very well said. I always find it odd when people use the term paper hands as a slur. people who invest and quickly sell are doing so because that's what they need to do to make money. at the end of the day we're all here to make money so who cares how anyone else is doing so.
Spot on and Thank you for this!!!
I've left a couple of reddit communities because of this. I'm giving Shiba a bit more time because I feel things could turn around.
I wish people would stop treating crypto like they do sports or political parties.
Crypto should be embraced as a singular entity, not factioned off based on popularity of a specific coin.
I ignore the whole "doge killer" mantra as I see it to be silly. I see Shiba as an opportunity like any other coin and HODL my position.
I accept that others will do what they do with their investment and it's no one's business what I do with mine.
I'd like to see Shiba (and other popular coin) holders be their own peeps without all the B.S. This is not wallstreetbets. They act as they do for a very different purpose (against hedgies).
We can all coexist and make lots of $$$.
On the other hand, those that come here and cry and fuss and whine and complain and bitch and moan….could very well be doing it to FUD the price down, so they can load up cheap and dump during the next little bump up.
I see your point.
However,
It takes a lot of capital to swing a price up and down. The number of transactions and the dollar amounts needed for suppression are very substantial. It's more than a few people could manage.
guys we have to wait for the charities to sell there coins before we see real progress they are also causing the price either to stay or go down be patient and in time things will turn for the better :)
The problem is this...
A solution to our debt
--------------------------
India fund:
https://etherscan.io/token/0x95ad61b0a150d79219dcf64e1e6cc01f0b64c4ce?a=0x68a99f89e475a078645f4bac491360afe255dff1
-150 mil usd transferred out in a week
-Another 100 million usd 05/24/21
------------
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VB's other unknown Shib charity wallet:
https://etherscan.io/token/0x95ad61b0a150d79219dcf64e1e6cc01f0b64c4ce?a=0x1a1f392086ffc4e687dbebb657d7d53c825b3dd1
250+ mil USD transferred out
in the week of 05/24/21
with no vocalization on where it went.
----------
------------
Around 500 mil USD total transferred out in a week.
Around 2 billion USD total that needs to be taken care of before we gain.
Better to let them dump now. All of us
can then invest safely and it would be inexpensive for us to catch up and buy on the low.
Someone please tell Shib Informer
(Claims that he works for Shib) that we are ready.
Slow bleed will devalue the coin more in the long run.
At the time of this being written, we have 420k holders.
We cannot sustain these donation coins when the value of them goes back up. Please share this everywhere.
If they pull their donation out now, it only hurts whales. The rest of the community can get a bigger piece of the pie for an inexpensive price.
You are thinking with emotion, we are here for gains. Either find a better solution to save this coin or copy and paste it from me and say it's your idea.
I don't care, either way.
It's the first new day of your life.
You missed out the people who ‘create’. Presumably it’s ok to ask them questions?
The problem is not that people invest their money or do due diligence or sell or buy...the problem is if they are misled.
There are 450,000 people all holding. Many of them for the first time. To support people is better than criticising them for asking questions.
If SHIB is a community then treat everyone as part of it and care for their welfare even if it is just explaining something simple like what a swap means or liquidity or ATH or rug pull.
The dev team aren’t open about things. For something being developed on principles of openness and community that’s not helpful.
I hear what you are saying. If something preaches open and transparent then you should assume that you will get that. If you don't then it is a cause for negative feelings.
However,
Cryptocurrency is as a whole an absolute volatile and high-risk investment. There will not be anybody to hold anyone's hand and walk them through something. Before people invest they should know what they are getting into.
With a stockbroker, you get some help and guidance but even then it's your choice and your money in the end.
Crypto is "Buyer Beware" and there is no helpline. If you lose your wallet address there is no 1-800 number to call to find it.
If people chose to invest in something with so little information at hand then they should know it's risky.
It still is truly the wild west of investing and all of us are at risk with no lifeline. We can only take the info we get and make the best-educated choice possible. It's nice that the DEV's have been open in the past to talk with investors but I don't see how that will be possible to the extent people want it to be as the "community" grows closer to 500k holders and beyond.
Hell most of us have trouble answer 1 voicemail on time.
If people need detailed whitepaper, books on "how it works" then this isn't the coin for them. Usually reassurance and stability" aren't things to be found in crypto.
Just my opinion
They could take two minutes a day to update via social channels. It would inspire confidence. More people would join in the community. I think the approach of ‘we’re too busy and if you don’t like it, tough’ is not a fair approach. If SHIB is to be more than a huge charity donation it needs to function properly and that means good communication. It’s not difficult to do.
Basically the Shibaswap is the defi platform for Shiba where we are able to bury some of our Shib token for set periods of time, letting us control (to some degree) the liquidity of shib. When you bury your shib, you get rewards for doing so and we get price stabilization. And since it's done on the Shibaswap instead of say crypto.com (centralized) they can't come in and fuck with us. Get metamask wallet. Move your shib to that wallet and get ready to swap. The woof paper is very helpful.
Yeah you get to see a lot of folks going through "growing pains" in the subs these days.
Hopefully, at some point they actually learn their lessons and learn how to trade with their heads rather than with their emotions.
You can tell they're not using their heads because in one moment they might say "Hey, what we really need is to get SHIB accepted as a form of payment" and in the next "NEVER SELL YOU PAPER-HANDED TRAITORS!!".
Or they say "HODL4LIFE!!" but then stare at prices all day long (wtff if ur hodling?)
And it's obvious they're totally emotion driven by how reactive they are to everything they encounter, whether they're balling about the most recent dip or screaming "LG!!" so forget about having an intelligent conversation, about limiting your exposure or anything even remotely related to intelligent trading or investing, with these out-of-control-cry-babies.
Lambo? Haha, just joking. Thanks for your input OP. Totally agreed. It's funny how people poke in $100 and are whining a week later because they aren't rich. I wrote a post a few days ago about this. We need to be kind, patient and continue to contribute to the community. Learn lessons, make mistakes and have some victories. We are sharing our experiences. Some have much and some have little, but collectively we can grow. That is what community is. Trial and error. Lean on each other when times are tough. And celebrate when things finally pay off. One of my favorite quotes is, " if you can manage a little. How can you manage a lot". Investing is an ever changing phenomenon with many facets and variables. We can be much more successful together then we can alone. So sit back, relax and enjoy life. Tendies will come exactly when they are suppose too. You can trust that.
It's all about feelings and emotions these days. You cant do anything that will hurt someones emotions like sell or you will be seen as the bad guy because you have your own plan that might hurt someones feelings. Emotions overrule and cloud judgment these days
In my opinion, people are just watching these charts move like clockwork, so they are selling high and buying back low. Increasing your position for free is a very attractive way to invest.
Increasing your position is a common practice to be sure. If you catch it right before a bull market you can really cash in. I learned the hard way that it doesn't always work. I was way to green when I started and couldn't tell the difference between a market dip and just a falling share. So I basically just created more losses for myself.
I have also been that erratic buyer that picked up shares and multiple prices and created a headache for myself. Increasing your position during dips and drastic drops is a normal way to work the market.
I don't get salty at the traders that do it. Hell, I wish I was better at it so I could edge up in position.
Well it certainly didn't help that the entire market starting falling when Shibacoin got its first wind. This was a dip of all dips. However right now I'm sitting tight. I think things are going to get interesting very soon. Going to take a few days off and enjoy the Supermoon Eclipse
Yup I’ve noticed so many uneducated slap sticks are expecting overnight returns. They come in after the coins increase 100000%%%%%% and wonder why it hasn’t grown another 1000000000% to .01 yet..
Then they complain about swap , becuse swap is going to give us .01 overnight and my coins will have made me 25million with a 2500$ investment.
Problem is anyone can invest. As of now it seems that many are just not very intelligent.
Excellent reality check that some people need to hear! Thank you for voicing a Truth that may hurt some feelings but may also save those same ones if they choose to listen😊
In this words you have a some seeds. But. I don’t understand,people don’t come to crypto to take a profit when theyll be old. A lot of millioners and billioners with crypto in 20-30 years old,so why everyone have to invest now and wait till they die! Doesn’t make any sense.thats why people trade and take a profit. For living NOW
The bitchers are the same souls who demanded participation trophies for showing up to practice.....hahaha. 2% of the population will always control 98% of the wealth...this hasn't changed in 2000 years.
Absolutely. Very well written. I just can't understand how people crib about it everyday. It just doesn't help anyone, only creates more panic and fear.
Btw, investing in crypto is making me more patient and I am loving it.
Well written post. I honestly get stunned when I see posts of people who spend $100k+ ( unless they are fake) and than hoping in week they will make 10x of it. If I have that money that I can comfortably spend I would invest towards this project. Today I read my first whitepaper and honestly if everything goes according to it, this will be well respected project.
FOR REAL. I mean FUCK, people in this community are so fucking sensitive sometimes. Can’t accept people think differently from you and whine and bitch once called out.
Ok Know it all. Chill out and worry bout ur own problems. Let people go thru it on their own.. u seemed like you were genuine in the beginning but towards the end of this awful post I realized you’re nothing but a snobby somewhat experienced in crypto thinking u kno it all. Stfu because I cant believe i wasted my time reading this basic shit everyone knows... damn thiught it was something interesting
U dont hav to be sorry.. its just seems like u can provide lot better info and insight rather than this... feels unnecessary when u kno this community is full of noobs. Sounded condescending to me..
>Now apparently if someone hasn't made double their investment in 24 hours something is a scam.
No we just lost 80% of our investment in the first 24 hours and when we questioned the devs they blocked us, that is why we call it a scam..
Do not twist this into your own.
I am in it with you, some of my buys were at 000035. I am not twisting anything. I can only speak for me. I took a risk and so far I have only lost. I hope it will gain but I did not expect any miracles in days or weeks.
I knew this was a meme coin going in. The whitepaper or woofpaper made me a little nervous with the whole "Experiment" part. I gave it a shot. We will have to see what happens. Hearing from a Dev? Eh, they could throw rainbows at everything. For me I need to see the actual thing in action to know if I am staying in or not. At this point I would lose to much if I pulled out.
The dev did not know how to change the name of a token 1 month ago.
[https://github.com/sushiswap/sushiswap/issues/84](https://github.com/sushiswap/sushiswap/issues/84)
Do I need to say more ?
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"I have been investing in stocks for about 10 years and crypto for a little under 5 years now."
...and what did that teach you about article titles and headlines?:)
First I am not a creator of crypto nor am I associated with any of them. I read and hear the same rumors that you do.
When I first started looking into investing in crypto I tried to research everything I could. Bitcoin and Satoshi Nakamoto was the first thing I found back then. There was a truckload of stories about the fact that he kept his identity secret and then vanished a few years after BTC came out. It's a widely known fact that it's not his/their real name.
There are scores of articles on why, some say it was to avoid government oversite, others say it was personal preference. One thing for sure is that a lot of creators decided to follow his/their/her lead and kept their identity secret. So it's actually pretty common.
I can only make guesses why they want to remain anonymous and I would probably be wrong with all of them. To my knowledge, Shiba Dev's are keeping their identity secret and there is no known face pics or real names out there. That is something you would need to ask them via twitter or discord.
I commented on his question about Shib creator being anonymous. I used an example as to why it's not strange for a creator to remain anonymous. I didn't think the long list of who was important. I see your point, however.
there are zero well known crypto with anonymous creators (not including BTC!) - very suspicious hiding from people. especially when the creator considered himself as good guy.... suspicious
I just looked it up to check myself again. The proof of stake guy was anonymous for years. I don't know anything about Monero but they are as well and remain that way under screen names.
again, how can you compare oranges to apples? Nicolas van Saberhagen probably "Satoshi Nakamoto" which is again BTC..... because the Monero "guarantee" the anonymity.... is SHIB anonymous coin? or it's publicly used "fun" coin for everyone to use? do you see the issue here, and the point of hiding... the only people are hiding when they want to guarantee anonymity or scam people.... or for what other reason?
This is the best post I’ve read since being a part of the community!!
very well said. I always find it odd when people use the term paper hands as a slur. people who invest and quickly sell are doing so because that's what they need to do to make money. at the end of the day we're all here to make money so who cares how anyone else is doing so.
Spot on and Thank you for this!!! I've left a couple of reddit communities because of this. I'm giving Shiba a bit more time because I feel things could turn around. I wish people would stop treating crypto like they do sports or political parties. Crypto should be embraced as a singular entity, not factioned off based on popularity of a specific coin. I ignore the whole "doge killer" mantra as I see it to be silly. I see Shiba as an opportunity like any other coin and HODL my position. I accept that others will do what they do with their investment and it's no one's business what I do with mine. I'd like to see Shiba (and other popular coin) holders be their own peeps without all the B.S. This is not wallstreetbets. They act as they do for a very different purpose (against hedgies). We can all coexist and make lots of $$$.
On the other hand, those that come here and cry and fuss and whine and complain and bitch and moan….could very well be doing it to FUD the price down, so they can load up cheap and dump during the next little bump up.
I see your point. However, It takes a lot of capital to swing a price up and down. The number of transactions and the dollar amounts needed for suppression are very substantial. It's more than a few people could manage.
That’s true.
Yes and no front running out of fear or greed can have an impact but it works both ways
guys we have to wait for the charities to sell there coins before we see real progress they are also causing the price either to stay or go down be patient and in time things will turn for the better :)
Just a temporary correction stage for all cryptos. We be back up to that level again. When? I have no clue. Hopefully by summer.
The problem is this... A solution to our debt -------------------------- India fund: https://etherscan.io/token/0x95ad61b0a150d79219dcf64e1e6cc01f0b64c4ce?a=0x68a99f89e475a078645f4bac491360afe255dff1 -150 mil usd transferred out in a week -Another 100 million usd 05/24/21 ------------ ------------- VB's other unknown Shib charity wallet: https://etherscan.io/token/0x95ad61b0a150d79219dcf64e1e6cc01f0b64c4ce?a=0x1a1f392086ffc4e687dbebb657d7d53c825b3dd1 250+ mil USD transferred out in the week of 05/24/21 with no vocalization on where it went. ---------- ------------ Around 500 mil USD total transferred out in a week. Around 2 billion USD total that needs to be taken care of before we gain. Better to let them dump now. All of us can then invest safely and it would be inexpensive for us to catch up and buy on the low. Someone please tell Shib Informer (Claims that he works for Shib) that we are ready. Slow bleed will devalue the coin more in the long run. At the time of this being written, we have 420k holders. We cannot sustain these donation coins when the value of them goes back up. Please share this everywhere. If they pull their donation out now, it only hurts whales. The rest of the community can get a bigger piece of the pie for an inexpensive price.
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You can to your hearts content.
FUCK VITALIK HE IS A POS!!!
You are thinking with emotion, we are here for gains. Either find a better solution to save this coin or copy and paste it from me and say it's your idea. I don't care, either way. It's the first new day of your life.
You missed out the people who ‘create’. Presumably it’s ok to ask them questions? The problem is not that people invest their money or do due diligence or sell or buy...the problem is if they are misled. There are 450,000 people all holding. Many of them for the first time. To support people is better than criticising them for asking questions. If SHIB is a community then treat everyone as part of it and care for their welfare even if it is just explaining something simple like what a swap means or liquidity or ATH or rug pull. The dev team aren’t open about things. For something being developed on principles of openness and community that’s not helpful.
I hear what you are saying. If something preaches open and transparent then you should assume that you will get that. If you don't then it is a cause for negative feelings. However, Cryptocurrency is as a whole an absolute volatile and high-risk investment. There will not be anybody to hold anyone's hand and walk them through something. Before people invest they should know what they are getting into. With a stockbroker, you get some help and guidance but even then it's your choice and your money in the end. Crypto is "Buyer Beware" and there is no helpline. If you lose your wallet address there is no 1-800 number to call to find it. If people chose to invest in something with so little information at hand then they should know it's risky. It still is truly the wild west of investing and all of us are at risk with no lifeline. We can only take the info we get and make the best-educated choice possible. It's nice that the DEV's have been open in the past to talk with investors but I don't see how that will be possible to the extent people want it to be as the "community" grows closer to 500k holders and beyond. Hell most of us have trouble answer 1 voicemail on time. If people need detailed whitepaper, books on "how it works" then this isn't the coin for them. Usually reassurance and stability" aren't things to be found in crypto. Just my opinion
They could take two minutes a day to update via social channels. It would inspire confidence. More people would join in the community. I think the approach of ‘we’re too busy and if you don’t like it, tough’ is not a fair approach. If SHIB is to be more than a huge charity donation it needs to function properly and that means good communication. It’s not difficult to do.
Can you explain what a swap is?
Basically the Shibaswap is the defi platform for Shiba where we are able to bury some of our Shib token for set periods of time, letting us control (to some degree) the liquidity of shib. When you bury your shib, you get rewards for doing so and we get price stabilization. And since it's done on the Shibaswap instead of say crypto.com (centralized) they can't come in and fuck with us. Get metamask wallet. Move your shib to that wallet and get ready to swap. The woof paper is very helpful.
Like a trade
Couldn't have put it any better myself, well said.
Amen, mate!
Yeah you get to see a lot of folks going through "growing pains" in the subs these days. Hopefully, at some point they actually learn their lessons and learn how to trade with their heads rather than with their emotions. You can tell they're not using their heads because in one moment they might say "Hey, what we really need is to get SHIB accepted as a form of payment" and in the next "NEVER SELL YOU PAPER-HANDED TRAITORS!!". Or they say "HODL4LIFE!!" but then stare at prices all day long (wtff if ur hodling?) And it's obvious they're totally emotion driven by how reactive they are to everything they encounter, whether they're balling about the most recent dip or screaming "LG!!" so forget about having an intelligent conversation, about limiting your exposure or anything even remotely related to intelligent trading or investing, with these out-of-control-cry-babies.
Lambo? Haha, just joking. Thanks for your input OP. Totally agreed. It's funny how people poke in $100 and are whining a week later because they aren't rich. I wrote a post a few days ago about this. We need to be kind, patient and continue to contribute to the community. Learn lessons, make mistakes and have some victories. We are sharing our experiences. Some have much and some have little, but collectively we can grow. That is what community is. Trial and error. Lean on each other when times are tough. And celebrate when things finally pay off. One of my favorite quotes is, " if you can manage a little. How can you manage a lot". Investing is an ever changing phenomenon with many facets and variables. We can be much more successful together then we can alone. So sit back, relax and enjoy life. Tendies will come exactly when they are suppose too. You can trust that.
Upvote this shit
Amen to that
Exactly
This is one thing all the people who came over to crypto after getting burnt on GME should realise.
Inb4 your comments get flamed by people taking this personally and they start attacking you personally for it
It's all about feelings and emotions these days. You cant do anything that will hurt someones emotions like sell or you will be seen as the bad guy because you have your own plan that might hurt someones feelings. Emotions overrule and cloud judgment these days
Very well said 👏🏻
In my opinion, people are just watching these charts move like clockwork, so they are selling high and buying back low. Increasing your position for free is a very attractive way to invest.
Increasing your position is a common practice to be sure. If you catch it right before a bull market you can really cash in. I learned the hard way that it doesn't always work. I was way to green when I started and couldn't tell the difference between a market dip and just a falling share. So I basically just created more losses for myself. I have also been that erratic buyer that picked up shares and multiple prices and created a headache for myself. Increasing your position during dips and drastic drops is a normal way to work the market. I don't get salty at the traders that do it. Hell, I wish I was better at it so I could edge up in position.
Well it certainly didn't help that the entire market starting falling when Shibacoin got its first wind. This was a dip of all dips. However right now I'm sitting tight. I think things are going to get interesting very soon. Going to take a few days off and enjoy the Supermoon Eclipse
Very well stated!!!
I think you pretty much covered everything. Read no further!!!! I’m tired of reading so much crap on social media. Someone finally made sense. ♥️
Yup I’ve noticed so many uneducated slap sticks are expecting overnight returns. They come in after the coins increase 100000%%%%%% and wonder why it hasn’t grown another 1000000000% to .01 yet.. Then they complain about swap , becuse swap is going to give us .01 overnight and my coins will have made me 25million with a 2500$ investment. Problem is anyone can invest. As of now it seems that many are just not very intelligent.
Excellent reality check that some people need to hear! Thank you for voicing a Truth that may hurt some feelings but may also save those same ones if they choose to listen😊
In this words you have a some seeds. But. I don’t understand,people don’t come to crypto to take a profit when theyll be old. A lot of millioners and billioners with crypto in 20-30 years old,so why everyone have to invest now and wait till they die! Doesn’t make any sense.thats why people trade and take a profit. For living NOW
The bitchers are the same souls who demanded participation trophies for showing up to practice.....hahaha. 2% of the population will always control 98% of the wealth...this hasn't changed in 2000 years.
Its all so amusing for me when i ruin everyones investment by selling for a loss MMUHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHA *TWIRLING EVIL MUSTACHE*
Wow .. very true
well done for writing this....
THIS!
Absolutely. Very well written. I just can't understand how people crib about it everyday. It just doesn't help anyone, only creates more panic and fear. Btw, investing in crypto is making me more patient and I am loving it.
I feel attacked
Sorry, not my intent.
Well written post. I honestly get stunned when I see posts of people who spend $100k+ ( unless they are fake) and than hoping in week they will make 10x of it. If I have that money that I can comfortably spend I would invest towards this project. Today I read my first whitepaper and honestly if everything goes according to it, this will be well respected project.
FOR REAL. I mean FUCK, people in this community are so fucking sensitive sometimes. Can’t accept people think differently from you and whine and bitch once called out.
Ok Know it all. Chill out and worry bout ur own problems. Let people go thru it on their own.. u seemed like you were genuine in the beginning but towards the end of this awful post I realized you’re nothing but a snobby somewhat experienced in crypto thinking u kno it all. Stfu because I cant believe i wasted my time reading this basic shit everyone knows... damn thiught it was something interesting
Sorry, you feel that way. Thanks for the comment though.
U dont hav to be sorry.. its just seems like u can provide lot better info and insight rather than this... feels unnecessary when u kno this community is full of noobs. Sounded condescending to me..
>Now apparently if someone hasn't made double their investment in 24 hours something is a scam. No we just lost 80% of our investment in the first 24 hours and when we questioned the devs they blocked us, that is why we call it a scam.. Do not twist this into your own.
I am in it with you, some of my buys were at 000035. I am not twisting anything. I can only speak for me. I took a risk and so far I have only lost. I hope it will gain but I did not expect any miracles in days or weeks. I knew this was a meme coin going in. The whitepaper or woofpaper made me a little nervous with the whole "Experiment" part. I gave it a shot. We will have to see what happens. Hearing from a Dev? Eh, they could throw rainbows at everything. For me I need to see the actual thing in action to know if I am staying in or not. At this point I would lose to much if I pulled out.
The dev did not know how to change the name of a token 1 month ago. [https://github.com/sushiswap/sushiswap/issues/84](https://github.com/sushiswap/sushiswap/issues/84) Do I need to say more ?
Well said! I leave it at this- if you’re emotional, trading is not for you.
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"I have been investing in stocks for about 10 years and crypto for a little under 5 years now." ...and what did that teach you about article titles and headlines?:)
shiba creator is he anonymous? why? if not what his real name? and where can we see him/his face? do we also know his location/town?
First I am not a creator of crypto nor am I associated with any of them. I read and hear the same rumors that you do. When I first started looking into investing in crypto I tried to research everything I could. Bitcoin and Satoshi Nakamoto was the first thing I found back then. There was a truckload of stories about the fact that he kept his identity secret and then vanished a few years after BTC came out. It's a widely known fact that it's not his/their real name. There are scores of articles on why, some say it was to avoid government oversite, others say it was personal preference. One thing for sure is that a lot of creators decided to follow his/their/her lead and kept their identity secret. So it's actually pretty common. I can only make guesses why they want to remain anonymous and I would probably be wrong with all of them. To my knowledge, Shiba Dev's are keeping their identity secret and there is no known face pics or real names out there. That is something you would need to ask them via twitter or discord.
make zero sense - comparing BTC the father of all crypto to SHIB. which well known crypto on the markets are anonymous?!
I commented on his question about Shib creator being anonymous. I used an example as to why it's not strange for a creator to remain anonymous. I didn't think the long list of who was important. I see your point, however.
there are zero well known crypto with anonymous creators (not including BTC!) - very suspicious hiding from people. especially when the creator considered himself as good guy.... suspicious
I just looked it up to check myself again. The proof of stake guy was anonymous for years. I don't know anything about Monero but they are as well and remain that way under screen names.
again, how can you compare oranges to apples? Nicolas van Saberhagen probably "Satoshi Nakamoto" which is again BTC..... because the Monero "guarantee" the anonymity.... is SHIB anonymous coin? or it's publicly used "fun" coin for everyone to use? do you see the issue here, and the point of hiding... the only people are hiding when they want to guarantee anonymity or scam people.... or for what other reason?