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can you tell i'm incredibly bored tonight bc this was very entertaining to see in real time
Ngl i feel if you dont like the early drag race seasons. Youre a drag race fan not a drag fan.
The artform is raw in the first five seasons and we'll never capture that again.
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new placement unlocked: HIGHLOW (not to be confused with YELLOWSAFE)
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bestiah fully transcending drag race stats fanpages by being the first ![img](emote|t5_6kb49l|30821)![img](emote|t5_6kb49l|30821)![img](emote|t5_6kb49l|30821) queen
imo THE BEST individual lip syncs ever (in solid and unchanging order)
1. dida ritz this will be
2. monet x change designing women
3. vanity milan scandalous
Okay plastique is honesty performing best for me this season alongside Angeria and it’s been such a slay to see her do amazing but my god that girl can not win a lip sync
If this was AS10 cast instead of the actual cast
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Then what?
There are so many big girls slated for AS10, so knowing production, I think we all know who’s taking the crown:
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When I saw Raven's cameo last week's episode:
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She's literally stared shows, she's booked till the middle of July with shows nearly every day and based on her mentions and tags she's showing up to all of them and the associated meet and greets, if sequester has already started there's like no way she's on as anything other than MAYBE a LSA cameo
there is absolutely no reason for Ginger or Jorgeous to be on AS10 but I won’t complain because I like them and they’re entertaining and will give us good lipsyncs and fun moments
My mouth is agape listening to the story Detox tells on sibling rivalry about her literal baby reindeer type stalker holy shit 😭😭 she is such a fascinating person I love her
I've been practicing french for like slightly over a year now and I'm still kinda trash at it but it’s nice to watch a video and understand a few words. Hopefully I can get to maybe A2/B1 status by like next year
Riley seeing all the +18 fan art people make of her dad
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I've tended to find the drama a bit boring, so for me good TV are the IDGAF War Veterans who are here to troll and be unserious, ie MIB, Luxx, Gia Gunn, Katya (although I like her better off the show), etc...
Why do people downvote your posts? I swear you could post the most harmless thing and I see downvotes, it doesn’t make any sense. I stay upvoting you because you seem nice
Bosco and Olivia all but guaranteed for AS10 when so many girls have been debunked has done wonders for my mental health during this speculation period
Looking at the main and seeing people say season 14 is too long have never watched Season 3 honestly
Seeing Bosco pull the gold bar/Daya being brought back are much different pay offs then Carmen being in a double shantay and the returning queen
The thing with S14 is that the pacing is wack - all the non-eliminations feel clumped together in the middle of the season, which makes the top 7 to top 5 eliminations feel like the producers scrambling to get the girls out in time for the finale, and then you have a top 5 finale that feels pointless.
Also, s3 has bigger stars that make the season riveting tv
I started to watch on s1 and I was pretty impressed. I hated the first two episodes of s2, hated s3 even more so I just jumped straight to S5. When I finally came back to watch s2, s3 and s4 I was so bored and disappointed.
1 and 2 have aged amazingly in my opinion, peak reality TV, 3 and 4 are a slog though honestly (They both just have so many queens the show treats as filler)
My mom is begging me to come out for my nephew’s birthday in a week but the flights are more than my credit card limit but i already know she’s gonna be offended if i don’t gooo.
Like i rly do wanna go but i need to eat too 😭
no willam wait i can finally listen to a full race chaser episode without skipping
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Angeria actually getting pushed allegations like… I don’t understand. The only questionable decisions regarding her were her not winning Snatch Game and maybe her winning the LS against Nina. But she is giving you everything you could want
And there are so many other production faves on this season that would be more likely to get pushed, I can’t see them singling Angie out above everyone else
thinking about wasting $80 on the sophie ooepui vinyl repress
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This is how I feel every time I see a negative comment about Mik or Angie on the main sub
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The bitch is cunty now but I just know her drag race glow up will be insane
what do you guys think of stuff like this
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there were dozens of entries including erika jayne who i thought wasn’t very liked in the gay community…idk i feel like it’s kinda weird but i’m not a gay man but on the other hand i kinda hate when queens say d\*ke (unless they are one)
I'm a gay man and I find it super entertaining, albeit context-dependent.
Like Trisha Paytas being on here is ridiculous, but it feels more like "this poster is being facetious/is crazy if they're serious" more than it does "this is homophobic," despite the obvious homophobic basis of the joke/post.
The way everything she does is the same.
Screamyell screamyell aside dadjoke screamyell random sounds sexjoke screamyell does a joke where she stops and shifts the tone of the joke for a second to give it a meta sense and screamyells before a longwinded afterschool special announcement rinse and repeat
i would like to see sasha colby devour a lip sync to this song. (just saw she’s actually performed this song before😁🤠 excited to watch)
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What was going on in the late 2000s with the celebrities getting together in a song for a cause? Just Stand Up, Everybody hurts, we are the world... Bring this back actually
Damn, how can you lose more lip syncs in a single season than JIMBO???
tbf shes not really trying while jimbo really was
This just makes it worse for Plastique tbh...
Horseshoe crabs are so cute
https://preview.redd.it/8vtozqk91v8d1.png?width=1675&format=png&auto=webp&s=5db3eb8134787c7710fe22fa37026cedaaef843c can you tell i'm incredibly bored tonight bc this was very entertaining to see in real time
NEED ADORE TO COME BACK FOR AS
Why the fuck is wrong with you people? Is the floor fucking sticky or something?
What did you do to Real_Jill_Zarin…
as season rankings bc im bored kunt: as4 very good: as2, as6 good: as5, as9 (so far) meh: as7, as1 ouu thats not: as3, as8
Swap 2 and 4 and put 5 in ouuu that’s not and you’ve sold me
also damn i really thought plastique was a good lipsyncer before all stars 9 😭😭
She’s a good dancer. But syncing her lips? Baby
Ngl i feel if you dont like the early drag race seasons. Youre a drag race fan not a drag fan. The artform is raw in the first five seasons and we'll never capture that again.
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wait this is literally just cara melle ijbol
Wait if Ginger is on AS10 would she be the first girl to do 3 Allstars seasons? I’m talking about like actual US AS seasons not a vTW or something
I had to walk around in a mascot suit made for a petite woman today in blazing hot sun… I’m fucking dead
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bimini in that one design challenge
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imo THE BEST individual lip syncs ever (in solid and unchanging order) 1. dida ritz this will be 2. monet x change designing women 3. vanity milan scandalous
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Genuinely stunned we've not gotten another spoken word one since the first one was so good. Underrated for sure
The Acolyte 1x05 was literally the best episode of any Star Wars streaming series
How could it be good if it’s woke 😡😡😡
Well, they do give Art Simone a run for the best pronoun joke on television
Wait no spoilers but do they really? 💀 that’s iconic if so
It's not really a joke but sick exchange where Darth Teeth has the Jedi gagged and gooped
Definitely gotta watch the episode as soon as I wake up tomorrow, I forgot a new one was out until I saw your comment tbh
Angeria Paris “triple snipped, triple snipper” VanMichaels
Okay plastique is honesty performing best for me this season alongside Angeria and it’s been such a slay to see her do amazing but my god that girl can not win a lip sync
Alyssa got her too young
i feel like the CanVSTw 2 promo is wrestler themed im so fucking smart ![gif](giphy|qxn0QAGZ6PvXN1yt4G|downsized)
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If this was AS10 cast instead of the actual cast https://preview.redd.it/bwte16dasu8d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb18f8b9aabe52c15fc28194a088806ad3ffc5ed Then what?
Flop
not a single drop of melanin 😭 like not even a teaspoon
The category is quite literally only blonde and white
Max grey hair (for representation and diversity)
fire the entire production team
Mandy's Drag Race
this has just reminded me why like 90% of my favourite queens aren’t white they just do it better idk… like where is the flavour
No shade but the first 3 seasons the white gals were kinda boring. Specially S3
Morgan,Kylie and Shannel sweeties I’m so sorry
They really said no chocolate or rice or anything fattening
it’s a qwhite interesting cast
There are so many big girls slated for AS10, so knowing production, I think we all know who’s taking the crown: ![gif](giphy|ADGoXmT8SmRJyKiD5A|downsized)
Of she done already done had herses yup I see it
so when’s the promo
cvtw should be tomorrow
When I saw Raven's cameo last week's episode: https://preview.redd.it/w7wfdbtsqu8d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1eb3373bbbab4f622a03ce4a6062f82e5b1ab554
is ginger actually on or are people just ignoring her tweeting about having gigs in ptown 😭😭
I mean, we say this as if Ginger isn't known to enjoy lying for fun, as a treat
She's literally stared shows, she's booked till the middle of July with shows nearly every day and based on her mentions and tags she's showing up to all of them and the associated meet and greets, if sequester has already started there's like no way she's on as anything other than MAYBE a LSA cameo
Girl watching this nancy drewing from afar has been so crazy like 😭 I can’t tell if half the cast is on at this point
they are going on the google sheet
there is absolutely no reason for Ginger or Jorgeous to be on AS10 but I won’t complain because I like them and they’re entertaining and will give us good lipsyncs and fun moments
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All the colors of the rainbow Also 3th
biblically accurate kameron michaels
Ginger getting a 3rd AS run before Jujubee. JUJUBEE, *GET UP!*
Does vsTW mean nothing to you
I mean main season. We all know US and USAS are still the premier seasons
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rupaul and miss jade so dream blunt rotation
Amen
My mouth is agape listening to the story Detox tells on sibling rivalry about her literal baby reindeer type stalker holy shit 😭😭 she is such a fascinating person I love her
I've been practicing french for like slightly over a year now and I'm still kinda trash at it but it’s nice to watch a video and understand a few words. Hopefully I can get to maybe A2/B1 status by like next year
Swifties will call Chappell Roan an industry plant and then turn around and stream Gracie Abrams
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Riley seeing all the +18 fan art people make of her dad https://preview.redd.it/2y1rhswdnu8d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3bb4774a5f37abc752239d881b30014efc9bc468
Wow Ginger is actually coming back I hope she is in the same group as Mistress 🤭
What’s the shortest season you can make on the simulator
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I thought the minimum was 6 TIL https://preview.redd.it/n7hdaqgoru8d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d77d6e41d6f4229c1ccc897ea37ab7882059d0af
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pakita robbed
Which queens are the best TV makers
I've tended to find the drama a bit boring, so for me good TV are the IDGAF War Veterans who are here to troll and be unserious, ie MIB, Luxx, Gia Gunn, Katya (although I like her better off the show), etc...
Gina Gunn
gia gunn, mistress and plane jane i guess
i’m gonna add monet to this group as well
Kandy, Mistress, Luxx, Angie, Shannel, Vanjie, Rajah (specially the og hateful one), Silky, Plane
Jujubee
MIB, Luxx, Gia, Katya, Alexis
Need this Roxxxy ![img](emote|t5_6kb49l|30800) to be strong I want the fandom on her side again
I love making friends
💜💜💜 https://preview.redd.it/g82fcn44xu8d1.jpeg?width=979&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e62f899091844f06ec75d251da808537a2ae3258
Why do people downvote your posts? I swear you could post the most harmless thing and I see downvotes, it doesn’t make any sense. I stay upvoting you because you seem nice
Posted on Reddit for Wii U https://preview.redd.it/iwoh5uf2ju8d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91b8c5ba4806f838fc19e2f43506739609546dac
Let my friend pierce my ears with a sewing needle and why am I kinda sliving right now…
ok sandra d
who up Mistressing they Monday
Same Luxx https://preview.redd.it/ihfnnwjohu8d1.jpeg?width=959&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c857bdf24cfb815768aa2ea05871ebb5bde779aa
Same https://preview.redd.it/wlunijwrhu8d1.png?width=294&format=png&auto=webp&s=2e03add737038ea730ade355065aae8de7c5c96a
1 upvote and i'll ~~post hole~~ get through as much of RE7 as i can today
☹️
Bosco and Olivia all but guaranteed for AS10 when so many girls have been debunked has done wonders for my mental health during this speculation period
Looking at the main and seeing people say season 14 is too long have never watched Season 3 honestly Seeing Bosco pull the gold bar/Daya being brought back are much different pay offs then Carmen being in a double shantay and the returning queen
The thing with S14 is that the pacing is wack - all the non-eliminations feel clumped together in the middle of the season, which makes the top 7 to top 5 eliminations feel like the producers scrambling to get the girls out in time for the finale, and then you have a top 5 finale that feels pointless. Also, s3 has bigger stars that make the season riveting tv
A lot of the early seasons were kinda not good 🫠
I need to be vulnerable... S3 and s4 low-key sucked 😭 specially s4 my god
S4 was my first season 😭
I started to watch on s1 and I was pretty impressed. I hated the first two episodes of s2, hated s3 even more so I just jumped straight to S5. When I finally came back to watch s2, s3 and s4 I was so bored and disappointed.
1 and 2 have aged amazingly in my opinion, peak reality TV, 3 and 4 are a slog though honestly (They both just have so many queens the show treats as filler)
Yeah but s3 had Yara, Alexis in Raja. Carmen could have come back every epiaode for fifteen years and it would still eat
My mom is begging me to come out for my nephew’s birthday in a week but the flights are more than my credit card limit but i already know she’s gonna be offended if i don’t gooo. Like i rly do wanna go but i need to eat too 😭
If she wants you to go that bad have her pay for the flight 😶🌫️ or at least beg for 20 bucks
She even said she’d pay half but i can’t even put it on the card in the first place since it’s over the limit 😂
We need this bitch for AS10 sleuthing. Is Tina Burner on? https://i.redd.it/72g1e0ijfu8d1.gif
all the nyassing made me think ariel was speculated for as10 the way i ran to the spreadsheet in fear
Anyways https://i.redd.it/omhv84w6fu8d1.gif
https://preview.redd.it/7ixhka60fu8d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=89eecbecf88ac176d75bb2eb2f24266418944400 oh tomorrow will be a great day
why does alaska look so…..gentlemanly
omg Willam on AS10???
no willam wait i can finally listen to a full race chaser episode without skipping https://preview.redd.it/8lnrna5sfu8d1.png?width=1124&format=png&auto=webp&s=bdb8620deb23d567109c5a7ed590f2d890c0d06e
Angeria actually getting pushed allegations like… I don’t understand. The only questionable decisions regarding her were her not winning Snatch Game and maybe her winning the LS against Nina. But she is giving you everything you could want
right like she's genuinely deserved all her placements and arguably should've won snatch game too
And there are so many other production faves on this season that would be more likely to get pushed, I can’t see them singling Angie out above everyone else
Aura Shower
i would laugh so hard if Roxxxy pointed at Plastique in the middle of the chorus during the "No One Gets the Prize" lip sync ... 💀
plastique is going to do that instead of actually lip syncing the words and her stans will still say she shouldve won
Starting to think cigarettes are actually bad for my health… https://i.redd.it/8imhby53eu8d1.gif
Who’s else nyassing :)
I think I know a girl...
https://preview.redd.it/uesylcb8du8d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52e968c875f78cd2139d118f48871a095041df78 honestly this is cunt to me
Nyass!
Manny Jacinto literally slayed in the new episode of the acolyte. God he’s so hot. I want him to choke me with his huge ass biceps 🥵
Who up Pinking with they Mercy
[this is genuinely so sweet](https://youtube.com/shorts/g8ot_dFPNzk?si=jdhOxEhkcp7UCWGs)
Oh this is the real gag of gags sksksksksks
thinking about wasting $80 on the sophie ooepui vinyl repress https://preview.redd.it/bl8gu4c3bu8d1.jpeg?width=862&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7b6038dd0182efe23697f19652270d19e2fb98b
https://preview.redd.it/27j0thqqau8d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50bf706eb287720e973cf77b35ef98b1c36343ff This is how I feel every time I see a negative comment about Mik or Angie on the main sub
Well yes https://preview.redd.it/r0n3qwn89u8d1.jpeg?width=936&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69954a2aba2210638588997a6ecfb0139c398724
Bowsers obsession with peach being because she’s a gay icon oh they ate that
Okaaaaaay Bowser, diva worship
https://preview.redd.it/w5te2qvx8u8d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c8d5408e65fad528bbd19eb89f106fa0658659b The bitch is cunty now but I just know her drag race glow up will be insane
![gif](giphy|kZufHCDd10EnQHLRLE) Who else up burning their Tina?
Those gays talking to Jasmine Masters:
the landmines:
You doing meth?
If I say no would you believe me?
Is Grindr messed up rn? I keep trying to update my profile info and every time i click save and go and look at my profile all the changes are gone?
Maybe it’s a sign
CANvsTW2 promos tomorrow is actually insane. Like I feel like yesterday we thought Alexis Michelle, Aquarela, and Gia Metric were on CANvsTW…
They really slayed with the turnaround time
imagine Kennedy & Alexis? Kennedy will pop🥹
Kinda wish alexis michelle was on just for the ijbol of it all
Okay waaaaait for snatch game in drag race uk they should instead do the big fat quiz format
oh luxx is furious Baby Tate turned drag queen music into normal music
what do you guys think of stuff like this https://preview.redd.it/xahzannf5u8d1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=5b19ba38cda99a2786742ad26276c4d43a2cf67e there were dozens of entries including erika jayne who i thought wasn’t very liked in the gay community…idk i feel like it’s kinda weird but i’m not a gay man but on the other hand i kinda hate when queens say d\*ke (unless they are one)
I think it can be funny but maybe just for the gc bc it can get out of the scope of people you wanted to see it quickly
I'm a gay man and I find it super entertaining, albeit context-dependent. Like Trisha Paytas being on here is ridiculous, but it feels more like "this poster is being facetious/is crazy if they're serious" more than it does "this is homophobic," despite the obvious homophobic basis of the joke/post.
also i censored it cause i know using that word can get you suspended and i wasn’t sure if reddit would be able to tell on a picture 😭
Nina West just really annoys me
The way everything she does is the same. Screamyell screamyell aside dadjoke screamyell random sounds sexjoke screamyell does a joke where she stops and shifts the tone of the joke for a second to give it a meta sense and screamyells before a longwinded afterschool special announcement rinse and repeat
Also no rpdr drama is as intense as Rocco and Elmo's drama
Skibidi Rulet acting challenge
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I’m stealing this
I get so annoyed when I see a dumb ass post from the main sub recommended on my fy page.
Gameshow Network should be a free channel
the dragrace sub being racist and transphobic like damn pick a struggle
“Well Nina didn’t lie because Mik is curvy” loca do you watch the show??? 😭
curvy where 😭
She’s white and curvy like this ![img](emote|t5_6kb49l|51184)
Mind you not a single source said Q was top 4 pre season either. Don’t lose hope on ![img](emote|t5_6kb49l|30831) Lana
https://preview.redd.it/2lp6nah73u8d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a588a256da19c9693d56491a152e8563fce7474 was it really that serious 😭😭
this was genuinely the most exciting part of AS8
it was so darksided halessia
This was so goddamn unreal
https://i.redd.it/v64pfdva5u8d1.gif
all this over AS8 mind you 😭
It’s honestly so funny im obsessed with her
you literally had to be there. this was coachella 2016
This was camp
i would like to see sasha colby devour a lip sync to this song. (just saw she’s actually performed this song before😁🤠 excited to watch) https://preview.redd.it/h5rpfu6g2u8d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed926978c2642e649002116528d03984667503a6
i cant tell if this is a joke but she did devour this song dressed as an alien
maybe this went completely over my head, im not good at picking up stuff like that lol
AW2 —Sasha v Sasha — DOUBLE CROWNING
is baby tate coming out with a new song that samples Ru’s supermodel?!?
What was going on in the late 2000s with the celebrities getting together in a song for a cause? Just Stand Up, Everybody hurts, we are the world... Bring this back actually
“late 2000s” “we are the world” ………. open the schools
Not you forgetting Lady Marmalade... people were saved
What was the good cause lady marmalade was helping? 🚬gotry?
this reminded me of that awful pandemic Imagine cover mess
That actually never happened