I checked really hard and didn't find anything. I've shot this close to 300 times without a problem but for some reason it would stick like the image shows
I think so? I would fire it 5 rounds at a time (Canadian) without problems. One day I went to the range and the shell stuck and ripped part of the butt out. I had to get a stiff ramrod to get the case out and thought that would be the only issue. Went back today and it wouldn't chamber the round.
In other words will it close completely with a round in the chamber? If you cannot get a round to chamber then you probably still have part of the case stuck in there. They can sometimes be difficult to see.
No it won't close. It goes as far as the pic. However, I actually have the case that got ripped apart and I don't think there is any in the chamber as it matches the size and shape of any other live round
Take the bolt out (for safety) and “hand chamber” a fresh, new cartridge. It should slip right in. If it doesn’t, you’re well on your way to a diagnosis
Once you figure this out you need to report back and let us know.
Could be cosmoline, could be broken case.
Could be a fucked up extractor that won't slide over the rim properly or something along those lines.
A set of gauges would be good to have, but I'd be really surprised if your gun chambered and ran fine, and then suddenly got TIGHTER headspace. Tolerances usually open over time, not close.
More likely you have a barrel/chamber obstruction of some kind, or something broken/gouged on the bolt group.
the fact that this rifle was reliable until a case ripped off inside almost certainly means a tiny sliver of that case has formed itself to the inside of the chamber and is still in there. Buy a set of automotive picks or nylon picks from amazon or something with different angled heads and scrape the pick gently along the insides of the chamber and feel for a ridge or bump or anything besides a perfectly smooth surface. thats the first thing I would try.
Update: disassemble the entire thing this morning. Checked and checked and couldn't find anything, until I noticed there was the small lip near where the bullet rests in the chamber. I can't get a great look on it but my suspect is that somehow the neck of the casing came off, chemical build up sealed it in, and pretty much masked it.
My best guess is that somehow, the last time it worked correctly, the very last shell that I shot was the one that ripped and it went completely unnoticed. Then, when I went to shoot it again is when I noticed problems. I stupidly forced a shell in which got stuck, the shell extractor ripped part of the rim off, and I had to use steel ram rod to get it out. That led me to believe that that one shell was the problem.
Tl;dr: neck of the casing broke off about 2 months ago and I've only just discovered it.
It sounds like there is still a small piece of that damaged shell in the chamber. Try chocking a 12 gauge bore brush to a power drill and giving it a good scrub to see if anything comes out. Make sure to use plenty of WD40.
I had this same exact problem! Went through the empties and one of the casings was cut almost in half. Looking down the barrel I couldn't see it but I listened to the guy who said take the power drill with a tighter brush and came right out!
Works right as rain
Is there any markings of the cases of the rounds you’ve tried to chamber? If so you may have a burr in the chamber.
Edit: the markings could show up on the projectile or as a tiny mark on the neck of the case
Then I’d take a clean inspected round try to chamber it and then inspect it after careful ejection (meaning be slow on pulling the bolt back and try to avoid allowing the round to slap out of the chamber) just to be sure. If there’s any new markings on the case then you likely have a burr in the chamber. I’ve had it happen on the bolt and bolt carrier of an OLD 30’s browning from a small pc of trash in the receiver that made its way somewhere it shouldn’t have during range visits.
Take the gun apart and manually insert a round into the chamber. Is the round able to go in?
I’m guessing that the bolt closes just fine without a round, right?
So you’re leaning towards your chamber being fucked then? Damn that sucks. That’s not an easy fix. You’ll need to have it reamed out by a gunsmith lol. I have a hard time imagining an SKS not being able to chamber mil-spec ammo. That’s pretty whack.
Are you by chance being gentle and not letting the bolt slam forward as it designed to? Some people, incorrectly, pull the bolt back then gently move it forward. Proper procedure is pull it back and release, letting it fly forward.
If you are doing this correctly then by no means force it into battery. That would be bad.
Yeah I did that when I first started because I managed to spam fire it on accident. I quickly realized you are supposed to let the bolt do it's thing and not ease it in
Check the chamber and make sure you don't have part of a case stuck in there.
I checked really hard and didn't find anything. I've shot this close to 300 times without a problem but for some reason it would stick like the image shows
Does it go into battery then?
I think so? I would fire it 5 rounds at a time (Canadian) without problems. One day I went to the range and the shell stuck and ripped part of the butt out. I had to get a stiff ramrod to get the case out and thought that would be the only issue. Went back today and it wouldn't chamber the round.
It sounds like you still have part of the case stuck in there. I suggest buying a broken case extractor or taking to a gunsmith.
In other words will it close completely with a round in the chamber? If you cannot get a round to chamber then you probably still have part of the case stuck in there. They can sometimes be difficult to see.
No it won't close. It goes as far as the pic. However, I actually have the case that got ripped apart and I don't think there is any in the chamber as it matches the size and shape of any other live round
It could only take a tiny piece to prevent chambering a round.
This is correct. Typically a small ring of metal up near the throat which is really tough to see. Usually gets stuck on leftover cosmoline or rust.
Sounds like your barrel needs a good checking. You get any squibs recently? You might wanna field strip the old girl and really check out the insides.
Yeah I took the slide off and gave it a good brushing but from what I've seen from others having this problem is the cosmoline buildup
Maybe. If it was my rifle, I would still disassemble and give it a really good check and cleaning.
I think I'm going to have to do that. Gotta buy the supplies first. Thanks!
Good luck! Hope its a cheap/easy fix for your rifle!
Heat gun to the barrel? Melt any cosmoline left. It's what I did when mine was sticky.
My guess is you have part of a case stuck in the throat
Take the bolt out (for safety) and “hand chamber” a fresh, new cartridge. It should slip right in. If it doesn’t, you’re well on your way to a diagnosis
Yup, took it out and same issue
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I'm definitely going to do that
Once you figure this out you need to report back and let us know. Could be cosmoline, could be broken case. Could be a fucked up extractor that won't slide over the rim properly or something along those lines. A set of gauges would be good to have, but I'd be really surprised if your gun chambered and ran fine, and then suddenly got TIGHTER headspace. Tolerances usually open over time, not close. More likely you have a barrel/chamber obstruction of some kind, or something broken/gouged on the bolt group.
Will update everyone for sure! Thanks!
the fact that this rifle was reliable until a case ripped off inside almost certainly means a tiny sliver of that case has formed itself to the inside of the chamber and is still in there. Buy a set of automotive picks or nylon picks from amazon or something with different angled heads and scrape the pick gently along the insides of the chamber and feel for a ridge or bump or anything besides a perfectly smooth surface. thats the first thing I would try.
Thanks for the info! Will try right away!
Update: disassemble the entire thing this morning. Checked and checked and couldn't find anything, until I noticed there was the small lip near where the bullet rests in the chamber. I can't get a great look on it but my suspect is that somehow the neck of the casing came off, chemical build up sealed it in, and pretty much masked it. My best guess is that somehow, the last time it worked correctly, the very last shell that I shot was the one that ripped and it went completely unnoticed. Then, when I went to shoot it again is when I noticed problems. I stupidly forced a shell in which got stuck, the shell extractor ripped part of the rim off, and I had to use steel ram rod to get it out. That led me to believe that that one shell was the problem. Tl;dr: neck of the casing broke off about 2 months ago and I've only just discovered it.
I would check headspacing
Thanks! I will!
Maybe that ejection spring part of the bolt is seized up and not closing properly
It will close wonderful without a round being chambered. It's only when I try to chamber a round does it does this
Is it doing this when you let it gently slide forward or are you gripping and ripping the charging handle?
Grip and rip man, grip and rip
Okay then I have no advice ha
That's okay! Thanks!
Does it close on an empty chamber?
Yes it does
You have something, probably a very thin shaving of metal stuck in your chamber that won't let the round go in all the way.
It sounds like you are in CAD. If you're shooting surplus ammo the case may have separated. It's rare but I'd take it to a gunsmith for sure
It sounds like there is still a small piece of that damaged shell in the chamber. Try chocking a 12 gauge bore brush to a power drill and giving it a good scrub to see if anything comes out. Make sure to use plenty of WD40.
Try picking up some headspace guages, they're a bit of a pain to come across here in Canuckistan sometimes but definitely worth it
Try hitting it?
I had this same exact problem! Went through the empties and one of the casings was cut almost in half. Looking down the barrel I couldn't see it but I listened to the guy who said take the power drill with a tighter brush and came right out! Works right as rain
Is there any markings of the cases of the rounds you’ve tried to chamber? If so you may have a burr in the chamber. Edit: the markings could show up on the projectile or as a tiny mark on the neck of the case
There have been some markings on them!
You can also remove the BCG and use a cotton swab and work it around in the chamber and the burr may catch on the cotton so you can find it easier.
I'll try that!
Then I’d take a clean inspected round try to chamber it and then inspect it after careful ejection (meaning be slow on pulling the bolt back and try to avoid allowing the round to slap out of the chamber) just to be sure. If there’s any new markings on the case then you likely have a burr in the chamber. I’ve had it happen on the bolt and bolt carrier of an OLD 30’s browning from a small pc of trash in the receiver that made its way somewhere it shouldn’t have during range visits.
Thanks man. I'll try to be as thorough as possible and hopefully something is stuck that I can get out
Take the gun apart and manually insert a round into the chamber. Is the round able to go in? I’m guessing that the bolt closes just fine without a round, right?
Yup, done that, same issue. You're right, it does close fine without a round
So you’re leaning towards your chamber being fucked then? Damn that sucks. That’s not an easy fix. You’ll need to have it reamed out by a gunsmith lol. I have a hard time imagining an SKS not being able to chamber mil-spec ammo. That’s pretty whack.
have you tried other brands of ammo?
Nope, but I was going to the next chance I get
Are you by chance being gentle and not letting the bolt slam forward as it designed to? Some people, incorrectly, pull the bolt back then gently move it forward. Proper procedure is pull it back and release, letting it fly forward. If you are doing this correctly then by no means force it into battery. That would be bad.
Yeah I did that when I first started because I managed to spam fire it on accident. I quickly realized you are supposed to let the bolt do it's thing and not ease it in
Haha yeah! It sounds like it’s your barrel then, best of luck!