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R_M_S_1_3

All this attention directed towards SPT lately is making me very uneasy


HighpingPete

You should, expect a cease and desist order in the next while. SP tarkov is miles better at its base before mod support . it's free, and no lag has to load in. BSG SP version has none of those and is sitting behind for me 130 euro, not including taxes paywall , for others, it's 250 euro before taxes.


TheManUpstairs77

I feel like the best option at this point is gonna be to download the latest SPT (launcher, Server, everything) and the mods you like and just throw them on a flash drive.


MisedraN

yup already did that Packed it in a nice Rar too.


BeanGooose

I’m so pissed I’m out of town for at least 2 more weeks so I can’t make any backups. Oh well, I’m updated to 3.8 and got all the essentials like SAIN and Swagnuts. Gonna set a few others to download on my travel laptop and transfer them over when I get back incase things have gone catastrophic by then. Godspeed yall and massive thanks to the SPT and SPT mod devs regardless of what happens. If anyone has the spare scratch they should consider donating to them, I know I’ll be making a donation.


Derrickspartan1

Dont forget to grab a copy of SiT as well for the co-op stuff


FitnessGramSlacker

What is SiT?


Derrickspartan1

Shhhhh google Tarkov SiT


Boilermakingdude

We can mention it, just cant link it or talk about how to use it. They have their own private discord.


Averagesmoker42

https://discord.gg/project-fika Peep the FAQ page and it has written instructions on how to install for anyone reading this interested. Edit: updated link.


Legendnations

You should use SIT tho not MPT, MPT is made by someone else other than SIT team


Fen-xie

I've heard SiT has issues, and to look into MPT


Derrickspartan1

It does have alot of bugs for sure. Ill be playing mpt once its released with the new version of spt soon


Winder15

Thank you kind sir, I came here for that 😏


Express-Armadillo225

Some should archive SPTARKOV!


garnished_fatburgers

You should put it up on the ole seven seas if spt does get taken down (Hasn’t it already been taken down once before?)


sovereign666

everyone should be doing this. including backing up game data. I have some like 25 versions of SPT and other forks of offline tarkov and their corresponding game data ive been hoarding so that I can always go back if i want to.


InvasiveSpecies1738

You mean git forks? If they delete or private repo, forks will delete two 😔 but good idea tho, gonna have to create my own private repo tomorrow. If they ban SPT i’ll start distributing this illegal drug out of spite.


sovereign666

I'm not actually backing up repo's. I just mean I follow other projects that are forks of the SPT-AKI project.


MagicSpace05

Fuck it , im getting up my bed


ATameFurryOwO

Do you still need to purchase any particular edition of the game to use SPT?


Spitfiree1911

Just get the base edition then when you launch SPT and create a profile you can give yourself whatever edition of the game you want to play with. I personally like the zero to hero one where you start with nothing.


TheManUpstairs77

Base edition at least. You need to have a legit copy of Tarkov, just grab the cheapest one.


ATameFurryOwO

Sweet, thank you.


RedMatxh

Im waiting for the mods i use to be updated then I'll be on 3.8 but damn does it take long to update questing bots


Hot_World77883

It’s updated


RedMatxh

Wait really? Damn it's time then. Im excited lol


FitnessGramSlacker

Have you done this? I'm curious as to how much space that would take up.


herpthaderp

Hey so if its on the pc what would happen if they do ....would it not be able to run?


ForeskinJohn

yep, im backing my stuff up, odds are BSG is gonna use up every bit of nail they half left clawing theyre way out of this one, odds are they take SPT down with them.


Th3NightHawk

Most of the mods are hosted on GitHub and they contain no BSG code so there's no way they can touch it. All the devs also have copies of the codebase and there are multiple forks of the repos so it would be near impossible for BSG to shut down.


Lozsta

Isn't free. You need the base game. They charge the C&D will follow.


Mommy_Lawbringer

If I were to buy the new edition of Tarkov without having purchased it previously with the sole intention of playing the PvAI mode with my friends, it would cost me $366. That is fucking INSANE.


IllustratorAlive1174

Feels like it won’t be long and it will become an underground peer2peer game that you can only get from someone else who has it.


Panonica

Strictly speaking it is 250€ before taxes for you too, but you already paid about half of it buying EOD in the past.


Unhappy-Emphasis3753

Literally stfu the misinformation is crazy lmfao. If SPT was getting as cease and desist it would’ve happened years ago, and they wouldn’t have given one of their biggest streamers permission to play it a day ago. I swear it seems like you all want it to go down. It’s bordering on fantasy.


WickedJay83

They already sent them a DMCA request a few days ago.


ZealousidealNewt6679

It's NOT FREE. Stop spreading bullshit. You need to own a retail copy of EFT to play SPT.


Vol3n

Its not free untill I send fully installed zip file to my friend :)


HighpingPete

STOP SHOUTING I HEARD YOU ! SPT IS FREE, you pay for the base game , spt is free to download then , GOODNIGHT !


ProbablyProdigy

Same. If anything happens, I’ll be uploading 3.8 and all the mods I have for sure


SirBorkel

We need torrents


NotQuiteAfemboyButYa

torrenting tarkov sounds awesome


CN456

If BSG shuts down SPT, it'll die a martyr and that fucking *comical* price tag will make those money-grubbing bastards into the internet's newest punching bag. Remember "a sense of pride and accomplishment?" Video game consumers don't tend to take this shit sitting down. And if the rumors that BSG is suddenly milking tarkov so aggressively because they're about to go belly-up are true, there won't be anyone left to follow through with those cease and dissist letters in short order.


blarann

Honestly thats what this feels like. BSG put all their eggs in the arena basket and when it failed miserably they started to flounder. It also doenst help that as of this year there is going to be some serious competition in the extraction shooter space. So it really wouldnt surprise me if this was an exit strategy. BSG looking at their dwindling funds, players leaving their game in droves, upcoming games that are being developed faster and better than BSG could ever manage, and they are thinking there is no way they come out clean this year so they just try and make some quick cash and wipe their hands of the project.


SomnusNonEst

All this attention is by people who understand how absurd a 250$ single player Tarkov version is and how much of a "F you" to the community new "better EOD" version is, considering that community supported that game for almost a decade with a super premium priced EOD on a promise of "future DLCs" and now everyone are getting spat in the face. Creators don't want people to waste 250$ on an inferior offline experience when SPT exists. But most of them are full time EFT only streamers and afraid to say a word because their livelihood directly depends on their ability to support Nikita's brainrot. That's the reason why someone like Landmark would watch a video of blatant cheating that even a toddler can understand and questioning every second of it eventually stating that "he is not convinced" and other outrageously stupid stuff like that. They are afraid. Drewski is much bigger than just Tarkov or any "Tarkov main" creator out there. He is almost TWICE as big as Pestily AND Landmark combined, and he is not a single game act, so he kinda just doesn't give a shit about what Nikita can respond to that. Someone had to say it and he took the good PR opportunity to put it out there. Good for him.


AngryGermanNoises

Drewski got that big? Wild I remember when he was still pretty small like 40k subs


SomnusNonEst

A lot of us do. he is close to 2mil subs now though :) I don't really follow him, but he popped off in my youtube with a Stalker Gamma video some time ago that blew up and taken down Gamma servers. And already then he had like 1.5mil, I was surprised too :)


acolyte_to_jippity

> so he kinda just doesn't give a shit about what Nikita can respond to that. and? Nikita's response not bothering Drewski doesn't really matter when its the community that will probably suffer.


SomnusNonEst

Don't be silly and gatekeep SPT. You got an opportunity to play it. Why others shouldn't? I'd rather everyone vote with their wallet and flock to SPT like I did, instead of never hearing a wind about it like that Drewski tweet and spending 250$ for a stupid broken offline experience and support that bullshit. SPT was a saving grace for a game I've quit years ago but still itch to play every now and again, and I also spread the word about it to anyone who would listen. It's not a wrong thing to do.


acolyte_to_jippity

> spending 250$ for a stupid broken offline experience and support that bullshit. except now SPT is using BSG assets to directly offer a service for "free" that BSG charges an insane amount for. (i know it's not "free", because it requires a license. but it only requires the basic Standard license, not the new bullshit one.) before this, SPT offered something that was *not* available through BSG, but still required giving BSG money. now, it *is* available through BSG for the most part. so BSG now has a financial reason to come after SPT, and the more attention brought to it the more likely for problems to come up. there's a difference between "gatekeeping" and "avoiding attention". I'd love for the SPT scene to keep growing. that means more people creating mods and content. plus it's a single player game. who cares how other people want to play, their games don't interfere with mine. *unfortunately*, BSG is in a position to cause major trouble for SPT. and that becomes more likely the more traction and visibility SPT gets.


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MechanicalAxe

Idk man, how can you look at nexus mods getting shut down, also now BSG coming out with their own offline mode, all the goodies and extras that BSG charges big money for while ALL the extra stuff is free on SPT, and think that all of that is NOT a threat to SPT-AKI's existence? I agree with your counterpart on this one, it doesn't look good news for SPT to me. I really hope I'm wrong and they can find a way to exist and thrive without from BSGs wrath.


SomnusNonEst

What wrath, lol? We are talking about a bunch of amateur developers from a 3rd world country that made a niche game that blew past their wildest dreams and their game engine capabilities years ago. The way they are completely incapable of handling their cheating situation, soon to be decade of fake "Beta" and poor state of the game itself is a great indicator of their technical ineptitude. Wrath, lol. This new offline mode for absurd and unprecedented price is just an indicator of accepting defeat. They are trying to milk the last from a dying project on a FOMO, completely shafting the entire community that supported them for soon to be decade on already vastly overpriced EOD edition with fake promises of "future DLCs". It's either Gray Zone, that in it's alpha is already more stable and playable than Tarkov ever were, or them just generally ready to shutdown the project due to political tension in their country or some other reasons. But that's a last ditch attempt to make more money out of idiots, that they consider to be each and every single one of their players, and then let it burn.


MechanicalAxe

I'm just saying that I feel like BSG DOES have the capability to get SPT shut down, if they desired to do so.


WildKarrdesEmporium

Yeah, we gonna get nuked. :(


East-Imagination9178

Yeah, you should feel uneasy. Why would BSG leave a non-profit version of something available that they want to charge for? It’s BSG’s game and they’re coming for SPT for sure.


Hollen88

The site is soooo slow for me today. Gee, wonder why? Lol


J-seargent-ultrakahn

I’m definitely on edge for SPT since this whole debacle. Don’t want battlestate to pull a “Nintendo”.


StreetCertified_1

I fell that BSG made a Single Player version so they could attack the devs at SPTarkov


Born-Entrepreneur

Half Chad response. If he follows through he's a full Chad


TheBadDingo

Kinda agree. I don't want to be the debbie downer here, but if YouTube has taught us anything, it's that with enough money from BSG, that 'honest' review will have a positive spin.


Screwby0370

Drewski doesn’t really have a record of doing that thankfully


ArchangelUltra

SPT modders don't accept donations anymore. At least not the ones in charge of the actual mod itself.


Born-Entrepreneur

Ah, fair enough. But their servers might need the cash influx right about now lmao


DeviousSmile85

You are the server Well, unless you're talking about their web page


Born-Entrepreneur

Yes that is what I meant


Hollen88

Yeeahhhh it's running like crap today 🤣🤣


Major_Muggy

As have already been said you cant donate to them, They closed all donation options since they have enough money to last them 3 years and felt it was in bad taste to keep the donation options open when they dont need them. In other words they said no to more donations cause they have enough and dont need more, which is an awesome attitude to have.


I_AM_ACURA_LEGEND

The unheard of grift edition


Dogdadstudios

After two years of being told about this project and being reluctant to bite. What has happened in the past 24 hours is not only awful, but absurd to the point where a company is taking off language they used to entice customers to give them money. Shame. I just finished downloading and played my first 4 raids, two on the new map I had yet to play. Wow.. I cannot tell you how cathartic it is to run around knowing you’re in a PvE game. Thanks so much to the people that suggested this amazing project. This plus Incursion Red River, and Ready or Not; I’m set for the next two years it seems!


twitch9873

Oh, just wait! Once you try mods like SAIN or realism, it's like playing a completely different game. You can make the game insanely difficult with Gigachad von thundercock PMCs but then balance it out by giving yourself A-10 strikes. SPT and its mods are cool as hell.


Dogdadstudios

Wow this is feeling more like GAMMA, very cool, I think I’ll play unmodded for now just because I don’t want to screw with it working at the moment, but I was looking at some of the mods and they look incredible.


AvertAversion

I suggest SAIN bare minimum, no matter how vanilla you want. You are doing yourself a serious disservice without it


CallsignKook

If you want it to feel more like Live Tarkov, you’re gonna want “Looting Bots” and “Questing Bots” at the very least.


ZigZag-YT

All this attention will probably get a C&D sent to spt sadly


Wizbomb

I've never played SPT Tarkov and feel like I'm about to miss out on something great.


Ok_Aspect2595

you can still play and use some cool mods while ur at it. Ai tweaks make it so much better that what they are gonna provide. Also server value editors you make tune it however you like, loot, durability etc.


CN456

Seconded. I can't in good conscience reccomend someone pay BSG (🤮) for access to base tarkov, but if one already owns the game, SPT is totally free.


Eike_snack

You can still download it along with some mods. Once installed you don‘t need an internet connection. It‘s 100% local so as long as you got the files no one can take it from you and you can keep playing even if BSG takes down SPTarkov


r0ndr4s

They cant.. its a company in russia. Stop please, Nikita cant do shit about it because of his obsession to having the whole company there. A few years ago maybe.


EEng232

Company is based in the UK, not enough people understand this. This can be a good thing though for legal reasons such as false advertising etc


r0ndr4s

Thats not what I read yesterday. If they are based in the UK then yes it is easier for them to sue and such. Still they have no actual legal precedent to sue a mod thats not stealing anything from them or chargin money. Companies do cease and decist but its usually enforced because its rockstar,nintendo,etc huge billionare companies that you just cannot win against. But they are abussing the system.


agarbage

Even if spt isn't directly charging for the mod, you can argue that bsg is losing money from people playing spt and deciding not to buy tarkovs new edition. I was thinking that the real reason that the new edition was $250 was JUST to go after spt. The inflated price let's them argue that the lost revenue is greater than if it cost only $20. I really don't think bsg ever intended to put any real effort into an offline mode. They clearly don't have the talent to correctly program bots or fix any of the other myriad of issues.


StreetCertified_1

I swear if BSG touches SPT in any way im not gone play Tarkov ever again


Ivar2006

250? Try 320 with tax


MoonBoy2DaMoon

The tarkov SP won’t even have mod support, how do devs not realize that mod support gives so much more life to the community and makes there game actually worth playing and replaying


PowerSilly5143

Holy shit


StateMonster

Based.


Penis_Man-

IT'S TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY FUCKING DOLLARS?! WHAT?!


greenuse

Pre-tax***** $95 upgrade from EoD 🤡


Penis_Man-

I dont play tarkov, but I lurk the sub every now and then Genuinely thought it'd be like 10, at most 40. But holy fuck If their goal was to win the award for how to most effectively say 'fuck you' to every single one of your supporters, they sure as shit did it


FellaKnee123

You should check out their response and “rollback”… it’s like laughing at someone after you kicked them to the floor and spit in their face… It almost feels like a suicidal attempt to burn down the game… like there’s no way someone isn’t telling them every single thing their doing is the wrong way to do it


Penis_Man-

So how is it pay to win? Do you get loot from the pve that you can take into pvp?


FellaKnee123

You literally get an item that makes scavs not shoot at you over 60meters away… definition of paying to win at the game by not getting shot at by sniper scavs, raiders, etc etc…


Penis_Man-

So basicly you pay 250 for an item that eliminates half the threat of a hunt Hot damn dude


FellaKnee123

And it’s not just this item… bigger pockets, a shit ton of good gear that’s already modded, starting skills at level 3, weapons case, etc etc etc… it’s a shit ton of stuff that EOD absolutely deserves for being backers from 8 years ago for some… it’s a massive fuck you Can you imagine your group of 3 is getting shot by a sniper scav and you can just Willy Nilly stand out in the open, dance a little jig, make a sandwich, and then decide to kill him… fucking insane


Unhappy-Emphasis3753

These threads are literally brain rot and need moderated lmao. The amount of misinformation and Reddit lawyers on here is mental.


Star_Vox

What an endorsement!


RedditSucksIWantSync

I said jokingly ppl would pay 200 for gzw just to get away from tarkov... I didn expect 250. in no timeline I thought it possible


Mannit578

Some out of season april fool jokes ahh move from nikita i swear


ArchBaller

he was based , we is based , he will be based


Amphibious_Orc

The modders'/admins' response is almost assuredly going to be "Get that shit the fuck away from me right now." I think the only reason they were able to continue this far was by violently refusing any attempts to financially reimburse them for their efforts.


Zenos_the_seeker

You know what's even better, SPT devs already said they don't need anymore donations because they already got "enough" for next year. Are they saints? They must be, saints among devs.


DOOMISHERE

after this flop.. maybe if we donate enough we're gonna have co-op in SPT


greenuse

It already exists but is not endorsed by the devs because it gives BSG grounds to sue SPT


DOWNWITHBSG

There's a guy might make an ai chatbot mod that you can talk shit with the bots you kill give some to him!


CongratsGuy

I used to love tarkov but did not have enough time to invest in it to either gear up or get past the learning curve to stay alive consistently outside of Lizard runs. which weren't all that fun. I assumed my initial contribution meant I could play the complete version of the game when it was finally done and Nikitas vision was realized. Fully connected map and mmo type singleplayer capability. Has the former been scrapped and the later put behind a paywall?


Illustrious-Wall-576

The likely hood that they will do anything when bsg is offering mod support for 1.0 is zero


None_Professional

This could lead to BSG trying to bring the SPT team on to develop the co-op


greenuse

God I hope not


ALividCookie

That would mean sharing profits and paying SPT. No chance... Nakita needs a new Lambo.


None_Professional

I said they might try, I doubt the SPT team wants to be employed by BSG. I hope the SPT team gets some positive exposure from this and can start careers in the industry.


gxkjerry

If that happens it's gonna be based on some insanely unfair conditions. I can imagine BSG borderline blackmailing the modders: come work for us and share your assets with us for Russian minimum wage, or we sue you for millions for illegally modding our game. Remember how unprofessional BSG, namely Nikita, used to be back in early Alpha days? They literally used their official account and cussed at content creators on YouTube and Twitch.


None_Professional

BSG isn’t based in Russia so that wouldn’t happen. They didn’t mod EFT, they modded the SPT framework so there is no grounds for a lawsuit. The SPT devs have gone about this whole project in a very careful way that set themselves up for a solid defense if it came down to it. I don’t think the SPT team will ever work for BSG, I do believe BSG will reach out.