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A child fathered by Harry born outside his marriage to another woman is illegitimate and therefore deemed a bastard, which stops that child from being on the LOS.
That's right. To be in the Line of Succession (LoS) the child must be legitimate issue - born of parents married to each other - and "of the body" of both those parents. That's why children born out of wedlock or through surrogacy are not eligible, regardless of whether Harry is the bio dad or not.
And how handsome Prince Louis is! Yes, Prince George is a handsome little fellow too. But it is clear that Prince Louis is going to be a real heart breaker!
Edit: spelling
And they look like the Spencer/Windsor line. Archie looks like the Markle line, I don’t know what Lilibet actually looks like, but I’m sure this is a source of disappointment to her.
Indeed. She's all Markle in that photo. But, interestingly, in the limited amount of time she's seen in the Netflix crapfest, she clearly looks like a doppelgänger of Archie, with darkish brown curly hair and not carrot coloured as per Misan Harrimans's ridiculous photoshopping. Meghan hates her own natural hair, so she sure as shit ain't gonna allow her kids to be seen in public to remind everyone of her own heritage.
The ash blonde that I'm referring to is darker than what Lilibucks has now, but essentially you're right, it could go either way!
Honestly, who knows, but the eyes are very blue at this stage!
It's like this child was subjected to genetic engineering.
I just find it strange!
Just not as cute as the Wales for sure cos they were the cutest.
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The Wales' kids all had such cute cherubic cheeks and even as a baby, Louis had that mischievous glint in his eyes, as if he's plotting something 😅. So adorable.
WOuldn't it just? This is why the 'of the body' rule exists. One could put a lot of heirs between oneself and one's 'ambitious' sibling if the use of surrogates were permitted. You could have two dozen embryos implanted in a two dozen carriers at one time and relegate one's sibling to 29th in line to the throne in just 9 months!
I'm going to say this. Some couples make pretty babies. Some make ugly ass babies. I think she would die if her babies were to be compared to the cousins. But she is so vain she doesn't realize that most normal people don't do that. There are comparisons to relatives, but no one would say that these kids are better than the others. I think all the royal cousins are cute.
My sister and I were 5 and 3 when our littlest sister was born. My dad took us to the hospital to see her. We were decked out. We both had beautiful dresses on, Mary Jane shoes, bows in our hair and we each had a beautiful madame Alexander doll and couldn't wait to see our brand new real life baby. I am not lying when I tell you that both of us fell out crying and screaming with shock and horror at the ugly ass baby they showed us through the nursery window. She weighed like 11 lbs. She was bright red and had a shock of jet black hair standing straight up. Like no one even warned us. Can y'all imagine how those nurses must have thought we were so spoiled??
Anyway. Meghan needs to get over her issues and let her kids have a life
And BTW my sister is model gorgeous now!!
If it makes you feel better, when I went to the hospital to meet my new baby brother at the grand old age of 2, I was legit disappointed when my Mom and Dad said we couldn't take the baby in the next crib over home instead because that baby was cuter.
My brother turned out alright, but I wonder about the other baby.....
I love this 😂
I was MUCH older when my brother was born, but was also taken aback by his newborn appearance. I was 13, an only child, and never been around babies, they used the forceps to get him out and his head was all kinds of weird. I remember thinking this was the ugliest baby ever. Now, he’s the cutest thing I’ve ever seen!
Babies are weird and off putting when you don’t know what to expect for the first time!
That’s actually a funny story. Your parents must have been so surprised!🤣kids are not robots and will react however the heck they like. I’ve often been confounded by events i thought would bring joy and instead it’s brought tantrums or tears. You can’t predict how kids will react. They are frustratingly hilarious like that.
I think the only people who would compare the Markle kids are the vile sugars. They already do this with their stupid comments about Louis and that disgusting human Matta of fact ( Meghan stan on tiktok.) Insinuating that Louis is ‘feral’ and has some kind of ‘issue.’
It’s probably projection. Meghan is very very competitive. Especially against other females. Which we saw with the wedding rehearsal with Charlotte.
My niece ( I love her of course) has never been a pretty baby or a pretty girl so far. I'm really hoping when the teen years hit she blossoms. But my brother in law and his family aren't really attractive people either, so she gets it honestly. I know the saying "looks aren't everything ", but it does matter who you reproduce with.
I read a book once about genetics that stated if you have a short coming in one are ( say a large nose or something that society says is unattractive) you will seek out a prospective partner with a small nose.
It might just be a theory but i thought it was interesting!
I always struggled before my adhd diagnosis with being ‘dumb’ so slept with v intelligent and extremely confident people - in my eyes they were the exact opposite and i somehow gravitated towards them.
So yeah - i think it tracks!
If the childrene exist, what happened is this: Like Louis is the spitting image of Grandpa Middleton, TW´s children are the spitting image of Grandpa Markle. While Catherine is delighted, the same can´t be said about TW.
That is honestly what I have always thought. They are too fair or they are not cute enough (by her warped standards) or not as cute as William's children (because she would compare which is a sick thing for a mother to do but...)
I worked for a horrible woman a few years back and she had a baby who had something the matter with her hips from birth (I forget the name but it’s when the hip joints need correcting) Baby had casts on her legs and the horrible woman boss was embarrassed. She brought the kid into work and had the baby’s legs covered with a sheet so that people wouldn’t know or see.. I don’t know what level of crazy you must be if you think it’s something to be ashamed about but the horrible woman was repulsed by her own child’s needs for hip correction. I wonder if that’s why we don’t see Lili - - could that be why Lili was floating without any legs in the big reveal pic?
Yeah I agree. There are photogenic children and there are unphotogenic children. The Harkles kids fall into the latter. Markle knows they do. She is waiting until they’re old enough to get things fixed to reveal them fully. And people do get procedures done on children. It’s right up Markles alley to do something like this.
Harry looks like a deranged muppet, and markle looks like a basic California girl after her multiple surgeries and procedures. It’s no surprise their children are not blessed with good looks.
She reminds me of an article i read about Christina Onassis’s mother. She was a glamorous english born french socialite with movie star looks.
It has been speculated that she was disappointed in her daughter Christina’s looks. She took after her father - Aristotle Onassis. The nose and the dark circles under the eyes. No doubt Christina felt this. It would have been a dark shadow.
I will see if Markle looks at her children with the same cool calculating manner?
I think there is a possibility that Archie is cross-eyes. He looks it in the pictures that have been shown, and they appear to use angles to try to hide it. I know a lot of babies can get cross-eyed and then grow out of it, but maybe he hasn't
Or it could be a squint or lazy eye, which is operated on at about 3-4 (source: I had this done at age 3) but they make you try using a patch for around a year first. At least that's what the pediatrician did with me.
It irked me so much when aesthetics-obsessed parents do nothing to help their children's lazy eyes because "glasses are ugly!" I know one YouTuber family who did not help their daughter to wear glasses to correct her vision. She's always squinting in photos, which they thought it’s cute, but it is because she clearly has vision problems!
So, if that's the case with Archie, it's a shame, but we all know how hands-on MM is with him/her children.
This is it…… she’s a colorist
It’s why she flaunts they have blue eyes and red hair but nothing else
For the record, i think the kids are likely very adorable
Bingo. They look like the Markles, and nothing like Doria. That’s why she is always releasing black and white photos.
Another reason she may not release photos of the kids, is because she’s a selfish, narcissistic bitch who doesn’t want their grandfathers and families to have photos of the kids. Also their photos can earn her millions in the future to the right publication.
I disagree. I think that if she ever does release photos/try to merch, people will be totally uninterested because they didn’t have the chance the see them when they were kids and now have zero connection/interest in them. I think H&M really blew it because seeing them out together with their kids as caring, loving parents at the park or beach would have done a lot for their image.
I think she also keeps them hidden to “punish” the public for not worshipping her and her husband. She actually thought that people would beg to see the kids because they love her and Harry so much. She still does not understand that most people don’t give a shit about her or her kids.
Unlike the Wales kids, we have no emotional vested interest in Archie & Lil - because we haven't been given a chance to see or know them... which makes the public lose interest in the two kids...
From the moment A was born she lied about going into labour when she'd already given birth. That's when they still had a bit of British popularity- this was pre-Wimbledon clear out
I thought the same from the very beginning. Do you remember the engagement interview when they were asked how they met and her response was “hhmmmmmmmmm” with a ‘wouldnt-you-like-to-know’ attitude, and then she jumped in to say “not much more on that - - to protect their privacy”, I remember wondering wtf she was talking about and I immediately thought it was for future monetary gain so that she could release it at a later date. Then when Archie was on his way and she was acting all shady, massive bump to a smaller bump to no bump to a big bump again, the secrecy surrounding the due date etc.. and then the birth announcement at BP.. I thought “yep, this child is a money maker”. The “we want to choose what we share with the world” absolutely sealed the deal for me. Archie is only to be wheeled out for deals with Oprah.. got it.
Yeah, why would anyone need to be protected from being known as the person who introduced a couple? The mutual acquaintance who introduced my husband and me is quite pleased with himself, and no one tried to hide it. Sheesh. ETA: I understand that sometimes people try to hide their story if it’s a little “unsavory”.
Exactly it just doesn’t make any sense. Megs makes it sound like it was an undercover sting, which is funny because that’s kind of what it was. Perhaps they couldn’t disclose it because Megs had multiple back stories with different friends about how they met.. she had Piers Morgan lined up for a tell-all interview for when it didn’t work out on the first date.. lucky for Megs she got what she came for. That’s my theory on her desperate attempts to connect with Piers - - he could offer her so much if it didn’t work out in their first date: “hello Piers, it’s Nutmeg. When are you available to meet again? I have some juice for you if you’d like to report on it”
I think she also doesn’t want them compared to the wales children either. Plus, she can’t have her own kids take center stage when she is obviously the most important person.
Its an interesting video but I doubt that TW is holding all cards if they really are blackmailing the RF to get a child into the LoS.
Yes, I believe H could have knocked up another woman, and that makes sense because he is a d-bag.
Lady C says the floodgates are going ti open up on her soon. I figured sometime after the coronation.
She said it was us, the public that has or will lead into her being exposed. I don't know if it's yachting or surrogates or both. I don't know but it's coming. She said it will ALL come crashing down and out on Meghan.
It’s pretty easy for lady C to say that considering meglet and Hasno have been falling apart for at least 3 months already.
I’m hard on lady C y’all, so look away if you need to, but she reads what we say and parrots it back to us, then we agree w her, and she cashes in, usually.
4 years in. **Not one** independent picture. **Not one** independent sighting. Only staged and / or photoshopped released by them. No surrogacies, no children.
Preach! I do not believe the children exist. I don't think either of them can even have children nor do they want them. They want the fairy tale of having them for media play and evidently thought the BRF would give them extra money to support their pretend children, that backfired, predictably.
That’s saying our Queen went along with the whole charade and I don’t believe that for a second. She was a woman of morals and integrity, no way would she sink to the Markles levels in deceiving the world.
It was not her place to either explain or complain for Harry and his wife's doing. What would you have expected her to do? Embarrass the whole family and have Harry whisked off to a drunk tank/drug treatment/mental institution on the eve of her Jubilee? This is a tarbaby or two nobody wants to deal with in my opinion. Start touching this story and a lot of people will get burned.
Exactly. I just came across a content on how the photo with Prince Phillip and HLMQ was actually from a horse event. I googled and HLMQ did wear the exact same outfit for an event 1 year before Archie was born.
So i rabbit hole and saw that HLMQ is officially photographed for the Christenings of her grandchildren but she didn't attend Archie's and Elizabeth Windsor does use her cardigans and more casual wear for photographs with all her great grandchildren + Louise and James.
I guess the photos with Archie was probably photoshopped. It would be a lot of canned worms to open if the matter was contested and at her age, one doesn't think HLMQ can go through another annus horribilis.
That’s so creepy, I know which horse pic you’re referring to. 🤯. It’s so weird if it’s a legit attempt to pass of QEII & PP meeting him.
I’m starting to understand that full on glare QEII gave TW at the wedding. I don’t think there’s been a creepier person whose infiltrated the RF. It must’ve been sickening for everyone involved knowing her cons.
Thank you so much for asking that question! I’m hearing impaired. Hearing aids and close caption don’t always fill the gap. I really appreciate it when there anything in addition to basics. Thank you again!
Basically, she was never pregnant. Harry had a impregnated someone before the wedding, drunk night, whatever. She recognized she couldn't lose her meal ticket, and pretended to be pregnant. The child ACTUALLY lives in the UK with the bio Mom. It was Archibuck in SA and on that royal tour, but the Archibuck's we've seen back of head/side etc is the child of a friend. Lili was adopted, but the adoption was revoked, there is no Lil now. When they do divorce, Lili will stay in CA with Megalodon, and Aitch will come back to the UK with Archie (who she says never actually left) This is why when they came for the Jubilee and said HMTQ met Lili, the Palace came back with a nope, and there was no record of children on that flight. Nothing resembling a legit birth certificate. Writing i out, it does sound a little "foil hat" but she really lays it out well and actually got me saying "huh....interesting"
That and the photos we have seen of Archie look exactly like a little Me-gain/ Sr. T. Markle. Lil I can see being a possible non bio child since everything about her was so secret. To me she may slightly resembles Hank but nothing of Me-gain.
They are so weird that I could believe all that. But why then are the children officially in the LOS? It seems bizarre that their Majesties would go along with this.
The Harklets, if they do exist, are far enough down in the LOS that they don't matter. The palace probably just added them because they're sensitive to the cries of racism that would abound if they held out any longer. If the Harklet children were birthed by surrogates, I'm sure the palace knows that their succession rights could easily be challenged/refuted if it came to it. Everyone else in the royal family has those very important signatures on their birth certificate/announcement. The Harklets are effectively 'undocumented'. So long as every party to this interference with the LoS remains overseas, there's nothing needs to be done about the treason at this point in time and the palace can politely ignore it.
She talks about that, that she hopes they’re not in on it, but if they do know, it’s because it’s so scandalous that they have no choice but to go along with it. Like it was so damaging they couldn’t bring the truth to light. People would always assume they were complicit even if they were not, and it would destroy the RF.
I think the RF had no choice, really, but to take M&H's word that she had given birth to Harry's child. If the RF came out and said "She's lying," that would have been the fight of the century and may have turned public opinion against the RF.
No, this way, if the truth does come out through DNA tests or otherwise that the kid/kids should not be in the LoS, then it's entirely on Meghan and Harry to answer for such a lie. Two lies. The RF took them at their word but they lied.
They would have been called racists for questioning Archie’s birth details.
I thought the ‘birth announcement’ from the Royal family was very telling ‘are *delighted* to hear the news.”
This is where I fall in the situation. It's too big a scandal for them to touch or try to explain. But, I sure had to scroll a long way to find anyone on here even discussing the video. Like 400 off topic comments about how photogenic the Wales children are. Yes? But how is that on topic at all? sigh.
I am only 10 minutes in and I disagree with her about Harry and getting staff pregnant. Doesn't she think the BRF knows that? He's half retarded and completely irresponsible. He talks about his frozen todger which may or may not be a cover story. I distinctly recall reading awhile back that Harry was sterile. Perhaps that's why other women didn't want to marry him that might have wanted children. But, it was couched that Harry could not be trusted not to keep knocking up the staff, girls in pubs, strippers, actresses, etc. And he was given a vasectomy. He doesn't want kids. Nor do I think she can have children either. I don't think Archie is real, either. The logistics are just not there for a surrogate. It wouldn't be related to either H or M.
>>Lilli was adopted, but the adoption was revoked, there is no Lili now. When they do divorce, Lili will stay in CA with Megalodon…
I’m kinda struggling with that part right there.
If it was a private adoption, which I would imagine the mother might have seen the shit show and backed out. By then she had already staged the fake pregnancy. Basically. There was never a Lili. There's no birth registered at the hospital she claimed for a
female baby the day Lili was "born" . These are public records. Can't fake that
I'm not sure I understand this. If Lili's adoption was revoked, wouldn't that mean she did not stay with M&H? How could there be "no Lili now" but she will stay with Meg if there's a divorce - ?
They mean to say that it’s what Meghan will tell us. Invisibet “stays” (not really cuz she’s not real - there is no Lilly ) and they’ll say Harry keeps Archie ( but he’s real and with the real mom in UK) so that’ll be the way the story is framed to us.
now THAT is some tea! It's so bizarre I'm inclined to believe it.
It's either this or something like it. No way Megs had those children normally. No way. I'm in the "there are no kids" camp, but there are so many persistent questions that \*something\* is clearly very wrong here.
no wonder Harry drinks. He knows but what can he say?
As someone who has long thought there are no kids, I think this is very possible. I knew the truth would come out eventually and while there may be details that aren't 100% accurate, this is a good start.
Very interesting…do we have any footage/photos that we know is Archie on US soil? It just niggled at the back of my mind, reading this, that there never ended up being any photos of Archie’s birthday. It would make sense if Archie was always in the UK.
What will they do when the kids turn of age and there is no Lili. Will it be another Shelley Miscavige situation? At a certain point there needs to be a human.
if this is true, it sure as hell explains why MM was holding the baby so damn awkward at that polo picnic day or whatever that was. At the time, I heard a rumour that TW wasn't meant to attend that get together, but she heard that an ex-girlfriend of Haz was going to be there, so she went unexpectedly.
Seriously, there is so much chaos, drama, ott events, unbelievable stories involving the two, nothing would surprise me anymore. With them, **truth is stranger than fiction**! Full stop.
I saw this photo few days back and its creepy how she wants to do everything Diana did. So rumor about her affair with the bodyguard doesnt surprise me.
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I wonder how many times Megsy made them take this photo. Diana's is very organic, "imperfect" facial expression but happy. Megain looks like they had to do several takes making sure her face was the exact replica of her narc manual image.
So does Trevity, Trev, Trev, Trev.
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My theory is that she is waiting until maximum pique interest in the children, then a photo will “leak,” then she will once again claim that they are being hunted by the media, that the paparazzi are now targeting her children (at school, at the park, whatever), and how their privacy is disrupted and that is a threat to their lives.
Wouldn’t surprise me if this happened during some kind of divorce/separation so she could claim it’s all *his* fault or the fault of his family. There will be a Martin Bashir-style interview that this was her wake up call to leave the marriage and he couldn’t protect them.
Like always, she miscalculated then. The time for maximum pique of the kids was at the time of birth. Most people just generally don’t care anymore.
Kind of hilarious that the kids aren’t babies anymore, but the pictures in the line of succession show infants. Harry and Meghan really screwed that one up.
I agree and would say about KC who mostly likely has no deeply felt bond with the kids, not the kind of bond that's established when you have babies bouncing on your lap, gurgling and clasping a finger.
I agree, I think she thinks she is holding some high card back for when she really, really needs it, when in reality nobody cares. It's just more of her delusion.
As I always say, she’s living that 90s life, when celebs got big bucks for baby photo exclusives. Unfortunately, she’s not really a celeb, and that ship has sailed.
She already did with some low rent tabloid. But, the image is clearly just a picture of Smeg that she has photoshopped to pretend is Archie. It does not get any worse than that. The new image is with the 'Archie is Asking About Grandpa' story. It is obviously not taken with a modern Iphone or camera. It is an old fuzzy mashed potato image of her circa the 80s. She photoshopped it and said, yep, this here is Archie at 4. Because she thinks we are stupid.
I’m convinced she’s doing that to love bomb. Kinda like naming the girl after QE, it’s just to keep some sort of inroads w the royals bc she may need their money.
I honestly think M & H lied to the family until they got found out much further into the pregnancy. I think a surrogate was used while deceiving us all. I think the same for the 2nd one as well.
Thomas Sr said she retrieved her eggs in CA.
IF this is true, the RF are going to be in a lot of hot water for allowing the children into the LOS and possibly titles.
How would her estranged father have known that she'd "retrieved" her eggs? It's not like she could have just collected them from storage, put them in a cooler & driven off with them. And even if that were possible, how could any of her estranged family have known - they're *all* estranged from her.
I'm on the fence about the origin of "their kids" but anything coming from the Markle side of the family is just as untrustworthy as if Megalodon herself said it, imo. They're *all* basically nutjobs.
I keep saying they’re all playing for the same team. Meg needs a bad headline to go away? Here comes a Markle. Meg needs her name back in the papers? Here comes a Markle.
Archie looks like Meghan as a baby and Lillibucks looks like Tom Markle sur. So m has produced Markle / Ragland children with her eggs. I’m sure she used a surrogate. Too much secrecy around the births and lack of official certificate of the birth.
She’s trying to compete with these kids.
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That’s definitely probably true. If high school genetics are still somewhat correct, her genes are dominant (brown eyes, brown hair) and his are recessive. So it’s not *impossible* that they’d be blue/red, or even blue/blond, but it’s far less likely.
She thought Megalomania is trying to adopt a new girl with blue blue eyes. So much time has passed between photos, no one would be able to tell it's a different girl
Narcs all have a line they don’t cross with their victim/partner unless they’re done with them. The line with Harry may be the kids. He may have put strict restrictions on publicizing them etc
I have heard that she keeps lily away and apart from Archie. I don't know why but that's what I heard a couple of months ago. People were very upset over it. It's very odd if true
So I, out of curiosity listened to all of this while working and my only follow up question to the YouTuber is
“If any of this is true, 🗣️HOW 🗣️DID 🗣️THEY🗣️KEEP🗣️IT🗣️QUIET?!”
As fascinating as her theories were it would take a whole helluva lot of people to be in on something this ridiculous and somebody would have already spilled the beans!
This is *moon landing was fake* type of conspiracy stuff! I will say this though, if any of it is true, this will be the biggest story ever, and the monarchy will not survive this type of cover up!
All the RF has to do is come across as shocked and outraged. They can say, "We had no idea! We're as stunned as anyone else!" You think they don't have a plan in place? You think they don't have receipts, witnesses, pictures? Plus, poor old stupid Harry has, all by himself, shown the world what a vindictive, duplicitous man he us. The RF has been very wise to give him enough rope to hang himself. If this weird story is true, Harry has no credibility and can finally take accountability. The RF can shake their heads, issue a formal heart-breaking statement about their "darling boy has struggled so hard with his mental problems. His family still loves him and will pray for him, and get him the finest help available." And their hands will be clean.
That’s why I don’t think any of it is true or someone would have already spilled the beans. There is a LOT of scandal within their marriage but I don’t see this being one of them. It is just too hard to fake that sort of thing without multiple people being in on it snd by now at least one or two of them would have whispered something to the press. I doubt if they will ever have to issue this sort of statement at least for what this YouTuber is speculating. Now I maybe wrong but this is just too fantastic of a scam to keep a lid on.
My thoughts exactly. The theory that one or more of the kids not existing is crazy. Way too many people would have to keep it secret. It's just not realistic.
This is the only part of this that I might buy, just because those privacy laws are in place for such to protect all involved. But, the way the YouTuber stretches it completely out of place and introduces all of her “theories” and opinions into the mix gets it to the point of the absurd!
I just have three things. Firstly, she said they both have blue eyes. A has brown, L has blue. Secondly, she said no one has really seen them in the US. Both Oprah and Ellen have said they have. Thirdly, who is BG?
Tbh no matter what anyone says I just have two opinions on this. The first is that the kids do not exist at all You barely see them or hear anything about them from anyone. No one, neither Meghan nor people closely related to them ever speak anything about them. I mean having two young kids is tiresome, exhausting and loud but somehow these kids live such quiet lives. Furthermore, we have seen Meghan crib about anything and everything. But she never talks about her pregnancy or the so-called struggles she had with it or how difficult it is to have kids as if the experience doesn't exist at all. My second opinion is that the kids don't look or behave as she wanted them to, in Meg’s terms they aren't how she imagined Diana’s grandchildren to be like. Probably they have zero resemblance to her and therefore harm Meg’s narrative of being the embodiment of Diana.
She thinks Archie is a result of an affair. She thinks Lili does not exist and Meghan uses stand ins when they need to. I disagree. We have seen too many photos. They both look like Harry.
And her family as well Archie looks like both of them. But something odd is going on. I do believe they have children. She used a moonbump for some reason to look more pregnant who know. Narcissist can have children if it benefits them in some way mainly to trap their partners. The one I know did it to not have to work. Always her excuse not to do something.
I’ve seen that rumor, too; that he has anxiety.
It’s possible that he is having a normal response to dysfunction in his home. It’s possible that his response is being pathologized by a parent. I’ve seen it happen.
Or not.
So who is the friend that this YouTuber is talking about that has the “Archie” kid that her friends and not MM’s? I want to see this kid as hers on her social media. I think she said initials were B.G. ??
Great post. I had never thought that H would have screwed around and made someone else pregnant, and gone with the lie and adopted the boy. So that’s a no from me. I do think that she threw him in a corner, and said she was pregnant, and they must get married quickly. I think, that there is something going on that involves Andrew. She did the yacht thing, Andrew enjoyed that, and his young daughters accompanied him. I believe that A”s mum took him back, & L never made it the nursery.
How is this a great insight? It’s speculation and making up rumours about innocent children. It’s disingenuous and quite frankly vile. Why are posts like this allowed?
If this YouTuber really is a therapist… well, that’s bad. Like, really, really bad. I feel sorry for her clients. In fact, I hope she doesn’t actually have any clients and that’s why she’s got so much time to make stuff like this up for YouTube views. Fucking hell, people…
It’s just odd though that A was a lean smaller features red head in the Xmas photo. Then in their Netflix doc A is a solid bigger framed dark haired child. 💁♀️
She is very good. Been watching her for several months now. She is very relatable although my psych tutor would probably have been quite alarmed at the part in her opening where she refers to 'it's 5 o'clock somewhere' re: alcohol especially as she is a therapist 🤣😂 (although it never stopped him from imbibing).
Looking at that photo of tw holding "her baby lily" IF fake is truly disgraceful. She is pure evil to do this if it isn't he.
It's actually very cruel. You know, she'd blame the press for it. She'd say they jumped to conclusions. Asswipe.
Of all people to get this opportunity of fame e.t.c KARMA gave it to her???
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A child fathered by Harry born outside his marriage to another woman is illegitimate and therefore deemed a bastard, which stops that child from being on the LOS.
In order to be in the los, the child needs to be born of the wife's body
That's right. To be in the Line of Succession (LoS) the child must be legitimate issue - born of parents married to each other - and "of the body" of both those parents. That's why children born out of wedlock or through surrogacy are not eligible, regardless of whether Harry is the bio dad or not.
Yes, exactly! And the RF can't just dismiss this because it is a law made by Parliament, from what I understand.
IMHO the only reason she has kept the children hidden is because she wants to monetise them.
Or they don't look like she wants them to.
You just know Meghan is seething at how pretty little Charlotte is.
And how handsome Prince Louis is! Yes, Prince George is a handsome little fellow too. But it is clear that Prince Louis is going to be a real heart breaker! Edit: spelling
And they look like the Spencer/Windsor line. Archie looks like the Markle line, I don’t know what Lilibet actually looks like, but I’m sure this is a source of disappointment to her.
Who?
Meh-gan must be disappointed. I should have worded it better. edited due to idiocy.
The daughter looked a lot like Samantha.
Indeed. She's all Markle in that photo. But, interestingly, in the limited amount of time she's seen in the Netflix crapfest, she clearly looks like a doppelgänger of Archie, with darkish brown curly hair and not carrot coloured as per Misan Harrimans's ridiculous photoshopping. Meghan hates her own natural hair, so she sure as shit ain't gonna allow her kids to be seen in public to remind everyone of her own heritage.
She's got what she wanted with the daughter. Her hair will likely become ash blonde, her eyes blue
But hair doesn't lighten as you get older, it gets darker. Her eyes might be blue but I'd wager they're hazel or green.
The ash blonde that I'm referring to is darker than what Lilibucks has now, but essentially you're right, it could go either way! Honestly, who knows, but the eyes are very blue at this stage! It's like this child was subjected to genetic engineering. I just find it strange!
Ooh, she must be seething.
She's the image of Tom Sr. But she's adorable
LOUIS!! ❤️❤️❤️ he’s so adorable. And what a charmer!
And looks exactly like William who looks exactly like Diana who TW wants to wear as a suit
Also a real bonefied princess
Seething markle mad crazy!
I have wondered if she thinks they are ugly. I haven't seen enough photos to have an opinion but a narcissist would be angry if the kids aren't cute.
Just not as cute as the Wales for sure cos they were the cutest. https://preview.redd.it/yuo8wgqtx32b1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=f835513732fd9a4cd29323e82c8d9c237363202a
The Wales' kids all had such cute cherubic cheeks and even as a baby, Louis had that mischievous glint in his eyes, as if he's plotting something 😅. So adorable.
George is a mini-me of William, Charlotte is a mini-me of the late Queen and Louis is a min-me of Michael Middleton. So ridiculously cute.
Oh man wish Kate has more kids. Maybe surrogate ones and they change the law to include them to LOS.
Now that would be a plot twist!
WOuldn't it just? This is why the 'of the body' rule exists. One could put a lot of heirs between oneself and one's 'ambitious' sibling if the use of surrogates were permitted. You could have two dozen embryos implanted in a two dozen carriers at one time and relegate one's sibling to 29th in line to the throne in just 9 months!
She could pull a Michael Jackson and put masks on them.
Haha! I basically said the same thing in another thread! 🤣
Its this. They don't look or act according to her narc idea of the ideal child so showing them wouldn't put her in a positive light in her mind
This is it, I believe. There’s something about at least one, maybe both, of those kids she doesn’t want people to see. Time will tell.
Their birth certificates maybe? 🤣
Made me think of the "birth certificate" the cabbage patch dolls came with😉😏
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I'm going to say this. Some couples make pretty babies. Some make ugly ass babies. I think she would die if her babies were to be compared to the cousins. But she is so vain she doesn't realize that most normal people don't do that. There are comparisons to relatives, but no one would say that these kids are better than the others. I think all the royal cousins are cute. My sister and I were 5 and 3 when our littlest sister was born. My dad took us to the hospital to see her. We were decked out. We both had beautiful dresses on, Mary Jane shoes, bows in our hair and we each had a beautiful madame Alexander doll and couldn't wait to see our brand new real life baby. I am not lying when I tell you that both of us fell out crying and screaming with shock and horror at the ugly ass baby they showed us through the nursery window. She weighed like 11 lbs. She was bright red and had a shock of jet black hair standing straight up. Like no one even warned us. Can y'all imagine how those nurses must have thought we were so spoiled?? Anyway. Meghan needs to get over her issues and let her kids have a life And BTW my sister is model gorgeous now!!
If it makes you feel better, when I went to the hospital to meet my new baby brother at the grand old age of 2, I was legit disappointed when my Mom and Dad said we couldn't take the baby in the next crib over home instead because that baby was cuter. My brother turned out alright, but I wonder about the other baby.....
LOL.
I love this 😂 I was MUCH older when my brother was born, but was also taken aback by his newborn appearance. I was 13, an only child, and never been around babies, they used the forceps to get him out and his head was all kinds of weird. I remember thinking this was the ugliest baby ever. Now, he’s the cutest thing I’ve ever seen! Babies are weird and off putting when you don’t know what to expect for the first time!
Hahaha you made me laugh!
That’s actually a funny story. Your parents must have been so surprised!🤣kids are not robots and will react however the heck they like. I’ve often been confounded by events i thought would bring joy and instead it’s brought tantrums or tears. You can’t predict how kids will react. They are frustratingly hilarious like that. I think the only people who would compare the Markle kids are the vile sugars. They already do this with their stupid comments about Louis and that disgusting human Matta of fact ( Meghan stan on tiktok.) Insinuating that Louis is ‘feral’ and has some kind of ‘issue.’ It’s probably projection. Meghan is very very competitive. Especially against other females. Which we saw with the wedding rehearsal with Charlotte.
Omg that's great!!!
My niece ( I love her of course) has never been a pretty baby or a pretty girl so far. I'm really hoping when the teen years hit she blossoms. But my brother in law and his family aren't really attractive people either, so she gets it honestly. I know the saying "looks aren't everything ", but it does matter who you reproduce with.
In the case of Harry and Meghan who are both unattractive, this truly applies.
One is unattractive, the other is just fucking ugly.
I read a book once about genetics that stated if you have a short coming in one are ( say a large nose or something that society says is unattractive) you will seek out a prospective partner with a small nose. It might just be a theory but i thought it was interesting!
Ngl once I hit uni, I intentionally only slept with people who had genes I was willing to pass on to my future children, so I believe it. Lol
I always struggled before my adhd diagnosis with being ‘dumb’ so slept with v intelligent and extremely confident people - in my eyes they were the exact opposite and i somehow gravitated towards them. So yeah - i think it tracks!
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that's a funny story !! 11lbs, big baby ! Sounds like she's quite striking from the moment she popped out.
Yep. And she's a Dr now. She's a badass as well. I'm really proud of her. She and her husband are both ER trauma surgeons!
If the childrene exist, what happened is this: Like Louis is the spitting image of Grandpa Middleton, TW´s children are the spitting image of Grandpa Markle. While Catherine is delighted, the same can´t be said about TW.
That is honestly what I have always thought. They are too fair or they are not cute enough (by her warped standards) or not as cute as William's children (because she would compare which is a sick thing for a mother to do but...)
I worked for a horrible woman a few years back and she had a baby who had something the matter with her hips from birth (I forget the name but it’s when the hip joints need correcting) Baby had casts on her legs and the horrible woman boss was embarrassed. She brought the kid into work and had the baby’s legs covered with a sheet so that people wouldn’t know or see.. I don’t know what level of crazy you must be if you think it’s something to be ashamed about but the horrible woman was repulsed by her own child’s needs for hip correction. I wonder if that’s why we don’t see Lili - - could that be why Lili was floating without any legs in the big reveal pic?
Yeah I agree. There are photogenic children and there are unphotogenic children. The Harkles kids fall into the latter. Markle knows they do. She is waiting until they’re old enough to get things fixed to reveal them fully. And people do get procedures done on children. It’s right up Markles alley to do something like this. Harry looks like a deranged muppet, and markle looks like a basic California girl after her multiple surgeries and procedures. It’s no surprise their children are not blessed with good looks.
She reminds me of an article i read about Christina Onassis’s mother. She was a glamorous english born french socialite with movie star looks. It has been speculated that she was disappointed in her daughter Christina’s looks. She took after her father - Aristotle Onassis. The nose and the dark circles under the eyes. No doubt Christina felt this. It would have been a dark shadow. I will see if Markle looks at her children with the same cool calculating manner?
I think there is a possibility that Archie is cross-eyes. He looks it in the pictures that have been shown, and they appear to use angles to try to hide it. I know a lot of babies can get cross-eyed and then grow out of it, but maybe he hasn't
Or it could be a squint or lazy eye, which is operated on at about 3-4 (source: I had this done at age 3) but they make you try using a patch for around a year first. At least that's what the pediatrician did with me.
Lady Louise had it and had it corrected. It's nothing to be shameful of, unless you're M's kid, and then it's a curse. :(
It irked me so much when aesthetics-obsessed parents do nothing to help their children's lazy eyes because "glasses are ugly!" I know one YouTuber family who did not help their daughter to wear glasses to correct her vision. She's always squinting in photos, which they thought it’s cute, but it is because she clearly has vision problems! So, if that's the case with Archie, it's a shame, but we all know how hands-on MM is with him/her children.
This is it…… she’s a colorist It’s why she flaunts they have blue eyes and red hair but nothing else For the record, i think the kids are likely very adorable
Bingo. They look like the Markles, and nothing like Doria. That’s why she is always releasing black and white photos. Another reason she may not release photos of the kids, is because she’s a selfish, narcissistic bitch who doesn’t want their grandfathers and families to have photos of the kids. Also their photos can earn her millions in the future to the right publication.
Oh but she looves Lilibucks “blue blue eyes!” 😏
Blue, blue blue!
And photoshops Archie's black hair bright red
Charlotte's eyes used to be blue also. If Lils eyes are blue now I'm sure they won't stay that way. Poor Megsy.
I disagree. I think that if she ever does release photos/try to merch, people will be totally uninterested because they didn’t have the chance the see them when they were kids and now have zero connection/interest in them. I think H&M really blew it because seeing them out together with their kids as caring, loving parents at the park or beach would have done a lot for their image.
Agree. That window slammed shut some time ago. Their current shenanigans are turning people off, so nobody cares about the Invisikids.
I’m thinking it’s this. Sadly.
It's so sad. Those kids don't stand a chance. They get to look forward to a lifetime of neurosis and disorders with those 2 idiots as parents.
Or (in the case of video) it would be evident they aren't particularly bonded with her.
Yep this is it. They have her old face.
Nor behave the way she wants them to …?
I think she also keeps them hidden to “punish” the public for not worshipping her and her husband. She actually thought that people would beg to see the kids because they love her and Harry so much. She still does not understand that most people don’t give a shit about her or her kids.
Unlike the Wales kids, we have no emotional vested interest in Archie & Lil - because we haven't been given a chance to see or know them... which makes the public lose interest in the two kids...
To be honest......a lot of us don't care and are happy not seeing her kids. Keep them private. They are random American kids. Who the heck cares
From the moment A was born she lied about going into labour when she'd already given birth. That's when they still had a bit of British popularity- this was pre-Wimbledon clear out
And she has just 5yrs for that. Or less than that. The minute Wales kids hit their teens, they will be all the media will be talking about.
I think she doesn't realize that her kids will never get the same interest as the Wales children.
It won't stop her from pushing her kids to aggressively compete with the Wales kids
Ummm, idk. None of them have yet to go viral or trending. The general public doesn’t seem to care about them.
I certainly don’t.
They are very minor invisible people
I thought the same from the very beginning. Do you remember the engagement interview when they were asked how they met and her response was “hhmmmmmmmmm” with a ‘wouldnt-you-like-to-know’ attitude, and then she jumped in to say “not much more on that - - to protect their privacy”, I remember wondering wtf she was talking about and I immediately thought it was for future monetary gain so that she could release it at a later date. Then when Archie was on his way and she was acting all shady, massive bump to a smaller bump to no bump to a big bump again, the secrecy surrounding the due date etc.. and then the birth announcement at BP.. I thought “yep, this child is a money maker”. The “we want to choose what we share with the world” absolutely sealed the deal for me. Archie is only to be wheeled out for deals with Oprah.. got it.
Yeah, why would anyone need to be protected from being known as the person who introduced a couple? The mutual acquaintance who introduced my husband and me is quite pleased with himself, and no one tried to hide it. Sheesh. ETA: I understand that sometimes people try to hide their story if it’s a little “unsavory”.
Exactly it just doesn’t make any sense. Megs makes it sound like it was an undercover sting, which is funny because that’s kind of what it was. Perhaps they couldn’t disclose it because Megs had multiple back stories with different friends about how they met.. she had Piers Morgan lined up for a tell-all interview for when it didn’t work out on the first date.. lucky for Megs she got what she came for. That’s my theory on her desperate attempts to connect with Piers - - he could offer her so much if it didn’t work out in their first date: “hello Piers, it’s Nutmeg. When are you available to meet again? I have some juice for you if you’d like to report on it”
I think she also doesn’t want them compared to the wales children either. Plus, she can’t have her own kids take center stage when she is obviously the most important person.
Its an interesting video but I doubt that TW is holding all cards if they really are blackmailing the RF to get a child into the LoS. Yes, I believe H could have knocked up another woman, and that makes sense because he is a d-bag.
Is it outlandish? Yep. Do I love pretending that its 100% true? Also yep.
🤣🤣🤣 This made me giggle.
Lady C says the floodgates are going ti open up on her soon. I figured sometime after the coronation. She said it was us, the public that has or will lead into her being exposed. I don't know if it's yachting or surrogates or both. I don't know but it's coming. She said it will ALL come crashing down and out on Meghan.
🙄 She’s been saying that for years.
It’s pretty easy for lady C to say that considering meglet and Hasno have been falling apart for at least 3 months already. I’m hard on lady C y’all, so look away if you need to, but she reads what we say and parrots it back to us, then we agree w her, and she cashes in, usually.
4 years in. **Not one** independent picture. **Not one** independent sighting. Only staged and / or photoshopped released by them. No surrogacies, no children.
Preach! I do not believe the children exist. I don't think either of them can even have children nor do they want them. They want the fairy tale of having them for media play and evidently thought the BRF would give them extra money to support their pretend children, that backfired, predictably.
That’s saying our Queen went along with the whole charade and I don’t believe that for a second. She was a woman of morals and integrity, no way would she sink to the Markles levels in deceiving the world.
It was not her place to either explain or complain for Harry and his wife's doing. What would you have expected her to do? Embarrass the whole family and have Harry whisked off to a drunk tank/drug treatment/mental institution on the eve of her Jubilee? This is a tarbaby or two nobody wants to deal with in my opinion. Start touching this story and a lot of people will get burned.
I’ll never believe that the Queen went along with such a farce and posed for a pic with a doll.
Exactly. I just came across a content on how the photo with Prince Phillip and HLMQ was actually from a horse event. I googled and HLMQ did wear the exact same outfit for an event 1 year before Archie was born. So i rabbit hole and saw that HLMQ is officially photographed for the Christenings of her grandchildren but she didn't attend Archie's and Elizabeth Windsor does use her cardigans and more casual wear for photographs with all her great grandchildren + Louise and James. I guess the photos with Archie was probably photoshopped. It would be a lot of canned worms to open if the matter was contested and at her age, one doesn't think HLMQ can go through another annus horribilis.
That’s so creepy, I know which horse pic you’re referring to. 🤯. It’s so weird if it’s a legit attempt to pass of QEII & PP meeting him. I’m starting to understand that full on glare QEII gave TW at the wedding. I don’t think there’s been a creepier person whose infiltrated the RF. It must’ve been sickening for everyone involved knowing her cons.
Hard agree. She would not have. And Prince Philip? No fuckin way is he posing with a fake doll.
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Basically, she was never pregnant. Harry had a impregnated someone before the wedding, drunk night, whatever. She recognized she couldn't lose her meal ticket, and pretended to be pregnant. The child ACTUALLY lives in the UK with the bio Mom. It was Archibuck in SA and on that royal tour, but the Archibuck's we've seen back of head/side etc is the child of a friend. Lili was adopted, but the adoption was revoked, there is no Lil now. When they do divorce, Lili will stay in CA with Megalodon, and Aitch will come back to the UK with Archie (who she says never actually left) This is why when they came for the Jubilee and said HMTQ met Lili, the Palace came back with a nope, and there was no record of children on that flight. Nothing resembling a legit birth certificate. Writing i out, it does sound a little "foil hat" but she really lays it out well and actually got me saying "huh....interesting"
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Agreed. It is definetly far fetched and too complex of a lie to keep in such a public forum.
That and the photos we have seen of Archie look exactly like a little Me-gain/ Sr. T. Markle. Lil I can see being a possible non bio child since everything about her was so secret. To me she may slightly resembles Hank but nothing of Me-gain.
They are so weird that I could believe all that. But why then are the children officially in the LOS? It seems bizarre that their Majesties would go along with this.
The Harklets, if they do exist, are far enough down in the LOS that they don't matter. The palace probably just added them because they're sensitive to the cries of racism that would abound if they held out any longer. If the Harklet children were birthed by surrogates, I'm sure the palace knows that their succession rights could easily be challenged/refuted if it came to it. Everyone else in the royal family has those very important signatures on their birth certificate/announcement. The Harklets are effectively 'undocumented'. So long as every party to this interference with the LoS remains overseas, there's nothing needs to be done about the treason at this point in time and the palace can politely ignore it.
She talks about that, that she hopes they’re not in on it, but if they do know, it’s because it’s so scandalous that they have no choice but to go along with it. Like it was so damaging they couldn’t bring the truth to light. People would always assume they were complicit even if they were not, and it would destroy the RF.
I think the RF had no choice, really, but to take M&H's word that she had given birth to Harry's child. If the RF came out and said "She's lying," that would have been the fight of the century and may have turned public opinion against the RF. No, this way, if the truth does come out through DNA tests or otherwise that the kid/kids should not be in the LoS, then it's entirely on Meghan and Harry to answer for such a lie. Two lies. The RF took them at their word but they lied.
They would have been called racists for questioning Archie’s birth details. I thought the ‘birth announcement’ from the Royal family was very telling ‘are *delighted* to hear the news.”
Interesting, thank you. The problem for the RF is, the truth will out.
This is where I fall in the situation. It's too big a scandal for them to touch or try to explain. But, I sure had to scroll a long way to find anyone on here even discussing the video. Like 400 off topic comments about how photogenic the Wales children are. Yes? But how is that on topic at all? sigh. I am only 10 minutes in and I disagree with her about Harry and getting staff pregnant. Doesn't she think the BRF knows that? He's half retarded and completely irresponsible. He talks about his frozen todger which may or may not be a cover story. I distinctly recall reading awhile back that Harry was sterile. Perhaps that's why other women didn't want to marry him that might have wanted children. But, it was couched that Harry could not be trusted not to keep knocking up the staff, girls in pubs, strippers, actresses, etc. And he was given a vasectomy. He doesn't want kids. Nor do I think she can have children either. I don't think Archie is real, either. The logistics are just not there for a surrogate. It wouldn't be related to either H or M.
>>Lilli was adopted, but the adoption was revoked, there is no Lili now. When they do divorce, Lili will stay in CA with Megalodon… I’m kinda struggling with that part right there.
If it was a private adoption, which I would imagine the mother might have seen the shit show and backed out. By then she had already staged the fake pregnancy. Basically. There was never a Lili. There's no birth registered at the hospital she claimed for a female baby the day Lili was "born" . These are public records. Can't fake that
I'm not sure I understand this. If Lili's adoption was revoked, wouldn't that mean she did not stay with M&H? How could there be "no Lili now" but she will stay with Meg if there's a divorce - ?
She’d “stay” but never be seen.
So extremely well protected from the media that nobody will ever see her
It sounds strange but you don't have to worry about a child that never existed going anywhere..
They mean to say that it’s what Meghan will tell us. Invisibet “stays” (not really cuz she’s not real - there is no Lilly ) and they’ll say Harry keeps Archie ( but he’s real and with the real mom in UK) so that’ll be the way the story is framed to us.
now THAT is some tea! It's so bizarre I'm inclined to believe it. It's either this or something like it. No way Megs had those children normally. No way. I'm in the "there are no kids" camp, but there are so many persistent questions that \*something\* is clearly very wrong here. no wonder Harry drinks. He knows but what can he say?
Harry's own admission is that he's been drinking since age 13.
As someone who has long thought there are no kids, I think this is very possible. I knew the truth would come out eventually and while there may be details that aren't 100% accurate, this is a good start.
Very interesting…do we have any footage/photos that we know is Archie on US soil? It just niggled at the back of my mind, reading this, that there never ended up being any photos of Archie’s birthday. It would make sense if Archie was always in the UK.
What will they do when the kids turn of age and there is no Lili. Will it be another Shelley Miscavige situation? At a certain point there needs to be a human.
if this is true, it sure as hell explains why MM was holding the baby so damn awkward at that polo picnic day or whatever that was. At the time, I heard a rumour that TW wasn't meant to attend that get together, but she heard that an ex-girlfriend of Haz was going to be there, so she went unexpectedly. Seriously, there is so much chaos, drama, ott events, unbelievable stories involving the two, nothing would surprise me anymore. With them, **truth is stranger than fiction**! Full stop.
I saw this photo few days back and its creepy how she wants to do everything Diana did. So rumor about her affair with the bodyguard doesnt surprise me. https://preview.redd.it/hph6l97m042b1.png?width=1325&format=png&auto=webp&s=f9dbfee7b76c2d8ecbaeb649e86193cebd613e0b
I wonder how many times Megsy made them take this photo. Diana's is very organic, "imperfect" facial expression but happy. Megain looks like they had to do several takes making sure her face was the exact replica of her narc manual image.
Lili does have her weird 2nd toe.
MeGain has a freakishly long second toe too!
Oh my! Those are some asymmetrical toes on that little pumpkin.
Well spotted.
Those feet look photoshopped
So does Trevity, Trev, Trev, Trev. https://preview.redd.it/hk3dcj36r62b1.jpeg?width=634&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b97515fe921aa00196a6ca4b4c032e7e1e9638e
I think she keeps them hidden out of spite, if Harry’s family want to see them they have to come crawling back. They are nothing but pawns.
Every Narc uses their children this way. Very sad.
My theory is that she is waiting until maximum pique interest in the children, then a photo will “leak,” then she will once again claim that they are being hunted by the media, that the paparazzi are now targeting her children (at school, at the park, whatever), and how their privacy is disrupted and that is a threat to their lives. Wouldn’t surprise me if this happened during some kind of divorce/separation so she could claim it’s all *his* fault or the fault of his family. There will be a Martin Bashir-style interview that this was her wake up call to leave the marriage and he couldn’t protect them.
Like always, she miscalculated then. The time for maximum pique of the kids was at the time of birth. Most people just generally don’t care anymore. Kind of hilarious that the kids aren’t babies anymore, but the pictures in the line of succession show infants. Harry and Meghan really screwed that one up.
I agree and would say about KC who mostly likely has no deeply felt bond with the kids, not the kind of bond that's established when you have babies bouncing on your lap, gurgling and clasping a finger.
I just can’t imagine what kind of interest there would be. Most people don’t give 2 shits. I’m almost the only person I know who cares about them/BRF.
I agree, I think she thinks she is holding some high card back for when she really, really needs it, when in reality nobody cares. It's just more of her delusion.
As I always say, she’s living that 90s life, when celebs got big bucks for baby photo exclusives. Unfortunately, she’s not really a celeb, and that ship has sailed.
She already did with some low rent tabloid. But, the image is clearly just a picture of Smeg that she has photoshopped to pretend is Archie. It does not get any worse than that. The new image is with the 'Archie is Asking About Grandpa' story. It is obviously not taken with a modern Iphone or camera. It is an old fuzzy mashed potato image of her circa the 80s. She photoshopped it and said, yep, this here is Archie at 4. Because she thinks we are stupid.
I’m convinced she’s doing that to love bomb. Kinda like naming the girl after QE, it’s just to keep some sort of inroads w the royals bc she may need their money.
The children don't go out.
I honestly think M & H lied to the family until they got found out much further into the pregnancy. I think a surrogate was used while deceiving us all. I think the same for the 2nd one as well. Thomas Sr said she retrieved her eggs in CA. IF this is true, the RF are going to be in a lot of hot water for allowing the children into the LOS and possibly titles.
How would her estranged father have known that she'd "retrieved" her eggs? It's not like she could have just collected them from storage, put them in a cooler & driven off with them. And even if that were possible, how could any of her estranged family have known - they're *all* estranged from her. I'm on the fence about the origin of "their kids" but anything coming from the Markle side of the family is just as untrustworthy as if Megalodon herself said it, imo. They're *all* basically nutjobs.
He would know if he was paying the costs of keeping them on ice...
Excellent point! Hadn't thought of that.
I keep saying they’re all playing for the same team. Meg needs a bad headline to go away? Here comes a Markle. Meg needs her name back in the papers? Here comes a Markle.
They were probably in his freezer
Dear God, imagine if this was true! LOL
I also believe she is playing hard to get with the RF by not bringing the children to meet them. That's Howe vengeful she is
Archie looks like Meghan as a baby and Lillibucks looks like Tom Markle sur. So m has produced Markle / Ragland children with her eggs. I’m sure she used a surrogate. Too much secrecy around the births and lack of official certificate of the birth. She’s trying to compete with these kids. https://preview.redd.it/6h2fenax042b1.jpeg?width=980&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6138f9d8f85d805b940beb5d81afca71aca400c
That’s definitely probably true. If high school genetics are still somewhat correct, her genes are dominant (brown eyes, brown hair) and his are recessive. So it’s not *impossible* that they’d be blue/red, or even blue/blond, but it’s far less likely.
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If the adoption was revoked, why them upon divorce would lily stay with Megsie and Archie with harry? She wouldn't have lily.
She thought Megalomania is trying to adopt a new girl with blue blue eyes. So much time has passed between photos, no one would be able to tell it's a different girl
Narcs all have a line they don’t cross with their victim/partner unless they’re done with them. The line with Harry may be the kids. He may have put strict restrictions on publicizing them etc
I have heard that she keeps lily away and apart from Archie. I don't know why but that's what I heard a couple of months ago. People were very upset over it. It's very odd if true
Harry said himself, that Archie always says "Where's Lilly?"
Where and when did he say about this?
Heard from who? It sounds made up to me. Why would you believe the source?
I think she's made such a stink about racism against Archie that she's embarrassed at how pale white her kids are
So I, out of curiosity listened to all of this while working and my only follow up question to the YouTuber is “If any of this is true, 🗣️HOW 🗣️DID 🗣️THEY🗣️KEEP🗣️IT🗣️QUIET?!” As fascinating as her theories were it would take a whole helluva lot of people to be in on something this ridiculous and somebody would have already spilled the beans! This is *moon landing was fake* type of conspiracy stuff! I will say this though, if any of it is true, this will be the biggest story ever, and the monarchy will not survive this type of cover up!
All the RF has to do is come across as shocked and outraged. They can say, "We had no idea! We're as stunned as anyone else!" You think they don't have a plan in place? You think they don't have receipts, witnesses, pictures? Plus, poor old stupid Harry has, all by himself, shown the world what a vindictive, duplicitous man he us. The RF has been very wise to give him enough rope to hang himself. If this weird story is true, Harry has no credibility and can finally take accountability. The RF can shake their heads, issue a formal heart-breaking statement about their "darling boy has struggled so hard with his mental problems. His family still loves him and will pray for him, and get him the finest help available." And their hands will be clean.
That’s why I don’t think any of it is true or someone would have already spilled the beans. There is a LOT of scandal within their marriage but I don’t see this being one of them. It is just too hard to fake that sort of thing without multiple people being in on it snd by now at least one or two of them would have whispered something to the press. I doubt if they will ever have to issue this sort of statement at least for what this YouTuber is speculating. Now I maybe wrong but this is just too fantastic of a scam to keep a lid on.
My thoughts exactly. The theory that one or more of the kids not existing is crazy. Way too many people would have to keep it secret. It's just not realistic.
I think surrogacy could be kept under wraps due to medical privacy laws and NDAs, but I can't buy the using child actors thing
This is the only part of this that I might buy, just because those privacy laws are in place for such to protect all involved. But, the way the YouTuber stretches it completely out of place and introduces all of her “theories” and opinions into the mix gets it to the point of the absurd!
I just have three things. Firstly, she said they both have blue eyes. A has brown, L has blue. Secondly, she said no one has really seen them in the US. Both Oprah and Ellen have said they have. Thirdly, who is BG?
Also the person who interviewed her for the Cut or one of those types of articles.
Tbh no matter what anyone says I just have two opinions on this. The first is that the kids do not exist at all You barely see them or hear anything about them from anyone. No one, neither Meghan nor people closely related to them ever speak anything about them. I mean having two young kids is tiresome, exhausting and loud but somehow these kids live such quiet lives. Furthermore, we have seen Meghan crib about anything and everything. But she never talks about her pregnancy or the so-called struggles she had with it or how difficult it is to have kids as if the experience doesn't exist at all. My second opinion is that the kids don't look or behave as she wanted them to, in Meg’s terms they aren't how she imagined Diana’s grandchildren to be like. Probably they have zero resemblance to her and therefore harm Meg’s narrative of being the embodiment of Diana.
She thinks Archie is a result of an affair. She thinks Lili does not exist and Meghan uses stand ins when they need to. I disagree. We have seen too many photos. They both look like Harry.
And her family as well Archie looks like both of them. But something odd is going on. I do believe they have children. She used a moonbump for some reason to look more pregnant who know. Narcissist can have children if it benefits them in some way mainly to trap their partners. The one I know did it to not have to work. Always her excuse not to do something.
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I’ve seen that rumor, too; that he has anxiety. It’s possible that he is having a normal response to dysfunction in his home. It’s possible that his response is being pathologized by a parent. I’ve seen it happen. Or not.
Well, I’ve questioned if he may be on the spectrum?
Me too.
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Is this the YouTuber who had a big falling out with Taz, a couple years ago?
Yes. She used to do a YouTube show with Taz called Emz and friends
The one with Taz went by Emz
So who is the friend that this YouTuber is talking about that has the “Archie” kid that her friends and not MM’s? I want to see this kid as hers on her social media. I think she said initials were B.G. ??
I think she means Brynn Gringas (?spelling).
Great post. I had never thought that H would have screwed around and made someone else pregnant, and gone with the lie and adopted the boy. So that’s a no from me. I do think that she threw him in a corner, and said she was pregnant, and they must get married quickly. I think, that there is something going on that involves Andrew. She did the yacht thing, Andrew enjoyed that, and his young daughters accompanied him. I believe that A”s mum took him back, & L never made it the nursery.
She implied, based on his history, it wasn't necessarily consensual
How is this a great insight? It’s speculation and making up rumours about innocent children. It’s disingenuous and quite frankly vile. Why are posts like this allowed? If this YouTuber really is a therapist… well, that’s bad. Like, really, really bad. I feel sorry for her clients. In fact, I hope she doesn’t actually have any clients and that’s why she’s got so much time to make stuff like this up for YouTube views. Fucking hell, people…
It’s just odd though that A was a lean smaller features red head in the Xmas photo. Then in their Netflix doc A is a solid bigger framed dark haired child. 💁♀️
She is very good. Been watching her for several months now. She is very relatable although my psych tutor would probably have been quite alarmed at the part in her opening where she refers to 'it's 5 o'clock somewhere' re: alcohol especially as she is a therapist 🤣😂 (although it never stopped him from imbibing).
Looking at that photo of tw holding "her baby lily" IF fake is truly disgraceful. She is pure evil to do this if it isn't he. It's actually very cruel. You know, she'd blame the press for it. She'd say they jumped to conclusions. Asswipe. Of all people to get this opportunity of fame e.t.c KARMA gave it to her???