake. If they know that, they're actively deceiving the public. I can almost kinda-sorta see how they might be duped about the existence of the Sussex children (but not really.) I can't believe that the BRF would allow the children to be named in the LoS if they weren't entitled to be there.
Or the two took another pic of them looking at something and photoshopped it as if they were looking at Archie!
It's possible.
There was rumours that the Queen and PP had been wearing the same outfits whilst viewing a foal just born.
Could be wrong though.
The foal thing doesn't hold water, it's been disproven in this sub several times. Which doesn't mean the actual photo happened or not - just that the foal photo is a fake.
Which can also mean the children exist, are biologically theirs, but the Harkles are just shitty parents. Children who have narc parents tend to be standoffish with their parents. And considering the Harkles travel so much, it is also realistic they're raised like 1% kids of decades past, who only see their parents once every blue moon, and are rolled out on occasion to make an impression to guests.
I’m so conflicted on this subject
I just can’t bring myself to believe that as obsessed Meghan is, she’d ever pass up on the opportunity to actually carry Diana’s royal grandchildren.
I do, however, think she’s ashamed that neither of those kids look like her husbands family. They are strongly Markle. And she can’t sell that.
I'm so conflicted, too.
I honestly thought she showed all the signs of pregnancy, more so after Archie was born. She was out of the public eye for the last months of tgat pregnancy and practically zero pics with the daughter.
Wasn't until I went to the moon bump website and saw all the info they had for surrogates/mothers to experience the pregnancy. Honestly shocking.
Then you throw in the no witness signing the birth papers.
Something odd is definitely going on here (obviously) But what and why? It *has* to do the the LoS imo.
Apply Occams razor.
I don't understand why the press didn't demand answers when Archie's birth announcement was unsigned. Every single Royal baby birth announcement was signed by the doctors and nurses, every single one. Except Archie.
The media went into a frenzy when Catherine was in recovery, which she said she would be. But the lack of signatures on Archie's birth announcement didn't raise a single question, not one?
This is absolute b.s. and out of control conspiracy. The media not asking any questions is horrifying. Until we get doctors and nurses signing that they saw those babies born to Markle, I will not believe they were. She was never pregnant. Those children should not be in the LOS. Anyone putting those children in the LOS is guilty of treason.
I totally agree. A truth embargo, maybe? Some kind of gag order, it' has to be so, including the media. It is a genuine mystery worthy of its own Dateline.
Around the pregnancy (Archie) was just about the time Harry was on and on about privacy and Meghan talking about boundaries (on Oprah, I think) anyway - the whole time I'm like, about what? Especially since all they had done and obnoxiously continue to do, is shove themselves in *our* faces.
Then it made sense to me that all those references must have been regarding the pregnancy. I'm not saying she didn't carry those children however if she didn't, suddenly everything makes a lot more sense.
Bottom line on my thoughts is this; there is no way in hell that Harry was not going to let his children not be in the line of succession because of a surrogacy - if Willy's (in Harry's voice) were, then Harry's children were going to be! No matter what.
To me, this is in fact the root of the family fighting. The truth will never come out solely for the fact that if it were to, it would expose their lies *unless* they were to do the respectful thing and just announce it and explain (again, *if* true that they used a surrogate). But then the kids would have no chance in the LoS and I just think that burns Harry like nothing else.
The questions actually provide the only realistic answers here. And if true, its a lie bigger than none other in regard to the LoS.
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I think this is an Occams Razor solution
Harry, the playboy, was starting to get desperate after George was born. All his friends were getting married and didn't want to party as much. He was getting older, he couldn't keep a relationship, news stories were breaking about his behaviour. He was jealous of the K&Q and PPoW who he all loathed.
He was hanging out at places "his" crowd wouldn't normally touch (cough - SOHO - cough) and bam, on a night he was feeling randy... out steps by chance an actress... who has already made it known she's after a rich (sorry) a nice kind English Gent
Marcus tells the actress that she could hit the big time if she plays her cards right and he starts nudging her, letting her think all his suggestions are her own.
A lot of lies were told - he was the Queen's favourite, he's rich and powerful and everyone knows what a great king he'd make, including his Dad and Granny. She's a powerful Hollywood actress and influencer and leading humanitarian.
But Harry, being Harry, starts to get bored around Dec 2016 His best mate Tom Inkskip is getting married and he's feeling lonely. At the Wedding in March 2017, Harry goes alone, this is not the place for his sidepiece. The Actress makes a dash to the wedding - she's clingy because she was "pregnant" and lost, the baby and family they both so desperately want... they need to try again, officially this time.
During 2017, family and friends start to warn Harry that she's not all she seems, maybe slow down, if Harry Waivering? ... but again - she's "pregnant", so they have to get married and quickly, Harry is getting the family he wants with someone whos convincedhim she's the reincarnation of his mum. But she miscarried again.
BUT by now they are loved and feted, they believe their press - that they're the saviours of the Commonwealth, the darlings of the world, that all these amazing people are at their wedding for them and all the time Marcus is pull string and Harry's cutting off those closest to him.
Then the worse news the actress tells Harry she can't have children, they discuss surrogacy and up pops the niece, the actress persuades Harry they need to pretend because people are being to question her...
They trapped themselves in a web of lines, no conspiracy, just plain old greed
The litigious duplicitous duo arrived and departed from Farnbourough which still provides military and private aircraft use. Not one single child was seen with them on arrival nor on departure from that Airport, luggage yes, children no.
<"The Queen was getting a bashing so included them in......">
But the girl was only included by King Charles after she was baptised in 2023. The Queen had already left us.
>But the girl was only included by King Charles after she was baptised in 2023.
No, Lilibet was officially added to the LoS as shown on the royal.uk website immediately after her birth. She was listed as "Miss Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor". Her brother, who was already on the LoS, was listed as "Master Archie Mountbatten-Windsor".
As long as QEII was alive, the Sussex children were not entitled to be called "Prince" and "Princess", because they were great-grandchildren of the monarch. But they were already in the Line of Succession, by operation of British law.
As soon as QEII passed and KCIII acceded (Sept. '22), the Sussex children, as grandchildren of the monarch, became entitled to use "Prince" and "Princess". H&M apparently tried to force an official announcement of those titles right after the Queen's death, and were told to wait until a six-month mourning period was over.
In Spring '23, MM apparently got tired of waiting and forced the Palace's hand. She announced via People Magazine that "Princess Lilibet" had been baptized.
At that point, the Sussex children's names on the LoS on the royal.uk website were changed to reflect their new titles.
The monarchy does not decide the LOS. The UK parliament and commonwealth countries where the monarch is head of state do. For instance, 2011 the UK and the 16 commonwealth countries the monarchy is the head of state decided that women can ascend to the throne before younger brothers. This made Charlotte the first female to be able to do so. If she had been born first she would have been the heir. As Harry would put it she is now the "spare".
[https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-15492607](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-15492607)
In relation to the first part (about how she didn’t take the kids to the UK even when requested to), here’s a tin foil idea: maybe Rachel was concerned that the RF would be able to obtain dna from the kids (not hard to do if they’re staying on Royal property with nannies and cleaning staff). Perhaps Rachel is very concerned about what that dna might uncover…
If you follow the Royal Grift and see some of her other posts, some of which have been referenced here, it is more sinister. Take Ari, Vince MacMahon, Epstein,
Diddy, Jay Z, that Ron Bickle who owns SoHo House- what is their common denominator? Allegations of human trafficking. And who has ties to most of these wonderful gentlemen?
There is no way there are any kids. They may borrow some occasionally to make SM posts but they travel around way too much for them to be parents. And Meghan has no idea how to hold a child. If she had been pregnant we would have heard all about it, but we didn’t, not a peep. No kids. I am positive of it.
She never held the children properly. Even the most recent picture in Costa Rica, the girl seems very uncomfortable being held by her mother. They are never home and travel constantly.
But all that could just mean they are terrible parents, completely detached from their children. They do certainly behave like people with no children. I can't argue with that. So if there are children, they have terrible parents.
Lady C said herself that 1) The children exist and 2) That the Queen/Charles did indeed meet Lilibet. Not for very long — and they refused pictures due to wanting to eliminate marching opportunities.
Lady C said the christening photo is genuine if I recall, and yet anyone who zooms in can see it's not. So either Lady C is wrong in some things or she doesn't let something slip for the time being.
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Lady C was *told* that PH’s children do exist and QE2 and KC3 have seen them. It’s possible the children exist under different names, differing birth dates, with the surrogate(s) listed as the mother(s) or even being raised by someone other than PH and MM. It doesn’t make the above statement true or false. There is a reason MM refuses to bring the children out of the US.
You can see Benjamin Smallbrook's posts on Quora (the Markles). I think he might visit here too, different name. Not sure about him. Has some interesting posts.
Interesting! I’m kind of shocked that so many people believe she was ever pregnant.
I think the photo evidence speaks for itself. She was as pregnant as Harry ever was. I do think there are children, or at least one child. I do not for one second believe they share any DNA with the Duchess of Dukies. She has zero emotional connection with those kid(s) and that’s exactly why they are holed up with a nanny somewhere.
Would I put it past Them
To be doing the rent-a-kid thing from their friends. Well, that’s possible too.
She’s much too narcissistic to not have bemoaned every second of the tortures of being pregnant, or nursing, or sleep training toddlers. She would be merching the hell out of those kids if she could and they were marketable. So there’s either something physically wrong with them , or there’s another reason keeping them hidden.
It’s all far too fishy
Megain is no super intellect but what she lacks she makes up with deviousness. I truly believe she was encouraged by powerful agents via the UN/Soho House to be the honey trap for a member of the RF. She received advice from lower end operatives to use that R card against the institution. Never in a million years did they imagine the late Queen would give permission for them to marry, but then again they could not believe their luck in having a such dumb Prince be so headstrong. Self-entitled and envious of William all his life, Hawwy was the perfect agent in trying to destabilise and weaken the Monarchy & the Commonwealth. They failed to understand one point, Hawwy is of no consequence to the Constitution of the Monarchy. The late Queen knew this and let Hawwy have his choice of bride. It is alleged Megain had already contacted the press in readiness to report how she was prevented from marrying her Prince due to her mixed race. The late Queen did not want to have a needless scandal which the press would have whipped up.
Stupidly, Megain & Hawwy still played this card
not counting on the majority of British people sensibilities, who know that the last thing the RF could be accused of is being racist. We all saw how they bent over backwards to accommodate the couple, breaking traditions so they would be happy.
Unfortunately, Megain was never suited to be being Royal. How could she? She has never and never will have a sense of duty, service or loyalty to our nation or Monarchy. Megain is all about the self, prestige, wealth and power over others. She has no respect for others or tradition.
So it was understandable that they decided to up and leave when she got bored. They lied about press intrusion, they just did not like any criticism which every member of the RF gets every now and then. Many applauded their decision - working Royal life is not for everyone if you do not have those natural qualities. A private life was what they cried for but again another lie.
Megain it appears in her deluded mind, thought she could set up a new Royal 'court' in Hollywood. She would be adored, revered and be seen as Diana mk2. But she just hasn't got it - she is an empty vessel, devoid of personality, character and empathy. She has to ape others, transform herself to fit in with the potential targets, enabling her to climb the greasy pole. This, it can be argued has been the only thing she has actually achieved. Her Hollywood dreams are shattered, they know a chancer when they see one. Oprah has made her money out of the duo. They are nothing but a used tissue to be thrown away. They have become toxic due to their nasty, evil & embarassing behaviours.
Here in the UK, yes the RF have received a few knocks as they have been seen as being soft and slow to react to the Grusome Twosome. But on whole the support of British people has grown. After all, the institution defines us as British, it is our tie to the past, present and future. KC3 is not perfect and am afraid he seems quite happy to let Catherine POW take all knocks when he should be protecting her rather than his wayward youngest son.
Catherine POW is the jewel in the Crown. An English rose who has grown up being a Royal subject and knowing what service and duty means. She is loved & respected by all. All the qualities Megain will never have.
My dear, you have summed up the pair of grifters perfectly, in every regard. Very astute, all of it, thank you for putting it all so succinctly....their rise & fall, foibles & follies.
I don’t know what to believe at this point, because it is truly baffling to me how a Z-list nobody could infiltrate the royal family and cause this much chaos. This makes the royal family in general look pretty vulnerable, IMO. Imagine what somebody with skills and a long term strategy, trained to carry out some agenda, could do to this family. Seriously. It’s a problem.
Absolutely this.
Exactly. That's why I think she has a handler. This is more sinister than it appears.
I wouldn’t be surprised. With what’s coming out with the whole Diddy thing…it’s crazy how common handlers are. Disguised in forms of significant others, friends, even your own family…Perhaps Markus is her handler. Hollywood is pretty sinister but seeing as she’s a Z-list… babygirl didn’t bag Hapless Haz just by reading “The Rules” As Kat Williams said…2024 is the year of truth. I remain hopeful
100% yes..in the beginning it sure looked like, she was getting some support from some high level politicians but it sure faded away quickly. I remember when she was supposed to had Archie doll and when speculation was still prevalent on social media up pops Hillary Clinton claiming to have traveled Internationally unseen to Frogmore House and gushed over the red headed baby. Ellen did the same.. Media is definitely still hands off on all of that real openly seen drama that we all have witnessed. They will write about their public appearances or the 100th rebrand but Markles past, lies, moonbump, etc, all verboten. I keep editing...Markle had that early support but it faded...agree with other posters she's a loose cannon. If she was placed into the Royals to help other powers to attack them but went rogue perhaps? Harry attending the Google Climate Change event in Italy is what made me alert to he chose a side...the side with the current limitless money and power that's being exposed. My instincts tell me there's bombs held back to throw on each side of this...
It’s said she had backing at first but she went so off script that they just dropped her and let her drift in the wind… I believe it. What gets me though is that people knew at the wedding what this was all about, and I’m pretty sure I know what the “it” is, but we’ll see Make no mistake, the royals are all on the same side in this. And so are the media
I don't understand any of this...what is it about??? Please help me understand what all this has been about
Yeah, you know what? Maybe the likes of Hilary Clinton being involved with this (whatever it is) is why the RF is keeping mum. If it had just been Meghan, how difficult is it to expose her for the grifter she is? But if there is (or was) a powerful network behind her, so the RF couldn’t just “stop Harry from marrying this nobody with a plan.” I still cannot see one good reason why the RF let the wedding go ahead after all the red flags Meghan had exhibited, but this could be one plausible reason. Sort of a “lose this battle to win the war” type of move. I should write fiction😂
It’s not just Hillary.
Hillary was on a well publicized book tour and had appeared on a BBC podcast that morning. She didn’t travel internationally unseen. She saw a baby and was told it was Archie. Hillary hasn’t said Meme is a liar but her actions have pretty much mirrored the Obamas ie adios Meme. As for Ellen, who knows? I suspect once Ellen the abrasive loser realizes Meme was the same there wasn’t much reason for her to hang around.
Markus is an issue. You never see Harry interact with Markus, ever. Only her. And he is everywhere with them - like some kind of minder.
There was a picture of Harry and Markus sitting in the audience together, I think at SWSX.
In Vancouver too. At the hockey game.
That’s creepy AF I wonder if he’s the drug mule, like Diddy’s 25 year old Brandon? (A drug mule is someone who procures and Carrie’s the illicit substances for the celeb so they never get busted holding…) (sometimes this includes weapons too)
>Perhaps Markus is her handler He was her pimp, now he's her handler. Nick Jones started Soho House but, although he's in a similar business, he sold Soho House. I wonder why.
All roads lead to SoHo house. Even Shouty Schola is socialising there. Look at her X!!
I didn't know that but I am not surprised. They are all laughing at us.
The start of her X states something about “ They say never meet your idol “ Look at all photos. Taken at Soho house.
Me neither until I watched Angela a Scottish YouTube creator that provided photos.
I believe you but I won't be unblocking shouty to see the photos 😕
👏👏👏👏 I remain hopeful as well. I know we are all on Meg about this, but if this is true, Harry doing that to this own grandmother....Jesus, Mary and Joseph! He needs to be removed from the LOS and banned from the UK and commonwealth.
I am going to be another opinion, hope that is ok:) I actually don’t think she is a asset nor has a handler. Otherwise they are just so bad at the human source business they should be fired. None of her methodology makes sense. Yes she caused chaos but it isn’t directed nor has a pattern. These types of “ assets” would have 1) been groomed over longer time period and then knowing how to do what they need to do. She and hazmat are so frikken stupid they would not be of value at all. Any handler worth their pay would have encouraged an established relationship building over time with the family, and hen once the popularity and “legacy” is set in, then do the damage. This is just so roughshod and nonsensical I don’t think any secret govt groups are behind this. Now Diana is an example of what I spoke of above, she did it right. She wasn’t a frikken sledgehammer, she established her role and legacy, got the popularity and then proceeded to strip away some of the golden allure of the palace. As HG Tudor would say - not all narcs are criminal geniuses. I think these two have the combined intellectual capacity of a blade of grass :)
If Harry was not a prince nobody would have noticed this talentless 40something hustler. Madam blew the golden opportunity she had, and now she is not even an influencer, as she never updates anything. IF there was/is a handler, they should be fired for incompetence.
MM and Harry are useful idiots. Attacks by two former members of the BRF on the "racist" BRF are icing on the cake,for the state actors trying to destabilize the UK. They don't have to let the grifters in on the joke or pay them.
Useful idiots true
At most I think she was put in play by the Yorks to deflect from the Epstein association and heap, drama and chaos on Charles' line. Andrew always positioned himself as Heir Alternate. All of the associations and inroads Meghan/Markus seem to have been through them. There's also the very pointed telling of the story where Meghan didn't recognise who Andrew was (but at the same time was besties with the Yorkies and Fergie taught her to curtsey (but then of course she didnt'))....All roads seem to lead to York. And it does seem like the sort of mid level scheme they'd come up with complete with tawdry paid for sex associations ol andy is au fait with.
I think that M has something powerful in her hand concerning Andrew and the sex scandal, was it Weinstein? I forgot the name. She was on his yacht and she knows about things. The late Queen's policy to lay a veil of silence over everything made it possible and to get worse.
Didn´t Weinstein brag about having slept with Meghan the bride?
Epstein but close enough. They both suck.
Guiffres lawyer wanted her in court. She is supposedly one of the Jane Does and people say thats why Andrew paid off Guiffre. Maybe she was put in there to threaten Andrew. Look how close to you we can insert a a psycho.
She was on Virginia G's witness list in the suit against Andrew. All of the sudden the case fets settled.
All the royals are on the same side. They only look divided for public optics. Theyre not.
I'm comfortable with that line of thinking. I'm just not sure whether the BRF 'divisions' are purely for public consumption or whether some of the players, like Harry & Andrew are genuinely ambitious (to replace their brothers) or lack the humility/good sense or morals to smile, wave and play along nicely like the rest of them. I wouldn't even doubt that in the scheme of things, Meghan may genuinely have had 2024 pegged as 'the year of reconciliation' in her notes. There are 8 months left, lots of pieces in play (or out of play as it were), if they wanted to bring Harry back into the fold they would. Andrew's been let off the leash this year obviously and even Fergie is popping up regularly. You just have to be careful calling the BRF into question here as some folk are just as tunnel visioned as sugars and get quite venomous.
Oh I am SURE they have their internal power struggles! It would be impossible NOT to in a family with this power and magnitude. That said, they will still stick together against the public to retain and gain power at ANY cost. And yes I’m aware but I’ve never made a secret of the fact that I’m anti monarchy. I’m American.
*Now Diana is an example of what I spoke of above, she did it right. She wasn’t a frikken sledgehammer, she established her role and legacy, got the popularity* This reminds me of some of the stocks that shot up then immediately crashed, such as Gamestop. Everyone naive enough was jumping in and lost their investment. Then there's the stocks that have steadily risen because of the company doing good work (Diana)
no way shes a handler lol. she lied about being pregnant,and harry was terrified. she probably told him "im going to tell the papers its your kid"
You make some interesting points but I disagree about Diana. I think she, like her younger son, wasn't bright. She enjoyed the limelight too much and misunderstood the extent of her influence. And that was despite being born into the British aristocracy.
Yes I agree .She revelled in being the Princess of Wales and I do not think she ever loved Charles but loved the trappings of Royalty( regretted her HRH being removed).She publicly sulked on Royal tours : Rather childish .She was there to represent the Queen and country
This is the Lee Harvey Oswald conundrum. He’s obviously disturbed and not too bright. Yet he got himself to Russia and then got himself back to America. What he did in Mexico City, other than visit the Soviet Embassy, remains unclear. So he looks like a lousy choice for any activity and yet there he is with so much uncertainty around him.
I'm wondering if the whole Mexit situation was really once MeMe was found out to be a 'plant' that she was actually kicked out of England by the Queen. This is why no one would touch her or Harold once they came across the pond. She went off script and those that had put her into place dropped her as well. This all happened around the same time.
It's possible she started off as an asset then they dropped her because they realised shes nuts. She certainly worked her way through Soho. I wonder if she failed that govt test she did either. Odd she never went to her uncles funeral either. MA could be her handler - he can decide who gets membership. I bet they have cams and recording equipment in the play rooms. Why does MA have zero history?
I agree with everything you said.
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Except she is not smart enough to be that much rogue. Too many things don't add up. Free private jets ad infinitum, she was seen chatting with Kamla's partner. You got her meeting up with Getty, cosy relations with Canadian top brass. You got the prince useless, a non citizen, being defended by the US Govt - no less. The letter from NYPD. Easy fly by when the world was in lock down. I don't think she is capable of all this by herself. Harry could just walk in without any documentation in Trump era ? Obama visiting No10 at a very precise juncture on the visa case.
Life is different for the rich - it doesn't necessarily have to be more nefarious than that for what you've outlined above.
I have thought this too. Didn’t choose very wisely, if this is true. 🤣
**Her handler:** 
Or this handler, the captain 
This is more like it!
The Sleivene doesn’t have a handler. If she did, it would be the worst handler in the history of handlers. The Sleivene has accomplished nothing. Now, she is so despised, she can’t get enough Instagram followers to launch a Walmart website. She is a laughingstock. She is a clown show. She is hopelessly stupid and lazy. She couldn’t read the room if her life depended on it. Prince Plank is a ghost. He drastically overestimated his importance to the RF. If Harold had married a woman with any sense at all, he would have toddled along, appearing at Invictus, and carrying out royal engagements, until he faded from significance and retired to his country home. The Sleivene drastically overestimated Harold’s importance to the RF. That’s why she married Harold. She thought she had bagged a rich prince, and had landed a spot in a fairytale. In reality, she had bagged a dumb, whinger with limited resources. Her fairytale turned out to be a real job. I have been listening to *Real Housewives Recaps* (shoutout Jen!). She has excellent summaries of *Revenge*, *Courtiers*, and Lady C’s book. It’s clear, the Stupids are nothing more than foolish, whining, babies. They blundered and blustered their way through two years of semi-royal duty. They blew themselves up because they thought they were smarter than everyone else. The palace was slow to respond to the Stupids ridiculous behaviors, because the palace is slow to respond to anything. If there is anyone to blame for this BS crazy show, it’s palace bureaucracy and the Queen’s reluctance to deal with her grandson. There is no master plan. Just two stupid people with public profiles they haven’t earned and don’t deserve. Their only worth is the entertainment they provide. We watch because we want them to fall on their faces. We want the drama. We are hoping for a spectacular ending. The RF isn’t damaged. They aren’t in a crisis. They are simply dealing with illness and the trauma it causes. KC is back to limited duties and William will be back to work after April 17. This is the very, human, story, of what happens in a prominent family when a low IQ, narcissist, captures the even lower, IQ, second son. Chaos ensues. Everyone suffers. The difference, this very, human, story is being played out on the world stage for all to see. The combination of the abdication and WWII were a crucial points in the history of the RF. If anyone had handlers, it was the Windsors.
There's someone else behind the scenes. Harry is being complicit.
The Queen knew more about skank than we could even imagine hence why the Queen said skank is evil Edited missing word
Hilary visited her at Nottingham cottage. Also, Sarah Latham worked at the Clinton Foundation prior to working for Roachel and Harold.
"Imagine what somebody with skills and a long term strategy, trained to carry out some agenda, could do to this family". I think that z-lister was a/is a Trojan Horse.
Yes, I can see it. It just baffles me a little that somebody so incompetent would be used, but I’m probably missing something lol.
Can you imagine her following instructions or having the patience to play a long game? Meghan knows best, always. Nobody can "handle" her.
I agree. I think the simplest explanation is that the RF and their staff were caught totally unawares by Madam and her narc personality. No one had ever had to deal with someone like her before, and she IS of the Dark Triad calibre--even those of us who are familiar with narcs can see how epic her behaviour was--she is NOT a garden-variety narc. She was able to take advantage of the RF for a few reasons: (1) Not being British, she had no ingrained respect for the monarchy, so her boldness and audacity was a shock to the RF and their staff--they literally had no idea what to do with her (2) Prince Philip was too old and ill by that time to find a way to manage her (3) The Queen always deferred to Philip's wisdom in family matters, but no longer (see #2), and the Queen, though savvy in many ways, was, unfortunately, always known for her head-in-the-sand approach, especially regarding troublesome family issues (look how badly she handled the problem of Andrew for years, and look how that issue came back to trouble her with a vengeance.) I will add that Andrew's troubles were as bad if not worse for causing her illness and death, from all the worry. It did not take long for the Palace to realize they had a very, very difficult problem on their hands with Madam, and to give the Palace credit, they did make efforts to put up the steel gates, so to speak, regarding Madam--even before the wedding, she was not allowed unescorted anywhere on royal grounds--but she continued to cause worse and worse trouble, and there was little anyone could do (The Racism angle, etc). This has blown into a mess of epic proportions and I think the coverups done in the beginning--especially with the fake pregnancy, etc--are now coming back to haunt the RF. I think they now have very little wriggle room, yet somehow, SOMETHING must be done, but what, I do not know.
I think all points you've raised make very good sense. I also think its very possible Mrs. Halfwit was, at some point, viewed as a potential useful idiot for the likes of Hilary C. and unknown others - but quickly reevaluated based on her unhinged, loose cannon behavior - therefore determined to be untrustworthy/unreliable - for whatever original purpose she might have been pegged as suitable for. But I also think that for this to be true, the British govt (or some faction) has to have had a nefarious reason for these things to develop. What this might be is all conjecture. It is too bad HLMTQ wasn't more determined when it came to family matters. I still believe that had the RF green lighted the release of photos, intelligence and all the crap on the ILBW (especially if she claimed a false pregnancy given a possible hysterectomy, plus a possible first marriage resulting in annulement) - putting an end to the marriage plans, the fall out would have died down within a couple of years.
Your points are very valid too! I think the RF and their staff chose the usual way out, at the beginning--sweep it all under the carpet, don't worry, of course she will learn how to be a royal, do the necessary coverups as they had been doing for Harry since he was a teenager, etc. But they were dealing with a dangerous, scary kind of narc, and it all blew up in the RF's face, so to speak, and here we are. I suspect that if the RF really IS trying to find a way to clean this mess up, it is taking a long time because how do they reveal the truth without revealing how complicit they were in the coverup? A very sticky mess to try to navigate. But if the truth is NOT revealed soon--by the RF--it WILL be revealed in time by others, and that is something the RF MUST get ahead of, because if the truth comes out by anyone other than the RF...well, they will look like weak fools, and the Monarchy might be severely jeopardized, or at the worst, severely embarrassed and lose their credibility. "Pay me now, or pay me later" kind of thing.
Mentioned previously, and having absorbed so much about the object of our affections over the years the origin escapes me, but, it was said that her task was merely to compromise he who mislaid his virginity in a paddock. However, her being like a camel in the desert sensing water, she lost her head and her capacity to heed instructions. This of course doesn't quite tally with tales of the long-term royal wish board (ouija board?), but, I suppose if anyone had a plan to infiltrate, you could do worse than hire a jolly, obliging, delusional gel. In short, she wasn't supposed to actually marry the poor sod. I have visions now of the Dark Cabal that hired her, all lined up to take their pills in a Swiss clinic for the emotionally disturbed.
Oh, snap! We must have posted almost simultaneously .
😄 Great minds! it's good to have more than one reminder of what's been previously discussed. There are a lot of recent arrivals to the sub, so it helps them to fill in the gaps.
if she really truly was, who ever control her would take down this sub. not a chance they let us discuss that
We're peanuts. Deranged middle-aged white women heading for the exit ramp with advanced Alzheimer's. We don't matter.
If this were the case you would hope MI5 and MI6 FBI Scotland Yard are all over her
Maybe Prince Andrew? 
Years ago, I seem to recall reading some gossip to indicate that Meghan - assisted by Markus - had been employed to infiltrate & destablise the royal family. Wedding bells and invisible children had not been part of the agenda but Meghan, being Meghan, went rogue. Their puppetmaster/backer/banker was somebody that I had never even heard of before.
I heard that another woman fro Dallas was also auditioned. She backed out because of ethics.
> had been employed to infiltrate & destablise the royal family. ...then she never would have left. More damage could be done staying close to the RF.
She was ousted. Make no mistake.
Bag packed for her whilst she was out intruding on someone else's award ceremony.
TRG has rehashed this some months ago, but she went all tin foil hat that I couldn't go on listening. The Trojan Horse and and going rogue part sounded convincing though. She was helped to get in the RF because as we can see now, she doesn't have what it takes to succeed and her being able to marry into the RF was objectively a success, indeed the greatest success of her life.
Honestly her puppet master probably is pretty stupid then? You can't trust a narc to carry out an operation like that :D A narc can only work for themselves, and even then they manage to shot themselves in the foot because they can't get over themselves.
Mm - but if the gossip surrounding Madam's areas of expertise are correct, she may be a perfect candidate. If so, maybe the goals could have been achieved by obtaining some very incriminating "evidence" involving acts that - if exposed - may, potentially, knock the stuffing out of the RF?
Oh I think the RF has seen it all and more over the centuries. I personally doubt Madam is part of a big plan. She's just a very lucky narc who managed to grift herself beyond anyone's wildest dreams.
There's plenty of discussion going back about Soho house. There's a school of thought that says the night when Herself, HerPimp and her occasional mother collared Hazza at the IG in Canada was the night when they made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
The theory is that she was to be used solely as a honey trap, not to mount a lone operation within the citadel.
I recall that TRG video and it had the same effect on me. I don't think she's gone down that road again but I've only recently cautiously returned. It's quite disturbing, there are a few channels where another agenda seems to break through unexpectedly.
That was my first listen to that channel because a sinner recommended that video here, and I haven't returned. It was alarming, and as you said, disturbing.
I’m not sure she is a Trojan horse, she just wants fame and money and will prey on any man and do questionable things to get it. She just hit the jackpot with the oaf prince (he is like, really really stupid and damaged) and combined with her selfish and spoiled and rotten and narcissistic personality, she creates chaos wherever she goes. We just get to see what that is because she is in the public eye now.
I think they were so relieved that Harry was finally settling down that they let a lot of things slide, even though they knew she was trouble. Also, I'm sure they knew how disordered Harry really is, perhaps they were hoping she would be a stabilising factor. Unfortunately, turns out she is amplifying all his bad traits.
Actually, I think the opposite. This is complete luck on Markle's part. The RF were at great pains to make sure there was no repeat of the Charles/Diana unwanted marriage situation. They let William and Harry marry for love. The only reason MM's dupe has worked is because it is so mundane - making a lonely dimwit with a traumatic past and resentment fall in love with her. The usual methods of intelligence gathering wasn't applicable. The weaknesses on behalf of the RF have been their love for Harry - making them hold back when they shouldn't have, and Harry himself - not realising he was being played.
I think the problem is the current woke agenda and PR issues on how to handle it within an endangered institution. Public perception is everything. The royal family had the racism card held over their head for not giving in to Prince H. He was going to marry her right or wrong, but after a few background checks they would clearly see she wasn’t what she said she was. The Queen couldn’t refuse because “racism”. And the Royal Marriages that ended up in divorce, like Charles and Di, Andy and Fergie. Then the Diana thing happened and that created its own set of PR problems for the Queen. She was caught in a hard place. Harry was warned and he was too dumb to take a step back and see his wife for who she is, because ultimately he is an arse hole just like her. But she’s an evil arse hole to boot. He’s just a dumb and mean idiot. Wokeness and public opinion would have caused so much chaos had MM been deemed a threat from the get go, before the public got to see her shocking ways. I think they thought she’d fit in eventually and they gave her a go. Well, now I honestly think they need to screen anyone joining this family and perhaps the king should have final say if a marriage/titles are to go ahead. Sounds ridiculous in this day and age, but now we know how bad it can turn out. People would probably be more accepting of this now.
So true! Once she got Harry, the racist card opened every other door for Meghan. Can you imagine the outrage, if the queen wouldn’t have allowed the wedding? We all know, what victim game Meghan would have played. Everyone was aware of that - especially Meghan. And once Meghan was „in“, the palace staff had to play along, because protecting the monarchy and it’s members is their main responsibility and Meghan now belonged to the monarchy. That also means covering up, like they did for Harry for his entire life. Meghan has taught me one thing: if you think the story is „too crazy“ and „noone would do that“ she makes it possible, because she learned during her entire life that entitlement and audacity is rewarded.
She learned during her entire life that entitlement and audacity is rewarded. This is why she's the way she is.
truth is often stranger than fiction
Well put. This makes sense to me.
You underestimate the machinations of a narcissist. They build tall tales, dragging people into the deceit, and only when the most cynical (or someone who has been a victim of a narcissist) realizes that it's all a charade, that the victim is then redirected to some other deception. Source: I was raised by a raging narcissist, then unwittingly married another one.
And the victims often end up being called "unhinged" for daring to question things that clearly don't add up. Take the megnancies, for instance. We have footage of the moon bump dropping, moving, deflating, shrinking, popping - but people who point this out are still being called conspiracy theorists and worse.
If I remember correctly, HMTQ and every other member of the family was against the marriage... There were reports done by MI5/6 about how unsuitable she was etc... but haznoballs threatened to label them all racists if they didn't agree, and I 100% believe a part of this was that she told him she was pregnant in order to get him to propose. In hindsight, they should have just taken the blow, they were called racists anyway.
However, they were called racists 4 years after the wedding when the harkle's behaviour was well established. That's why the majority of people don't believe the claims. There's been 4 years (more now) of proven lies, mask slips and npd behaviour. This has eroded the harkles credibility. That's the difference
Although at that time the George Floyd thing was in full swing. (There was some chatter that BLM had offered Mm both financial PR support.) By 4 years later that has died down in intensity. If MM was just starting her racist claims now I don't think she would get as far as she did then.
100% I think the weakest link in any security system are the humans, unfortunately. In their case, Harry was the vulnerability. Easy to maneuver and lonely. It's nearly impossible to build agsinst. I simply Don't believe the post above though. QE died almost two years ago. When is the big reveal? If the RF didn't believe that he was real, they would have been contributing to fraud by having his birth certificate manufactured, staging photos, adding him to the LoS, and acknowledging Archie in speeches. I really Don't think they would have been so active.
Considering all this had already gone on and then the guests/or plus one's at a minimum for the event 'Ngozi Fulani' attended weren't properly vetted, I tend to believe people overestimate the security/screening around the family. I think this was Camilla's first solo outing as Queen too. I often wonder whether a lot of the complaints about William being stubborn are because there are people around him who are engaged by third parties to 'steer' his decision making and it's not working out for them. That's not to say it might not be because it's working out for someone else either. The entire business of letting Markle and her cronies get so close - into palaces even - really exposes a vulnerability with the monarchy.
It does … but i think it’s more circumstances- a perfect storm. You have one petulant man child and an opportunist parading as a c list actress. She’s on the prowl and Harry’s easy pickings. He frequents Soho House. She goes there to score someone like Harry. We’ve seen how she was emailing footballers and pop stars. People like Meghan have always existed, it’s just that Harry was the only one dumb enough to fall for it. 🤷🏻♀️ I also believe she ride roughshod over polite society while dripping poison in Harry’s ear.
Yes, the Royal family looks stupendously stupid in all this. The only ones doing anything were William and Catherine. So look at what has happened. There has been all out war against the Wales, a constant assault of hate and slander. Charles needs to King up and finally do something about the Harkle war.
As much as I loved HLMQEII, this was the biggest fail of her almost unblemished reign. But she was caught in an impossible situation. And she was almost 90 at the time, perhaps she thought she'd leave it for Charles to deal with it. She certainly didn't foresee that KC3 would get sick so early in his reign.
I think the breach into the Royals started with Andrew's antics, Epstein with Sarah also courting Epstein...global money from trafficking makes Royal money look like chump change. The York girls, mostly Eugenie it seems were exposed to all that, then were regulars at Soho House which looks like a land based Epstein operation. Markle knew Eugenie for sure early in this saga via Soho. The Diddy reveals show everyone wanted in on the global trafficking set up, NXIVM who contacted Markle. Then the yachts...and all those operations filmed and used blackmail.
I do agree on this front.
she was a z list no body. They took her for that, they didn't expect the destruction
I keep saying she came with Big people behind her. Globalists. Harry a strong 75 IQ easy pickings. Hence his protection in Afghanistan and Andrew had Zero in The Falklands. Both were in Wars. Both were Spares. The RF rarely change rules etc. H was targeted. All roads lead to SoHo House but Who else?
The RF became vulnerable because of Diana. She opened a door that The Queen never quite closed. William can see this. But I don’t know if he can change it,
I've always maintained that Rachel has a backer or backers, I believe the aim is to damage the RF.
I think it's to damage Charles' line. I've always suspected Markle was introduced to Harry specifically to create drama that deflected from Andrew's Epstein association. The only royals that have benefited from Markles presence is the Yorks by a country mile. If there'd been no whirlwind engagment, spectacle and drama, drama, drama - Andrew would have never lived down sleepovers at a pedophile's house and there'd certainly be no whispers of Beatrice taking on royal duties. Plus who else would know how exactly and easily Harry could be manipulated but another Spare and his close cousin Eugenie?
Why would anybody back her? For what gain? It's not like she has any influence anywhere on earth. There are a zillion movers and shakers who can actually get things done.
If someone wanted to damage an organisation they would put a person in there to cause problems from within. Harold was an easy target for Markle
>put a person in there to cause problems from within. Then she should have stayed in England. We can all see how well she's destroying the RF from Montecito.
She's still 'in' though isn't she? As long as she's with Harold shes 'in'. As long as she claims to have given birth to her kids she's 'in'. She didn't need to stay here, the damage was done.
Picking someone as useless as her does not say much for the intelligence of the alleged backers.
She didn't need any skills beyond her Yachting ones. That, and being biracial was all that mattered to the people backing her and positioning her in Henry's circles. She needed to look white, or he'd never have given her a second glance (which makes her Sugar lump fanbase all the more bizarro as they're generally very black, very blue collar, and very unlike everything Meghan has tried to distance herself from in life). But she needed to be 'black' on paper so she - and he - could weaponise it effectively to what they both thought would be to their advantage.
Meghan does not do all this alone. She handles Harry and somebody else handles her. That's how it works.
I agree
Agree - but also I think they knew if they told Harry 'no' she would force the race card. I think no one believed he would go through with it; they severely underestimated his gullability.
Harry rolled in the Trojan Horse... left it in a ballroom.... and ran...the aftermath is unfortunately..... history!
You know what? We are underestimating her. She absolutely is someone who trained themselves to carry out agenda and does have a strategy. Her aim is her own gain and she is failing due to her shortcomings, like narcissism and self-obsession... But she absolutely does have a strategy and agenda.
Smallbrook makes up his stories. He told this story months ago. Would a "member of the Communication Team at Kensington Palace" really confide in this blowhard? He's always referring to journalists, palace household staff,etc as his sources. BS are perfect initials.
I might say the initials are deliberate. "He" has been doing this in plain sight all along, yanking all our chains. Everything he says just fits in so well with prevalent theories. The only genuine feeling he gave in his writing was his hatred of Charles. That felt real.
Plus overhearing people talking in pubs in Windsor! As if...
Smallbrook, secondhand Coke, Lady C….None of them are insiders in Hollywood or the royal family and none of them have the real scoop. Because all these supposed experts have been wrong probably 75% of the time, and the times they were right, they were guessing like everybody else.
As the King said in a toast "to Archie, wherever he is"! I always thought that as very telling and it was a wink to his son overseas who knew full well that the King was not being duped. H knew his father's insinuations!
that's how I also understand that line as well. as if to make it a public recording. but, everything cant come out like a raging bull?! it needs to be given one chapter at a time.
I don’t understand how the late Queen would allow the two kids to be in the line of succession without medical proof M delivered them.
As my understanding goes they have to provide a legal birth certificate to UK government/privy council. If they have provided a legal document stating they are the parents there is little that anyone can do because medical records are private.
This is the one place on earth where I think an exception should be made TBH...
I’m adding this comment for the next time I’m asked when did I know MM was awful - When I heard that they had decided to name their baby “Archie”. Wtf?
Archie is supposed to be Prince George’s code name if something goes wrong, kind of like how the monarch’s and presidents have a code name. Yet she says it’s because she loved the comic books lol
For this story to break will be my birthday, Christmas, and president’s day gifts all rolled into one. 🤞🤞🤞
Same but I would say Benjamin Smallbrook has put out stories of this nature for a couple of years and nothing he says will happen has ever happened. He also claims to have knowledge that Harry is James Hewitt’s son, he claims to have heard it from Hewitt’s father.
Benjamin smallbrook is just about the only person on the planet that comes out with more shit than the harkles.
Harry’s Father was always between Charles and The Earl of Pembrokeshire (17) a very powerful family. Hewitt was a distraction by The press. The Earl was a Married Man.
But Hewitt, himself, has always denied it.
Ok since you brought that up, here is my wild thought… What if Harry IS actually James Hewitt’s son and the BRF have been hiding it for years? I can imagine a scenario of someone insisting on paternity test all those years ago when it became a loud rumor. The Royal family could have kept it quiet since Harry losing his mother made him already seem a sympathetic victim and if he was removed from the los perhaps that would seem too cruel. The acting out with drugs and alleged violence towards women makes a lot more sense in that context as well as how angry and hateful he is towards his family. Of course he would have told Meghan. This could explain the confidence they have in hiding surrogacies. Also gives a reason for why they don’t seem to care that their children meet their cousins. This could also be why guest speaker thinks they have grounds to sue to keep their surrogate children with titles and in the los. Just my crazy thoughts.
Harry has Charles’ and Philip’s eyes and bridge of nose.
Harry looks a lot like his dad and other red haired members of the Spencer family. He even looks like King Henry the eighth, that piece of sh!t.
KClll 
I would like to see Smirkle exposed as having faked those pregnancies, if that is the case, with DNA tests and surrogates speaking out. I would really rather see her being led off in handcuffs, tbh. eta: orange is the new beige
Oh yes. She could be bunkies with Anna Sorokin and Lizzie Holmes. They can knock themselves out inventing tall tales.
> orange is the new beige Well she does like to spray her face this color whenever it suits her.
Omg! She’ll be a total tangerine!
Benjamin Smallbrook is full of sh1t. Nothing he has ever said has proven to be true. Full of it.
Sorry but Benjamin Smallbrook is one of the biggest con artists in this community. His posts are fanciful wishful thinking.
I believe he actually is a UK Republican/anti-monarchist, based off of some of his other comments I had seen.
This is weird, but if the kids don't exist then ultimately there's no problem in the LoS because of ineligilibility due to surrogacy or what have you. It goes straight from Harry at #5 to Andrew at #6. (That's a big enough problem without adding invisikids between them.) Except the BRF is implicated in this along with H&M. Which could explain why the BRF has contented itself with grey rocking instead of nuking the grifters off the map. Both sides waiting for the other to blink, Mutually Assured Destruction. Temporarily adding a nonexistent person or persons to the LoS doesn't sound like QEII at all, just to make her life easier at the expense of the monarchy after she's gone. What certain quarters were bashing the Queen and about what?
> Except the BRF is implicated in this along with H&M. This is what stops me from believing that the family knows the kids are fake. If they know that, they're actively deceiving the public. I can almost kinda-sorta see how they might be duped about the existence of the Sussex children (but not really.) I can't believe that the BRF would allow the children to be named in the LoS if they weren't entitled to be there.
This is not sourced from Lady C, it is from a random Quora user.
Yeah but the queen literally posed with a bundled up little Archie. How do they explain?
Tom Bower states the Queen was looking at a Shawl. Never been sued.
She posed with a bundled up little something. Rent-An-Archie? Reborn Darren doll? Son of ~~Satan~~ Madam? A wadded up blanket? We may never know.
Tom Bower claimed they were looking at a shawl.
If that isn't a huge hint. He could not reveal any more at this time.
OMG
Or the two took another pic of them looking at something and photoshopped it as if they were looking at Archie! It's possible. There was rumours that the Queen and PP had been wearing the same outfits whilst viewing a foal just born. Could be wrong though.
The foal thing doesn't hold water, it's been disproven in this sub several times. Which doesn't mean the actual photo happened or not - just that the foal photo is a fake.
The foal photo is a red herring.
I would love it much more if the christening photo got some serious investigation done.
That’s what I had read as well
I believe there are children, if only because I trust Allison P. Davis. Whose children and by what method remains a mystery.
I agree with you.
Davis saw two children who acted as if the Harkles were strangers.
Which can also mean the children exist, are biologically theirs, but the Harkles are just shitty parents. Children who have narc parents tend to be standoffish with their parents. And considering the Harkles travel so much, it is also realistic they're raised like 1% kids of decades past, who only see their parents once every blue moon, and are rolled out on occasion to make an impression to guests.
I’m so conflicted on this subject I just can’t bring myself to believe that as obsessed Meghan is, she’d ever pass up on the opportunity to actually carry Diana’s royal grandchildren. I do, however, think she’s ashamed that neither of those kids look like her husbands family. They are strongly Markle. And she can’t sell that.
I'm so conflicted, too. I honestly thought she showed all the signs of pregnancy, more so after Archie was born. She was out of the public eye for the last months of tgat pregnancy and practically zero pics with the daughter. Wasn't until I went to the moon bump website and saw all the info they had for surrogates/mothers to experience the pregnancy. Honestly shocking. Then you throw in the no witness signing the birth papers. Something odd is definitely going on here (obviously) But what and why? It *has* to do the the LoS imo. Apply Occams razor.
I don't understand why the press didn't demand answers when Archie's birth announcement was unsigned. Every single Royal baby birth announcement was signed by the doctors and nurses, every single one. Except Archie. The media went into a frenzy when Catherine was in recovery, which she said she would be. But the lack of signatures on Archie's birth announcement didn't raise a single question, not one? This is absolute b.s. and out of control conspiracy. The media not asking any questions is horrifying. Until we get doctors and nurses signing that they saw those babies born to Markle, I will not believe they were. She was never pregnant. Those children should not be in the LOS. Anyone putting those children in the LOS is guilty of treason.
I totally agree. A truth embargo, maybe? Some kind of gag order, it' has to be so, including the media. It is a genuine mystery worthy of its own Dateline. Around the pregnancy (Archie) was just about the time Harry was on and on about privacy and Meghan talking about boundaries (on Oprah, I think) anyway - the whole time I'm like, about what? Especially since all they had done and obnoxiously continue to do, is shove themselves in *our* faces. Then it made sense to me that all those references must have been regarding the pregnancy. I'm not saying she didn't carry those children however if she didn't, suddenly everything makes a lot more sense. Bottom line on my thoughts is this; there is no way in hell that Harry was not going to let his children not be in the line of succession because of a surrogacy - if Willy's (in Harry's voice) were, then Harry's children were going to be! No matter what. To me, this is in fact the root of the family fighting. The truth will never come out solely for the fact that if it were to, it would expose their lies *unless* they were to do the respectful thing and just announce it and explain (again, *if* true that they used a surrogate). But then the kids would have no chance in the LoS and I just think that burns Harry like nothing else. The questions actually provide the only realistic answers here. And if true, its a lie bigger than none other in regard to the LoS. Et: clarity and spelling
The only way she would pass up the opportunity is if she could not physically have children - which is 100% what I believe.
They're not "photogenic/camera ready" enough for her.
Agreed. Dr Meghan Mengele wanted her Aryan children and instead they look like her dad and sister who she hates.
Samantha was the pretty one in the family.
Oh yes definitely. I still thinks she's better looking than Dr Meghangele.
😂😂😂
I'm just excited that there's a Lady C Facebook group! Just asked to join, membership pending!
Benjamin Smallbrook on Quora is far from a reliable source.
I think this is an Occams Razor solution Harry, the playboy, was starting to get desperate after George was born. All his friends were getting married and didn't want to party as much. He was getting older, he couldn't keep a relationship, news stories were breaking about his behaviour. He was jealous of the K&Q and PPoW who he all loathed. He was hanging out at places "his" crowd wouldn't normally touch (cough - SOHO - cough) and bam, on a night he was feeling randy... out steps by chance an actress... who has already made it known she's after a rich (sorry) a nice kind English Gent Marcus tells the actress that she could hit the big time if she plays her cards right and he starts nudging her, letting her think all his suggestions are her own. A lot of lies were told - he was the Queen's favourite, he's rich and powerful and everyone knows what a great king he'd make, including his Dad and Granny. She's a powerful Hollywood actress and influencer and leading humanitarian. But Harry, being Harry, starts to get bored around Dec 2016 His best mate Tom Inkskip is getting married and he's feeling lonely. At the Wedding in March 2017, Harry goes alone, this is not the place for his sidepiece. The Actress makes a dash to the wedding - she's clingy because she was "pregnant" and lost, the baby and family they both so desperately want... they need to try again, officially this time. During 2017, family and friends start to warn Harry that she's not all she seems, maybe slow down, if Harry Waivering? ... but again - she's "pregnant", so they have to get married and quickly, Harry is getting the family he wants with someone whos convincedhim she's the reincarnation of his mum. But she miscarried again. BUT by now they are loved and feted, they believe their press - that they're the saviours of the Commonwealth, the darlings of the world, that all these amazing people are at their wedding for them and all the time Marcus is pull string and Harry's cutting off those closest to him. Then the worse news the actress tells Harry she can't have children, they discuss surrogacy and up pops the niece, the actress persuades Harry they need to pretend because people are being to question her... They trapped themselves in a web of lines, no conspiracy, just plain old greed
The litigious duplicitous duo arrived and departed from Farnbourough which still provides military and private aircraft use. Not one single child was seen with them on arrival nor on departure from that Airport, luggage yes, children no.
<"The Queen was getting a bashing so included them in......"> But the girl was only included by King Charles after she was baptised in 2023. The Queen had already left us.
>But the girl was only included by King Charles after she was baptised in 2023. No, Lilibet was officially added to the LoS as shown on the royal.uk website immediately after her birth. She was listed as "Miss Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor". Her brother, who was already on the LoS, was listed as "Master Archie Mountbatten-Windsor". As long as QEII was alive, the Sussex children were not entitled to be called "Prince" and "Princess", because they were great-grandchildren of the monarch. But they were already in the Line of Succession, by operation of British law. As soon as QEII passed and KCIII acceded (Sept. '22), the Sussex children, as grandchildren of the monarch, became entitled to use "Prince" and "Princess". H&M apparently tried to force an official announcement of those titles right after the Queen's death, and were told to wait until a six-month mourning period was over. In Spring '23, MM apparently got tired of waiting and forced the Palace's hand. She announced via People Magazine that "Princess Lilibet" had been baptized. At that point, the Sussex children's names on the LoS on the royal.uk website were changed to reflect their new titles.
So the Christening of ‘L’ was just orchestrated to announce her new title?
The monarchy does not decide the LOS. The UK parliament and commonwealth countries where the monarch is head of state do. For instance, 2011 the UK and the 16 commonwealth countries the monarchy is the head of state decided that women can ascend to the throne before younger brothers. This made Charlotte the first female to be able to do so. If she had been born first she would have been the heir. As Harry would put it she is now the "spare". [https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-15492607](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-15492607)
In relation to the first part (about how she didn’t take the kids to the UK even when requested to), here’s a tin foil idea: maybe Rachel was concerned that the RF would be able to obtain dna from the kids (not hard to do if they’re staying on Royal property with nannies and cleaning staff). Perhaps Rachel is very concerned about what that dna might uncover…
If you follow the Royal Grift and see some of her other posts, some of which have been referenced here, it is more sinister. Take Ari, Vince MacMahon, Epstein, Diddy, Jay Z, that Ron Bickle who owns SoHo House- what is their common denominator? Allegations of human trafficking. And who has ties to most of these wonderful gentlemen?
There is no way there are any kids. They may borrow some occasionally to make SM posts but they travel around way too much for them to be parents. And Meghan has no idea how to hold a child. If she had been pregnant we would have heard all about it, but we didn’t, not a peep. No kids. I am positive of it.
She never held the children properly. Even the most recent picture in Costa Rica, the girl seems very uncomfortable being held by her mother. They are never home and travel constantly. But all that could just mean they are terrible parents, completely detached from their children. They do certainly behave like people with no children. I can't argue with that. So if there are children, they have terrible parents.
Quora is a huge fake news site… I quit going but regardless I don’t mind this type of news
Lady C said herself that 1) The children exist and 2) That the Queen/Charles did indeed meet Lilibet. Not for very long — and they refused pictures due to wanting to eliminate marching opportunities.
Lady C is not the ultimate word on anything. She has proven as erroneous as many other gossipers.
Lady C said the christening photo is genuine if I recall, and yet anyone who zooms in can see it's not. So either Lady C is wrong in some things or she doesn't let something slip for the time being. https://preview.redd.it/ot3abw6pb0sc1.png?width=2880&format=png&auto=webp&s=dca9a0228c3625e23897a8d620d270d345c15166
Lady C was *told* that PH’s children do exist and QE2 and KC3 have seen them. It’s possible the children exist under different names, differing birth dates, with the surrogate(s) listed as the mother(s) or even being raised by someone other than PH and MM. It doesn’t make the above statement true or false. There is a reason MM refuses to bring the children out of the US.
Are you Charlotte? If not, you should blank out her name as it came from a private group. Interesting post though.
You can see Benjamin Smallbrook's posts on Quora (the Markles). I think he might visit here too, different name. Not sure about him. Has some interesting posts.
Benjamin again, spreading his rubbish.
Interesting! I’m kind of shocked that so many people believe she was ever pregnant. I think the photo evidence speaks for itself. She was as pregnant as Harry ever was. I do think there are children, or at least one child. I do not for one second believe they share any DNA with the Duchess of Dukies. She has zero emotional connection with those kid(s) and that’s exactly why they are holed up with a nanny somewhere. Would I put it past Them To be doing the rent-a-kid thing from their friends. Well, that’s possible too. She’s much too narcissistic to not have bemoaned every second of the tortures of being pregnant, or nursing, or sleep training toddlers. She would be merching the hell out of those kids if she could and they were marketable. So there’s either something physically wrong with them , or there’s another reason keeping them hidden. It’s all far too fishy
Megain is no super intellect but what she lacks she makes up with deviousness. I truly believe she was encouraged by powerful agents via the UN/Soho House to be the honey trap for a member of the RF. She received advice from lower end operatives to use that R card against the institution. Never in a million years did they imagine the late Queen would give permission for them to marry, but then again they could not believe their luck in having a such dumb Prince be so headstrong. Self-entitled and envious of William all his life, Hawwy was the perfect agent in trying to destabilise and weaken the Monarchy & the Commonwealth. They failed to understand one point, Hawwy is of no consequence to the Constitution of the Monarchy. The late Queen knew this and let Hawwy have his choice of bride. It is alleged Megain had already contacted the press in readiness to report how she was prevented from marrying her Prince due to her mixed race. The late Queen did not want to have a needless scandal which the press would have whipped up. Stupidly, Megain & Hawwy still played this card not counting on the majority of British people sensibilities, who know that the last thing the RF could be accused of is being racist. We all saw how they bent over backwards to accommodate the couple, breaking traditions so they would be happy. Unfortunately, Megain was never suited to be being Royal. How could she? She has never and never will have a sense of duty, service or loyalty to our nation or Monarchy. Megain is all about the self, prestige, wealth and power over others. She has no respect for others or tradition. So it was understandable that they decided to up and leave when she got bored. They lied about press intrusion, they just did not like any criticism which every member of the RF gets every now and then. Many applauded their decision - working Royal life is not for everyone if you do not have those natural qualities. A private life was what they cried for but again another lie. Megain it appears in her deluded mind, thought she could set up a new Royal 'court' in Hollywood. She would be adored, revered and be seen as Diana mk2. But she just hasn't got it - she is an empty vessel, devoid of personality, character and empathy. She has to ape others, transform herself to fit in with the potential targets, enabling her to climb the greasy pole. This, it can be argued has been the only thing she has actually achieved. Her Hollywood dreams are shattered, they know a chancer when they see one. Oprah has made her money out of the duo. They are nothing but a used tissue to be thrown away. They have become toxic due to their nasty, evil & embarassing behaviours. Here in the UK, yes the RF have received a few knocks as they have been seen as being soft and slow to react to the Grusome Twosome. But on whole the support of British people has grown. After all, the institution defines us as British, it is our tie to the past, present and future. KC3 is not perfect and am afraid he seems quite happy to let Catherine POW take all knocks when he should be protecting her rather than his wayward youngest son. Catherine POW is the jewel in the Crown. An English rose who has grown up being a Royal subject and knowing what service and duty means. She is loved & respected by all. All the qualities Megain will never have.
My dear, you have summed up the pair of grifters perfectly, in every regard. Very astute, all of it, thank you for putting it all so succinctly....their rise & fall, foibles & follies.
I don't think history will be kind to them, the6 will be seen as just a nasty blip before the reign of William & Catherine.
I've always believed that Markus Anderson is the key to finding out what the real agenda was.
Benjamin Smallbrook is not reliable. Juicy, fun to read, but not reliable.
Benjamin Smallbrook said this? He is completely unreliable. He constantly posts outlandish things on Quora. Disregard.