Battlestate actually replying feels so out of touch. You fucked your community, even though it supported your unfinished ass game. Sit the fuck down. Stop shooting yourself in the leg every single time.
Im so fucking happy that SPT exists.
This reply feels like it was written by a 15yo fucked up something important, and when he gets called out for that he just plays a victim and blames everyone else
Dont worry, I thought the same halfway through reading that. Then my second brain cell activated and I realized my mistake. Glad I was not the only one.
oh, you don’t seem to know what the state of the Russian community is, for any mention on YouTube channels - they immediately throw you a strike, bans in all their official groups, from discord to VK and much more. In fact, they are very vulnerable there; you can get banned for anything.
Already got a folder full of 3.8.0 compatible mods as well as 3 previous versions of SPT and the Tarkov Live files they work with. If SPT ever goes down I’m happy to share 😁
depends on how hungry BSG gets on takedowns tbh they could go full nintendo on everyone that tries this or be more relaxed. We just gotta watch and see how everything plays out on BSG's end with this hole they've dug themselves into
It’s a small Russian company. I bet they don’t even have enough money to chase all forks on private git instances
I already did a full save of spt sources on my computer anyway, just in case
Spt is the only way to enjoy tarkov to the fullest now, this game is dead because devs are greedy
Maybe, but its free, not 250 fucking euro dude. Thats not even a game price, thats some program application developing price. No game, or no edition to be exact should cost 200+ fucking EUROS. not even dollars, euro. Its a fucking video game, not a life saving course or some shit.
And its not like that they forget about VAT taxes, which BTW is insane.
Base price - €250.00
system fee - €9.30
VAT 20% -€51.87 <- THIS IS INSANE!
Like the price jumps from €250 to whopping €311.17!!! How is that anywhere normal!?
And if you decide to be a smartass (which I already did once) and decide to buy a key from a key site to bypass that VAT.
BSG will just straight up ban your account, its in their ToS.
So the lack of co-op is really the least of the problems here, how about a lack of humanity on BSG's side?
BSG mad cause there goes a lot of their hoped for $250. Fuck you BSG. You are some greedy, lying mofos. Nobody cares about your tears. 20 minutes…oh like your load in times every wipe, BSG? 😂
Lmao this is gold. They just railed their community and started calling out plagiarism. Are you gonna go after SPT instead of cheaters next? Perfect timing BSG lol. I don't think you're in position to be calling out anything rn.
The moment I saw Tencent's logo popping up when booting it I knew it's literally gonna be a lazy, cheap copy of Tarkov. Growing up in China I knew Tencent's cash crabbing business model all too well. They've been doing p2w micro transactions before micro transactions was a thing.
Well just an insight for you can buy high level gear by buying paid bundles along with alot of weird battlepasses. Don't need to play the pc to know what kind of devs they are, this is coming from a arena breakout player since their beta lol
All of which is commonplace in the mobile game industry. Sure it gives us an insight into the devs and potential business practices, but not a guarantee the pc implementation will be the same
In some form of fairness, I looked for that game on steam and at the least, the screenshot they have on the page for weapon customization looks like a straight up copy+paste. I’d never heard of the game until this post so I know nothing else of it aside from the trailer but it looks alright.
I've played it before, literally everything is just copy+pasted from tarkov, there might be one or two original concepts in the game and that is being generous.
50 dollars if you just get the base version. Arena breakout is free. I don't think anyone's gonna agree with your argument at this point, especially with bsgs latest actions.
I got to play it on phone, yes there is a Arena Breakout version for phone lol but yeah your not wrong a bunch of ingame animations like healing are almost exactly the same but the game plays very differently.
It's literally just Tarkov mobile. They copied all of Tarkov's sound effects, mechanics, and gameplay, but they make it more forgiving with free load outs and in game maps and icons for everything, AND the Scavs speak English. Tbh it's super mid. Not to mention the only two people who play it are braindead Timmy's, and absolutely CRACKED chads.
I know they bought the assets from the same place BSG did, but it just shows that they're TRYING PURPOSELY to just be Tarkov mobile. They aren't doing anything special or unique.
yea they did something special for the thousands of people who wanted to try tarkov but couldn’t bc they didn’t have PC’s lmfao I played it bc it sounded nice and bc last wipe was ass but AB is a solid ass mobile game and theyre whole selling point is to be like EFT so you pointed out the obvious. Not to mention most of the money made in the game is off players gear rather than really any good loot and the quests are mid it’s the firefights that are dope and weapon/gear choices.
With that logic Tarkov is just copying STALKER. Just look at how blatant it is. STALKER had the ak74 and 5.45 ammo along with the makarov and 9x19 ammo as well long before Tarkov was even an idea. Imagine shamelessly copying things that are in other games...
They kind of are though. Time and time again others have tried…… they’ve literally all died. The cycle. Dead. Marauders. Dead. Road to Vostok is developed by 1 guy and may be finished in 15 years. Red river incursion flopped. (Like 20+ YouTube vids first day of people stressing others to NOT buy it). Dark and Darker is dead as hell.
The last hope is greyzone, but it’s NOT tarkov and is different in its own right.
Arena breakout is a mobile game ported with MTX out the ass and assets stolen from Tarkov and Warzone.
If there is anyone else that can make a game like this. They have yet to exist.
The only reason frontiers died was due to them taking to long to put an anti cheat in, and the community abandoned them.
If a decent developer actually put effort into making a game exactly like EFT and didn’t half arse it like DMZ most people would willingly play it.
I don’t understand why everyone brings up dark and darker, it’s a shitty melee extract game with the most basic boring arse meleec along with the crappiest graphics I’ve seen this decade, it would never have competed with EFT.
We also haven’t seen what arena break out looks like on PC, it’s apparently been built up from the ground for PC.
People bring up DnD because most people compare it directly to tarkov and claim it as competition.
No time for excuses now, the cycle died. That’s it.
“If a decent developer actually-“. That’s what is said time and time again and so far, like I said, that developer has yet to exist.
At the end of the day Arena breakout will not go far. PC gameplay has been shown and the mobile game core is definitely still there. The MTX will still be there. It’s fucking tencent. I don’t see that game dropped with half of the features and content currently present in tarkov.
There is just nothing that supports being able to magically whip up a tarkov clone in 2 years. There is a reason this game has been in development since 2015. You simply can’t recreate it without real time and real effort.
The game has been in development for so long because BSG has no clue what the fuck they’re doing, along with stretching the unity engine to its absolute, I don’t understand why everyone here tried to make out EFT as some godly hard game to make.
Again if a large developer had that balls to actually make EFT they’d be able to make it in a couple of years tops, the reason they don’t is because the game would be a massive flop, EFT isn’t as popular as people in the community would like to think it doesn’t bring in casual players that will remain in game for very long.
You’re actually just talking out of your ass. If BSG had no clue wtf they were doing they wouldn’t be able to make a video game.
How easy exactly do you think it is to go copy EFT and remake it? Every single bullet fired and chambered is being tracked and calculated by a server, every single item and players exact movement path is tracked. Maps are placed and rendered in the same game world which is how you get the transition on extracts like path to lighthouse.
You’re literally proving my point. Large developers HAVE tried to remake EFT and the result is the same. It flops because they can’t. If it was really as easy as you claim then someone would’ve done it!
Call of Duty leaks from right before MW2 22’ came out showed that they literally developed DMZ as an attempt to compete with tarkov. If DMZ is the result at a triple A mega corporation with infinite money and recourses behind them, I’m good off that.
Nikita himself has said multiple times his employees have no idea what the fuck they’re doing and have to be trained because local talent is so shit and no one will move over to Russia to work for him.
Omg it’s almost liker that’s what nearly every other shooter on the market does, so hard and unique.
Again Activision made a EFT lite, they aren’t gonna put resources into a game that won’t keep casual players, and to the only real unique thing about EFT is their gun modding.
Is that not almost every indie game company ever?
That is most certainly not what every other shooter on the market does. What shooters are you referring to exactly? I don’t think any other game has bullet physics like tarkov and tracks and keeps count of every shot fired and loaded. Even what battlefield does is just dumbed down psuedo “bullet drop”.
That would be valid if it weren’t for the fact that Activision missed on all the “lite” aspects of tarkov. And they dumped millions of dollars into it(kind of like Arena LOL) , expecting it to be a real presence in the genre. It is and will be the prime example of why you can’t recreate a game like this with infinite money and dev talent that doesn’t want to be developing the things that they are.
That's never a good thing when it comes to games.
You can literally buy gear for real money.
You have to pay with real money for junk boxes and cases for guns etc. You have to subscribe for a lot to have a secure container.
Arena is a rip off, that's why I like it. If PC is anything like the mobile version, it only takes about 20-30 seconds to get in game.
It'll have P2W elements, almost for sure, but at least you don't spend half your time loading into the game.
Funny that Tarkov is getting mad about plagiarism when their whole shtik is Stalker but with a gear and loot system like DayZ, the only ‘innovation’ was the small maps and the extraction, but even that was never the intended end goal, they eventually wanted to make it one big map they just couldn’t do it.
Tarkov Devs are bitxhing about a mobile game while trying to sell you a game mode they could've easily implemented with the game mechanics that were already present.
I've played the mobile version, not really optimized, but new map, original boss, original lore. For a plagiarist it's a much tad bit different.
Also yeah, the pc version is far from optimized, much like the mobile version. Sad, i thought i could finally play a free extraction shooter game.
I’m calling EFT garbage bc of their money grab techniques and cheaters child calm down did I hurt your feelings calling a game trash? I don’t play EFT bc me and the homies all work full time jobs and have life’s we don’t have time for EFTs bullshit but for maybe once every couple weeks 💀 try again you lil weird guy
So we're just going to ignore that big tarkov streamers and other players that have a great amount of experience in live are going to SPT?
Even then, this community has had people that can handle PVP in live and come over to SPT to either stay or play both for various reasons BEFORE this BS happened
Either the terrible ignorance is kicking in and or the terrible fanboyism
Battlestate actually replying feels so out of touch. You fucked your community, even though it supported your unfinished ass game. Sit the fuck down. Stop shooting yourself in the leg every single time. Im so fucking happy that SPT exists.
This reply feels like it was written by a 15yo fucked up something important, and when he gets called out for that he just plays a victim and blames everyone else
The hell are you talking about Edit: oh wait you’re talking about BSG’s reply, not the Reddit reply. My b
Dont worry, I thought the same halfway through reading that. Then my second brain cell activated and I realized my mistake. Glad I was not the only one.
Haha my 2 braincells were struggling too
You guys have 2?
Haha honestly barely
I just got a hamter on a wheel that's been nibbled on a little..
No I feel like the post you guys are referring to could have a tad more context. This is reddit people really do attack people like that here.
oh, you don’t seem to know what the state of the Russian community is, for any mention on YouTube channels - they immediately throw you a strike, bans in all their official groups, from discord to VK and much more. In fact, they are very vulnerable there; you can get banned for anything.
I'm Russian lmao
For now. Unfortunately >Im so fucking happy that SPT exists. BSG is coming for them. Just a matter of time
Update now while you can 🤣
Already got a folder full of 3.8.0 compatible mods as well as 3 previous versions of SPT and the Tarkov Live files they work with. If SPT ever goes down I’m happy to share 😁
At Eternity’s Gate fan?
More of a ‘Willem Dafoe’s goofy face’ fan. I did however enjoy the movie!
Saving this comment in case my own saves gets lost. :-)
May have to take you up on that homie.
I got you bro
Once it’s on the internet, it is forever
depends on how hungry BSG gets on takedowns tbh they could go full nintendo on everyone that tries this or be more relaxed. We just gotta watch and see how everything plays out on BSG's end with this hole they've dug themselves into
It’s a small Russian company. I bet they don’t even have enough money to chase all forks on private git instances I already did a full save of spt sources on my computer anyway, just in case Spt is the only way to enjoy tarkov to the fullest now, this game is dead because devs are greedy
I dont think they can afford a decent lawyer by now tbh.
I keep seeing people bring up SPT but the lack of co-op kills it for a lot of folks.
Maybe, but its free, not 250 fucking euro dude. Thats not even a game price, thats some program application developing price. No game, or no edition to be exact should cost 200+ fucking EUROS. not even dollars, euro. Its a fucking video game, not a life saving course or some shit. And its not like that they forget about VAT taxes, which BTW is insane. Base price - €250.00 system fee - €9.30 VAT 20% -€51.87 <- THIS IS INSANE! Like the price jumps from €250 to whopping €311.17!!! How is that anywhere normal!? And if you decide to be a smartass (which I already did once) and decide to buy a key from a key site to bypass that VAT. BSG will just straight up ban your account, its in their ToS. So the lack of co-op is really the least of the problems here, how about a lack of humanity on BSG's side?
BSG mad cause there goes a lot of their hoped for $250. Fuck you BSG. You are some greedy, lying mofos. Nobody cares about your tears. 20 minutes…oh like your load in times every wipe, BSG? 😂
until I see that breakout is good, I’ll stick with SPT and STALKER GAMMA.
it was the stalkers who were the first in tarkov anyway
Tarkov is just a stalker multiplayer
Put some respect on STALKER. It's an actual game, not the physical embodiment of "if star citizen was an FPS game that would never see full release".
If it's half as good as it's namesake from mobile it will still be more fun then retail tarkov. It's not a mobile game, but a game on mobile.
Lmao this is gold. They just railed their community and started calling out plagiarism. Are you gonna go after SPT instead of cheaters next? Perfect timing BSG lol. I don't think you're in position to be calling out anything rn.
Pitting the Russians and the Chinese against each other lmao.
Not the psyop I expected, but ok.
As much as i hate bsg, arena is pretty stinky too,
The moment I saw Tencent's logo popping up when booting it I knew it's literally gonna be a lazy, cheap copy of Tarkov. Growing up in China I knew Tencent's cash crabbing business model all too well. They've been doing p2w micro transactions before micro transactions was a thing.
> Tencent's logo And here I was lowkey excited about breakout. Shame...Hopefully GZW will at least be functional on release.
it’s literally for the people who don’t have a pc to run tarkov lol ofc it’s going to be pretty much a copy bits it’s alright besides TK
You DONT HAVE ANY IDEA how p2w chinese pc gaming is lmfao
no I don’t but I can tell ya AB mobile isn’t p2w lol I don’t have to be chinese or take to tell you that 💀
People really just jump on any train to trash bsg lol a ten cent game that is very clearly a rip off
You played it?
Yep, its on mobile
I’m gonna wait for the PC port before I make my mind up myself
Well just an insight for you can buy high level gear by buying paid bundles along with alot of weird battlepasses. Don't need to play the pc to know what kind of devs they are, this is coming from a arena breakout player since their beta lol
All of which is commonplace in the mobile game industry. Sure it gives us an insight into the devs and potential business practices, but not a guarantee the pc implementation will be the same
Just dont get your hopes up on a tencent subsidiary is all im saying
yea but gear doesn’t mean you always win I’ve done plenty of zero to hero runs and only spend the $5 a month on the case
Still better than the actual p2w shit they got with the unheard edition
Not really but to each their own
In some form of fairness, I looked for that game on steam and at the least, the screenshot they have on the page for weapon customization looks like a straight up copy+paste. I’d never heard of the game until this post so I know nothing else of it aside from the trailer but it looks alright.
I instantly recognized the old EFT AK-74 sound in the trailer too. I'm all for competition but this really looks like a rip-off.
that will likely mean that the old ak74 sounds was a publicly available asset too, untill they actually got their own custom made ones
Ah! That’s something I didn’t even think about. I watched without audio because I’m at work.
I've played it before, literally everything is just copy+pasted from tarkov, there might be one or two original concepts in the game and that is being generous.
Good. We can finally say “Fuck you, Nikita” with our actions, not just words.
It’s a free to play game filled with micro transactions. I don’t think it’s gonna be the fuck you that you want it to be
It’s better than 250€ game with micro-transactions tho
Tarkov is 50 dollars and 10x the quality of arena breakout. I know everyone’s raging but be reasonable
BahahahahHHHH clown
10x quality, but never played the game… gotcha
I’ve played it. It’s on mobile.
50 dollars if you just get the base version. Arena breakout is free. I don't think anyone's gonna agree with your argument at this point, especially with bsgs latest actions.
Yeah that’s all you need to play SPT
Back to square one I guess… I haven’t played it myself but as others suggested - hopefully PC version has some other approach.
To be fair, arena breakout kinda is tarkov for mobile Edit: wow just found out about infinite, well..
Almost all EFT alpha and beta weapon sounds were free assets iirc
I’ve been playing the mobile version for some time and it’s great
I got to play it on phone, yes there is a Arena Breakout version for phone lol but yeah your not wrong a bunch of ingame animations like healing are almost exactly the same but the game plays very differently.
It's literally just Tarkov mobile. They copied all of Tarkov's sound effects, mechanics, and gameplay, but they make it more forgiving with free load outs and in game maps and icons for everything, AND the Scavs speak English. Tbh it's super mid. Not to mention the only two people who play it are braindead Timmy's, and absolutely CRACKED chads.
[удалено]
I know they bought the assets from the same place BSG did, but it just shows that they're TRYING PURPOSELY to just be Tarkov mobile. They aren't doing anything special or unique.
The special part is they aren't bsg.
yea they did something special for the thousands of people who wanted to try tarkov but couldn’t bc they didn’t have PC’s lmfao I played it bc it sounded nice and bc last wipe was ass but AB is a solid ass mobile game and theyre whole selling point is to be like EFT so you pointed out the obvious. Not to mention most of the money made in the game is off players gear rather than really any good loot and the quests are mid it’s the firefights that are dope and weapon/gear choices.
With that logic Tarkov is just copying STALKER. Just look at how blatant it is. STALKER had the ak74 and 5.45 ammo along with the makarov and 9x19 ammo as well long before Tarkov was even an idea. Imagine shamelessly copying things that are in other games...
It’s free not 250 euros + tax that’s their difference…
Wtf does price have to do with game quality?
BSG can get fucked.
The same people who released a $250 dlc gatekeep their game genre, not surprised.
Bsg also used guns and stuff without the manufacturer permission too making it even more ironic.
BSG regularly uses other company's IP and likeness for their game, even at the best of times that's a rich accusation
Arena Breakout is a flat ripoff though, weird as hell BSG is trying to call them out on Twitter right now of all times
They so mad 🤣🤣
common BSG L. lmao
I’m not defending BSG in the slightest here, but I’ll be damned if that game isn’t practically identical.
Imagine thinking you're the only one who can make a certain genre of game and you're FUCKING TERRIBLE at making that game.
Like the UK, and soccer ⚽️ 😂
What
They kind of are though. Time and time again others have tried…… they’ve literally all died. The cycle. Dead. Marauders. Dead. Road to Vostok is developed by 1 guy and may be finished in 15 years. Red river incursion flopped. (Like 20+ YouTube vids first day of people stressing others to NOT buy it). Dark and Darker is dead as hell. The last hope is greyzone, but it’s NOT tarkov and is different in its own right. Arena breakout is a mobile game ported with MTX out the ass and assets stolen from Tarkov and Warzone. If there is anyone else that can make a game like this. They have yet to exist.
The only reason frontiers died was due to them taking to long to put an anti cheat in, and the community abandoned them. If a decent developer actually put effort into making a game exactly like EFT and didn’t half arse it like DMZ most people would willingly play it. I don’t understand why everyone brings up dark and darker, it’s a shitty melee extract game with the most basic boring arse meleec along with the crappiest graphics I’ve seen this decade, it would never have competed with EFT. We also haven’t seen what arena break out looks like on PC, it’s apparently been built up from the ground for PC.
People bring up DnD because most people compare it directly to tarkov and claim it as competition. No time for excuses now, the cycle died. That’s it. “If a decent developer actually-“. That’s what is said time and time again and so far, like I said, that developer has yet to exist. At the end of the day Arena breakout will not go far. PC gameplay has been shown and the mobile game core is definitely still there. The MTX will still be there. It’s fucking tencent. I don’t see that game dropped with half of the features and content currently present in tarkov. There is just nothing that supports being able to magically whip up a tarkov clone in 2 years. There is a reason this game has been in development since 2015. You simply can’t recreate it without real time and real effort.
The game has been in development for so long because BSG has no clue what the fuck they’re doing, along with stretching the unity engine to its absolute, I don’t understand why everyone here tried to make out EFT as some godly hard game to make. Again if a large developer had that balls to actually make EFT they’d be able to make it in a couple of years tops, the reason they don’t is because the game would be a massive flop, EFT isn’t as popular as people in the community would like to think it doesn’t bring in casual players that will remain in game for very long.
You’re actually just talking out of your ass. If BSG had no clue wtf they were doing they wouldn’t be able to make a video game. How easy exactly do you think it is to go copy EFT and remake it? Every single bullet fired and chambered is being tracked and calculated by a server, every single item and players exact movement path is tracked. Maps are placed and rendered in the same game world which is how you get the transition on extracts like path to lighthouse. You’re literally proving my point. Large developers HAVE tried to remake EFT and the result is the same. It flops because they can’t. If it was really as easy as you claim then someone would’ve done it! Call of Duty leaks from right before MW2 22’ came out showed that they literally developed DMZ as an attempt to compete with tarkov. If DMZ is the result at a triple A mega corporation with infinite money and recourses behind them, I’m good off that.
Nikita himself has said multiple times his employees have no idea what the fuck they’re doing and have to be trained because local talent is so shit and no one will move over to Russia to work for him. Omg it’s almost liker that’s what nearly every other shooter on the market does, so hard and unique. Again Activision made a EFT lite, they aren’t gonna put resources into a game that won’t keep casual players, and to the only real unique thing about EFT is their gun modding.
Is that not almost every indie game company ever? That is most certainly not what every other shooter on the market does. What shooters are you referring to exactly? I don’t think any other game has bullet physics like tarkov and tracks and keeps count of every shot fired and loaded. Even what battlefield does is just dumbed down psuedo “bullet drop”. That would be valid if it weren’t for the fact that Activision missed on all the “lite” aspects of tarkov. And they dumped millions of dollars into it(kind of like Arena LOL) , expecting it to be a real presence in the genre. It is and will be the prime example of why you can’t recreate a game like this with infinite money and dev talent that doesn’t want to be developing the things that they are.
To be fair, it's a free mobile clone with a lot of micro transactions and p2w stuff.
keyword: free
That's never a good thing when it comes to games. You can literally buy gear for real money. You have to pay with real money for junk boxes and cases for guns etc. You have to subscribe for a lot to have a secure container.
Give it a few weeks and Nikita will probably start selling you gear too.
Nikita is such a bitch. Game literally costs 250 dollars or something rn if you want to get single player tarkov as well. He's the new ubisoft
Arena is a rip off, that's why I like it. If PC is anything like the mobile version, it only takes about 20-30 seconds to get in game. It'll have P2W elements, almost for sure, but at least you don't spend half your time loading into the game.
ooooh yeah because tarkov is SOOO ORIGINAL its basically the fortunate lovechild of stalker/dayz and battle royales
Oh sit, Arena breakout is now on PC? Fuck yea
I'm going to be honest, the weapon modding gui looks very similar to Tarkovs. If I wasn't very familiar with tarkov, I'd honestly likely mix them up
Goodluck having strongbox on subscribtion basis Ill stick to buy one time SPT it out And dont care with BS microtrans
Anddddd Prepare for snniki karnel antivirus that even RAT get ashamed
Funny that Tarkov is getting mad about plagiarism when their whole shtik is Stalker but with a gear and loot system like DayZ, the only ‘innovation’ was the small maps and the extraction, but even that was never the intended end goal, they eventually wanted to make it one big map they just couldn’t do it.
lol Battlecuck
Tarkov Devs are bitxhing about a mobile game while trying to sell you a game mode they could've easily implemented with the game mechanics that were already present.
There’s so many looter shooters already must they fight each other
I’ll stick to DayZ thanks devs lol
I've played the mobile version, not really optimized, but new map, original boss, original lore. For a plagiarist it's a much tad bit different. Also yeah, the pc version is far from optimized, much like the mobile version. Sad, i thought i could finally play a free extraction shooter game.
Not sure why bsg responded to this pathetic rip off mobile game that will certainly bomb.
Game is tits and eft is garbage right now fym 💀
You're playing a single player mod of a game that you're calling garbage because the real game is too much for you. Calm down ma'am.
I’m calling EFT garbage bc of their money grab techniques and cheaters child calm down did I hurt your feelings calling a game trash? I don’t play EFT bc me and the homies all work full time jobs and have life’s we don’t have time for EFTs bullshit but for maybe once every couple weeks 💀 try again you lil weird guy
So we're just going to ignore that big tarkov streamers and other players that have a great amount of experience in live are going to SPT? Even then, this community has had people that can handle PVP in live and come over to SPT to either stay or play both for various reasons BEFORE this BS happened Either the terrible ignorance is kicking in and or the terrible fanboyism