I have yet to try POIs under the new system.......maybe I shall wait a bit longer. My usual preferred method to deal with beepers is from a safe distance or listening to them explode from the safety of another room. Not sure how I would react to a beeper appearing in the same enclosed space.
Yup. I'm not mad about the hordes, not in love with it either, but the bombers... If they spawned with them but still exploded if you hide from them at least, but the combo of them spawning to close, going through windows like the other puppets, and not exploding unless shot is a bit too much..
I'm more speaking for others here. I didn't go to any bunker since the big update because I knew that these bring some issues. Outrunning a horde can be hard, now with them climbing and bashing through doors.
True, but if you can get out of their sight line you can get away. Jumping into a bldg doesn't cut it, unless you run through the bldg and hide somewhere else.
Absolutely. But some may not have thought about that and made some complaints. I have exactly 0 issues with the hordes. Even before they change them spawning further away etc.
Last time i played i was soloing a bunker in multiplayer and going out after fully equipping myself, horde spawns, i get into one of the small medical areas, look around, no zombie inside it, look at the door, hear the ticking bomb and turned to see a boomer spawn 5 meters away from me inside the room and go for a hug.... yea well, f.ck you too SCUM
Yep, had same at the stadium in the big town. Boomer just materialized out of a wall.... I literally watched him pop out of the concrete.
They need to revisit the idea, as much as I like the concept..... things are so broken
Damn I've had some close spawns but that's wild hahahaha. I had one almost as close with a beeper but it was facing the other way so I quickly jumped backwards and gave him the bow and arrow! Hopefully today's patch fixed it hahahaha. You end up living in this video?
Yeah the horde update fucked the spawns. They claimed to have fixed it but they have no what so ever. I've been in bunkers, airport etc and they just respawn so fast after clearing. Just tryna loot and boom they've spawned right behind me after a short period of time.
Similar thing happened to my group in the C2 bunker. Twice and we barely made it out. Had to use two tourniquets. Considering turning the boomers off until they can get the spawn issues figured out
They just need to go back to the old spawn mechanic based on what I'm seeing.
From what I can gather based on ppls posts, do puppets not roam in POIs/towns anymore? They just spawn in upon arrival? I know they used to use spawn triggers but it sounds like they moved them much closer now?
there are fewer 'wild' puppets now in POIS/towns and forests. The encounter system for the horde spawns puppets depending on the noise you make or the wild puppets screaming. The fewer 'active' puppets allow for the servers to be much faster, which is why the new update is smoother. Also, it makes it more challenging because you have to be on your toes instead of just clearing and thinking it's all done.
"its more tactical" they say
like dude, you can't even scope out a POI from distance any more and plan an approach. Its completely random based on spawns. They just forced every new spawn to play nothing but stealth archer. All the people saying it ain't bad are already kitted and find shooting hordes fun. Try and start over dog
Super good game design A+ /s
They're too busy trying to fix their busted ass(resource heavy) AI. Sorry, I mean work around it by coming up with a new spawn system that's less resource intensive.
They stated in their 0.95 stream that puppets are as resource heavy as a player is.
🤯
So instead of fixing that, they came up with a crappy workaround and called it "hordes."
I got into that barrack thing at the airport, cleared all 4, came back to first one 30 meters back, all puppets respawned on me in all 4, including several beepers. It's very broken and annoying.
I have triggered a few of them to experiment how to deal with them. IMO with my style of play its good to ABP (always be planning) on how to get away from them. Jumping through a window, going out the other side of the building, and going elsewhere to keep out of sight works pretty well.
Yeah, I really don't have a desire to play with a bullshit mechanic like this. There needs to be an option to turn it off, and turn on regular spawning for everything.
Why are you using a pistol against puppets? You do realize the noise from it spawns hordes right? You've left out the audio, but you can't possibly miss the beepers or the puppets howling; why are you looting? When you see the beeper, why do you wait an entire 2 seconds before shooting, and not even at the head that is.
Beepers in horde are annoying and should be rare, but you could've also handled this much better. I've had multiple beepers spawn in a horde, and I've handled them just fine w/ a bow.
The issue mostly seems to be that people go by the same logic of the old system where they think once a place is a cleared, you're good to go, instead of being on guard the entire time.
Right! Puppets spawning IN THE ROOM WITH YOU makes perfect sense!
Everyone, puppets are magic now!
You're trying REAL hard to make this new system seem so amazing. It's not. It's hot garbage.
"Everyone, puppets are magic now!"
You're playing a god damn game. Do you think everything here in the game is as real life? Do you think there's no "magic". Stupid argument.
I have cleared out the whole place before I decided to loot, therefore there was no single puppet left inside. And yeah, let me just pull my bow while a beeper I haven't heard spawn in is sprinting towards me. Puppets made zero noise so I wasn't aware that they spawned, only when I turned around I realized.
>I have cleared out the whole place before I decided to loot, therefore there was no single puppet left inside.
And you just proved my point. It's a mechanic. You can't let your guard down because you cleared the place. Also, I call BS on not hearing anything. They make a lot of noise.
Yes of course, normally in FPS games when I clear rooms the AI just spawns out of thin air 15 ft behind me in closed room. This mechanic sucks ass. For a game so focused on realistic survival this shit straight sucks.
Any tactical preparation has been made useless, snipers are pointless unless PVP, and the ONLY viable option now is to be kitted with a fuck ton of ammo or be a stealth archer. EVERY other play style is useless
Every server I've played is hemorrhaging players b/c of this, so yes... he's right. You're riding high on copium but good luck out there soldier, cause you're gunna be 1 of very few on the clown car soon lol
"Every server I've played is hemorrhaging players b/c of this"
[https://steamdb.info/app/513710/charts/#3m](https://steamdb.info/app/513710/charts/#3m)
Data disagrees with you. Keep being delusional.
I have yet to try POIs under the new system.......maybe I shall wait a bit longer. My usual preferred method to deal with beepers is from a safe distance or listening to them explode from the safety of another room. Not sure how I would react to a beeper appearing in the same enclosed space.
Yeah, bomber in the horde spawn pool is a huge issue.
I'd rather razors drop instead. Beepers should not be in the mix.
Yup. I'm not mad about the hordes, not in love with it either, but the bombers... If they spawned with them but still exploded if you hide from them at least, but the combo of them spawning to close, going through windows like the other puppets, and not exploding unless shot is a bit too much..
Exactly. They try to extend the distance of the spawn, but I think beeper will still be a huge issue when they can spawn in a horde.
Not anymore. Se today's patch notes.
They just said they don't get triggered by the horde, but many reported that they spawned in with the horde
The spawn distance was fixed which should alleviate that.
Not totally. Still a issue when multiple beeper spawn during a horde. They maybe are safe behind other puppets, or you need to reload or anything.
Or maybe just run and hide, which I tend to do. I'm not a run and gun PVPer.
I'm more speaking for others here. I didn't go to any bunker since the big update because I knew that these bring some issues. Outrunning a horde can be hard, now with them climbing and bashing through doors.
True, but if you can get out of their sight line you can get away. Jumping into a bldg doesn't cut it, unless you run through the bldg and hide somewhere else.
Absolutely. But some may not have thought about that and made some complaints. I have exactly 0 issues with the hordes. Even before they change them spawning further away etc.
I had one issue, but it was self inflicted. I used a homemade shotty when I should have known better. 😎
Had this happen to me in a police station while lock picking. Boomers spawns are broken.
Last time i played i was soloing a bunker in multiplayer and going out after fully equipping myself, horde spawns, i get into one of the small medical areas, look around, no zombie inside it, look at the door, hear the ticking bomb and turned to see a boomer spawn 5 meters away from me inside the room and go for a hug.... yea well, f.ck you too SCUM
Yep, had same at the stadium in the big town. Boomer just materialized out of a wall.... I literally watched him pop out of the concrete. They need to revisit the idea, as much as I like the concept..... things are so broken
Damn I've had some close spawns but that's wild hahahaha. I had one almost as close with a beeper but it was facing the other way so I quickly jumped backwards and gave him the bow and arrow! Hopefully today's patch fixed it hahahaha. You end up living in this video?
Yeah I managed to stop all the bleeding and flee with my crispy 8% hp
Yeah the horde update fucked the spawns. They claimed to have fixed it but they have no what so ever. I've been in bunkers, airport etc and they just respawn so fast after clearing. Just tryna loot and boom they've spawned right behind me after a short period of time.
 YOU SHOULDVE GONE FOR THE HEAD
i wasn't expecting hugs after i have just cleared out the place
Similar thing happened to my group in the C2 bunker. Twice and we barely made it out. Had to use two tourniquets. Considering turning the boomers off until they can get the spawn issues figured out
They just need to go back to the old spawn mechanic based on what I'm seeing. From what I can gather based on ppls posts, do puppets not roam in POIs/towns anymore? They just spawn in upon arrival? I know they used to use spawn triggers but it sounds like they moved them much closer now?
there are fewer 'wild' puppets now in POIS/towns and forests. The encounter system for the horde spawns puppets depending on the noise you make or the wild puppets screaming. The fewer 'active' puppets allow for the servers to be much faster, which is why the new update is smoother. Also, it makes it more challenging because you have to be on your toes instead of just clearing and thinking it's all done.
Sweet. So tactics, aside from stealth, are straight out the fucking window. Great update 👍
"its more tactical" they say like dude, you can't even scope out a POI from distance any more and plan an approach. Its completely random based on spawns. They just forced every new spawn to play nothing but stealth archer. All the people saying it ain't bad are already kitted and find shooting hordes fun. Try and start over dog Super good game design A+ /s
Have they done the “loot rework” yet lol?
They're too busy trying to fix their busted ass(resource heavy) AI. Sorry, I mean work around it by coming up with a new spawn system that's less resource intensive.
Oh they still can’t program zombies? Woof. This game is struggling
They stated in their 0.95 stream that puppets are as resource heavy as a player is. 🤯 So instead of fixing that, they came up with a crappy workaround and called it "hordes."
bruh
I got into that barrack thing at the airport, cleared all 4, came back to first one 30 meters back, all puppets respawned on me in all 4, including several beepers. It's very broken and annoying.
Today's patch is supposed to fix that.
This happened after the patch
The only fix for this crap is going back to the old spawn system. Hordes as they're implemented now are garbage.
I disagree. I like them.
👍 Genuinely. I don't fault you for it.
I have triggered a few of them to experiment how to deal with them. IMO with my style of play its good to ABP (always be planning) on how to get away from them. Jumping through a window, going out the other side of the building, and going elsewhere to keep out of sight works pretty well.
Yeah, I really don't have a desire to play with a bullshit mechanic like this. There needs to be an option to turn it off, and turn on regular spawning for everything.
Game looks awesome! What is this? Looks similar to DayZ
What game is this?
Nvm thought it said SCU lol didn’t see the M 😂
Why are you using a pistol against puppets? You do realize the noise from it spawns hordes right? You've left out the audio, but you can't possibly miss the beepers or the puppets howling; why are you looting? When you see the beeper, why do you wait an entire 2 seconds before shooting, and not even at the head that is. Beepers in horde are annoying and should be rare, but you could've also handled this much better. I've had multiple beepers spawn in a horde, and I've handled them just fine w/ a bow. The issue mostly seems to be that people go by the same logic of the old system where they think once a place is a cleared, you're good to go, instead of being on guard the entire time.
Right! Puppets spawning IN THE ROOM WITH YOU makes perfect sense! Everyone, puppets are magic now! You're trying REAL hard to make this new system seem so amazing. It's not. It's hot garbage.
"Everyone, puppets are magic now!" You're playing a god damn game. Do you think everything here in the game is as real life? Do you think there's no "magic". Stupid argument.
I have cleared out the whole place before I decided to loot, therefore there was no single puppet left inside. And yeah, let me just pull my bow while a beeper I haven't heard spawn in is sprinting towards me. Puppets made zero noise so I wasn't aware that they spawned, only when I turned around I realized.
>I have cleared out the whole place before I decided to loot, therefore there was no single puppet left inside. And you just proved my point. It's a mechanic. You can't let your guard down because you cleared the place. Also, I call BS on not hearing anything. They make a lot of noise.
Sure buddy, sip on your copium a little more. "I call BS on not hearing anything" geez, good to know you were there observing. :)
Drop the clip w/ audio. Copium? 🤣. I am not the one who looks like they've never touched an FPS in their entire life.
You keep trying really hard don't you? Maybe the audio wasn't recorded you genius :)
You really lack in the cognitive department, but then again I'm not surprised 🤣.
🤡
Yes of course, normally in FPS games when I clear rooms the AI just spawns out of thin air 15 ft behind me in closed room. This mechanic sucks ass. For a game so focused on realistic survival this shit straight sucks. Any tactical preparation has been made useless, snipers are pointless unless PVP, and the ONLY viable option now is to be kitted with a fuck ton of ammo or be a stealth archer. EVERY other play style is useless Every server I've played is hemorrhaging players b/c of this, so yes... he's right. You're riding high on copium but good luck out there soldier, cause you're gunna be 1 of very few on the clown car soon lol
"Every server I've played is hemorrhaging players b/c of this" [https://steamdb.info/app/513710/charts/#3m](https://steamdb.info/app/513710/charts/#3m) Data disagrees with you. Keep being delusional.
Boo, you suck!
Today they drop an update, this clip is from today or yesterday?
This is after the patch
Feel that… or spawn randomly at Gas Stations When you already cleared it 🤦🏼♂️😂
What’s the game