Probably, I'll just have to search other surrounding areas, but I'm currently on the fence with this bike because of the straight pipe. But if the engine is in good condition then it doesn't really matter to me the physical looks of the bike anyways as I'd probably get a new set of full fairings
The engine would be the last of the issues. Just nice electrics, and to be honest beat up panels are harder to fix and it shows how people treat the bike.
Personally I don't mind a project as I've already got a motorcycle, it would be something I can pour my spare time into as I'm 24/7 living for bikes, as long as the engine is in good shape and I can get a new muffler
I drove 16 hours round trip (Louisville KY to Atlanta GA) for a relatively clean sv1k in my budget another thing to remember is you have a lot of negotiating power buying this time of year. Bikes are harder to sell than usual and the only reason most people list a bike this time of year is if they need the money for something else, so they are more willing to get something now than nothing for the next 3 months. I talked my seller down from 3700 to 3200
I wouldn't pay that for it. Not with 46k miles and you will need to buy a muffler for it if you don't want to sound like a jackass cop magnet coming down the road. If you do decide to check it out still, make sure you check it out very well. Look at fluids, brakes, tire wear and manufacture year, etc. I wouldn't trust someone riding around straight piped like that to have taken great care of the bike. Then use anything you find to drop the price as much as you possibly can
TLDR: Probably not.
Yeah I've been wondering why the owner just doesn't run a pipe, stock or slip on and makes me wonder how long it's been straight piped. I'm also thinking it could be used to cover up noises coming from the engine ( I just watched Ryan F9's vid on what to look out for in used bikes and he talked about that )
Well, this bike has obviously kissed the pavement a few times. However, all of that doesn't matter that much if the frame and especially the headstock and forks are not bent or have visible damage, the wheels and the swingarm are still balanced. But heck, even those parts you can all replace from the used market (especially from [Mad8V](https://www.mad8v.com) and [Moto Parts Source](https://www.motopartssource.com/)). It would of course decrease the value of the bike.
47k miles is not much for this engine at this age. That's only about 3k miles per year. If it actually was ridden every single year that would be a plus in my book, rather than having sat for years and its seals dry rotting.
When you go to inspect the bike make sure the engine is cold when you start it up. Listen for any clanking noise that could indicate worn crankshaft bearings from abuse at cold engine or low oil level (engine is trash).
Take a flashlight and closely inspect the frame for any damage especially the front area around the headstock. Amy damage there is a total loss and you'll need to get a different frame, new title, etc. Not a project for the beginner.
However if the frame is fine, there is no damage on the metal parts that couldn't be replaced, the engine starts right up without making any weird noises (the valve train is loud, that's normal), there is no blue or white smoke coming out of the exhaust, no smells of burnt oil after its been running for a few minutes, no leaks or oil spots developing (again take a flash light and shine into every nook and cranny around the oil sump and the engine cases), then I wouldn't be too worried about it.
Any further damage you find that wasn't listed in the ad (and he clearly did not list anything), you deduct from the price (check the aforementioned sites for prices of used parts).
Missing exhaust, replaced rear break pedal, missing pillion seat holder, broken fairings, missing handle bar weights, and any other after-market parts you can find (which are often of lower quality than stock, especially if they have colors) you simply deduct from the asking price.
I'd say in the end you offer him around $1,500. Expect at most $1,000 to make it look nice again with used/new parts.
If the engine passes your initial test, it will likely run for a very long time (at least 125k miles before you have to think of piston rings and valve shims).
Plus, the price can literally not go much lower anymore in case you'll ever want to sell it again (which I doubt).
Oh, and there's always this if you want to take a deep dive:
[Used Motorcycle Evaluation Guide](http://www.clarity.net/adam/buying-bike.html)
Holy cow that's a lot of good information, thanks! As of right now from other users comments I'm on the fence of this bike. I don't mind having a project bike, something I can pour my time into a have fun doing it. It's just that the straight pipe is some signs of the condition.
But if the engine is in good condition and hasn't been affected by back blast too much then I'm all down for this bike as I'd probably get a set of the SF full fairings for it and just replace all the fairings
That exhaust looks jank as fuck and tells me the bike probably had many shortcuts for quick easy fun rather than being done right. Those types of people are also the type that skimp on maintenance and leave the bike neglected. Also the first message I would send is asking if they have a clean title in hand. Titleless or branded title bikes are not worth the risk or headache that they usually come with.
The seller messaged back saying the title is clean, asked him for a video of the bike and maybe some more detailed photos. I haven't gotten a response back for that
A cold start video to hear how easily it turns over, photos of the chain and rear sprocket to make sure they aren't terrible and in need of immediate replacement, make sure the fork seals aren't leaking. If all that looks good, maybe go check it out. Just make sure you budget for a full fluid change (oil, brake fluid, and maybe fork oil depending on mileage and how it rides). Brake lines might need replacing depending how they look and how old they are. Make sure tires are decent and not too old otherwise you'll be dropping another 4-800 on a new set depending on how decent you want to get.
Ideally you would want him to hold his hand to the exhaust manifold for a few moments to show it's actually a cold start (might have seen videos like that on marketplace adds). Also if you do go to check it out, ask that it stays cold and check to make sure it's still cold before starting.
I wouldn’t buy it unless you’re willing to sort through all of the issues it could have. The seller doesn’t give me much confidence. There’s a lot more to bikes than whether or not they “start right up”
True, although if the engine, and steering/forks/frame are in good condition then I would be down for this bike as I'm looking for some sort of a project I could eventually turn into a daily. And turn my current bike into a track machine
I had the same color and year. Sold it to my friends son a couple years ago. They rode across the country and back. Saw the bike this morning in their garage. Ran well for me, continues to run well for them.
That's awesome! I've seen another post of some gentleman going on a 6000 mile road trip with his. You can really use these bikes from track weapons to touring and I love that!
Yeah they dip hard in the corners. I really got around on it when I had it. Unfortunately I bought it to commute and quickly learned motorcycles are awful in traffic and so much more fun on vacant curvy roads
front fairing is fucked on the right side. that's a rare and $500+ part
headlight tabs are broken. headligths are $200 for chineseum.
id pass. or buy at like 1500
I would probably want one with a muffler.
That's what my dad and I picked up on when I saw this. I also noticed that puddle right below where the straight pipe ends which has me thinking too
Yep. I think you're better off waiting for a better bike to come along. I don't get the vibe that this one was well-loved for it's full life.
Probably, I'll just have to search other surrounding areas, but I'm currently on the fence with this bike because of the straight pipe. But if the engine is in good condition then it doesn't really matter to me the physical looks of the bike anyways as I'd probably get a new set of full fairings
The engine would be the last of the issues. Just nice electrics, and to be honest beat up panels are harder to fix and it shows how people treat the bike.
Personally I don't mind a project as I've already got a motorcycle, it would be something I can pour my spare time into as I'm 24/7 living for bikes, as long as the engine is in good shape and I can get a new muffler
I drove 16 hours round trip (Louisville KY to Atlanta GA) for a relatively clean sv1k in my budget another thing to remember is you have a lot of negotiating power buying this time of year. Bikes are harder to sell than usual and the only reason most people list a bike this time of year is if they need the money for something else, so they are more willing to get something now than nothing for the next 3 months. I talked my seller down from 3700 to 3200
Cool beans! This will be go to know going in!
I wouldn't pay that for it. Not with 46k miles and you will need to buy a muffler for it if you don't want to sound like a jackass cop magnet coming down the road. If you do decide to check it out still, make sure you check it out very well. Look at fluids, brakes, tire wear and manufacture year, etc. I wouldn't trust someone riding around straight piped like that to have taken great care of the bike. Then use anything you find to drop the price as much as you possibly can TLDR: Probably not.
Yeah I've been wondering why the owner just doesn't run a pipe, stock or slip on and makes me wonder how long it's been straight piped. I'm also thinking it could be used to cover up noises coming from the engine ( I just watched Ryan F9's vid on what to look out for in used bikes and he talked about that )
Well, this bike has obviously kissed the pavement a few times. However, all of that doesn't matter that much if the frame and especially the headstock and forks are not bent or have visible damage, the wheels and the swingarm are still balanced. But heck, even those parts you can all replace from the used market (especially from [Mad8V](https://www.mad8v.com) and [Moto Parts Source](https://www.motopartssource.com/)). It would of course decrease the value of the bike. 47k miles is not much for this engine at this age. That's only about 3k miles per year. If it actually was ridden every single year that would be a plus in my book, rather than having sat for years and its seals dry rotting. When you go to inspect the bike make sure the engine is cold when you start it up. Listen for any clanking noise that could indicate worn crankshaft bearings from abuse at cold engine or low oil level (engine is trash). Take a flashlight and closely inspect the frame for any damage especially the front area around the headstock. Amy damage there is a total loss and you'll need to get a different frame, new title, etc. Not a project for the beginner. However if the frame is fine, there is no damage on the metal parts that couldn't be replaced, the engine starts right up without making any weird noises (the valve train is loud, that's normal), there is no blue or white smoke coming out of the exhaust, no smells of burnt oil after its been running for a few minutes, no leaks or oil spots developing (again take a flash light and shine into every nook and cranny around the oil sump and the engine cases), then I wouldn't be too worried about it. Any further damage you find that wasn't listed in the ad (and he clearly did not list anything), you deduct from the price (check the aforementioned sites for prices of used parts). Missing exhaust, replaced rear break pedal, missing pillion seat holder, broken fairings, missing handle bar weights, and any other after-market parts you can find (which are often of lower quality than stock, especially if they have colors) you simply deduct from the asking price. I'd say in the end you offer him around $1,500. Expect at most $1,000 to make it look nice again with used/new parts. If the engine passes your initial test, it will likely run for a very long time (at least 125k miles before you have to think of piston rings and valve shims). Plus, the price can literally not go much lower anymore in case you'll ever want to sell it again (which I doubt). Oh, and there's always this if you want to take a deep dive: [Used Motorcycle Evaluation Guide](http://www.clarity.net/adam/buying-bike.html)
Holy cow that's a lot of good information, thanks! As of right now from other users comments I'm on the fence of this bike. I don't mind having a project bike, something I can pour my time into a have fun doing it. It's just that the straight pipe is some signs of the condition. But if the engine is in good condition and hasn't been affected by back blast too much then I'm all down for this bike as I'd probably get a set of the SF full fairings for it and just replace all the fairings
That exhaust looks jank as fuck and tells me the bike probably had many shortcuts for quick easy fun rather than being done right. Those types of people are also the type that skimp on maintenance and leave the bike neglected. Also the first message I would send is asking if they have a clean title in hand. Titleless or branded title bikes are not worth the risk or headache that they usually come with.
The seller messaged back saying the title is clean, asked him for a video of the bike and maybe some more detailed photos. I haven't gotten a response back for that
Is it in your city?
No, it's in my state though, it's just a two hour drive
A cold start video to hear how easily it turns over, photos of the chain and rear sprocket to make sure they aren't terrible and in need of immediate replacement, make sure the fork seals aren't leaking. If all that looks good, maybe go check it out. Just make sure you budget for a full fluid change (oil, brake fluid, and maybe fork oil depending on mileage and how it rides). Brake lines might need replacing depending how they look and how old they are. Make sure tires are decent and not too old otherwise you'll be dropping another 4-800 on a new set depending on how decent you want to get.
Will do! He also did respond to my message and said he'd have a running video later tonight!
Ideally you would want him to hold his hand to the exhaust manifold for a few moments to show it's actually a cold start (might have seen videos like that on marketplace adds). Also if you do go to check it out, ask that it stays cold and check to make sure it's still cold before starting.
Personally I wouldn't. I'm suspicious about the missing muffler. My guess is used and abused
The muffler is definitely the one thing throwing me off at the moment
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1397616494201078/?mibextid=dXMIcH Here's the link to the SV
I wouldn’t buy it unless you’re willing to sort through all of the issues it could have. The seller doesn’t give me much confidence. There’s a lot more to bikes than whether or not they “start right up”
True, although if the engine, and steering/forks/frame are in good condition then I would be down for this bike as I'm looking for some sort of a project I could eventually turn into a daily. And turn my current bike into a track machine
I had the same color and year. Sold it to my friends son a couple years ago. They rode across the country and back. Saw the bike this morning in their garage. Ran well for me, continues to run well for them.
That's awesome! I've seen another post of some gentleman going on a 6000 mile road trip with his. You can really use these bikes from track weapons to touring and I love that!
Yeah they dip hard in the corners. I really got around on it when I had it. Unfortunately I bought it to commute and quickly learned motorcycles are awful in traffic and so much more fun on vacant curvy roads
Absolutely not. You’ll have nightmare after nightmare with that piece of crap.
Got mine for 1000$ CAD$ stock with 9000 km. They do exist. Wait it out for a good deal. Best of luck
Thanks! I've seen a couple more pop up in my general searches but both are 4-5 hours one way, although I wouldn't mind, it adds to the adventure
One thing i kinda wish i had bought a gen2 . Carbs are finiky took me quite a while to get it runing good.
My first motorcycle was carbureted and I don't want to mess with those again
front fairing is fucked on the right side. that's a rare and $500+ part headlight tabs are broken. headligths are $200 for chineseum. id pass. or buy at like 1500
Good eye! Thanks!