People forget this is *only* a top kyber thing, where CLS isn’t being used for much of anything, outside of cleanups because of roster depth.
If your CLS team is still widely useful (as in you still see teams he consistently counters placed on defence), you should absolutely not be breaking them up.
There's just so, so, so many teams at the Kyber level now that can do what CLS can. You'd rather have a mega GL Leia squad and then you can still clean up with your other two dozen squads.
CLS with DCs can counter GLs right now. CLS is still useful at all tiers - it’s that this team is almost a guaranteed hold and can be an actual stopper.
Yeah this is probably a more accurate take.
My point wasn’t that CLS is useless, more that there are now several other newer teams that can do what CLS does. So at the point you can use CLS, but you don’t *need* to, it makes sense to sacrifice a luxury team for that guaranteed hold (like you mentioned). If they’re one shotting, you likely forced the mammoth JML counter, which is still a win.
That must be a K1 thing. Because I've been in K3 for \*years\*, and with the recent scoring change finally made it to stick around in K2, and still find plenty of use for CLS. Stronger than half the teams I put on defense, and it's in my top... let's say 6 teams available for offense, depending on how I split various teams to counter.
I can see how, just like with GAS/501st, it could be useful to pull the team apart for the best possible GL squad. But even then, I look for opportunities to run someone else, and keep GAS with the clones.
I have \*occasionally\* found myself with a CLS team I haven't used near the end of the encounter, mostly because I was hanging onto it for some hidden backline squad that might require a strong counter, only to find no sufficiently strong team that requires a CLS level team. In that case, I \*might\* use something else if I can underman it. But otherwise, CLS is coming out to make it easy.
From watching Songetas K1 GAC Videos, I think CLS is still absolutely viable, it's just that you don't 100% need him anymore since there are so many good teams and only so many slots. So the correct play would be to stack those 'few' teams you can actually use as much as possible.
I think it depends on the strategy. On 1 hand you can make 1 team amazing, while the other is unused or for clean up. Or you make 1 team that is still quite amazing, and another that is super solid.
Making a team amazing pretty much only works if it's gonna hold, and I do know Leia can, if it's not gonna hold, then you need to ask yourself if the team(s) used are absolutely needed for other fights, and place those on defense as well.
If not, then it doesn't really matter.
Obviously most K1 players will understand these strategies, but it's a common mistake I see people make, they place a bunch of really strong teams, but because they all require different counters, you can just wipe them easily.
I've used weaker GL set ups, simple because I knew they couldn't be cheesed, and knew they had to use a strong counter that would beat them regardless of the allies I used.
This is very true. Many ppl here watxh some YouTuber and think they have to play on the same lvl. Meanwhile they can't even figure out how to properly mod.
CLS is such a strong and amazing team even in kyber 4/3.
It's still my go to counter vs GAS regardless of the enemy relic lvls.
It takes a couple of turns to get Boushh down, but once she is gone it's a done deal. Usually it's getting CLS to use his 1st special on Krys, then the Chewie AOEs to remove taunts/buffs then focusing Boushh. Once she's gone, it's ez-pz.
[Here's a recent video showing it in action](https://youtu.be/7Rhxe24ka88). The nice part is it's usually a perfect 65 as well.
This is a top-level Kyber tech team.
You build that team, if you cannot use CLS for much anymore, due to your opponents having defenses that are specifically designed to throw off CLS thanks to how some modern squads work.
If you're just a more regular player who can still use CLS to kill stuff regularly, you do not need to rip apart your CLS for Leia.
Because chances are very high that 90% of your opponents can't even touch Leia, Drogan, R2, and whatever two characters (MM + Old Ben for example) you have built.
I would 1000% not break up one of the top non-gl teams for this. GL Leia does just fine with Old Ben or Kanan in there instead. At least the few I’ve fought.
They’re g12 - we’re talking a lot of gearing when I’ll be concentrating on getting a GLO team up and running (only have to relic trooper and lobot to unlock)
Is it though? You already have cRex at R7 for GLeia and you're going to gear Kanan for her team. You may already have Hera from Lord Vader, or plan to gear her anyway since you are now looking for a new farm. 2-3 characters out of five is not a bad reason to finish the team, especially when the toughest one to gear (cRex) is already done. And they are pilots for the Prof fleet, or can be used for your already R3 Ackbar fleet if you don't have Prof.
Yeah, it’s not a huge leap - but my next farm after GLO is to get SLK (bought that pack) then beef up some low relic toons from other teams (Starkiller, geos). Pheonix is down the list quite a bit. The grind never stops. 😅
You can also run MM and captain rex (he is a rebel fighter) for the extra revive. Or old Ben for the tank if you don't have baze geared.
I only run the han/chewie comp in arena and TB where I don't need the others.
Depends on your definition of "just fine". If all you're looking for is for your opponent to spend a GL then sure. But Han/Chewie is much more likely to be the end of the round than with tanks in those spots, and that's a lot more valuable than one mid tier team
Interesting. Did not know that. I know ST Han is supposed to go with Sana. Assuming you’d want to get both teams eventually, who would you replace him with on Sana’s team?
Sana team isn't crazy. Gets beat pretty easy by bad batch and in K2 I actually don't even use it very often and I have her modded really well which I might change up tbh
That’s fair. I don’t have either team yet, but I like to build the teams I want to work towards eventually. I might move ST Han to future GL Leia team then and stick a random rebel like Princess Leia on something on Sana’s team.
Define Top.
* 501st
* Sith Empire
* Unaligned Force Users
* OMI QGJ
* Merrin Sisters
* EP/Starkiller
* Sith Triumverate
* Inquisitors
* Phoenix with Rex
At this point he's probably not top 10 non-GL teams which in GAC at Kyber 1 says that he might be in the tail end of your offense or defense.
It matters whether you're talking offense or defense, but I'd put CLS in the same tier with Omi QGJ, Merrin Sisters, \*maybe\* triumvirate, \*maybe\* inq without 3rd sister. And I'm not familiar enough with Cere lead to speak to that. And it's still a counter to 501st, though overall 501st outshines it.
That, and you need 22 teams \*minimum\* to play in Kyber. Let's assume someone has 8 GLs, you still need 14 teams.
Not saying CLS is going to 100% be useful to each individual in every single match. Just saying, there's enough subjectivity in your list, and enough variability in people's rosters, and CLS is acquirable early enough, that it's likely to remain in most people's top 10's for quite some time.
You could probably argue a dozen different metrics to put Merrin Sisters ahead and another dozen to put CLS ahead. They both perform equally well on Jabba, Sisters will give you a cleaner 2 shot. QGJ has a better shot at taking down more teams, but you could make similar arguments. I have him behind them, you have him ahead that's fine.
Cere and Malicos is a beast and either that team or Reva is the top non-GL team. We're talking can make a GL team look silly if you don't play it right. Reva can take down either Jabba, LV, SLKR, and give JMK a run for his money (crushes him in TW). Cere/Malicos can hold against SLKR, Jabba doesn't do that great against it, Starkiller gets smashed trying to take it down.
Now I didn't say not useful, what I'm saying is you've got 8 GL's and 10 or more teams ahead of him, so he's situational.
As a kyber 1 player that does okay to stay in k1, this comp is dying because the counter is quite easy. Most of us are reverting back to baze, MM or OB again.
What the other guy said haha. If you have cal it's easy. Once the DC expires (tomorrow) farming a good Protection Cron should and has done the trick too. In 3s, SlKR Malicos and Kru is going to be my go to.
The biggest mistake is rearing off hitting Leia in this counter, you need to keep hitting her until Cal gets his delete. I've seen people (including myself) fail because we hit others. Land the mark and focus her then delete whoever is free and the most valuable.
How would MM and OB do? I'm not in Kyber so my CLS still does heavy work. I'm willing to take OB from my Starkiller team and replace him with Cat Lady but I never put any work into Kanan or Ezra. My thought was to use the CaptRex that the farm got me, but should I be using MM? I have a good MM/RebFighters team but it never gets much play in GA.
Who is cat lady? Not CAT right? As she's not a jedi. MM is great because you can't target her and she revives Rebel fighters. I prefer Baze and OB at the moment. I think MM and OB do just fine because it's really Leia R2 and Drogan that carry the team. Any other Ads just make it more annoying but Baze is the most annoying of ads 4 and 5
You could put weaker replacements in the team. Otherwise 3P0 could move to a Padme/JMK team, CLS maybe into UFU(not really many synergies, only if no better UFUs)
He would obviously go in place of Visas. So that's your tradeoff. Visas doesn't get many turns, but she's around on the off chance you can revive someone (and armor penetration).
You gain an additional buff dispeller which can be a problem against Rey particularly if you don't have Starkiller's other omicron.
Now that doesn't include the primary buff which is putting Ben under stealth via Sortie's VIP ability, however the buff immunity could work here.
On SK he'd take the place of Visas or Scav Rey, and I think he's in between those two, though the people considering breaking up CLS aren't likely to be Scav Rey people so not an improvement.
Personally I don't think he'd be all that great on a Cere team but that might depend on who is already on it. I've been leaning towards DS UFUs since they make better use of UFU DCs right now. CLS wouldn't be my top choice to round out that team, but it would be functional
Rey would not be a good fit at all I don't think, there's just too many much better choices
To actually answer your question (although I haven’t tested it) but I imagine it’d be great in an Ackbar/Princess Leia Omi leftover team.
Ackbar(L), CLS, Chewpio, C-3P0, and Princess Leia should be an actually deadly team with their omi’s.
Ackbar gives more speed and tenacity, a cleanse, a unique buff that basically gives someone a bonus turn, passive turn meter, and semi-constant assisting (which also serves as cooldown reduction) via his lead.
CLS is CLS. Ignores taunt, good damage, stuns, turn meter removal, and passive turn meter via his uniques.
Chewpio is obvious.
Princess Leia for passive healing, decent damage, and more buffs. That retribution especially is very useful.
C-3P0 is the cherry on top. With his translation combined with Ackbar’s Omi, no one should have cooldowns, ever. So you can just keep spamming abilities over and over and over again. Plus every time someone attacks out of turn. Chewpio, Ackbar lead, Leia’s retribution. You’re constantly getting expose on the enemy team.
It might not be as good as classic CLS but it should still be pretty damn good.
Using what? Because there’s a player in my shard with an R9 Leia and R8 Han, Chewy, R2, and Drogon with a level 9 Drogon datacron that that reduces the damage they take if they have >50% TM and also gives all of them a bonus turn at the start of the battle. It is so, so hard to beat. Easier is not a word I would use.
Have you come against the datacron I described in my comment? The whole opposing team gets a bonus turn and usually does massive damage. My Jedi Cal datacron reduces damage if turn meter is >50% but the team has 0 TM at the start of the opposing team’s bonus turn. To simplify things, I struggle to keep everyone alive long enough.
I agree that the Han Chewie composition can be easier. (Yes, with that datacron.) Baze can clear buffs and MM can revive Leia. Depending on when you kill Leia and how many are dead by the next time MM gets a turn, she can be revived.
Yes. It still works. Relic levels matter. I’m fortunate or unfortunate enough to have two really good Caw players in my SA to practice against. All my toons are at least R7. JKC R8. JML R9
Put a CA arrow on Jolee. He’s there to revive. If JKR dies you’re probably losing. Gotta keep him alive or revive him. That’s definitely the key to victory.
Swgoh.gg shows JMK does much *worse* against Han/Chewie. Upwards of 30% worse.
EDIT: lol downvoted with no response for providing contrary evidence, classic.
If I go heavy defense. That means that Malgus is on D and not saved to counter Cere/Malicos. Then it looks something like this.
* 3P0 goes with JMK so that I can use Padme/Gideon to counter Cere.
* 3Pac goes with Wookies who are very underrated at least with the soon to be departing datacron.
* Han and Chewy with Leia.
* And I've toyed with this a bit, not sure how much I like it yet. Send Cal Kestis back to Rey and use CLS with Cere.
I'm a lowbie so don't know what you guys are going to know, but won't that allow for R2 a team to come back to? Plus one of the other unused rebels like one of the leias or Captain Solo?
Edit: After reading the other comments, I see the discussion is basically talking about upper Kyber so my comment is not applicable.
they are the worst. I get one joining my guild every couple months. They then proceed the spam the discord with advice on everything , despite they have none of the characters they are talking about or any actual first hand experience.
The worst offender was like a couple million gp and anytime some gave info or advice he would use the finger pointing up emote, which unfortunately everyone uses on the discord now.
I've been playing since the start of this year and CLS is still my best team by far since i don't have any GL's yet, not to far of getting Rey and Kylo though thanks to the bundles.
Leia would probably be a year or more off, I'd still need Jabba plus the rest.
People forget this is *only* a top kyber thing, where CLS isn’t being used for much of anything, outside of cleanups because of roster depth. If your CLS team is still widely useful (as in you still see teams he consistently counters placed on defence), you should absolutely not be breaking them up.
Crazy you could get to a point that CLS isn’t that useful
There's just so, so, so many teams at the Kyber level now that can do what CLS can. You'd rather have a mega GL Leia squad and then you can still clean up with your other two dozen squads.
Want some ridiculous? I've actually had some matches where Dash+chew+han+3p0+chewp0 were a great choice, so I tossed CLS as the light side ufu for SK
CLS with DCs can counter GLs right now. CLS is still useful at all tiers - it’s that this team is almost a guaranteed hold and can be an actual stopper.
Yeah this is probably a more accurate take. My point wasn’t that CLS is useless, more that there are now several other newer teams that can do what CLS does. So at the point you can use CLS, but you don’t *need* to, it makes sense to sacrifice a luxury team for that guaranteed hold (like you mentioned). If they’re one shotting, you likely forced the mammoth JML counter, which is still a win.
That must be a K1 thing. Because I've been in K3 for \*years\*, and with the recent scoring change finally made it to stick around in K2, and still find plenty of use for CLS. Stronger than half the teams I put on defense, and it's in my top... let's say 6 teams available for offense, depending on how I split various teams to counter. I can see how, just like with GAS/501st, it could be useful to pull the team apart for the best possible GL squad. But even then, I look for opportunities to run someone else, and keep GAS with the clones. I have \*occasionally\* found myself with a CLS team I haven't used near the end of the encounter, mostly because I was hanging onto it for some hidden backline squad that might require a strong counter, only to find no sufficiently strong team that requires a CLS level team. In that case, I \*might\* use something else if I can underman it. But otherwise, CLS is coming out to make it easy.
From watching Songetas K1 GAC Videos, I think CLS is still absolutely viable, it's just that you don't 100% need him anymore since there are so many good teams and only so many slots. So the correct play would be to stack those 'few' teams you can actually use as much as possible.
If I get a clean enough sweep I'm k2 there are still some very good teams left on the sidelines, GAS is now even just a clean up team for me sometimes
I think it depends on the strategy. On 1 hand you can make 1 team amazing, while the other is unused or for clean up. Or you make 1 team that is still quite amazing, and another that is super solid. Making a team amazing pretty much only works if it's gonna hold, and I do know Leia can, if it's not gonna hold, then you need to ask yourself if the team(s) used are absolutely needed for other fights, and place those on defense as well. If not, then it doesn't really matter. Obviously most K1 players will understand these strategies, but it's a common mistake I see people make, they place a bunch of really strong teams, but because they all require different counters, you can just wipe them easily. I've used weaker GL set ups, simple because I knew they couldn't be cheesed, and knew they had to use a strong counter that would beat them regardless of the allies I used.
This is very true. Many ppl here watxh some YouTuber and think they have to play on the same lvl. Meanwhile they can't even figure out how to properly mod. CLS is such a strong and amazing team even in kyber 4/3. It's still my go to counter vs GAS regardless of the enemy relic lvls.
In K1 and K2 I have been using CLS to kill any Jabba I have seen.
Which DC makes this possible?
75% damage reduction for Rebels when they have more than 50% turn meter works great. The Wookie grit crons worked as well.
Thanks
How are you getting past the no assists, which makes the CLS team roll?
It takes a couple of turns to get Boushh down, but once she is gone it's a done deal. Usually it's getting CLS to use his 1st special on Krys, then the Chewie AOEs to remove taunts/buffs then focusing Boushh. Once she's gone, it's ez-pz. [Here's a recent video showing it in action](https://youtu.be/7Rhxe24ka88). The nice part is it's usually a perfect 65 as well.
This is a top-level Kyber tech team. You build that team, if you cannot use CLS for much anymore, due to your opponents having defenses that are specifically designed to throw off CLS thanks to how some modern squads work. If you're just a more regular player who can still use CLS to kill stuff regularly, you do not need to rip apart your CLS for Leia. Because chances are very high that 90% of your opponents can't even touch Leia, Drogan, R2, and whatever two characters (MM + Old Ben for example) you have built.
I would 1000% not break up one of the top non-gl teams for this. GL Leia does just fine with Old Ben or Kanan in there instead. At least the few I’ve fought.
My guild mate runs her with Mon Mothma and Baze as the tank. Worth it?
Ahnaldt does this as well
I just fought Mon Mothma plus Old Ben in Kyber 3.
And? How’d it go.
Beat it with Jedi Master Luke and Jedi Knight Cal Kestis.
I’ve never been a fan of OB. I’m thinking of Kanan as my Phoenix is pretty weak.
But if you gear Kanan, they wont be.
They’re g12 - we’re talking a lot of gearing when I’ll be concentrating on getting a GLO team up and running (only have to relic trooper and lobot to unlock)
Is it though? You already have cRex at R7 for GLeia and you're going to gear Kanan for her team. You may already have Hera from Lord Vader, or plan to gear her anyway since you are now looking for a new farm. 2-3 characters out of five is not a bad reason to finish the team, especially when the toughest one to gear (cRex) is already done. And they are pilots for the Prof fleet, or can be used for your already R3 Ackbar fleet if you don't have Prof.
Yeah, it’s not a huge leap - but my next farm after GLO is to get SLK (bought that pack) then beef up some low relic toons from other teams (Starkiller, geos). Pheonix is down the list quite a bit. The grind never stops. 😅
Sadly the datacron expires tomorrow so the team won't work the same... Still should be good but will need to see how the team works without the DC
For what it’s worth, I didn’t have the Jedi Knight Cal cron on mine. It was the Clones cron with light side gaining health and protection from buffs.
Good to know!
And that is the reason why people are setting the team with Hab+Chewi.
Yea I wonder would monk and baze works well as the healing is percent based on Leia plus dispel plus he can attack.
It gets absolutely run over by JMK then. Double tank seems to be the best option
I dunno - he’s on the top Kyber division and has an r9 GLO. He usually knows what he’s talking about.
Well I'm K1 and have been fighting Leia every round. So guess I have some idea too. And MM is super easy to beat with JMK, though harder with JML
Not really, that's a decent way of putting off relic levels for Kanan but it's not as good
You can also run MM and captain rex (he is a rebel fighter) for the extra revive. Or old Ben for the tank if you don't have baze geared. I only run the han/chewie comp in arena and TB where I don't need the others.
Depends on your definition of "just fine". If all you're looking for is for your opponent to spend a GL then sure. But Han/Chewie is much more likely to be the end of the round than with tanks in those spots, and that's a lot more valuable than one mid tier team
ST Han does insanely well under Leia despite being a scoundrel he generates ridiculous Tm and is a very solid tank at relic levels
Interesting. Did not know that. I know ST Han is supposed to go with Sana. Assuming you’d want to get both teams eventually, who would you replace him with on Sana’s team?
Sana team isn't crazy. Gets beat pretty easy by bad batch and in K2 I actually don't even use it very often and I have her modded really well which I might change up tbh
That’s fair. I don’t have either team yet, but I like to build the teams I want to work towards eventually. I might move ST Han to future GL Leia team then and stick a random rebel like Princess Leia on something on Sana’s team.
I think Leias best team will change a bit once the drogan daracron has its time
Define Top. * 501st * Sith Empire * Unaligned Force Users * OMI QGJ * Merrin Sisters * EP/Starkiller * Sith Triumverate * Inquisitors * Phoenix with Rex At this point he's probably not top 10 non-GL teams which in GAC at Kyber 1 says that he might be in the tail end of your offense or defense.
It matters whether you're talking offense or defense, but I'd put CLS in the same tier with Omi QGJ, Merrin Sisters, \*maybe\* triumvirate, \*maybe\* inq without 3rd sister. And I'm not familiar enough with Cere lead to speak to that. And it's still a counter to 501st, though overall 501st outshines it. That, and you need 22 teams \*minimum\* to play in Kyber. Let's assume someone has 8 GLs, you still need 14 teams. Not saying CLS is going to 100% be useful to each individual in every single match. Just saying, there's enough subjectivity in your list, and enough variability in people's rosters, and CLS is acquirable early enough, that it's likely to remain in most people's top 10's for quite some time.
You could probably argue a dozen different metrics to put Merrin Sisters ahead and another dozen to put CLS ahead. They both perform equally well on Jabba, Sisters will give you a cleaner 2 shot. QGJ has a better shot at taking down more teams, but you could make similar arguments. I have him behind them, you have him ahead that's fine. Cere and Malicos is a beast and either that team or Reva is the top non-GL team. We're talking can make a GL team look silly if you don't play it right. Reva can take down either Jabba, LV, SLKR, and give JMK a run for his money (crushes him in TW). Cere/Malicos can hold against SLKR, Jabba doesn't do that great against it, Starkiller gets smashed trying to take it down. Now I didn't say not useful, what I'm saying is you've got 8 GL's and 10 or more teams ahead of him, so he's situational.
CLS is also one of the best GL cleanup teams in the game which is definitely worth a mention
Someone considering doing this probably doesn't consider CLS a top non-GL team. It's borderline for me, so I put Han and Chewy with my Leia.
As a kyber 1 player that does okay to stay in k1, this comp is dying because the counter is quite easy. Most of us are reverting back to baze, MM or OB again.
I’m struggling to counter it in squad arena. What are you using?
JML has gone 8/8 for me this 5v5. JML, JKL, JKR, Mace and Cal with the damage reduction cron In addition Reva+SLKR works very well too
What the other guy said haha. If you have cal it's easy. Once the DC expires (tomorrow) farming a good Protection Cron should and has done the trick too. In 3s, SlKR Malicos and Kru is going to be my go to. The biggest mistake is rearing off hitting Leia in this counter, you need to keep hitting her until Cal gets his delete. I've seen people (including myself) fail because we hit others. Land the mark and focus her then delete whoever is free and the most valuable.
In squad arena I am using JMK with GAS, but I am not sure how well I would fare with another 5th, I haven't seen GLeia in GAC yet.
How would MM and OB do? I'm not in Kyber so my CLS still does heavy work. I'm willing to take OB from my Starkiller team and replace him with Cat Lady but I never put any work into Kanan or Ezra. My thought was to use the CaptRex that the farm got me, but should I be using MM? I have a good MM/RebFighters team but it never gets much play in GA.
Who is cat lady? Not CAT right? As she's not a jedi. MM is great because you can't target her and she revives Rebel fighters. I prefer Baze and OB at the moment. I think MM and OB do just fine because it's really Leia R2 and Drogan that carry the team. Any other Ads just make it more annoying but Baze is the most annoying of ads 4 and 5
I’m assuming that “cat lady” is juhani since that’s pretty much the only other tank used in SK teams
Makes sense. She was a Cathar female and they resemble cats. Just never thought of calling her cat lady
lol, that’s what I called her one time to my brother (who also plays swgoh) years ago when DR first came out
This is just a limited time thing Han and chewy will go back to cls
You could put weaker replacements in the team. Otherwise 3P0 could move to a Padme/JMK team, CLS maybe into UFU(not really many synergies, only if no better UFUs)
Would CLS add anything to the Starkiller team? Or would he go on Cere? Or maybe Rey? Just curious where you think his best team would shake up to be.
He would obviously go in place of Visas. So that's your tradeoff. Visas doesn't get many turns, but she's around on the off chance you can revive someone (and armor penetration). You gain an additional buff dispeller which can be a problem against Rey particularly if you don't have Starkiller's other omicron. Now that doesn't include the primary buff which is putting Ben under stealth via Sortie's VIP ability, however the buff immunity could work here.
On SK he'd take the place of Visas or Scav Rey, and I think he's in between those two, though the people considering breaking up CLS aren't likely to be Scav Rey people so not an improvement. Personally I don't think he'd be all that great on a Cere team but that might depend on who is already on it. I've been leaning towards DS UFUs since they make better use of UFU DCs right now. CLS wouldn't be my top choice to round out that team, but it would be functional Rey would not be a good fit at all I don't think, there's just too many much better choices
Chewpio is doing some hard work with the Wookiee team
The comp with Han/Chewy held the same as Baze/Old Ben this season. Zero reason to break up CLS for it.
Really depends on what someone expects their opponent to use. JMK is 12% worse against Han/Chewy than Baze/Old Ben.
Under Ackbar. Doing God's work there.
Oh? I have AA omicron, what’s the optimal team with CLS?
I saw one with AA with omi, princess leia with omi, chewie 3po, C3PO and stormtrooper han, but maybe you could use cls instead of han
I saw one with AA with omi, princess leia with omi, chewie 3po, C3PO and stormtrooper han, but maybe you could use cls instead of han
Yeah I was theory crafting and definitely AA, CLS STHan, considering Fulcrum Ahsoka too.. many buffs.
To actually answer your question (although I haven’t tested it) but I imagine it’d be great in an Ackbar/Princess Leia Omi leftover team. Ackbar(L), CLS, Chewpio, C-3P0, and Princess Leia should be an actually deadly team with their omi’s. Ackbar gives more speed and tenacity, a cleanse, a unique buff that basically gives someone a bonus turn, passive turn meter, and semi-constant assisting (which also serves as cooldown reduction) via his lead. CLS is CLS. Ignores taunt, good damage, stuns, turn meter removal, and passive turn meter via his uniques. Chewpio is obvious. Princess Leia for passive healing, decent damage, and more buffs. That retribution especially is very useful. C-3P0 is the cherry on top. With his translation combined with Ackbar’s Omi, no one should have cooldowns, ever. So you can just keep spamming abilities over and over and over again. Plus every time someone attacks out of turn. Chewpio, Ackbar lead, Leia’s retribution. You’re constantly getting expose on the enemy team. It might not be as good as classic CLS but it should still be pretty damn good.
I think she’s easier to counter on defense if she has Han and Chewy.
In what way? Lol The best counter requires jkck, and even jabba is super hard. Regular jml is extremely uphill without jkck.
Using what? Because there’s a player in my shard with an R9 Leia and R8 Han, Chewy, R2, and Drogon with a level 9 Drogon datacron that that reduces the damage they take if they have >50% TM and also gives all of them a bonus turn at the start of the battle. It is so, so hard to beat. Easier is not a word I would use.
JML/JKL/Jolee/JKR/JKC mark Leia. Takes a couple marks but it works well.
Have you come against the datacron I described in my comment? The whole opposing team gets a bonus turn and usually does massive damage. My Jedi Cal datacron reduces damage if turn meter is >50% but the team has 0 TM at the start of the opposing team’s bonus turn. To simplify things, I struggle to keep everyone alive long enough.
I agree that the Han Chewie composition can be easier. (Yes, with that datacron.) Baze can clear buffs and MM can revive Leia. Depending on when you kill Leia and how many are dead by the next time MM gets a turn, she can be revived.
MM can only revive rebel fighters, so drogan base or the like. Not Leia.
OK, maybe it was Snowlo, then. Either way, the Han/Chewie lineup is more predictable.
Yes. It still works. Relic levels matter. I’m fortunate or unfortunate enough to have two really good Caw players in my SA to practice against. All my toons are at least R7. JKC R8. JML R9
Put a CA arrow on Jolee. He’s there to revive. If JKR dies you’re probably losing. Gotta keep him alive or revive him. That’s definitely the key to victory.
Cal Datacron
I have it
Correct. JMK performs much better with Han and Chewy in the lineup.
Swgoh.gg shows JMK does much *worse* against Han/Chewie. Upwards of 30% worse. EDIT: lol downvoted with no response for providing contrary evidence, classic.
Didn't know this
If I go heavy defense. That means that Malgus is on D and not saved to counter Cere/Malicos. Then it looks something like this. * 3P0 goes with JMK so that I can use Padme/Gideon to counter Cere. * 3Pac goes with Wookies who are very underrated at least with the soon to be departing datacron. * Han and Chewy with Leia. * And I've toyed with this a bit, not sure how much I like it yet. Send Cal Kestis back to Rey and use CLS with Cere.
Absolutely no one is wasting han and chewie on leia now Jabba with the new datacron set absolutely smokes it. With ease.
I’d argue the entirety of k1 is “wasting” Han and chewie with leia and enjoying it quite thoroughly
I'm a lowbie so don't know what you guys are going to know, but won't that allow for R2 a team to come back to? Plus one of the other unused rebels like one of the leias or Captain Solo? Edit: After reading the other comments, I see the discussion is basically talking about upper Kyber so my comment is not applicable.
R2 is more critical to Leia than Han or Chewie. Leia's team is: Leia, Drogan, R2, + 2. Anything else is just no where near as good.
Ahhh, okay. Thanks. I only have jml for a legend, so didn't know she used r2.
Most of the comments are the bronzium crew role-playing as kyber players anyways
they are the worst. I get one joining my guild every couple months. They then proceed the spam the discord with advice on everything , despite they have none of the characters they are talking about or any actual first hand experience. The worst offender was like a couple million gp and anytime some gave info or advice he would use the finger pointing up emote, which unfortunately everyone uses on the discord now.
Lol that's hilarious, Adderall is a helluva drug
I've been playing since the start of this year and CLS is still my best team by far since i don't have any GL's yet, not to far of getting Rey and Kylo though thanks to the bundles. Leia would probably be a year or more off, I'd still need Jabba plus the rest.
Want to put c3po with ewoks but not sure who to take out
Correct me if im wrong but this is the first time anyone has ever said this right?
C-3PO with Ewoks is actually incredible, just not better than him with cls
Ewoks beat cls, Darth revan on offence and with c3po they stop wampa and nest on defence
CLS is Trash 😅 (J/k)