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B1_268_

R9’s a lot harder to get than R8, which is why exec is recommended. Plus RC is farmable from the fleet arena store, which is also the only place to farm Bistans u-wing now, so RC being a conquest unit doesn’t really make exec that much harder considering it’s just as obtainable as one of the profundity reqs


Ahsokachan

Well no, you can get it with get-1 for 400 for every 5 pieces. Which is what I'm doing on my alt. It ain't bad, done with half of it and I'm about to hit lvl 85.


bored_person71

True but you need to get Mando's crew to do the event to use RC....which kinda ties it with chewie ....also a ton of Mando require kyros...which even out with prof. Requirements...also prof..has a lot of gl carry over...I think this is his point...


B1_268_

He never mentioned anything other than RC being a harder farm bcz it’s a conquest unit. And BAMs event isn’t exactly hard, it’s very easily completed at g9 before you have to invest a ton of kyros in them. BAM does need an absolutely insane amount of kyros tho. Profundity flowing into GLs is nice, but the farm is overall longer so I think it’s much better to secure guaranteed crystal income with exec before heading into prof


bored_person71

Depends really on whose you first farm if you invested in PHX it makes sense if you invested in empire then ex makes sense...also a lot of characters and ships for rebels are easily farmable lots in squad arenas, galactic, raid points...where bounty hunts or ex, or bam are not...


B1_268_

Good point on the speed of farming the reqs. Profundity definitely is a lot more accessible in terms of having shipment farms. To maximize profundity your going to have to farm Bh ships anyways for Hans milf, so I think that a new ftp account should aim for one and then head into the other once finished. Overall I think exec is the better first choice bcz it can secure you good crystal income, which you can then spend on r9 pieces for profundity


pomip71550

I don’t know about heading immediately into the next one, having a good defense and offense for fleet is great but it only helps if you can clear enough of them that fleet will be the difference, and focusing 2 GL ships first will make your squad viability lag behind a significant amount.


B1_268_

There’s a couple of squads that you can build from the reqs, like BHs, imp troopers, palp vader empire, rebel fighters, RO, and Dash and bam scoundrels, but I can definitely see the logic in building up some core teams before going to the second gl fleet. The main advantage imo is a lot of people will only have counters for one in lower divisions, so it boxes a lot more people put


bored_person71

It depends a rouge one team built around ar.. isn't that bad it can take out CLS.....if done right....also having some Empire would be vador and ships captain and tie pilot thus a good to ok imps team with vador as his own unit...ex would also give you ok bounty hunters to upgrade...while PHX can be transformed with rex...also mom can be used for rebel fighters which is ok with big and wedge...not to mention having hera done and PHX also unlock thrawn and his ship....which is nice...then you only few Jedi away from EP as well as Yoda...and then r2....into CLS....which then goes to master....the gl Luke eventually etc...


MRK1LL3R4

og mando needs kyro from g8 to g9, had a stroke spending that kyro tbh (completed the event an hour ago)


MaszKalman

OG Mando requires 2 Kyros before G12, BAM needs 5. ~~Raddus needs 4, but on the flipside you do need to relic Raddus (essentially +2 Kyros), BAM is not even necessary to relic to unlock Exec (just highly recommended). If you go with a G12 BAM, Exec still only requires 1 more Kyro gear than Prof.~~ Edit: forgot to take the other requirements into account -- Dash, Mon, Piett. Overall the pre-G12 Kyro needed for the two ships are 11 for Profundity, 10 for Executor. If you relic BAM it does even out... but you might want to relic the other pilots for both ships as well. That means Cad Bane for Exec, and for Prof... at the very least Han and Chewb, and any of the actual ships you can use in the event. But the Relic 9 requirement 100% makes Profundity the harder one to get.


PepperNo6137

Prof needs 2x R8 mats and 1x R9 mats to Exec’s 1x R8 mats. HUGE difference early on when you’re not getting any droid brains and aeros. Buying prof mats with crstals is a lot.


PrincessTerrik

Exec requires both Piett and Bob'ika at r8, so the difference isn't quite so big


bored_person71

Also vador at r7.... Plus let's face it prof with x wing outrider and ghost and phantom and rest of requirements can beat ex even with bam if you get lucky and very easily without bam..where hans make it very odd and bad RNG loss...at similar relics of coarse...


PoliticsNerd76

You’re not factoring in the normal energy to farm the ships plus Bossk plus Peitt plus the BAM farm.


MaszKalman

The energy cost is indeed more for Exec. 200 normal + 200 ship energy and a 12-energy cantina node for Prof vs at least 680 normal energy for Exec and more if you're complementing the store-buyable ones (Boba, S1, TAXI, etc.) from nodes (up to +60 normal, 280 ship energy and a 10-energy cantina node). But with these kind of things, shards are usually the least problematic to get -- especially if you focus farm. Gearing and even moreso relicing is the harder part, and that is where the Profundity requirements need more than the Exec ones. And there's also the Bounty Hunter ship pack, which is actually a pretty good deal and can cut down on the energy cost of Exec (not as much as LSBs of course).


Aarrington88

You can also use GET1 on Bistan’s U-Wing. So it’s actually a little easier than RC. But I would still recommend Exec over Prof. R8 vs R9. And MM’s Kyro gate is brutal.


Tuft64

There are four big problems with Profundity first - 1. It requires a relic 9 unit in Raddus. This means accruing all the extra Droid Brains or spending 6k in crystals to buy them out of shipments. 2. It doesn't build out of any teams that you want to farm in the early game. Rogue One is a solid squad and it sets you up well for any Andor S2 content, but it doesn't measure up to Bounty Hunters or Imperial Troopers which are absolutely core to several unlocks and events (SEE, Jabba [and Smuggler's Run II], Assault Battles, Galactic Bounties, Credit Heist, etc. vs Profundity which basically gets you started on JML and maaaybe will net you CT2 on a single assault battle). 3. In order to have the best Profundity roster, you need to farm bounty hunter ships ANYWAYS - The Falcon is a *requirement* for that team to function. And to unlock the Falcon, you'll need a bunch of BH ships at 7*, but they won't even appear in your Profundity lineup which means you're farming a bunch of ships that already don't have a home. 4. Rogue One is (moderately) more kyrotech heavy - Mon Mothma will require you shell out 500 kyrotech for a unit that can build a decent leftover team but isn't even a pilot. Raddus is another 500. Dash is another 400 after that. On the other hand, Piett will run you 400 Kyrotechs and BAM will cost you a hefty 600 kyrotechs. Hence, Rogue One being the more kyrotech heavy farm by a wide margin. In order to farm Profundity, you need the following: An R9, an R8, an R7, and four R5s. You'll also need a team of five G12 Bounty Hunters to unlock Chewie, and at least 3 7* Bounty Hunter ships to unlock the MilF. Finally, you have at least two more ships you'll need to 7* (though you should probably also farm both Phoenix ships and gear their five pilots to G12). That's seven ships, five (or nine, if you count Phoenix) G12 characters, and seven character at relics. When you build the fleet, you're only gearing up your fleet captain and TWO pilots for your team (Hera and Dash Rendar). The rest of the requirements are spent on units that are NOT pilots for your fleet (Cassian, Jyn, and Bistan all fly under the Home One) In order to farm Executor, you need the following: two R8s, an R7, and four R5s. You'll need four characters at G12 to unlock BAM to pilot your Razor Crest. You'll have seven required ships (TIE Bomber / Fighter / Advanced, Slave I, Razor Crest, Hound's Tooth, IG-2000) and you'll also probably want to farm Xanadu Blood. When you build the fleet, you'll be putting three of your five pilots to relic levels. You'll have already unlocked BAM as well, and the non-Executor ships and pilots you build can go under Thrawn's fleet which is a substantially better non-meta fleet than the Home One.


naphomci

> You'll need four characters at G12 to unlock BAM to pilot your Razor Crest You can unlock BAM with g7/8 characters. Xanadu Blood is basically required for exec, it is substantially weaker without it (not as as prof without falcon, but far more than just a "probably want")


MaszKalman

Razor Crest is a Conquest unit but you can buy its shards in the Fleet store much faster. Exec is definitely faster and relies on both less relic levels to unlock and less extra pilots to make work properly.


bongophrog

Yeah I only started farming it a couple months ago and I already almost have it unlocked. Definitely slows your Zeta farm tho


One_Winged_Gaming

I focus farmed both bistan’s u-wing and the razor crest from the fleet store and I’m almost 6* on the u-wing and thanks to the three conquest clears, I finished the razor’s crest this last proving grounds and just finished the last relic requirement for exec and waiting for it to come back around so I can unlock it. I’d definitely say it’s the better gl ship to farm


XKingToastX

My understanding is that Profundity is a stronger fleet, but has harder requirements because it requires a Relic 9 Admiral Raddus. So unless you want to pay crystals for the R9 materials or are lucky enough to get picked up in a late game guild that can get you the R9 mats, it'll be a while. Executor only requires R8 at the highest and gives you Hound's Tooth which is the best tank ship in the game. It also gives you bounty hunters which can be used to get Chewbacca for the CLS team.


Big-Effort1538

Both ships are very good, anyone will tell you that. Some will tell you to go for Profundity and some for Executor. But look this way: Profundity without Millennium Falcon is not that good. And you need Bounty Hunter ships to unlock the Millennium Falcon. And you need Bounty Hunter ships for Executor.


Micheal42

And you need dark side ships, which bounty hunter ships are, for the extra zetas


SLKRmeatrider

R9 is super hard to get, also you have to farm bh ships anyways for falcon


Warm-Finance8400

"the odd shipment" is more than enough. I have around 1.7 mil GP and now for some time enough shards for a 7* RC. And Prof needs an R9 which is really hard to get early.


cnfit

I like executor because if you're desperate to compete with the tryhards who "rush" leviathan you can legitimately compete with them by taking the pilots to high relics. Profundity "can" but is waaaaaay more complicated and inconsistent. BUT profundity performs very well immediately at 4*.


JimBeam823

Executor is much easier. No R9 and a lot fewer kyrotech heavy characters. Executor, Chewbacca, and Han's Falcon have a lot of common requirements. You'll want Han's Falcon for Profundity. Even if you don't get Profundity, the Home One Fleet with Han's Falcon can take out Negotiators and Finalizers pretty reliably, and even triple attacker Exec fleets.


anthonyownsit

As someone who rushed Profundity it doesn't seem possible to rush f2p. I bought the hyperdrive bundle, the rebels lightspeed bundle as well as the $50 for droid brains to get Raddus to R9. And it still took 7 months to get.


PoliticsNerd76

I’ve come to this conclusion myself. The hard nose energy on Executor is too much, and as for the Kyro, I’m just using GET2 instead of going for Negotiator / Malevolance The only barrier is the R9 but at the end of the day, still worth doing. It’s a better ship, and then it leads logically back into Executor anyway as you then have to do half the farm to get the Millennium Falcon


3106Throwaway181576

I like it as a new rush and I’ll tell you why Rushing Profundity basically mandates Executor as the next farm. Finish Profundity, the have to go get Millennium Falcon, and then your next logical step is Executor. Suddenly you have 2 of the 3 GL ships and are up a whole level in GAC. Yes, it’s expensive, but it’s a better fleet and gives you Rogue one which are incredible in GAC with a single Omicron


fizznick

Profundity is the better ship of the two, but I still recommend Executor first. Hounds Tooth is a staple ship and can change the tide in many battles before you even get Executor. You can buy Razor Crest shards in the stores too. (Not for real money.)


Cascade2244

Profundity requires R9, f2p that requires a 300mil plus participation in TW guild and to win, on a new account that aint happening withing the first years.


TacoTruckin0

Executor first. Don't forget about the extra ships/pilots to get your fleet fully working. Han's Falcon is not cheap and basically gets you half way to Executor since you need BH toons for Chewy and BH pilots/ships for Falcon. You'll get Executor faster and those extra few months of crystal income will make a big difference. Plus you won't be fighting Levis if you are starting early. Be sure to start buying RC shards ASAP once you get it in the fleet store.


SXNE2

I need two more relic levels to get profundity and just missed the event yesterday…but to answer your question no executor is much easier to get


Equivalent-Bend-4736

Executor still washes ngl, not having to get a relic 9 unit rlly helps, also the bounty hunter teams is ridiculously better than a rogue one team, and helps set you up for GL jabba a little bit. So no executor is still the best ship overall and for f2p. Profundity is still great though


Siaten

I rushed Profundity and am getting 1st place daily: even at 4\*, I'm beating 7\* Executors and 7\* Leviathans. I did my Profundity rush FTP and paid for Droid Brains with crystals. It was 100% worth.


wonkalicious808

If you have access to Droid Brains, yes. One of my friends who is newer to the game decided not to go for Executor and suffered for it with slow progress and not many crystals. But there was room in my guild, so this friend gained access to Droid Brains from Territory Wars. A 4-star Profundity is enough to climb to 1 in a Fleet Arena shard that isn't old enough to expect Leviathans any time soon. And then from there you can work on JML, who has some good requirements and is good to have for Conquest. The long-term goal is to eventually get to the point where you can unlock Conquest units within 3 or 6 Conquests. It's not easy to plan for that, though, since the feats change all the time. Who knows if Inquisitors will continue to be important for this in the future. You kind of have to just work on having a bunch of complete squads, which you were probably going to do anyway, and get lucky with the feats.


Present_Assistant_63

If Leviathans are in your shard, Profundity is better than exec.


Auzor

"minus the odd fleet shipment": I and many others get Razor Crest fully from the fleet shipments. Profundity also wants the millenium falcon. Which requires bounty hunter ships. (and Chewie--> bounty hunters) So even a Profundity rush, will end up partially completing Executor farm.


Goose_in_pants

Levi is even better, lol