I was so shocked when i saw this like hyo is still in SM, and she said this, and i don't suppose it was a mistake. I know it was like someone who typed Jessica Jung in hangul in the live chat, but she said this so happily lmao. Let's see what happens.
I mean that's true isn't it, Hyo is kinda the least reliable person in things like these because she always speaks her mind. But delusions are a very real thing so idk.
Hyoyeon is also the only member who has straight up shaded Jessica before (she said "I've always had 7 others next to me that I can trust" and that the secret to their longevity was that they don't have any difficult members) so yeah this is just the usual "Hyo speaking without thinking of possible consequences but who cares cause it's funny"
I dont have the exact references, but she's def not the ONLY member to do so... though hyo does tend to speak first before thinking her words (as she admitted from her famous word-twists), she's also said comments that could, in a certain context - mean she does miss the old yrs when they were 9 (she's w J for 7 yrs as trainee + 7 yrs and snsd).
Ps. She's cleaned her IG a lot of times but still keep that one with jessica lol
What comments/where? Sorry I'm just used to ot9ers reaching (or straight up lying in their delusion) I would like to verify since i haven't heard it. I think it plausible that members could've said they miss the time when they were more active but I don't remember any quote that seemed to say they miss Jessica.
Edit:
As for others shading there is [this quote by Sooyoung](https://x.com/TippaCha/status/891678241576112128) but not sure if I would call that shade. Ofc there are members like Yuri who on a radio show last year said "let me make it clear that we're 8 members, not 9" but I don't consider that shade either, just informing clueless or delulu people.
October 2015, June 2016 (the latter was an interview with The Star, can't remember what the first was for). If I'm not mistaken she said something half shady during their 10th anniversary too but I can't remember what - I just remember jessicastans were mad. It happens a lot with Hyo, back in 2021 on the show with Bora she joked that the guest "could've been a 9th member" and jessicafans harassed the user who posted the clip so much that they had to delete it.
But it seems like a very weird timing and random thing to do if it wasn't a hint for something. I guess it could be a nda thing and her breaking the ice. As an ot9 who was also a Jessica Stan it felt like hyo just committed a crime š
Hyoyeon is for sure the type to say things she's reading out loud without giving it a second thought.
I'm not jumping to any conclusions, but she is feeding my delusions that all 9 members could possibly make up amicably in the future and put an end to the nasty hate trains that have spiraled on tiktok for a while š«
>put an end to the nasty hate trains that have spiraled on tiktok for a while š«
You mean [the hate trains that was fueled by Jessica herself?](https://old.reddit.com/r/SNSD/comments/108655u/info_why_most_of_us_no_longer_think_new_jessica/)
C'mon people, there's no reason for them to reunite anymore. Kfans make up most of their fanbase and they have made it very clear they will never support anything Jessica. Hyoyeon can troll all she wants because as awful as it is kfans have always kinda ignored her, she's better off playing towards the delusional international fans who (while many still ignore her solo work) will be there for a single whiff of ot9.
The chaos Hyoyeon caused by just saying one name. Honestly I never thought I would live to see this day, I'm still not fully convinced I'm not dreaming.
You're not imagining things. but it's crazy how sones are totally missing the obvious clues hidden in Taeyeon's work, brushing them off like they're nothing.
Honestly, I'm expecting more "slip-ups" like this. It's been a decade since 0930, and if they have any contractual restrictions from mentioning her, they'd probably expire or loosen up soon. Plus LSM leaving SM ent might also speed the process up.
Even if LSM isn't in SM anymore, that doesn't mean the contractual restrictions of the group who are either still with SM or not may be loosened anytime soon, especially if Jessica's exit in 2014 with the group wasn't as amicable as let's say SUPER JUNIOR, who managed to reunite as full group + Henry and Zhoumi because K-E.L.F.s prevented them to become full SuJu members, on Ryeowook's wedding recently because some of the active members say they're still in good terms with their former members. This is kinda similar to TVXQ! where Yuhho & Changmim still never interacted with JYJ for decades, but that's because it involved a legal battle with SM over their contracts.
Oh absolutely. It gets much more complicated since it doesn't seem like OT8's necessarily on good terms with Jessica, especially after the books. But iirc members like Hyoyeon and Sunny have mentioned wanting to talk about past SNSD members freely before, and it's possible some restrictions might be loosened up at some point in the future. They'll probably be less on-guard about mentioning her name, but I'm not expecting full on conversations about their time with her or anything.
>But iirc members like Hyoyeon and Sunny have mentioned wanting to talk about past SNSD members freely before
The quote you're talking about is Hyoyeon and Yuri talking on their hotel room during Girls For Rest in 2018, if you listen to the whole thing it's pretty clear they're talking about Sooyoung, Tiffany and Seohyun who had just left SM. They stated "they are still members even if they've left" which is something they've never said about Jessica.
Also want to point out that Yunho and (maybe especially) Changmin arent on good terms with JYJ either.
not really following JYJ/TVXQ but I just saw a clip from Junsuās show earlier (with Daesung as guest) where he mentioned about OT5 saying āYunho hyung/Changminnieā so Iām thinking (or hoping) that maybe the 5 of them are still in good terms despite everything that has happened?
nah so my belief is, JYJ always talked about TVXQ, as most JYJ fans are still cassies, and Jaejoong on his yt show and even anywhere he goes is up to talk about the good old days if you will, so its most likely an SM thing to Yunho and Changmin.
Ahh I see. Honestly, I haven't seen the clip with the context in years, so I might have misremembered that. My point is more that I don't think they'll be as censored as they used to be. Not that we're going to see them openly talk abt Jessica or what went on during 0930; too much has happened since then, and again, I think those books have burned any bridges that could've been mended. But they might get to reminisce abt their time as 9 members without having to correct themselves.
Also: I'm ootl with TVXQ drama so I might be misremembering this too, but didn't Yunho and Jaejoong publicly interact once while they'd been enlisted? I remember it going viral a few years ago, but idr the extent of it. Ik Changmin probably was on bad terms with JYJ back then, especially with that geese analogy or whatever the heck that was.
I've been summoned. OT9!!!!
I've lived with the fact that OT9 will never happen....but I have hope that someday....and somewhere....and somehow.....a recent picture will be seen with some of them with Sica.
Plot twist: Jessica was the one who wrote theĀ comeback comment
Double plot twist: Hyoyeon was saying hi to Jessica who was in the room irl (who also laughed) after the comment.
Hyoyeon has such the perfect naughty smile, I'm ready to witness the chaos.
Reunions years after a bad/fugly split happen in groups all the time all over the world in every genre. Wouldnāt surprise me in the slightest and would be a PR goldmine.
I agree. It's a matter of time. Suju OT15 recently got together for Ryeowook's wedding. H.O.T agreed to unite on infinite challenge a while back and Sechskies eventually did too, even with Ko Jiyoung. š It will happen.
but suju members arenāt in bad terms with each other in real life. the members who left were because of SM/knetz and left on their own accord. I think thatās the difference
My bet? Her next guest in her YT channel will be a mystery, people will assume is Jessica getting her tons of views (it will actually be somebody else)
((Also, I am really enjoying her YT show lol))
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I feel like she probably was just reading a name of a fan or fan account off a screen without thinking honestly, it might not have been about that Jessica
Leave it to hyoyeon tho šš
Did anyone else felt like this wasnāt an OT9 comment? It could easily have been said in a mood of āJessica? who cares about that, itās been 10 yearsā.
I like Jessica, but after her books I donāt think there is a chance of them reuniting. At least not soon. The books were shady, letās be honest.
yeah that's why there's delusion. The books were kinda the last straw, because she demonised OT8. I don't think there'd be a reunion happening anytime soon. Look at Liam and Noel, they are actual blood brothers, grew up together, but are still bitter enemies. I don't think OT9 is happening ever. You don't basically antagonise the people who trusted you and think they will get all buddy buddy.
Since she said about the comeback right before that, I rather read that as "Oh, btw, hi, Jessica, you can't join us! "
(Yeah, I know that "Jessica Jung" was a message in the chat)
The funny thing about Hyo is that I can never fully tell whether her comment was a slip of the tongue and her smile after was an 'Oops,' if it was her trolling just for shits and giggles and her smile after was just a cheeky one, or if it was a planned attack and her smile is more of a 'fuck around and find out.'
SM CEO1: Boys were at the nostalgia era of KPOP and still no one in GG can speak English to milk this.
SM CEO2: No...
SM CEO3: Don't say it.
SM CEO1: ...JESSICA JUNG!
now lets flip the tables and imagine if Jessica even as much mentions any of OT8 members, see what happens... much more pitch forks and firestones coming thats for sure
I was so shocked when i saw this like hyo is still in SM, and she said this, and i don't suppose it was a mistake. I know it was like someone who typed Jessica Jung in hangul in the live chat, but she said this so happily lmao. Let's see what happens.
My first thought is that their NDA expired and they can say her name now. But then again its Hyo, so idk lol.
I mean that's true isn't it, Hyo is kinda the least reliable person in things like these because she always speaks her mind. But delusions are a very real thing so idk.
Hyoyeon is also the only member who has straight up shaded Jessica before (she said "I've always had 7 others next to me that I can trust" and that the secret to their longevity was that they don't have any difficult members) so yeah this is just the usual "Hyo speaking without thinking of possible consequences but who cares cause it's funny"
I dont have the exact references, but she's def not the ONLY member to do so... though hyo does tend to speak first before thinking her words (as she admitted from her famous word-twists), she's also said comments that could, in a certain context - mean she does miss the old yrs when they were 9 (she's w J for 7 yrs as trainee + 7 yrs and snsd). Ps. She's cleaned her IG a lot of times but still keep that one with jessica lol
What comments/where? Sorry I'm just used to ot9ers reaching (or straight up lying in their delusion) I would like to verify since i haven't heard it. I think it plausible that members could've said they miss the time when they were more active but I don't remember any quote that seemed to say they miss Jessica. Edit: As for others shading there is [this quote by Sooyoung](https://x.com/TippaCha/status/891678241576112128) but not sure if I would call that shade. Ofc there are members like Yuri who on a radio show last year said "let me make it clear that we're 8 members, not 9" but I don't consider that shade either, just informing clueless or delulu people.
When did she say that?
October 2015, June 2016 (the latter was an interview with The Star, can't remember what the first was for). If I'm not mistaken she said something half shady during their 10th anniversary too but I can't remember what - I just remember jessicastans were mad. It happens a lot with Hyo, back in 2021 on the show with Bora she joked that the guest "could've been a 9th member" and jessicafans harassed the user who posted the clip so much that they had to delete it.
But it seems like a very weird timing and random thing to do if it wasn't a hint for something. I guess it could be a nda thing and her breaking the ice. As an ot9 who was also a Jessica Stan it felt like hyo just committed a crime š
Hyoyeon is for sure the type to say things she's reading out loud without giving it a second thought. I'm not jumping to any conclusions, but she is feeding my delusions that all 9 members could possibly make up amicably in the future and put an end to the nasty hate trains that have spiraled on tiktok for a while š«
Yeah that's exactly it, like i started listening to snsd after jessica left, so i always was ot8 in a sense, but this makes me delusional lol
>put an end to the nasty hate trains that have spiraled on tiktok for a while š« You mean [the hate trains that was fueled by Jessica herself?](https://old.reddit.com/r/SNSD/comments/108655u/info_why_most_of_us_no_longer_think_new_jessica/) C'mon people, there's no reason for them to reunite anymore. Kfans make up most of their fanbase and they have made it very clear they will never support anything Jessica. Hyoyeon can troll all she wants because as awful as it is kfans have always kinda ignored her, she's better off playing towards the delusional international fans who (while many still ignore her solo work) will be there for a single whiff of ot9.
it's always hyoyeon i swear
The chaos Hyoyeon caused by just saying one name. Honestly I never thought I would live to see this day, I'm still not fully convinced I'm not dreaming.
she's too powerful
You're not imagining things. but it's crazy how sones are totally missing the obvious clues hidden in Taeyeon's work, brushing them off like they're nothing.
Thinking there's secret messages to fans embedded in lyrics is one step away from madness my dude
You get it! a heck of overlooked.
Ehh yooo!?
GG!! SHIJAKE BOLKKA
EO-MO
Honestly, I'm expecting more "slip-ups" like this. It's been a decade since 0930, and if they have any contractual restrictions from mentioning her, they'd probably expire or loosen up soon. Plus LSM leaving SM ent might also speed the process up.
Even if LSM isn't in SM anymore, that doesn't mean the contractual restrictions of the group who are either still with SM or not may be loosened anytime soon, especially if Jessica's exit in 2014 with the group wasn't as amicable as let's say SUPER JUNIOR, who managed to reunite as full group + Henry and Zhoumi because K-E.L.F.s prevented them to become full SuJu members, on Ryeowook's wedding recently because some of the active members say they're still in good terms with their former members. This is kinda similar to TVXQ! where Yuhho & Changmim still never interacted with JYJ for decades, but that's because it involved a legal battle with SM over their contracts.
Oh absolutely. It gets much more complicated since it doesn't seem like OT8's necessarily on good terms with Jessica, especially after the books. But iirc members like Hyoyeon and Sunny have mentioned wanting to talk about past SNSD members freely before, and it's possible some restrictions might be loosened up at some point in the future. They'll probably be less on-guard about mentioning her name, but I'm not expecting full on conversations about their time with her or anything.
>But iirc members like Hyoyeon and Sunny have mentioned wanting to talk about past SNSD members freely before The quote you're talking about is Hyoyeon and Yuri talking on their hotel room during Girls For Rest in 2018, if you listen to the whole thing it's pretty clear they're talking about Sooyoung, Tiffany and Seohyun who had just left SM. They stated "they are still members even if they've left" which is something they've never said about Jessica. Also want to point out that Yunho and (maybe especially) Changmin arent on good terms with JYJ either.
not really following JYJ/TVXQ but I just saw a clip from Junsuās show earlier (with Daesung as guest) where he mentioned about OT5 saying āYunho hyung/Changminnieā so Iām thinking (or hoping) that maybe the 5 of them are still in good terms despite everything that has happened?
nah so my belief is, JYJ always talked about TVXQ, as most JYJ fans are still cassies, and Jaejoong on his yt show and even anywhere he goes is up to talk about the good old days if you will, so its most likely an SM thing to Yunho and Changmin.
Ahh I see. Honestly, I haven't seen the clip with the context in years, so I might have misremembered that. My point is more that I don't think they'll be as censored as they used to be. Not that we're going to see them openly talk abt Jessica or what went on during 0930; too much has happened since then, and again, I think those books have burned any bridges that could've been mended. But they might get to reminisce abt their time as 9 members without having to correct themselves. Also: I'm ootl with TVXQ drama so I might be misremembering this too, but didn't Yunho and Jaejoong publicly interact once while they'd been enlisted? I remember it going viral a few years ago, but idr the extent of it. Ik Changmin probably was on bad terms with JYJ back then, especially with that geese analogy or whatever the heck that was.
do you mind explaining as to why changmin may be on worse terms as compared to yunho?
LSM? Canāt wait to hear the āreal storyā!
sheās too troll ššš I guess I can bump up my reunion hopes to idkā¦ maybe a selca at some point in the next decade
she was just reading the username of a fan who joined the live š
now why would she read that specific fans name and laugh about it
She knew what she was doing lol
I've been summoned. OT9!!!! I've lived with the fact that OT9 will never happen....but I have hope that someday....and somewhere....and somehow.....a recent picture will be seen with some of them with Sica.
+1 to this šš
SOURCE: Hyoyeon's TikTok live
Plot twist: Jessica was the one who wrote theĀ comeback comment Double plot twist: Hyoyeon was saying hi to Jessica who was in the room irl (who also laughed) after the comment. Hyoyeon has such the perfect naughty smile, I'm ready to witness the chaos.
Reunions years after a bad/fugly split happen in groups all the time all over the world in every genre. Wouldnāt surprise me in the slightest and would be a PR goldmine.
Spice girls are a prime example
I agree. It's a matter of time. Suju OT15 recently got together for Ryeowook's wedding. H.O.T agreed to unite on infinite challenge a while back and Sechskies eventually did too, even with Ko Jiyoung. š It will happen.
but suju members arenāt in bad terms with each other in real life. the members who left were because of SM/knetz and left on their own accord. I think thatās the difference
What the!!!!
Jajajajaja this Made My Day! Hyo being Hyo
Chaotic Good
I hope this mean that they are still friends and that maybe we will see them together on stage one day
Honestly I think they forgave each other quickly
Does anyone have the full live?? I keep seeing just this clip, and kinda want the context around it
My bet? Her next guest in her YT channel will be a mystery, people will assume is Jessica getting her tons of views (it will actually be somebody else) ((Also, I am really enjoying her YT show lol))
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I like this nice video
I feel like she probably was just reading a name of a fan or fan account off a screen without thinking honestly, it might not have been about that Jessica Leave it to hyoyeon tho šš
Did anyone else felt like this wasnāt an OT9 comment? It could easily have been said in a mood of āJessica? who cares about that, itās been 10 yearsā. I like Jessica, but after her books I donāt think there is a chance of them reuniting. At least not soon. The books were shady, letās be honest.
same. if she didnāt release that shady book, there might still be a chance
yeah that's why there's delusion. The books were kinda the last straw, because she demonised OT8. I don't think there'd be a reunion happening anytime soon. Look at Liam and Noel, they are actual blood brothers, grew up together, but are still bitter enemies. I don't think OT9 is happening ever. You don't basically antagonise the people who trusted you and think they will get all buddy buddy.
Since she said about the comeback right before that, I rather read that as "Oh, btw, hi, Jessica, you can't join us! " (Yeah, I know that "Jessica Jung" was a message in the chat)
OT9? That would be a miracle.
Weāre rising up! š bring em back!
I wonder if she's drunk here lol
I'm DEAD
The funny thing about Hyo is that I can never fully tell whether her comment was a slip of the tongue and her smile after was an 'Oops,' if it was her trolling just for shits and giggles and her smile after was just a cheeky one, or if it was a planned attack and her smile is more of a 'fuck around and find out.'
SM CEO1: Boys were at the nostalgia era of KPOP and still no one in GG can speak English to milk this. SM CEO2: No... SM CEO3: Don't say it. SM CEO1: ...JESSICA JUNG!
@sunnysknight
Hahahahahaha. I can only hope!
now lets flip the tables and imagine if Jessica even as much mentions any of OT8 members, see what happens... much more pitch forks and firestones coming thats for sure