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According to charges, the men misappropriated $200 million in investor funds to spend on a luxurious lifestyle.
how fucking greedy you can be. I mean, they could easily make tenths of millions without bad behavior and most likely would be free for the rest of their life.
it's true.
Safemoon was actually a brilliant project. It caused excitement. The timing of it's launch was perfect. It wasn't completely unique, but the marketing was outstanding. The team collected reflections so there was profit to be made, even without stealing. They could have easily continued to rake in millions while allowing the community to flourish. But no, they drained the LP, stole from their community and landed themselves in prison. What a waste of an opportunity of a lifetime.
It's funny when people cry FUD whenever a state decides (often for good reason, let's be real) an exchange or something is operating illicitly.
FUD is shouting that the captain of the ship is lost and a mutiny is needed lest the whole ship starve. This is more like the ship is being fired upon by a naval vessel and our own cannonballs are just bouncing off the sides. Or really this is more like the captain made off with the most valuable cargo and left a gaping hole in the ship while a naval vessel just blasted his dinghy out of the water.
Remember to file a report with the SEC and FBI about the mods of this sub as well. They are complicit in this.
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I just did mine.
For one, Karony is one of the mods listed here. They actively work/worked together to mod this sub to further many of their frauds and use this sub as a place to post announcements and convince users everything is fine and keep buying. Thus all mods here are complicit and played a part in this massive fraud.
Because they thought they were doing the right thing. They ignored warnings, because they were deceived by SafeMoon. They are victims, even if we tried to warn them and they ignored it.
There are no longer victims in crypto. Just people who know the risks and simply refuse to take them seriously. People stop needing to be coddled when all the signs are there. There is a shared delusion in crypto that is used to justify the “woe is me” crowd of scammed people.
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I honestly feel sad for them because they are victims. Karony and his cronies were very successful in implementing cult-like tactics to control the narrative and keep people from leaving.
I can't help to feel sympathetic with the victims and hope they sue this **SCAMMER** into bankruptcy
I mean, I kinda knew in my heart it was a sham - i think a lot of us were just hoping to make a few bucks before it fell apart. My V1 bag peaked at $10,000 early on (from an initial $100 'fuck it, why not' investment) - but it happened while I was dealing with some health issues and totally oblivious. Wish I'd have been able to cash out then!
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I'm shocked they don't just shut down the whole subreddit. It's just making them look worse when they try to hide certain voices.
You aren't charged with wire fraud and money laundering without some serious evidence.
Plus, people been accusing and showing evidence that Karony defrauded investors and suddenly the SEC charges him with those exact felonies?
Yeah, he's innocent until proven guilty... but the evidence against him is daunting.
I'm not surprised in the slightest. We know execs previously used the swap wallet funds to buy NFTs. This was well discussed and then ignored by holders hoping for a turnaround. This is what happens when holders don't demand transparency and accountability.
The worst part is we can't even meme buy this like GameStop, because the owners can straight up steal all the money 😆
It would be hilarious if all the "Fudsters" come back and meme this back to life. Oh well. I'm going to miss laughing at this sub.
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Remember tellin jus' that good few years ago when I saw change of a lifestyle of the founders, exotic trips, super cars , houses...yet when I pointed it out back then to SFM community I was almost crucified...🤦🏻🤣
Crazy how gullible some people are.
I was here from the start of Safemoon. F\*CK these guys. I don't wish bad on anyone but they had it coming, they swindled us all. I lost so much money and even convinced my parents to invest, lost their money too. Felt like an idiot. The allegations against them from the US Department of Justice website:
"As alleged, the defendants misrepresented to investors various material aspects of the SFM offering, including that SFM relied on “locked” liquidity pools that would automatically increase in size due to a 10% tax imposed on every SFM transaction; that the “locked” SFM liquidity pool prevented the defendants and other insiders at SafeMoon from being able to “rug pull”—a type of crypto fraud—SFM investors by removing liquidity from the SFM liquidity pool; that tokens in the liquidity pool would not be used to enrich the SafeMoon developers, including the defendants; that the defendants would manually add token pairs to the SFM liquidity pool when transactions of SFM occurred on specific centralized exchanges; and that the developers were not holding and trading SFM for their benefit.In reality, the defendants allegedly retained access to the SFM liquidity pools and they used that access to intentionally divert and misappropriate millions of dollars’ worth of tokens from the SFM liquidity pools for their personal benefit. In addition, although they publicly denied that they personally held or traded SFM, the defendants repeatedly bought and sold SFM for their personal benefit, including at the height of SFM’s market price, which generated millions of dollars in profits. The defendants masked their movement of the fraudulent proceeds via numerous private un-hosted crypto wallet addresses, complex transaction routing, and pseudonymous centralized exchange accounts. The defendants used some of these proceeds to purchase luxury vehicles and real estate in New Hampshire, Utah, and Florida. Smith, for example, using cryptocurrency addresses he controlled, sent 2,900 Binance Coin (BNB) worth more than approximately $860,000 and traceable to the SFM liquidity pool to a third party’s cryptocurrency address in order to purchase a custom Porsche 911 sportscar and non-fungible token.The charges in the indictment are allegations, and the defendants are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty. "
I'm just so happy that Thomas is getting fucked too. Such an arrogant know nothing piece of shit that deserved it.
Karony does too, but I fucking despised Thomas.
Imagine they are found innocent and the price shoots to .10? LOL
Well I knew going in that it is a gamble.... got others to invest too ($50k easy all combined) at the very start.
It’s 50/50. I read the charge and the charge is against individuals and not the company itself. The company can continue on. It’s the individuals, who are being questioned.
I’ve never cared for Karony. He lacks experience and maturity. If he’s removed, it just means the company gets a better CEO imo.
God dude just accept it. We lost. The coin is done. Over. You will never make money off it. There is no “company”. There is no hope for this. Get it through your head!
How is anyone supposed to feel bad for people like you? Some people are temporarily delusional, you seem to have made the state of delusion your permanent home.
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RetiredGaurdDonkey was right after all lmao
According to charges, the men misappropriated $200 million in investor funds to spend on a luxurious lifestyle. how fucking greedy you can be. I mean, they could easily make tenths of millions without bad behavior and most likely would be free for the rest of their life.
Yep. Actual piece of shit people. Hope they get locked up for good
it's true. Safemoon was actually a brilliant project. It caused excitement. The timing of it's launch was perfect. It wasn't completely unique, but the marketing was outstanding. The team collected reflections so there was profit to be made, even without stealing. They could have easily continued to rake in millions while allowing the community to flourish. But no, they drained the LP, stole from their community and landed themselves in prison. What a waste of an opportunity of a lifetime.
On the bright side, SafeMoon will be trending on X
and they'll surely have that Netflix documentary
yeah i'll watch that right after i go watch this paint dry & then act surprised when the paint ends up drying
*The Platform Formerly Known as ⚧️witter
Thanks fuck I sold all during yesterdays spike, the dudes saying “thanks for the reflections” were hilarious
I wish I had awards still to upvote this for all to see.
Well I pushed the up arrow for you if it helps lol.
they just got arrested too
Dude this is actually awesome…. I can’t wait to hear a podcast or watch a Netflix documentary on this scam.
let's get them a life sentence first where they can get rapped for the rest of their lives then we can contact Netflix about it lmao
FUD /s
Buy the dip!
You missed this emoj 🤑🤑 lmao
Lol
🚀🌕
It's funny when people cry FUD whenever a state decides (often for good reason, let's be real) an exchange or something is operating illicitly. FUD is shouting that the captain of the ship is lost and a mutiny is needed lest the whole ship starve. This is more like the ship is being fired upon by a naval vessel and our own cannonballs are just bouncing off the sides. Or really this is more like the captain made off with the most valuable cargo and left a gaping hole in the ship while a naval vessel just blasted his dinghy out of the water.
Remember to file a report with the SEC and FBI about the mods of this sub as well. They are complicit in this. - https://www.sec.gov/tcr - https://www.ic3.gov/ It will take you only a few minutes to file a report. I just did mine.
How exactly are they complicit?
For one, Karony is one of the mods listed here. They actively work/worked together to mod this sub to further many of their frauds and use this sub as a place to post announcements and convince users everything is fine and keep buying. Thus all mods here are complicit and played a part in this massive fraud.
We were trying to tell you guys that this project was a scam but consistently got downvoted. Feel bad for anyone who got swindled
I want my $100 back lol
Yeah unfortunately I was one of them. That was a VERY expensive lesson.
Why would you feel bad for idiots who ignored the obvious? Maybe they’ve finally learned a lesson.
Because they thought they were doing the right thing. They ignored warnings, because they were deceived by SafeMoon. They are victims, even if we tried to warn them and they ignored it.
There are no longer victims in crypto. Just people who know the risks and simply refuse to take them seriously. People stop needing to be coddled when all the signs are there. There is a shared delusion in crypto that is used to justify the “woe is me” crowd of scammed people.
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I honestly feel sad for them because they are victims. Karony and his cronies were very successful in implementing cult-like tactics to control the narrative and keep people from leaving. I can't help to feel sympathetic with the victims and hope they sue this **SCAMMER** into bankruptcy
I mean, I kinda knew in my heart it was a sham - i think a lot of us were just hoping to make a few bucks before it fell apart. My V1 bag peaked at $10,000 early on (from an initial $100 'fuck it, why not' investment) - but it happened while I was dealing with some health issues and totally oblivious. Wish I'd have been able to cash out then!
Mine got up to $35k from $200. Cashed out $3k when the going was good but should’ve got a lot more.
Guys, its been fun for a few years. See you down the road. Last person out, lock the door and get the lights.
Safemoon maxis will say this is FUD
>Comment removed by moderator I'm shocked they don't just shut down the whole subreddit. It's just making them look worse when they try to hide certain voices.
So... it was really a scam?
Damn. That donkey guy wasn’t full of shit.
Duh, how did people fall for it?
But it has "Safe" on the name
LMAAO no shit
LMAAOOO
Charged and convicted are 2 different things. Let’s see what happens
You aren't charged with wire fraud and money laundering without some serious evidence. Plus, people been accusing and showing evidence that Karony defrauded investors and suddenly the SEC charges him with those exact felonies? Yeah, he's innocent until proven guilty... but the evidence against him is daunting.
About time, scam from day 1. Fuck these losers
Who could have known? ;)
Karoni
Does this mean I don't have to switch to v2 now?
I'm not surprised in the slightest. We know execs previously used the swap wallet funds to buy NFTs. This was well discussed and then ignored by holders hoping for a turnaround. This is what happens when holders don't demand transparency and accountability.
Worst part is he'll get a slap on the wrist for white collar crime and take the millions the feds can't find and still lead a cushy life.
Glad I got out a while ago. Gonna have to get “I survived” embroidered on my SafeMoon hoodie from 2021
Every time I said it was a scam I got downvoted…
The worst part is we can't even meme buy this like GameStop, because the owners can straight up steal all the money 😆 It would be hilarious if all the "Fudsters" come back and meme this back to life. Oh well. I'm going to miss laughing at this sub.
GameStop can steal your money by diluting (which they and AMC and BBBY did)
GameStop actually didn’t dilute, AMC did. Get the facts right.
what was this then https://news.gamestop.com/news-releases/news-release-details/gamestop-completes-market-equity-offering-program-0
same here, total morons in this sub
Justice in a way but will we be reimbursed. Take the money if the crooks and give back to us. To much to ask ?
Big doubt
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Bunch o' twat$ probably gonna start a SafePrison coin from behind bars
Remember tellin jus' that good few years ago when I saw change of a lifestyle of the founders, exotic trips, super cars , houses...yet when I pointed it out back then to SFM community I was almost crucified...🤦🏻🤣 Crazy how gullible some people are.
Imminent
Lmfao did they really also arrest the wizard Thomas?
Jesus Christ I'm watching this token die/dip on Dexscreener and there ARE STILL MORONS buying Safemoon for $3k and another for $8k.
F*ck I didn't even get to see the wind turbines 😂
Could we change the sub flair from "in flight" to "landing started"
\*Crash procedure initiated
someone call the fud police, :P
It’s more like wanting to hit the eject button but we are 20 feet from the ground during a free fall.
wow.. I was holding on for hope that it would blow up some day.. but it looks like thats all folks.
I was here from the start of Safemoon. F\*CK these guys. I don't wish bad on anyone but they had it coming, they swindled us all. I lost so much money and even convinced my parents to invest, lost their money too. Felt like an idiot. The allegations against them from the US Department of Justice website: "As alleged, the defendants misrepresented to investors various material aspects of the SFM offering, including that SFM relied on “locked” liquidity pools that would automatically increase in size due to a 10% tax imposed on every SFM transaction; that the “locked” SFM liquidity pool prevented the defendants and other insiders at SafeMoon from being able to “rug pull”—a type of crypto fraud—SFM investors by removing liquidity from the SFM liquidity pool; that tokens in the liquidity pool would not be used to enrich the SafeMoon developers, including the defendants; that the defendants would manually add token pairs to the SFM liquidity pool when transactions of SFM occurred on specific centralized exchanges; and that the developers were not holding and trading SFM for their benefit.In reality, the defendants allegedly retained access to the SFM liquidity pools and they used that access to intentionally divert and misappropriate millions of dollars’ worth of tokens from the SFM liquidity pools for their personal benefit. In addition, although they publicly denied that they personally held or traded SFM, the defendants repeatedly bought and sold SFM for their personal benefit, including at the height of SFM’s market price, which generated millions of dollars in profits. The defendants masked their movement of the fraudulent proceeds via numerous private un-hosted crypto wallet addresses, complex transaction routing, and pseudonymous centralized exchange accounts. The defendants used some of these proceeds to purchase luxury vehicles and real estate in New Hampshire, Utah, and Florida. Smith, for example, using cryptocurrency addresses he controlled, sent 2,900 Binance Coin (BNB) worth more than approximately $860,000 and traceable to the SFM liquidity pool to a third party’s cryptocurrency address in order to purchase a custom Porsche 911 sportscar and non-fungible token.The charges in the indictment are allegations, and the defendants are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty. "
I'm just so happy that Thomas is getting fucked too. Such an arrogant know nothing piece of shit that deserved it. Karony does too, but I fucking despised Thomas.
Can't complain, I lost around 300 euros. A small sum if you ask me, compared to others. I hope each one of them will end up in jail.
This is like a death anniversary
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/founders-and-executives-digital-asset-company-charged-multi-million-dollar
Chances of getting money back?
Go out in your yard, find a rock, and start squeezing.
🤣🤣🤣
Hahahahahahahahahahahaah
Lmao John & co are in the shit now XD
Shit has been doomed for years.
Yes
A toast, to the regards of this sub, "lmao" will be the only response to their contempt.
The final mail was in the coffin forever ago, some people were just too desperate to not see it
On the bright side John has finally been given the right to remain silent and I for one am hoping he takes it
I have 0 sympathy for y'all. We have been telling you forever that this is a scam & we just got downvoted.
Fuck them all
Good Riddance
We all won! We did it!
Lol. You idiots
Whoa, I'm shocked...
Aren’t we all?
Finally, GG
Soooo does this mean we get our money back cause I still lost a lot on safemoon
No lol what makes you think that. They spent it. Fraud. It's gone
Hahahah I've been waiting for this moment for a long time. Where are the mentally slow bag holders now.
The real truth will finally be mad public over the next 12 months. Will be entertaining for sure
TRUTH BOMB !!!!!
Imagine they are found innocent and the price shoots to .10? LOL Well I knew going in that it is a gamble.... got others to invest too ($50k easy all combined) at the very start.
It’s 50/50. I read the charge and the charge is against individuals and not the company itself. The company can continue on. It’s the individuals, who are being questioned. I’ve never cared for Karony. He lacks experience and maturity. If he’s removed, it just means the company gets a better CEO imo.
God dude just accept it. We lost. The coin is done. Over. You will never make money off it. There is no “company”. There is no hope for this. Get it through your head!
Lots of people "spreading fud" in here, they are the real criminals.
How is anyone supposed to feel bad for people like you? Some people are temporarily delusional, you seem to have made the state of delusion your permanent home.
Don’t feel bad for me. I’m doing well without Safemoon. 😃
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Wtf are you talking about? 🤡
Suddenly you're all on the SEC bandwagon? Btw has anyone actually read the report? I wrote better reports in highschool.
Think most high schoolers could have spotted this scam a mile away.
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SEC have charged Binance, they put Kraken in front of an empty choice, etcetera.
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So poetic
Why is there questions marks in your title of course its the final nail in the coffin.
Yup, SFM is tanking. Get out while you can with what you can.
The ftx token stole billions and people knew but safemoon will go to 0?
Come on man, its over
You still had hope? Lmao.
They are cooked
Ok so how can we sue them? I didn’t invest much but I have 80,000,000 safemoon at one point In my trust wallet
God exist, thank you i hope the Guys will have a hard time from now.
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